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  #21  
Old October 11th 06, 07:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
rpmsfpr
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 19
Default can not boot.

To you too my apologies Ed. You are right. I will stick to answering, but
the zig zag format of how this goes sometimes confuse me as if I answered or
not but I think I'm getting it.

"Ed Meza" wrote:

Hi Ricardo,
Thank you for your response and we welcome you to the Win ME newsgroup. As
Mart and Heirloom had asked you, please respond to them in a concise and
clear manner, i.e., keep your issues straight to the point. In other words,
"one issue at-a-time." Keep in mind that when you have different issues,
these should be addressed one-at-time. Yes, by that I mean, separate
threads. People in this newsgroup are always willing to help anybody, as
long as the issue(s) are succinct. Should you need assistance in another
issue(s), pleasse do so on a separate post/thread.
Best regards.
Ed


"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and Heirloom's
messages.. I hope I;m doing this right... I came back to see if anything

goes
and noticed this message did not have my reply.. I m sure I answered it...
but looks like I missed last paragraph you suggest buy new a: drive.. I
thought about replacing but ok.. I get new one make the switch,,, now

what?
Screen still going to show Invalid system disk so how do I know it
installed?.. dont I have to go thr the plug and play thing?? I do need
windows for that, don't I?? Any way you've made point clear it is nessa,

to
have one, no other way....I will try that and see if I get lucky... can I

use
an a: drive from another old computer I have? Im going to keep checking

all
this entries and see if I find my reply to this.. I know I answered.. you
know.. in a "verbose" manner.. I laugh so good when I saw that ... gracias

"Mart" wrote:

Ricardo, not exactly clear as to what you have and have not got, but to
summarise *my* take of your report :-

1) you can't boot your C: drive into WinMe
2) your A: drive isn't functioning.
3) your essential 'boot files' are either missing from your C: drive

and/or
your floppy start-up disk.

(Not quite sure how you know for certain that the 'boot files' are

missing
from your C: drive if you can't 'see it', apparently)

Can you verify the above and then we may be able to make some headway.

And, with the cost of a replacement floppy drive being so low, I would
suggest you first start by fitting a new one (or at least find out why

the
old one doesn't work) - you're going to need.

Mart


"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
I've been taking care of my pc health without a doctor's diploma. I'm

not
even a nurse. I've been doing good so far by information I find when

I
google whatever problem I am trying to solve. Sometimes I get lucky ,
sometimes takes a while , long while to find the right solution... I

wish
I
knew about this place. I found you guys as I wasresearching my

current
problem and started to read and read and , boy oh boy, I forgot my

problem
.
I learned more in a couple of thread than all the research I've done

in my
pc's life. Unfortunatelly, I do have a problem and desperation is
leading
my life. I deleted boot files by accident and do not have a working

a:
drive
to boot from with my startup floppy. I am happy with ME but all this

about
not getting support anymore has been bothering me. So I started

reading
up
on how to upgrade to XP since I am going to perform the OS change

surgery
myself and did not want to make any mistake... so much for that......
mistake
happened before surgery and don't ask how I happened to have my boot

up
floopy inside a: drive and while doing some file cleaning as part of

my
preparing for upgrade I deleted the essentials boot files.. I was

trying
out
this "easycleaner" application and one of it's features deletes

duplicate
files and you guessed it, boot up floppy in a: drive and, of course ,

the
originals in c: drive , "easycleaner" opted for the ones in c: and now

I
have
no boot up files on c: and my pc has not been able to recognize a:

drive
for
quite a while so I am DOOMED /// or am I? I am confident someone

here
will
bring me back. Do not understand how my pc can read a: drive, yet ,

here
comes "easycleaner" and had no problem picking up those files in the
floppy.
Sorry to make long story, .... please help me . don't worry about

making
long story... I follow word by word if you give me hope... I 've

clumpsy
before but now I've really done it. I got to this newsgroup while

reading
about some flash drive booting approach but Im afraid it was little

to
hard
to understand and....... neveer mind , just tell me what to do , Por
Favor.
Ricardo






  #22  
Old October 11th 06, 10:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,190
Default can not boot.

OK Ricardo, let's just recap : I ASS-U-ME that you are still using your
friend's laptop pc AND it has a working A: drive, and that you have floppy
disk available.

I've just tried this myself, so I know it works OK here in the UK (see later
note) :-
Go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and Insert the floppy disk into
the A: drive. Click on "Windows Me OEM | MIRROR1" option. (DO NOT download
the "Custom, No Ramdrive" option)

Select the "Run" option and follow the screen prompts which will create the
WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk - it may take a couple of minutes or so to
complete and then you should have a 'good' WinMe Strartup Disk.

(N.B. MIRROR sites are various 'download sites' around the world, some may
work for you - some may not. Here in the UK, MIRROR1 worked for me. If
necessary, you *may* need to try MIRROR" or MIRROR3)

BTW - The WinMe Startup Disk is sometimes referred to as the EBD (Emergency
Boot Disk)

Good luck

Mart



"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
Im sorry Mart. I'll stick to the problem.
Indeed, something wrong with hard drive, but before this mess happened and
hard drive was ok, I was not able to access neither floppy a: drive nor
dvd
cd-rom, only my cd burner which I have replaced with a dvd burner and was
working ok 'til now.
I did download boot up floppy from bootdisk.com and inserted it when pc
asked me to "Replace invalid disk and press any key" and nothing
happened..
You say I'm suppose to run the floppy to actually create bootdisk... Im
afraid I do not understand.. I downloaded file from bootdisk.com directly
into a floppy disk using my friend's laptop. Is that not creating a boot
disk?

"Mart" wrote:

Ricardo, very interesting though your life story may be to some, long
rambling replies are not going to help solve your problem.

You didn't directly answer my previous question -

Exactly what error message do you see on your screen?


However, if I understand your 'verbose messages' elsewhere in this
thread,
it would appear that your hard drive is badly affected and therefore you
MUST HAVE a working A: drive AND a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk
before
we can proceed.

If you haven't got a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk, you can download
a
WinMe bootdisk making utility (Windows Me OEM) from
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm - (**But be sure to read the
instructions on how to actually create the bootdisk**.)

Don't just copy the download to a floppy disk, you need to run the
downloaded file on your computer (any computer, with an A:drive) for it
to
actually create the Startup (floppy) disk.

Good luck

Mart


"rpmsfpr" wrote :-

Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and Heirloom's
messages..


snipped in the interests of brevity





  #23  
Old October 11th 06, 09:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
rpmsfpr
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 19
Default can not boot.

Done, Mart.
Got me EBD just like you instructed me.
Mart, I ' ve notice that when I turn machine on, lights for cd and dvd rom
come on but the light for the floppy does not. Is that an issue? Perhpaps
my floppy drive is not connected properly . I have disconnected it before,
not sure if I connected it back the right way. Any way of telling?

"Mart" wrote:

OK Ricardo, let's just recap : I ASS-U-ME that you are still using your
friend's laptop pc AND it has a working A: drive, and that you have floppy
disk available.

I've just tried this myself, so I know it works OK here in the UK (see later
note) :-
Go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and Insert the floppy disk into
the A: drive. Click on "Windows Me OEM | MIRROR1" option. (DO NOT download
the "Custom, No Ramdrive" option)

Select the "Run" option and follow the screen prompts which will create the
WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk - it may take a couple of minutes or so to
complete and then you should have a 'good' WinMe Strartup Disk.

(N.B. MIRROR sites are various 'download sites' around the world, some may
work for you - some may not. Here in the UK, MIRROR1 worked for me. If
necessary, you *may* need to try MIRROR" or MIRROR3)

BTW - The WinMe Startup Disk is sometimes referred to as the EBD (Emergency
Boot Disk)

Good luck

Mart



"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
Im sorry Mart. I'll stick to the problem.
Indeed, something wrong with hard drive, but before this mess happened and
hard drive was ok, I was not able to access neither floppy a: drive nor
dvd
cd-rom, only my cd burner which I have replaced with a dvd burner and was
working ok 'til now.
I did download boot up floppy from bootdisk.com and inserted it when pc
asked me to "Replace invalid disk and press any key" and nothing
happened..
You say I'm suppose to run the floppy to actually create bootdisk... Im
afraid I do not understand.. I downloaded file from bootdisk.com directly
into a floppy disk using my friend's laptop. Is that not creating a boot
disk?

"Mart" wrote:

Ricardo, very interesting though your life story may be to some, long
rambling replies are not going to help solve your problem.

You didn't directly answer my previous question -

Exactly what error message do you see on your screen?

However, if I understand your 'verbose messages' elsewhere in this
thread,
it would appear that your hard drive is badly affected and therefore you
MUST HAVE a working A: drive AND a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk
before
we can proceed.

If you haven't got a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk, you can download
a
WinMe bootdisk making utility (Windows Me OEM) from
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm - (**But be sure to read the
instructions on how to actually create the bootdisk**.)

Don't just copy the download to a floppy disk, you need to run the
downloaded file on your computer (any computer, with an A:drive) for it
to
actually create the Startup (floppy) disk.

Good luck

Mart


"rpmsfpr" wrote :-

Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and Heirloom's
messages..

snipped in the interests of brevity






  #24  
Old October 11th 06, 09:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
rpmsfpr
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 19
Default can not boot.

Hola Heirloom,
I did just like Mart told me. Made EBD with the Mirror1 option. I also
told Mart that I noticed when I turn machine on, lights for cd-rom and dvd -
burner will go on but the floppy light does not... maybe my floppy drive not
connected right?

"Heirloom" wrote:

Ricardo,
Flip your switch from 78 back to 33 1/3.........good........now, as
Mart said, let's tackle these items one-at-a-time until we get you back up
and running. It will expedite matters if you keep your responses clear and
concise regarding requested information. Now, as Mart requested....
download and prepare a valid EBD, Emergency Boot Disk, and let us know when
you have that in hand.
Heirloom, old and wet with anticipation

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ricardo, very interesting though your life story may be to some, long
rambling replies are not going to help solve your problem.

You didn't directly answer my previous question -

Exactly what error message do you see on your screen?


However, if I understand your 'verbose messages' elsewhere in this thread,
it would appear that your hard drive is badly affected and therefore you
MUST HAVE a working A: drive AND a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk
before we can proceed.

If you haven't got a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk, you can download
a WinMe bootdisk making utility (Windows Me OEM) from
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm - (**But be sure to read the
instructions on how to actually create the bootdisk**.)

Don't just copy the download to a floppy disk, you need to run the
downloaded file on your computer (any computer, with an A:drive) for it to
actually create the Startup (floppy) disk.

Good luck

Mart


"rpmsfpr" wrote :-

Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and Heirloom's
messages..


snipped in the interests of brevity




  #25  
Old October 12th 06, 12:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,190
Default can not boot.

Sorry Ricardo, I missed that in your previous post. Sounds like you've got
the 34 way signal cable plugged in upside-down.

The black (or red) stripe on the edge of the cable should be near the middle
of the back of the drive (pin 1) and NOT towards the outer edge of the drive
(pin 34)

Mart


"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
Done, Mart.
Got me EBD just like you instructed me.
Mart, I ' ve notice that when I turn machine on, lights for cd and dvd rom
come on but the light for the floppy does not. Is that an issue?
Perhpaps
my floppy drive is not connected properly . I have disconnected it
before,
not sure if I connected it back the right way. Any way of telling?

"Mart" wrote:

OK Ricardo, let's just recap : I ASS-U-ME that you are still using your
friend's laptop pc AND it has a working A: drive, and that you have
floppy
disk available.

I've just tried this myself, so I know it works OK here in the UK (see
later
note) :-
Go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and Insert the floppy disk
into
the A: drive. Click on "Windows Me OEM | MIRROR1" option. (DO NOT
download
the "Custom, No Ramdrive" option)

Select the "Run" option and follow the screen prompts which will create
the
WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk - it may take a couple of minutes or so to
complete and then you should have a 'good' WinMe Strartup Disk.

(N.B. MIRROR sites are various 'download sites' around the world, some
may
work for you - some may not. Here in the UK, MIRROR1 worked for me. If
necessary, you *may* need to try MIRROR" or MIRROR3)

BTW - The WinMe Startup Disk is sometimes referred to as the EBD
(Emergency
Boot Disk)

Good luck

Mart



"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
Im sorry Mart. I'll stick to the problem.
Indeed, something wrong with hard drive, but before this mess happened
and
hard drive was ok, I was not able to access neither floppy a: drive nor
dvd
cd-rom, only my cd burner which I have replaced with a dvd burner and
was
working ok 'til now.
I did download boot up floppy from bootdisk.com and inserted it when pc
asked me to "Replace invalid disk and press any key" and nothing
happened..
You say I'm suppose to run the floppy to actually create bootdisk... Im
afraid I do not understand.. I downloaded file from bootdisk.com
directly
into a floppy disk using my friend's laptop. Is that not creating a
boot
disk?

"Mart" wrote:

Ricardo, very interesting though your life story may be to some, long
rambling replies are not going to help solve your problem.

You didn't directly answer my previous question -

Exactly what error message do you see on your screen?

However, if I understand your 'verbose messages' elsewhere in this
thread,
it would appear that your hard drive is badly affected and therefore
you
MUST HAVE a working A: drive AND a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk
before
we can proceed.

If you haven't got a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk, you can
download
a
WinMe bootdisk making utility (Windows Me OEM) from
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm - (**But be sure to read the
instructions on how to actually create the bootdisk**.)

Don't just copy the download to a floppy disk, you need to run the
downloaded file on your computer (any computer, with an A:drive) for
it
to
actually create the Startup (floppy) disk.

Good luck

Mart


"rpmsfpr" wrote :-

Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and
Heirloom's
messages..

snipped in the interests of brevity








  #26  
Old October 12th 06, 02:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Heirloom
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 384
Default can not boot.

You are doing fine now, Ricardo.....no need for apologies. The important
thing is that we get your machine back up and running properly. I see that
Mart has already instructed you on the possible cable issue on the floppy
drive. It is very easy to get that cable backwards and the drive will not
function.

Well, I see he also informed you about the Boot Disk, the procedures and
what a 'Mirror' is. Thanks Mart.......I can't think of anything to add!
Heirloom, old and just looking over
shoulders

"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
To you too my apologies Ed. You are right. I will stick to answering, but
the zig zag format of how this goes sometimes confuse me as if I answered
or
not but I think I'm getting it.



  #27  
Old October 12th 06, 07:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
rpmsfpr
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 19
Default can not boot.

Mart, still no light on floppy. Im lost. Maybe floppy drive no good...
should I connect a different one/?

"Mart" wrote:

Sorry Ricardo, I missed that in your previous post. Sounds like you've got
the 34 way signal cable plugged in upside-down.

The black (or red) stripe on the edge of the cable should be near the middle
of the back of the drive (pin 1) and NOT towards the outer edge of the drive
(pin 34)

Mart


"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
Done, Mart.
Got me EBD just like you instructed me.
Mart, I ' ve notice that when I turn machine on, lights for cd and dvd rom
come on but the light for the floppy does not. Is that an issue?
Perhpaps
my floppy drive is not connected properly . I have disconnected it
before,
not sure if I connected it back the right way. Any way of telling?

"Mart" wrote:

OK Ricardo, let's just recap : I ASS-U-ME that you are still using your
friend's laptop pc AND it has a working A: drive, and that you have
floppy
disk available.

I've just tried this myself, so I know it works OK here in the UK (see
later
note) :-
Go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and Insert the floppy disk
into
the A: drive. Click on "Windows Me OEM | MIRROR1" option. (DO NOT
download
the "Custom, No Ramdrive" option)

Select the "Run" option and follow the screen prompts which will create
the
WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk - it may take a couple of minutes or so to
complete and then you should have a 'good' WinMe Strartup Disk.

(N.B. MIRROR sites are various 'download sites' around the world, some
may
work for you - some may not. Here in the UK, MIRROR1 worked for me. If
necessary, you *may* need to try MIRROR" or MIRROR3)

BTW - The WinMe Startup Disk is sometimes referred to as the EBD
(Emergency
Boot Disk)

Good luck

Mart



"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
Im sorry Mart. I'll stick to the problem.
Indeed, something wrong with hard drive, but before this mess happened
and
hard drive was ok, I was not able to access neither floppy a: drive nor
dvd
cd-rom, only my cd burner which I have replaced with a dvd burner and
was
working ok 'til now.
I did download boot up floppy from bootdisk.com and inserted it when pc
asked me to "Replace invalid disk and press any key" and nothing
happened..
You say I'm suppose to run the floppy to actually create bootdisk... Im
afraid I do not understand.. I downloaded file from bootdisk.com
directly
into a floppy disk using my friend's laptop. Is that not creating a
boot
disk?

"Mart" wrote:

Ricardo, very interesting though your life story may be to some, long
rambling replies are not going to help solve your problem.

You didn't directly answer my previous question -

Exactly what error message do you see on your screen?

However, if I understand your 'verbose messages' elsewhere in this
thread,
it would appear that your hard drive is badly affected and therefore
you
MUST HAVE a working A: drive AND a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk
before
we can proceed.

If you haven't got a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk, you can
download
a
WinMe bootdisk making utility (Windows Me OEM) from
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm - (**But be sure to read the
instructions on how to actually create the bootdisk**.)

Don't just copy the download to a floppy disk, you need to run the
downloaded file on your computer (any computer, with an A:drive) for
it
to
actually create the Startup (floppy) disk.

Good luck

Mart


"rpmsfpr" wrote :-

Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and
Heirloom's
messages..

snipped in the interests of brevity









  #28  
Old October 12th 06, 07:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
rpmsfpr
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 19
Default can not boot.

Heirloom, Im doing everything Mart says but can't get floppy drive to light
up// what am I doing wrong?

"Heirloom" wrote:

You are doing fine now, Ricardo.....no need for apologies. The important
thing is that we get your machine back up and running properly. I see that
Mart has already instructed you on the possible cable issue on the floppy
drive. It is very easy to get that cable backwards and the drive will not
function.

Well, I see he also informed you about the Boot Disk, the procedures and
what a 'Mirror' is. Thanks Mart.......I can't think of anything to add!
Heirloom, old and just looking over
shoulders

"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
To you too my apologies Ed. You are right. I will stick to answering, but
the zig zag format of how this goes sometimes confuse me as if I answered
or
not but I think I'm getting it.




  #29  
Old October 12th 06, 08:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
rpmsfpr
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 19
Default can not boot.

Ok Mart , red stripe with pin 1. /what about the other connector, the one
with the color wires. not sure where it goes. Is at the end of the
connectors connected to the cd/dvd roms. It has a number 6 on it. Then I have
another just like it with a bigger one just hanging by itself.That one has a
number 8 ,, and then the one connected to hard drive with another I believe
is for the slave hard drive...... but I tell you, no light goes on the floppy
when I turn machine on
"Mart" wrote:

Sorry Ricardo, I missed that in your previous post. Sounds like you've got
the 34 way signal cable plugged in upside-down.

The black (or red) stripe on the edge of the cable should be near the middle
of the back of the drive (pin 1) and NOT towards the outer edge of the drive
(pin 34)

Mart


"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
Done, Mart.
Got me EBD just like you instructed me.
Mart, I ' ve notice that when I turn machine on, lights for cd and dvd rom
come on but the light for the floppy does not. Is that an issue?
Perhpaps
my floppy drive is not connected properly . I have disconnected it
before,
not sure if I connected it back the right way. Any way of telling?

"Mart" wrote:

OK Ricardo, let's just recap : I ASS-U-ME that you are still using your
friend's laptop pc AND it has a working A: drive, and that you have
floppy
disk available.

I've just tried this myself, so I know it works OK here in the UK (see
later
note) :-
Go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and Insert the floppy disk
into
the A: drive. Click on "Windows Me OEM | MIRROR1" option. (DO NOT
download
the "Custom, No Ramdrive" option)

Select the "Run" option and follow the screen prompts which will create
the
WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk - it may take a couple of minutes or so to
complete and then you should have a 'good' WinMe Strartup Disk.

(N.B. MIRROR sites are various 'download sites' around the world, some
may
work for you - some may not. Here in the UK, MIRROR1 worked for me. If
necessary, you *may* need to try MIRROR" or MIRROR3)

BTW - The WinMe Startup Disk is sometimes referred to as the EBD
(Emergency
Boot Disk)

Good luck

Mart



"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
Im sorry Mart. I'll stick to the problem.
Indeed, something wrong with hard drive, but before this mess happened
and
hard drive was ok, I was not able to access neither floppy a: drive nor
dvd
cd-rom, only my cd burner which I have replaced with a dvd burner and
was
working ok 'til now.
I did download boot up floppy from bootdisk.com and inserted it when pc
asked me to "Replace invalid disk and press any key" and nothing
happened..
You say I'm suppose to run the floppy to actually create bootdisk... Im
afraid I do not understand.. I downloaded file from bootdisk.com
directly
into a floppy disk using my friend's laptop. Is that not creating a
boot
disk?

"Mart" wrote:

Ricardo, very interesting though your life story may be to some, long
rambling replies are not going to help solve your problem.

You didn't directly answer my previous question -

Exactly what error message do you see on your screen?

However, if I understand your 'verbose messages' elsewhere in this
thread,
it would appear that your hard drive is badly affected and therefore
you
MUST HAVE a working A: drive AND a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk
before
we can proceed.

If you haven't got a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk, you can
download
a
WinMe bootdisk making utility (Windows Me OEM) from
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm - (**But be sure to read the
instructions on how to actually create the bootdisk**.)

Don't just copy the download to a floppy disk, you need to run the
downloaded file on your computer (any computer, with an A:drive) for
it
to
actually create the Startup (floppy) disk.

Good luck

Mart


"rpmsfpr" wrote :-

Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and
Heirloom's
messages..

snipped in the interests of brevity









  #30  
Old October 12th 06, 09:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,190
Default can not boot.

Again, I seem to have missed something (probably due to the timing and
interleaving of your posts and my replies) but I *may* have misled both you
and myself a little. I (mis)understood you to have implied that the A: drive
light was permanently lit - a sure sign that the 34way cable is reversed
(upside-down). However, if I now understand you correctly, you are
suggesting that you get no light activity at all from the A: drive.

That light would 'normally' flash a couple of times (and you might also hear
some mechanical activity) during the POST (Power-On-Self-Test) stage of the
boot process - with or without a floppy disk in the drive - even before the
computer tries to start Windows.

Confirm that the 34way signal cable is correctly connected at BOTH ends and
its connectors are firmly seated - and whilst your about it, check the
seating of your CD-ROM and DVD cables.

Note also that the 34way connector which is connected to the A: drive is the
end connector - the one AFTER the twist in the ribbon cable. (The middle
connector is for a second floppy (B: drive), if fitted!)

You may also need to confirm that the A: drive is enabled in your BIOS.

Not too sure what you mean by :- "what about the other connector, the one
with the color wires." - Do you mean the 4way power cable connectors? -
they will (should!) only connect one way - unless you've forced them.

If you are in some doubt about the interconnections to your drives etc., -
it *might* be worth consulting your local PC store or technician for
advice - something we can't visually check over the internet g But then
again, a replacement A: drive is not expensive (as I suggested earlier) only
a couple of $/£ or so.

Mart



"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
Ok Mart , red stripe with pin 1. /what about the other connector, the
one
with the color wires. not sure where it goes. Is at the end of the
connectors connected to the cd/dvd roms. It has a number 6 on it. Then I
have
another just like it with a bigger one just hanging by itself.That one has
a
number 8 ,, and then the one connected to hard drive with another I
believe
is for the slave hard drive...... but I tell you, no light goes on the
floppy
when I turn machine on
"Mart" wrote:

Sorry Ricardo, I missed that in your previous post. Sounds like you've
got
the 34 way signal cable plugged in upside-down.

The black (or red) stripe on the edge of the cable should be near the
middle
of the back of the drive (pin 1) and NOT towards the outer edge of the
drive
(pin 34)

Mart


"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
Done, Mart.
Got me EBD just like you instructed me.
Mart, I ' ve notice that when I turn machine on, lights for cd and dvd
rom
come on but the light for the floppy does not. Is that an issue?
Perhpaps
my floppy drive is not connected properly . I have disconnected it
before,
not sure if I connected it back the right way. Any way of telling?

"Mart" wrote:

OK Ricardo, let's just recap : I ASS-U-ME that you are still using
your
friend's laptop pc AND it has a working A: drive, and that you have
floppy
disk available.

I've just tried this myself, so I know it works OK here in the UK (see
later
note) :-
Go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and Insert the floppy disk
into
the A: drive. Click on "Windows Me OEM | MIRROR1" option. (DO NOT
download
the "Custom, No Ramdrive" option)

Select the "Run" option and follow the screen prompts which will
create
the
WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk - it may take a couple of minutes or so to
complete and then you should have a 'good' WinMe Strartup Disk.

(N.B. MIRROR sites are various 'download sites' around the world, some
may
work for you - some may not. Here in the UK, MIRROR1 worked for me.
If
necessary, you *may* need to try MIRROR" or MIRROR3)

BTW - The WinMe Startup Disk is sometimes referred to as the EBD
(Emergency
Boot Disk)

Good luck

Mart



"rpmsfpr" wrote in message
...
Im sorry Mart. I'll stick to the problem.
Indeed, something wrong with hard drive, but before this mess
happened
and
hard drive was ok, I was not able to access neither floppy a: drive
nor
dvd
cd-rom, only my cd burner which I have replaced with a dvd burner
and
was
working ok 'til now.
I did download boot up floppy from bootdisk.com and inserted it when
pc
asked me to "Replace invalid disk and press any key" and nothing
happened..
You say I'm suppose to run the floppy to actually create bootdisk...
Im
afraid I do not understand.. I downloaded file from bootdisk.com
directly
into a floppy disk using my friend's laptop. Is that not creating a
boot
disk?

"Mart" wrote:

Ricardo, very interesting though your life story may be to some,
long
rambling replies are not going to help solve your problem.

You didn't directly answer my previous question -

Exactly what error message do you see on your screen?

However, if I understand your 'verbose messages' elsewhere in this
thread,
it would appear that your hard drive is badly affected and
therefore
you
MUST HAVE a working A: drive AND a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy)
disk
before
we can proceed.

If you haven't got a 'good' WinMe Startup (floppy) disk, you can
download
a
WinMe bootdisk making utility (Windows Me OEM) from
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm - (**But be sure to read the
instructions on how to actually create the bootdisk**.)

Don't just copy the download to a floppy disk, you need to run the
downloaded file on your computer (any computer, with an A:drive)
for
it
to
actually create the Startup (floppy) disk.

Good luck

Mart


"rpmsfpr" wrote :-

Hola Mart.. I just spent couple hours responding to you and
Heirloom's
messages..

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