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Noel - CDRTC.DLL
John: I have the sneaking suspision that those are the contents of the startup floppy. When I tried to confirm, I discovered the floppy drive not being able to read either. Somewhere along the way, when booting with the startup disk, I've seen the word 'Adaptec' and it makes me wonder, after I deleted all evidence of it. I also have a 100MB zip drive as Floppy B, but that one works. Harry. "John John" wrote in message ... And where did chkdsk come from??? John John wrote: Is that the FORMAT command that I saw there? webster72n wrote: I actually enjoyed doing this, Mart. There were no error reports and I did get the listing of the CD contents. This was on drive 'G', the virtual drive, I believe. I also tried the same with the actual cd-rom drive 'F' with these results (without a cd in it): "Volume in drive F is MS-RAMDRIVE, Directory of F:\ ATTRIB EXE 15,252 06-07-00 8:05p CHKDSK EXE (omitted to ease operation) COMMAND COM " DEBUG EXE " EDIT COM " EXTRACT EXE " FORMAT COM " HELP BAT " MSCDEX EXE " README TXT " SCANDISK EXE " SCANDISK INI " SYS COM " 14 file(s) 655.851 bytes 0 dir(s) 1,427,456 bytes free." By the looks of it I may have omitted one of the files, there are only thirteen upon counting. If it should matter, I will give you the possibly missing one later. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Harry. "Mart" wrote in message ... First a note to Heather :- It's been a V E R Y L O N G trek Heather, - around the houses, but Harry and I are (I hope) making some progress, albeit three forward and two back. I hope to nail the issue of a 'suspect' CD-ROM (writer) so please bear with me. BTW - Real Mode DOS - as per WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk. Oh! and Harry, NOT Safe Mode!! Now to Harry, put your Error Report to one side for a moment - with a bit of luck things *should* become clearer. You need to try to determine whether the problem with your CD-ROM drive is a WinMe/Software issue or a genuine 'faulty' CD-ROM and/or associated cabling/connections. Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk in the A: drive. Select option 2. Start computer with CD-ROM support. Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which should report a drive letter for your CD-ROM. You should be aware that the drive letter may not necessarily the same letter as you would expect to see in Windows. For example, you may see the CD-ROM becoming the E:, so the screen should show: Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0 Your CD-ROM Is Drive E When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an A:\ prompt. Now put a 'good' data CD (e.g. cover disk from a magazine) into the CD-ROM and at the A:\ prompt, type "E:" (no quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return. Now, at the E:\ prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then press Return. You should see a listing of the CD contents. Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any. Mart "webster72n" wrote in message ... What'n the h*** are you raving about, Heather? All you have to do is, look at Mart's last thread, I didn't make that up. As for the rest of your comments, I can do without, thank you. Harry. "Heather" wrote in message ... What in heck is "REAL MODE DOS"???? Is this Merkin-speak for something? WinME doesn't have DOS. So pardon me if I ask you what in h*ll you are talking about. I think it is about time you took that machine into a tech who knows what he is doing and forget mucking about yourself......you usually screw it up good!! And then do another reinstall.....#65 coming up?? I have lost track. HF "webster72n" wrote in message ... It must have escaped my attention, Mart, but how does one "confirm" the CD-ROM (there's only one) in Real Mode DOS? Somehow I have the suspicion, that's where the problem originated. Harry. "Mart" wrote in message ... Harry, I still get the very same error message and nothing changed from the way it was before. Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions. Just to recap :- When things were normal g what were ALL your 'original' drive letters, according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have connected? (e.g. A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,) Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive letters? Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS? BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the News Groups. Mart "webster72n" wrote in message ... Noel: After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following your instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing changed from the way it was before. My only hope is replacement, but will it work? What is the status on my report? Harry. |
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Noel - CDRTC.DLL
I've always been a fan of good mysteries. That must be the draw.
Mart wrote: LOL - But I suppose it does depend upon exactly which facet of his 'current issues' you wish to forensically debate. Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out. g Mart "TomV" wrote in message ... Hi, Mart, Thanks for the heads up. I recall the partitioning issue from many months ago. I didn't realize it was that long ago. It sounded in Harry's response though that he had entered the "partition zone" again. If so, it seemed that it might identify a potential cause of the current issue. I certainly don't want to revisit territory that's already been well charted. Tom Mart wrote: Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated space" is another V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling many News Group column inches, for which everyone and his dog has tried to get Harry to fix. Best left well alone g .. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands Couldn't possibly comment g Mart |
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Noel - CDRTC.DLL
"TomV" wrote in message
... I've always been a fan of good mysteries. That must be the draw. Perfect lead in......I have a problem with Firefox and have looked on the Forum and tried some of the troubleshooting things (safe mode, etc)....but it keeps hanging on me since that last update to 5.0.3. Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts? Would removing my 2 extensions and 4 themes perhaps help?? Just have IEView and Foxytunes. I would like to get it working properly before I set up the router again (groan!!). Cheers...Heather Mart wrote: LOL - But I suppose it does depend upon exactly which facet of his 'current issues' you wish to forensically debate. Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out. g Mart "TomV" wrote in message ... Hi, Mart, Thanks for the heads up. I recall the partitioning issue from many months ago. I didn't realize it was that long ago. It sounded in Harry's response though that he had entered the "partition zone" again. If so, it seemed that it might identify a potential cause of the current issue. I certainly don't want to revisit territory that's already been well charted. Tom Mart wrote: Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated space" is another V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling many News Group column inches, for which everyone and his dog has tried to get Harry to fix. Best left well alone g .. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands Couldn't possibly comment g Mart |
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Noel - CDRTC.DLL
They are, indeed, the contents of the Floppy, Harry - as you should well
know by how (we've told you often enough!), Win ME increments the CD drive letters by one when booting from a floppy in order to insert a RAMDRIVE into the created space. This is because of the enumeration order forced by DOS/FAT boots. It looks to me as if your CD works fine - so it is indeed a software problem WRT your Floppy not working, this is because, with another floppy in there, it's trying to read one at the same time as reading another - try - with the boot floppy still in the drive - "dir B:\" - and then swap the floppies when directed. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "webster72n" wrote in message ... John: I have the sneaking suspision that those are the contents of the startup floppy. When I tried to confirm, I discovered the floppy drive not being able to read either. Somewhere along the way, when booting with the startup disk, I've seen the word 'Adaptec' and it makes me wonder, after I deleted all evidence of it. I also have a 100MB zip drive as Floppy B, but that one works. Harry. "John John" wrote in message ... And where did chkdsk come from??? John John wrote: Is that the FORMAT command that I saw there? webster72n wrote: I actually enjoyed doing this, Mart. There were no error reports and I did get the listing of the CD contents. This was on drive 'G', the virtual drive, I believe. I also tried the same with the actual cd-rom drive 'F' with these results (without a cd in it): "Volume in drive F is MS-RAMDRIVE, Directory of F:\ ATTRIB EXE 15,252 06-07-00 8:05p CHKDSK EXE (omitted to ease operation) COMMAND COM " DEBUG EXE " EDIT COM " EXTRACT EXE " FORMAT COM " HELP BAT " MSCDEX EXE " README TXT " SCANDISK EXE " SCANDISK INI " SYS COM " 14 file(s) 655.851 bytes 0 dir(s) 1,427,456 bytes free." By the looks of it I may have omitted one of the files, there are only thirteen upon counting. If it should matter, I will give you the possibly missing one later. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Harry. "Mart" wrote in message ... First a note to Heather :- It's been a V E R Y L O N G trek Heather, - around the houses, but Harry and I are (I hope) making some progress, albeit three forward and two back. I hope to nail the issue of a 'suspect' CD-ROM (writer) so please bear with me. BTW - Real Mode DOS - as per WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk. Oh! and Harry, NOT Safe Mode!! Now to Harry, put your Error Report to one side for a moment - with a bit of luck things *should* become clearer. You need to try to determine whether the problem with your CD-ROM drive is a WinMe/Software issue or a genuine 'faulty' CD-ROM and/or associated cabling/connections. Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk in the A: drive. Select option 2. Start computer with CD-ROM support. Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which should report a drive letter for your CD-ROM. You should be aware that the drive letter may not necessarily the same letter as you would expect to see in Windows. For example, you may see the CD-ROM becoming the E:, so the screen should show: Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0 Your CD-ROM Is Drive E When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an A:\ prompt. Now put a 'good' data CD (e.g. cover disk from a magazine) into the CD-ROM and at the A:\ prompt, type "E:" (no quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return. Now, at the E:\ prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then press Return. You should see a listing of the CD contents. Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any. Mart "webster72n" wrote in message ... What'n the h*** are you raving about, Heather? All you have to do is, look at Mart's last thread, I didn't make that up. As for the rest of your comments, I can do without, thank you. Harry. "Heather" wrote in message ... What in heck is "REAL MODE DOS"???? Is this Merkin-speak for something? WinME doesn't have DOS. So pardon me if I ask you what in h*ll you are talking about. I think it is about time you took that machine into a tech who knows what he is doing and forget mucking about yourself......you usually screw it up good!! And then do another reinstall.....#65 coming up?? I have lost track. HF "webster72n" wrote in message ... It must have escaped my attention, Mart, but how does one "confirm" the CD-ROM (there's only one) in Real Mode DOS? Somehow I have the suspicion, that's where the problem originated. Harry. "Mart" wrote in message ... Harry, I still get the very same error message and nothing changed from the way it was before. Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions. Just to recap :- When things were normal g what were ALL your 'original' drive letters, according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have connected? (e.g. A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,) Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive letters? Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS? BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the News Groups. Mart "webster72n" wrote in message ... Noel: After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following your instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing changed from the way it was before. My only hope is replacement, but will it work? What is the status on my report? Harry. |
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Noel - CDRTC.DLL
Harry,
Please, please, please, ......... Please just follow the instructions, Harry. Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk in the A: drive. Select option 2. Start computer with CD-ROM support. Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which should report a drive letter for your CD-ROM. ****You should be aware that the drive letter may not necessarily the same letter as you would expect to see in Windows.**** NOTE THE FIRST WORDS OF THE NEXT LINE!!!!!!! ***For example,**** you may see the CD-ROM becoming the E:, so the screen should show: Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0 Your CD-ROM Is Drive E THE CD-ROM MAY BECOME THE Z DRIVE FOR ALL IT MATTERS !! JUST USE THE LETTER IT TELLS YOU When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an A:\ prompt. Now put a 'good' data CD (e.g. cover disk from a magazine) into the CD-ROM and at the A:\ prompt, type "E:" (OR WHATEVER IT TOLD YOU ABOVE) (no quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return. "E" IS AN EXAMPLE HARRY - USE THE ACTUAL LETTER SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN!!!! Now, at the E:\ prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then press Return. You should see a listing of the CD contents. Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any. If you can see some sort of listing then your CD-ROM is probably OK (please don't print the listing, the fact that you see one is all that matters - as long as it's the listing of the contents of the CD!!!!!!) If you see anything else e.g. Cannot find disk, Abort, Retry, etc., then you have a faulty CD-ROM (or associated cabling etc.) Mart snipped |
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Noel - CDRTC.DLL
Heather, being a 'simple soul' and unlike Harry, I try to keep to the bare
minimum 'essentials' on my machines g I don't, and never have, used Firefox, I have always used IE which has never given me any particular hassle. ... Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts? What about just 'uninstalling' it only. And (re)learn to live with IE. It's not that bad. Fit for purpose! - a 'new' phrase going around the UK at present (or not!!) Bell's, Whistle's, who needs them? Self inflicted misery perhaps? Ah! but we're back to Harry's problems again. Mart "Heather" wrote in message ... "TomV" wrote in message ... I've always been a fan of good mysteries. That must be the draw. Perfect lead in......I have a problem with Firefox and have looked on the Forum and tried some of the troubleshooting things (safe mode, etc)....but it keeps hanging on me since that last update to 5.0.3. Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts? Would removing my 2 extensions and 4 themes perhaps help?? Just have IEView and Foxytunes. I would like to get it working properly before I set up the router again (groan!!). Cheers...Heather Mart wrote: LOL - But I suppose it does depend upon exactly which facet of his 'current issues' you wish to forensically debate. Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out. g Mart "TomV" wrote in message ... Hi, Mart, Thanks for the heads up. I recall the partitioning issue from many months ago. I didn't realize it was that long ago. It sounded in Harry's response though that he had entered the "partition zone" again. If so, it seemed that it might identify a potential cause of the current issue. I certainly don't want to revisit territory that's already been well charted. Tom Mart wrote: Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated space" is another V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling many News Group column inches, for which everyone and his dog has tried to get Harry to fix. Best left well alone g .. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands Couldn't possibly comment g Mart |
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Noel - CDRTC.DLL
Hi, Heather,
How are you? You could try systematically removing extensions and themes to see if resolves the issue. I'd suggest starting with Foxytunes. If removing the extension solves the problem, you can then try reinstalling it using the latest version of the extension. I've not used Foxytunes, but I do use IEView. I've had no problems with the latest Firefox release both on WinME and XP. Here's a link (you may have seen this already) that walks you through troubleshooting "hanging" problems with FF. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_hangs Let me know how you fare. Cheers, Tom Heather wrote: "TomV" wrote in message ... I've always been a fan of good mysteries. That must be the draw. Perfect lead in......I have a problem with Firefox and have looked on the Forum and tried some of the troubleshooting things (safe mode, etc)....but it keeps hanging on me since that last update to 5.0.3. Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts? Would removing my 2 extensions and 4 themes perhaps help?? Just have IEView and Foxytunes. I would like to get it working properly before I set up the router again (groan!!). Cheers...Heather |
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Noel - CDRTC.DLL
Mart: May I say "please" now? I did exactly what you said and came up with a positive result. In other words, the cd-rom drive is okey. All I did was go one step further and examined the "fixed" cd-rom drive "F" for "confirmation. Now I am going to try Noel's advice and see whether I'll be able to "fix" the software problem I'm apparently having, or a shift in drive letters. With your help I know I can manage. Thank you so very much for your patient assistance. Harry. "Mart" wrote in message ... Harry, Please, please, please, ......... Please just follow the instructions, Harry. Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk in the A: drive. Select option 2. Start computer with CD-ROM support. Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which should report a drive letter for your CD-ROM. ****You should be aware that the drive letter may not necessarily the same letter as you would expect to see in Windows.**** NOTE THE FIRST WORDS OF THE NEXT LINE!!!!!!! ***For example,**** you may see the CD-ROM becoming the E:, so the screen should show: Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0 Your CD-ROM Is Drive E THE CD-ROM MAY BECOME THE Z DRIVE FOR ALL IT MATTERS !! JUST USE THE LETTER IT TELLS YOU When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an A:\ prompt. Now put a 'good' data CD (e.g. cover disk from a magazine) into the CD-ROM and at the A:\ prompt, type "E:" (OR WHATEVER IT TOLD YOU ABOVE) (no quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return. "E" IS AN EXAMPLE HARRY - USE THE ACTUAL LETTER SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN!!!! Now, at the E:\ prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then press Return. You should see a listing of the CD contents. Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any. If you can see some sort of listing then your CD-ROM is probably OK (please don't print the listing, the fact that you see one is all that matters - as long as it's the listing of the contents of the CD!!!!!!) If you see anything else e.g. Cannot find disk, Abort, Retry, etc., then you have a faulty CD-ROM (or associated cabling etc.) Mart snipped |
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Hi Tom.....
Just fine here.....thanks. I removed the Foxytunes extension and I am running with just 4 themes. I have a crazy question here, but it is not addressed on the Forum. Didn't check your link, but I am sure it is the troubleshooting "hang" one I used (safe mode, etc). Mozilla Firefox shows up in TWO places on my C Drive. Well, THREE, counting Programs. And I can't help thinking that one of the two shouldn't be there. \ One is under Docs & settings/Heather/Application Data.....this one seems to be the active one, EXCEPT for one folder....the Cache Folder. This one has a *Cache.Trash* folder that never has anything in it. The second one it under Local Settings/Application Data and this one seems to be an old one, EXCEPT for 2 folders. All my cache junk goes in the folder aptly named *Cache*.....not *Cache.Trash*. The other active one is the Extensions Folder. Does any of the above make sense to you???? If you want to take this to private email, I think I sent you my new address at Rogers. If not, I will check and fire it off. I am sure something is wrong here. Cheers.....Heather "TomV" wrote in message ... Hi, Heather, How are you? You could try systematically removing extensions and themes to see if resolves the issue. I'd suggest starting with Foxytunes. If removing the extension solves the problem, you can then try reinstalling it using the latest version of the extension. I've not used Foxytunes, but I do use IEView. I've had no problems with the latest Firefox release both on WinME and XP. Here's a link (you may have seen this already) that walks you through troubleshooting "hanging" problems with FF. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_hangs Let me know how you fare. Cheers, Tom Heather wrote: "TomV" wrote in message ... I've always been a fan of good mysteries. That must be the draw. Perfect lead in......I have a problem with Firefox and have looked on the Forum and tried some of the troubleshooting things (safe mode, etc)....but it keeps hanging on me since that last update to 5.0.3. Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts? Would removing my 2 extensions and 4 themes perhaps help?? Just have IEView and Foxytunes. I would like to get it working properly before I set up the router again (groan!!). Cheers...Heather |
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Noel - CDRTC.DLL
Hun.....I am not Harry and I don't have a lot of junk on here. BUT, I
do happen to prefer Firefox over IE and want it back working properly again. I run a lean machine......other than a bunch of mp3's, LOL. I don't even have enough anti-malware on here according to some of the paranoid types I know. But I don't venture to places where it might be lurking.....and I don't get malware, period. I have been using IE6 and it is OK, but there are some things that Firefox just does better and it is not a virus magnet. Yet. Kissies from Canada....Heather "Mart" wrote in message ... Heather, being a 'simple soul' and unlike Harry, I try to keep to the bare minimum 'essentials' on my machines g I don't, and never have, used Firefox, I have always used IE which has never given me any particular hassle. ... Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts? What about just 'uninstalling' it only. And (re)learn to live with IE. It's not that bad. Fit for purpose! - a 'new' phrase going around the UK at present (or not!!) Bell's, Whistle's, who needs them? Self inflicted misery perhaps? Ah! but we're back to Harry's problems again. Mart "Heather" wrote in message ... "TomV" wrote in message ... I've always been a fan of good mysteries. That must be the draw. Perfect lead in......I have a problem with Firefox and have looked on the Forum and tried some of the troubleshooting things (safe mode, etc)....but it keeps hanging on me since that last update to 5.0.3. Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts? Would removing my 2 extensions and 4 themes perhaps help?? Just have IEView and Foxytunes. I would like to get it working properly before I set up the router again (groan!!). Cheers...Heather Mart wrote: LOL - But I suppose it does depend upon exactly which facet of his 'current issues' you wish to forensically debate. Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out. g Mart "TomV" wrote in message ... Hi, Mart, Thanks for the heads up. I recall the partitioning issue from many months ago. I didn't realize it was that long ago. It sounded in Harry's response though that he had entered the "partition zone" again. If so, it seemed that it might identify a potential cause of the current issue. I certainly don't want to revisit territory that's already been well charted. Tom Mart wrote: Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated space" is another V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling many News Group column inches, for which everyone and his dog has tried to get Harry to fix. Best left well alone g .. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands Couldn't possibly comment g Mart |
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