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Old February 14th 11, 12:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps

Hi,

I read the other post and replies regarding using FireFox 3.x with Win98
if Kernel Ex was used, but will this kernel extension also allow the use of
other incompatible (to Win98) applications such as Adobe Reader V9.x, etc.?

Thank You in Advance, John

PS, Remove "ine" from my email address


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Old February 14th 11, 03:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsme.general,alt.windows98
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Default Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps

wrote:

I read the other post and replies regarding using FireFox 3.x
with Win98 if Kernel Ex was used, but will this kernel extension
also allow the use of other incompatible (to Win98) applications
such as Adobe Reader V9.x, etc.?


Just to give you a complete answer, the win9x/me forum on msfn.org is
probably the best place on the internet where you can get comprehensive
support and information regarding windows 98 (and ME) along with
download links to constantly updated software resources like drivers and
yes, the KernelEx API compatibility layer. The website for that forum
is:

http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/8-windows-959898seme/

I might be the only person who reads and posts to that forum as well as
these win-98 newsgroups.

A specific sub-forum has been created for KernelEx, and it can be found
he

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/1309...elex-45-final/

It's part of a set of Windows 9x Member projects, which can be found
he

http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/91-w...mber-projects/

A list of important topics for win-9x/me can be found he

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/9581...8-seme-topics/

One of the more active members of the win-9x/me forums (Mdgx) has his
own website where he maintains a repository of various software updates,
ugrades, and enhancement (service) packs for win-9x/me. It can be found
he

http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/

To answer your question, yes, there is a lot of software that can run on
win-9x/me thanks to KernelEx that would normally require Windows 2000 or
above to run.

This specific thread was created just to talk about or list various
programs that are compatible with KernelEx:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/1204...lity-database/

There is not much mention of Acrobat reader. Most people are concerned
about browser compatibility (firefox 3.x and 4.x and Opera) and Adobe
flash player.

From what I can tell, Acrobat Reader 7 works with KernelEx, and Reader 9
might.

But to be honest, I have Reader 6 installed on my system, and I rarely
ever come across a PDF file that it can't open. Yes, you always have to
ignore the initial warning message when you open up most PDF files,
which I find always proves to be bogus. I believe there's a hack
somewhere that will remove the warning message from reader 6.
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Old February 15th 11, 08:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsme.general,alt.windows98
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps

Just a quickie: what are the _dis_advantages of having KernelEx?
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Old February 15th 11, 11:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsme.general,alt.windows98
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
news
Just a quickie: what are the _dis_advantages of having KernelEx?


LOOL
You going to make him look up info!

Disadvantages include:

Longer application start up time.
Applications must be verified when they are started to ensure they have been
compiled by the correct compiler,
or may need recompiling either from source code or from byte code.

Inflexible type systems.
On traditional systems, applications frequently perform operations that are
not type safe.
Such operations cannot be permitted in a language-based protection system,
which means that applications may need to be rewritten and may, in some
cases, lose performance.

Examples of systems with language-based protection include JX and
Microsoft's Singularity.

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Old February 15th 11, 02:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsme.general,alt.windows98
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Default Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps

Seems like a good idea, though, unfortunate about the list of
disadvantages!

Would you know if that might be the only way to workaround the installing
of [such apps as] Google Chrome to WinME ?

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Hot-text" wrote in message
...

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
news
Just a quickie: what are the _dis_advantages of having KernelEx?


LOOL
You going to make him look up info!

Disadvantages include:

Longer application start up time.
Applications must be verified when they are started to ensure they have
been compiled by the correct compiler,
or may need recompiling either from source code or from byte code.

Inflexible type systems.
On traditional systems, applications frequently perform operations that
are not type safe.
Such operations cannot be permitted in a language-based protection
system,
which means that applications may need to be rewritten and may, in some
cases, lose performance.

Examples of systems with language-based protection include JX and
Microsoft's Singularity.

--
http://hot-text.ath.cx


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Old February 15th 11, 02:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsme.general,alt.windows98
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Default Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps

Hot-text wrote:

Disadvantages include:


(horse-**** deleted)

Hmm. nothing left to quote.
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Old February 15th 11, 02:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsme.general,alt.windows98
98 Guy
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Default Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps

Tim Meddick used poor form by top-quoting:

Seems like a good idea, though, unfortunate about the list of
disadvantages!


Are you serious?

Did you actually believe what hot-**** wrote?
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Old February 15th 11, 02:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsme.general,alt.windows98
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Default Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

Just a quickie: what are the _dis_advantages of having KernelEx?


There are no real dis-advantages for having KernelEx.

Any existing legacy application that you have that you may think is
misbehaving because of the KernelEx hook into kernel32.dll, you can
selectively disable specific .exe, .dll, or any other code-based file by
bringing up the file's properties setting and there will be a kernelex
tab that will allow you to set a specific compatibility setting
(including disable KernelEx for that file).

KernelEx adds win-2k/XP API functions to your existing kernel32.dll by
hooking into it. Any software that does not call NT-specific API
functions from kernel32 will not invoke these additional functions.
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Old February 15th 11, 02:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsme.general,alt.windows98
Tim Meddick
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Default Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps

What sort of [response] question is that ?

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
Tim Meddick used poor form by top-quoting:

Seems like a good idea, though, unfortunate about the list of
disadvantages!


Are you serious?

Did you actually believe what hot-**** wrote?

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Old February 15th 11, 03:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsme.general,alt.windows98
98 Guy
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Default Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps

Tim Meddick used improper usenet form by top-posting:

Seems like a good idea, though, unfortunate about the list of
disadvantages!


Are you serious?

Did you actually believe what hot-**** wrote?


What sort of [response] question is that ?


Are you incapable of following a thread?

Gilliver asks what are the disadvantages of KernelEx.

Hot-dick responds by posting a response full of garbage.

You respond by saying "unfortunate about the list of disadvantages!"
which to me indicates that unless you were joking, you believed the
garbage posted by hot-dink. So I asked if you actually believed what
hot-fool wrote.

You come back and ask what sort of question is that.

So now you should know what sort of question it is.
 




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