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Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps
Hi,
I read the other post and replies regarding using FireFox 3.x with Win98 if Kernel Ex was used, but will this kernel extension also allow the use of other incompatible (to Win98) applications such as Adobe Reader V9.x, etc.? Thank You in Advance, John PS, Remove "ine" from my email address |
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Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps
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I read the other post and replies regarding using FireFox 3.x with Win98 if Kernel Ex was used, but will this kernel extension also allow the use of other incompatible (to Win98) applications such as Adobe Reader V9.x, etc.? Just to give you a complete answer, the win9x/me forum on msfn.org is probably the best place on the internet where you can get comprehensive support and information regarding windows 98 (and ME) along with download links to constantly updated software resources like drivers and yes, the KernelEx API compatibility layer. The website for that forum is: http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/8-windows-959898seme/ I might be the only person who reads and posts to that forum as well as these win-98 newsgroups. A specific sub-forum has been created for KernelEx, and it can be found he http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/1309...elex-45-final/ It's part of a set of Windows 9x Member projects, which can be found he http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/91-w...mber-projects/ A list of important topics for win-9x/me can be found he http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/9581...8-seme-topics/ One of the more active members of the win-9x/me forums (Mdgx) has his own website where he maintains a repository of various software updates, ugrades, and enhancement (service) packs for win-9x/me. It can be found he http://www.mdgx.com/9s2m/ To answer your question, yes, there is a lot of software that can run on win-9x/me thanks to KernelEx that would normally require Windows 2000 or above to run. This specific thread was created just to talk about or list various programs that are compatible with KernelEx: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/1204...lity-database/ There is not much mention of Acrobat reader. Most people are concerned about browser compatibility (firefox 3.x and 4.x and Opera) and Adobe flash player. From what I can tell, Acrobat Reader 7 works with KernelEx, and Reader 9 might. But to be honest, I have Reader 6 installed on my system, and I rarely ever come across a PDF file that it can't open. Yes, you always have to ignore the initial warning message when you open up most PDF files, which I find always proves to be bogus. I believe there's a hack somewhere that will remove the warning message from reader 6. |
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Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps
Just a quickie: what are the _dis_advantages of having KernelEx?
-- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf aibohphobia, n., The fear of palindromes. |
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Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message news Just a quickie: what are the _dis_advantages of having KernelEx? LOOL You going to make him look up info! Disadvantages include: Longer application start up time. Applications must be verified when they are started to ensure they have been compiled by the correct compiler, or may need recompiling either from source code or from byte code. Inflexible type systems. On traditional systems, applications frequently perform operations that are not type safe. Such operations cannot be permitted in a language-based protection system, which means that applications may need to be rewritten and may, in some cases, lose performance. Examples of systems with language-based protection include JX and Microsoft's Singularity. -- http://hot-text.ath.cx |
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Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps
Seems like a good idea, though, unfortunate about the list of
disadvantages! Would you know if that might be the only way to workaround the installing of [such apps as] Google Chrome to WinME ? == Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) "Hot-text" wrote in message ... "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message news Just a quickie: what are the _dis_advantages of having KernelEx? LOOL You going to make him look up info! Disadvantages include: Longer application start up time. Applications must be verified when they are started to ensure they have been compiled by the correct compiler, or may need recompiling either from source code or from byte code. Inflexible type systems. On traditional systems, applications frequently perform operations that are not type safe. Such operations cannot be permitted in a language-based protection system, which means that applications may need to be rewritten and may, in some cases, lose performance. Examples of systems with language-based protection include JX and Microsoft's Singularity. -- http://hot-text.ath.cx |
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Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps
Hot-text wrote:
Disadvantages include: (horse-**** deleted) Hmm. nothing left to quote. |
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Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps
Tim Meddick used poor form by top-quoting:
Seems like a good idea, though, unfortunate about the list of disadvantages! Are you serious? Did you actually believe what hot-**** wrote? |
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Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
Just a quickie: what are the _dis_advantages of having KernelEx? There are no real dis-advantages for having KernelEx. Any existing legacy application that you have that you may think is misbehaving because of the KernelEx hook into kernel32.dll, you can selectively disable specific .exe, .dll, or any other code-based file by bringing up the file's properties setting and there will be a kernelex tab that will allow you to set a specific compatibility setting (including disable KernelEx for that file). KernelEx adds win-2k/XP API functions to your existing kernel32.dll by hooking into it. Any software that does not call NT-specific API functions from kernel32 will not invoke these additional functions. |
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Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps
What sort of [response] question is that ?
== Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) "98 Guy" wrote in message ... Tim Meddick used poor form by top-quoting: Seems like a good idea, though, unfortunate about the list of disadvantages! Are you serious? Did you actually believe what hot-**** wrote? |
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Win98se "Upgrade" with Kernel Ex and Other Aps
Tim Meddick used improper usenet form by top-posting:
Seems like a good idea, though, unfortunate about the list of disadvantages! Are you serious? Did you actually believe what hot-**** wrote? What sort of [response] question is that ? Are you incapable of following a thread? Gilliver asks what are the disadvantages of KernelEx. Hot-dick responds by posting a response full of garbage. You respond by saying "unfortunate about the list of disadvantages!" which to me indicates that unless you were joking, you believed the garbage posted by hot-dink. So I asked if you actually believed what hot-fool wrote. You come back and ask what sort of question is that. So now you should know what sort of question it is. |
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