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Old December 10th 09, 03:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
98 Guy
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Default Windows Media Player 10 for Windows 98

Unofficial 98MP10 upgrades older Windows Media Player 9.0 (WMP9) files
to newer Windows Media Player 10.0 (WMP10)

98MP10 adds newer WMP10 XP + WMP9 XP SP3 functionality even if you do
NOT see 10.x.x.xxxx build whenever you run WMPLAYER.EXE or MPLAYER2.EXE
in the Help - About Windows Media Player dialog box.

WMP9 build/version does NOT change even after installing 98MP10, because
WMP9 specific core files (like WMP.DLL) canNOT and should NOT be
replaced. If you do replace any of them, WMP9 will lock up. Therefore
when installing any official/unofficial (security) patches/(hot)fixes,
you will be able, just as before, to install ONLY files created
specifically for WMP9 AND Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE/ME.

http://www.mdgx.com/98mp10/98mp10.php

98MP10 advantages + improvements:

- fixed most WMP9 bugs + security vulnerabilities
- better audio + video hardware rendering
- professional MP3 codec with variable bit rate encoding
- better/faster streaming over networks/internet
- updated DRM support (remove DRM functionality if desired)
- disable WMP Unique-ID (prevents Microsoft from identifying you)
- minor interface changes.
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Old December 10th 09, 06:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
MEB[_17_]
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Default Windows Media Player 10 for Windows 98

On 12/10/2009 09:01 AM, 98 Guy wrote:
Unofficial 98MP10 upgrades older Windows Media Player 9.0 (WMP9) files
to newer Windows Media Player 10.0 (WMP10)

98MP10 adds newer WMP10 XP + WMP9 XP SP3 functionality even if you do
NOT see 10.x.x.xxxx build whenever you run WMPLAYER.EXE or MPLAYER2.EXE
in the Help - About Windows Media Player dialog box.

WMP9 build/version does NOT change even after installing 98MP10, because
WMP9 specific core files (like WMP.DLL) canNOT and should NOT be
replaced. If you do replace any of them, WMP9 will lock up. Therefore
when installing any official/unofficial (security) patches/(hot)fixes,
you will be able, just as before, to install ONLY files created
specifically for WMP9 AND Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE/ME.

http://www.mdgx.com/98mp10/98mp10.php

98MP10 advantages + improvements:

- fixed most WMP9 bugs + security vulnerabilities
- better audio + video hardware rendering
- professional MP3 codec with variable bit rate encoding
- better/faster streaming over networks/internet
- updated DRM support (remove DRM functionality if desired)
- disable WMP Unique-ID (prevents Microsoft from identifying you)
- minor interface changes.


You know damn well these also subject the users to potential and
ongoing V10 vulnerabilities which are not protected via 9X capable AV
and other programs due to the differing operating environments and
expected respective activities.

Why don't you just keep this crap over on MSFN and the other sites and
forums that cater to this type of UNTESTED [other than installation]
modifications.

Don't bother pointing to the users of those modifications for supposed
"testing" as most of those {such as you} know only that the
modifications install.. {gees I hate to have to say that for
Axcel216/MGDx after all the good work done "during the day"}

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Old December 10th 09, 06:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
MEB[_17_]
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Default Windows Media Player 10 for Windows 98

On 12/10/2009 09:01 AM, 98 Guy wrote:
Unofficial 98MP10 upgrades older Windows Media Player 9.0 (WMP9) files
to newer Windows Media Player 10.0 (WMP10)

98MP10 adds newer WMP10 XP + WMP9 XP SP3 functionality even if you do
NOT see 10.x.x.xxxx build whenever you run WMPLAYER.EXE or MPLAYER2.EXE
in the Help - About Windows Media Player dialog box.

WMP9 build/version does NOT change even after installing 98MP10, because
WMP9 specific core files (like WMP.DLL) canNOT and should NOT be
replaced. If you do replace any of them, WMP9 will lock up. Therefore
when installing any official/unofficial (security) patches/(hot)fixes,
you will be able, just as before, to install ONLY files created
specifically for WMP9 AND Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE/ME.

http://www.mdgx.com/98mp10/98mp10.php

98MP10 advantages + improvements:

- fixed most WMP9 bugs + security vulnerabilities
- better audio + video hardware rendering
- professional MP3 codec with variable bit rate encoding
- better/faster streaming over networks/internet
- updated DRM support (remove DRM functionality if desired)
- disable WMP Unique-ID (prevents Microsoft from identifying you)
- minor interface changes.


You know damn well these also subject the users to potential and
ongoing V10 vulnerabilities which are not protected via 9X capable AV
and other programs due to the differing operating environments and
expected respective activities.

Why don't you just keep this crap over on MSFN and the other sites and
forums that cater to this type of UNTESTED [other than installation]
modifications.

Don't bother pointing to the users of those modifications for supposed
"testing" as most of those {such as you} know only that the
modifications install.. {gees I hate to have to say that for
Axcel216/MGDx after all the good work done "during the day"}

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Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
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Old December 11th 09, 03:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
someone watching
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Default Windows Media Player 10 for Windows 98

MEB, you sometimes answer posts with information which is helpful. BUT
the traffic cop approach (e.g. your response to 98Guy's post in this
thread) is just nauseating. It's been addressed before. Don't you have
anything better to do with your time than act as this groups traffic
cop?

We all know this NG addresses an 11 year old (read: ELEVEN YEAR OLD)
operating system, superceded by ME, W2K, XP, Vista, Win7. It is followed
by few people, many of whom (such as myself) *APPRECIATE* ANY WAY TO
CONTINUE USING W98 as technology RACES away!! GET IT? And don't you
think people using an operating system ELEVEN YEARS OLD have SOME
experience with operating systems and realize W98 is UNSUPPORTED and
subject to all kinds of malicious intrusion (BTW; as is *ANY* OS, READ
*ANY* , *ANY*, *ANY* OS), or do you think people are incapable of taking
care of these matters and NEED you acting as a trumpet and their
protector?

Come on, give us a break with that nonsense. I'd like to continue to see
you address posts in a helpful, not HATEFUL manner as is the case here.
Wouldn't you rather be though of as HELPFUL instead of your NOW
perceived participation as an irritant!

Thanks to 98Guy for keeping us updated with these mods to keep W98
going!

I for one don't always use them but keep information in the back of my
mind or even archive it for possible future use. And like MANY, I want
to keep W98 alive as long as possible (because I use it)!


  #5  
Old December 11th 09, 04:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
MEB[_17_]
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Default Windows Media Player 10 for Windows 98

On 12/10/2009 09:52 PM, someone watching wrote:
MEB, you sometimes answer posts with information which is helpful. BUT
the traffic cop approach (e.g. your response to 98Guy's post in this
thread) is just nauseating. It's been addressed before. Don't you have
anything better to do with your time than act as this groups traffic
cop?


Like I care what you think...


We all know this NG addresses an 11 year old (read: ELEVEN YEAR OLD)
operating system, superceded by ME, W2K, XP, Vista, Win7. It is followed
by few people, many of whom (such as myself) *APPRECIATE* ANY WAY TO
CONTINUE USING W98 as technology RACES away!! GET IT? And don't you
think people using an operating system ELEVEN YEARS OLD have SOME
experience with operating systems and realize W98 is UNSUPPORTED and
subject to all kinds of malicious intrusion (BTW; as is *ANY* OS, READ
*ANY* , *ANY*, *ANY* OS), or do you think people are incapable of taking
care of these matters and NEED you acting as a trumpet and their
protector?


Do YOU think YOU supply anything of value here...

These are DEFINITELY *not* the way to achieve longer use of the 9X OS.
What part instill NEW AND UNKNOWN vulnerabilities escapes your mental
faculties. Or is it you think that these provide fixes when they are NOT
designed for the 9X OS and the way IT functions, AND are completely
unknown to any available protections used with the 9X OS protection
applications. Perhaps its just that you don't think...


Come on, give us a break with that nonsense. I'd like to continue to see
you address posts in a helpful, not HATEFUL manner as is the case here.
Wouldn't you rather be though of as HELPFUL instead of your NOW
perceived participation as an irritant!


By whom, parties with your apparent intellectual capacity/// hahahaha.


Thanks to 98Guy for keeping us updated with these mods to keep W98
going!

I for one don't always use them but keep information in the back of my
mind or even archive it for possible future use. And like MANY, I want
to keep W98 alive as long as possible (because I use it)!



Well good luck, and WHY don't you provide some actual test results for
9X users, you know something useful... rather than spouting this garbage.

--
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Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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  #6  
Old December 11th 09, 04:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
someone watching
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Default Windows Media Player 10 for Windows 98

OK guys, after MEBs response to my post I had to do it, after probably
10 years of not having to block senders, I had to do it. So now it's
done. *ALL* MEBs posts are deleted from my system and will no longer
even see them on the system (hurray!).

Sorry MEB (for you), you are just acting too weird!
How old are you? Acting like a self-righteous juvenile, I hope you are
not an OLD man! GROW-UP!
___
"someone watching" wrote in message
...
MEB, you sometimes answer posts with information which is helpful. BUT
the traffic cop approach (e.g. your response to 98Guy's post in this
thread) is just nauseating. It's been addressed before. Don't you have
anything better to do with your time than act as this groups traffic
cop?

We all know this NG addresses an 11 year old (read: ELEVEN YEAR OLD)
operating system, superceded by ME, W2K, XP, Vista, Win7. It is

followed
by few people, many of whom (such as myself) *APPRECIATE* ANY WAY TO
CONTINUE USING W98 as technology RACES away!! GET IT? And don't you
think people using an operating system ELEVEN YEARS OLD have SOME
experience with operating systems and realize W98 is UNSUPPORTED and
subject to all kinds of malicious intrusion (BTW; as is *ANY* OS, READ
*ANY* , *ANY*, *ANY* OS), or do you think people are incapable of

taking
care of these matters and NEED you acting as a trumpet and their
protector?

Come on, give us a break with that nonsense. I'd like to continue to

see
you address posts in a helpful, not HATEFUL manner as is the case

here.
Wouldn't you rather be though of as HELPFUL instead of your NOW
perceived participation as an irritant!

Thanks to 98Guy for keeping us updated with these mods to keep W98
going!

I for one don't always use them but keep information in the back of my
mind or even archive it for possible future use. And like MANY, I want
to keep W98 alive as long as possible (because I use it)!




  #7  
Old December 11th 09, 05:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
MEB[_17_]
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Posts: 1,830
Default Windows Media Player 10 for Windows 98

On 12/10/2009 10:37 PM, someone watching wrote:
OK guys, after MEBs response to my post I had to do it, after probably
10 years of not having to block senders, I had to do it. So now it's
done. *ALL* MEBs posts are deleted from my system and will no longer
even see them on the system (hurray!).

Sorry MEB (for you), you are just acting too weird!
How old are you? Acting like a self-righteous juvenile, I hope you are
not an OLD man! GROW-UP!
___
"someone watching" wrote in message
...
MEB, you sometimes answer posts with information which is helpful. BUT
the traffic cop approach (e.g. your response to 98Guy's post in this
thread) is just nauseating. It's been addressed before. Don't you have
anything better to do with your time than act as this groups traffic
cop?

We all know this NG addresses an 11 year old (read: ELEVEN YEAR OLD)
operating system, superceded by ME, W2K, XP, Vista, Win7. It is

followed
by few people, many of whom (such as myself) *APPRECIATE* ANY WAY TO
CONTINUE USING W98 as technology RACES away!! GET IT? And don't you
think people using an operating system ELEVEN YEARS OLD have SOME
experience with operating systems and realize W98 is UNSUPPORTED and
subject to all kinds of malicious intrusion (BTW; as is *ANY* OS, READ
*ANY* , *ANY*, *ANY* OS), or do you think people are incapable of

taking
care of these matters and NEED you acting as a trumpet and their
protector?

Come on, give us a break with that nonsense. I'd like to continue to

see
you address posts in a helpful, not HATEFUL manner as is the case

here.
Wouldn't you rather be though of as HELPFUL instead of your NOW
perceived participation as an irritant!

Thanks to 98Guy for keeping us updated with these mods to keep W98
going!

I for one don't always use them but keep information in the back of my
mind or even archive it for possible future use. And like MANY, I want
to keep W98 alive as long as possible (because I use it)!





HEHEHEHE, so you won't see this then, too bad... those that do should
remember that most of the parties making non-standard installation
recommendations haven't used 9X for several years except MAYBE to play
around with occasionally. Many never use Windows at all...

These non-standard file installations are a bad idea, and DO introduce
unknowns {including files never found in 9X except for special needs}
into the stable environment left by EOL. IF you need a browser then find
one that provides the functionality and MORE that IE6 once provided
rather than non-tested files.

As for Media Player, there are numerous players available, many still
being created and updated, and supply 9X capability. The best thing per
Media Player is to BLOCK its access to the Internet altogether, and if
necessary, use something else, generally WITHOUT the DRM and massive
bloat. As for additional codex, there are some available to extend the
capabilities of Media Player....

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Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
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Old December 11th 09, 09:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Windows Media Player 10 for Windows 98

In message , MEB
writes:
On 12/10/2009 09:52 PM, someone watching wrote:
MEB, you sometimes answer posts with information which is helpful. BUT
the traffic cop approach (e.g. your response to 98Guy's post in this
thread) is just nauseating. It's been addressed before. Don't you have
anything better to do with your time than act as this groups traffic
cop?


Like I care what you think...

OK, he tried - as I did - to say that some of your posts are helpful. If
you don't care what _anybody_ thinks, fairy nuff.
[]
Do YOU think YOU supply anything of value here...


A post like his - like this one - is suggesting you consider withholding
your reflex (i. e. [knee-]jerk) reaction to any 98Guy post. If our
suggestions have no effect, i. e. you will continue to post one of your
templates (I see you have a new one - oh joy; at least it's shorter this
time) whenever 98G posts, then indeed we shouldn't bother. (Though I
hope I do occasionally post helpful answers to others - probably someone
watching does too.)

These are DEFINITELY *not* the way to achieve longer use of the 9X OS.


Perhaps you could say what _is_ - other than keeping it in aspic, virgin
and untouched? Thinking about it, I don't think I have ever seen YOU
post anything about any update, for any part of '98. Maybe you've never
found any that satisfy your rigorous testing requirements.

What part instill NEW AND UNKNOWN vulnerabilities escapes your mental
faculties. Or is it you think that these provide fixes when they are NOT
designed for the 9X OS and the way IT functions, AND are completely
unknown to any available protections used with the 9X OS protection
applications. Perhaps its just that you don't think...

Whisper this quietly: maybe they DO provide fixes (in the form of extra
functionality), but DO introduce new vulnerabilities at the same time!
[]
By whom, parties with your apparent intellectual capacity/// hahahaha.

Comments like that only serve to diminish what your i. c. looks like
(not to me - I assume you don't care what I think, like you don't
someone watching - I mean to the hypothetical innocent whom you appear
to be trying to protect).

Thanks to 98Guy for keeping us updated with these mods to keep W98
going!

I for one don't always use them but keep information in the back of my
mind or even archive it for possible future use. And like MANY, I want
to keep W98 alive as long as possible (because I use it)!

Similarly for me (though it's very much my second machines now).


Well good luck, and WHY don't you provide some actual test results for
9X users, you know something useful... rather than spouting this garbage.

For once I will refrain from saying why don't you provide some, because
as I say I can't remember - recently, anyway - you providing any details
of any updates at all.
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outdated thoughts on PCs. **

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  #9  
Old December 11th 09, 11:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
MEB[_17_]
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On 12/11/2009 03:34 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , MEB
writes:
On 12/10/2009 09:52 PM, someone watching wrote:
MEB, you sometimes answer posts with information which is helpful. BUT
the traffic cop approach (e.g. your response to 98Guy's post in this
thread) is just nauseating. It's been addressed before. Don't you have
anything better to do with your time than act as this groups traffic
cop?


Like I care what you think...

OK, he tried - as I did - to say that some of your posts are helpful. If
you don't care what _anybody_ thinks, fairy nuff.
[]
Do YOU think YOU supply anything of value here...


A post like his - like this one - is suggesting you consider withholding
your reflex (i. e. [knee-]jerk) reaction to any 98Guy post. If our
suggestions have no effect, i. e. you will continue to post one of your
templates (I see you have a new one - oh joy; at least it's shorter this
time) whenever 98G posts, then indeed we shouldn't bother. (Though I
hope I do occasionally post helpful answers to others - probably someone
watching does too.)

These are DEFINITELY *not* the way to achieve longer use of the 9X OS.


Perhaps you could say what _is_ - other than keeping it in aspic, virgin
and untouched? Thinking about it, I don't think I have ever seen YOU
post anything about any update, for any part of '98. Maybe you've never
found any that satisfy your rigorous testing requirements.


You're wasting my time...


What part instill NEW AND UNKNOWN vulnerabilities escapes your mental
faculties. Or is it you think that these provide fixes when they are NOT
designed for the 9X OS and the way IT functions, AND are completely
unknown to any available protections used with the 9X OS protection
applications. Perhaps its just that you don't think...

Whisper this quietly: maybe they DO provide fixes (in the form of extra
functionality), but DO introduce new vulnerabilities at the same time!


Okay, *YOU* provide the test results; SHOW 9X users they provide
functionality and no new vulnerabilities... give them something to
review so they can make an intelligent and informed decision...

[]
By whom, parties with your apparent intellectual capacity/// hahahaha.

Comments like that only serve to diminish what your i. c. looks like
(not to me - I assume you don't care what I think, like you don't
someone watching - I mean to the hypothetical innocent whom you appear
to be trying to protect).


You're right I don't care... I said that before... and you two are
hardly innocents..


Thanks to 98Guy for keeping us updated with these mods to keep W98
going!

I for one don't always use them but keep information in the back of my
mind or even archive it for possible future use. And like MANY, I want
to keep W98 alive as long as possible (because I use it)!

Similarly for me (though it's very much my second machines now).


Well good luck, and WHY don't you provide some actual test results for
9X users, you know something useful... rather than spouting this garbage.

For once I will refrain from saying why don't you provide some, because
as I say I can't remember - recently, anyway - you providing any details
of any updates at all.


BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE... 9X is EOL. It ended support life with a
finite set of vulnerabilities, change those and you have NO idea what
you do have.
You want fixes then do like you're SUPPOSED to do, search for
programmers providing ACTUAL DESIGNED FOR 9X applications... guess what,
there are some still doing so.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #10  
Old December 12th 09, 12:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,alt.windows98
Sunny[_2_]
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"MEB" wrote in message
...
snip
Okay, *YOU* provide the test results; SHOW 9X users they provide
functionality and no new vulnerabilities... give them something to
review so they can make an intelligent and informed decision...


Thankfully, you egotstical clown, you don't get to give orders to anyone.

You want fixes then do like you're SUPPOSED to do, search for
programmers providing ACTUAL DESIGNED FOR 9X applications... guess what,
there are some still doing so.


Yep, there are programmers out there, the same ones you knock for daring
to provide apps for "9X".
I still use Win98 and am thankful for the efforts of others to keep it
going, as distinct from your abusive "Know it All" crap.

If you had a real interest, you would test apps yourself, instead of
bleating about others achievements.
You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of
wallpaper.


 




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