JAVA 1.5 update 10 and ME

While I'm thinking about programs that won't run for me on ME...

A few weeks ago somebody mentioned that the Java site has a test to see if
you have the latest version. Back then I had update 6 and 9 was current. I
could never get update 9 to install. Now Java is up to update 10 and it
won't install, either. I tried uninstalling first and that didn't help. As
a matter of fact, once I uninstalled 1.5 update 6 all I could get to install
was 1.4 update 2.

The online installer just starts over again and again. "Refresh page"
"Enable cookies" (they are enabled)
The offline installers for update 6 and update 9 and update 10 just start
the hourglass cursor for a few seconds and never do anything at all.

From: "John"

| While I'm thinking about programs that won't run for me on ME...
|
| A few weeks ago somebody mentioned that the Java site has a test to see if
| you have the latest version. Back then I had update 6 and 9 was current. I
| could never get update 9 to install. Now Java is up to update 10 and it
| won't install, either. I tried uninstalling first and that didn't help. As
| a matter of fact, once I uninstalled 1.5 update 6 all I could get to install
| was 1.4 update 2.
|
| The online installer just starts over again and again. "Refresh page"
| "Enable cookies" (they are enabled)
| The offline installers for update 6 and update 9 and update 10 just start
| the hourglass cursor for a few seconds and never do anything at all.
|

You definitely do NOT want v4 update 2.
That version is has numerous vulnerabilities and is actively being exploited.

Don't use the "online" installer. Download the offline EXE file and install v6.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

The offline installers for update 6 and update 9 and update 10 just start
the hourglass cursor for a few seconds and never do anything at all.

Is there a trick to getting the latest to install? I get no error messages.


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "John"

| While I'm thinking about programs that won't run for me on ME...
|
| A few weeks ago somebody mentioned that the Java site has a test to see
if
| you have the latest version. Back then I had update 6 and 9 was
current. I
| could never get update 9 to install. Now Java is up to update 10 and it
| won't install, either. I tried uninstalling first and that didn't help.
As
| a matter of fact, once I uninstalled 1.5 update 6 all I could get to
install
| was 1.4 update 2.
|
| The online installer just starts over again and again. "Refresh page"
| "Enable cookies" (they are enabled)
| The offline installers for update 6 and update 9 and update 10 just
start
| the hourglass cursor for a few seconds and never do anything at all.
|

You definitely do NOT want v4 update 2.
That version is has numerous vulnerabilities and is actively being
exploited.

Don't use the "online" installer. Download the offline EXE file and
install v6.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

Check your screen when attempting to install Java 6 on Win Me, the first
thing that should catch your eye is the bold test that reads as follows:
"Warning: This is not a supported Operating System"
This is when installing from the downloaded module rather than using the
online installer.

Java 5.9 & 5.10 install and run on Win Me without problem. I'm unclear as
to why you are seeing an hourglass as the installer on my Win Me system
doesn't use an hour glass but rather a blue progress bar that proceeds
from left to right but this could be because I'm installing from the
downloaded module rather than installing online. The final "Finishing
installation" does seem to take a couple of minutes if not more to
complete so one has to be pretty patient.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows



John wrote:

The offline installers for update 6 and update 9 and update 10 just
start the hourglass cursor for a few seconds and never do anything at
all.

Is there a trick to getting the latest to install? I get no error
messages.

I uninstalled 1.4.2 since it is a security risk. I went back to the
archives and downloaded update 7 since 6 and 9 and 10 don't install. It
installs. The icon for -offline- installers for 6 and 9 and 10 is a Java
coffee cup. The icon for 7 is Install Shield. That makes a difference.
Install Shield works. Strange strange strange. But now I have a Java newer
than update 6 and I no longer have 1.4.2.



"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Check your screen when attempting to install Java 6 on Win Me, the first
thing that should catch your eye is the bold test that reads as follows:
"Warning: This is not a supported Operating System"
This is when installing from the downloaded module rather than using the
online installer.

Java 5.9 & 5.10 install and run on Win Me without problem. I'm unclear as
to why you are seeing an hourglass as the installer on my Win Me system
doesn't use an hour glass but rather a blue progress bar that proceeds
from left to right but this could be because I'm installing from the
downloaded module rather than installing online. The final "Finishing
installation" does seem to take a couple of minutes if not more to
complete so one has to be pretty patient.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows



John wrote:

The offline installers for update 6 and update 9 and update 10 just
start the hourglass cursor for a few seconds and never do anything at
all.

Is there a trick to getting the latest to install? I get no error
messages.

At the risk of repeating myself Java 5.9 and 5.10 both install without
problem on Win Me. If that isn't true of your system then look at your
system for possible conflicts and problems. The icon used by the
installer is immaterial but does indicate that the installer changed
however in the case of 5.9 & 5.10 this makes no difference to the ability
to install those versions on Win Me.
--
Mike Maltby



John wrote:

I uninstalled 1.4.2 since it is a security risk. I went back to the
archives and downloaded update 7 since 6 and 9 and 10 don't install.
It installs. The icon for -offline- installers for 6 and 9 and 10 is
a Java coffee cup. The icon for 7 is Install Shield. That makes a
difference. Install Shield works. Strange strange strange. But now
I have a Java newer than update 6 and I no longer have 1.4.2.

Thanks Mike. This could all be moot in a few minutes. My $40-at-Comp-USA
XP upgrade just now arrived in the mail. I just have to decide whether to
upgrade 98SE or ME. Both systems can handle it.

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
At the risk of repeating myself Java 5.9 and 5.10 both install without
problem on Win Me. If that isn't true of your system then look at your
system for possible conflicts and problems. The icon used by the
installer is immaterial but does indicate that the installer changed
however in the case of 5.9 & 5.10 this makes no difference to the ability
to install those versions on Win Me.
--
Mike Maltby



John wrote:

I uninstalled 1.4.2 since it is a security risk. I went back to the
archives and downloaded update 7 since 6 and 9 and 10 don't install.
It installs. The icon for -offline- installers for 6 and 9 and 10 is
a Java coffee cup. The icon for 7 is Install Shield. That makes a
difference. Install Shield works. Strange strange strange. But now
I have a Java newer than update 6 and I no longer have 1.4.2.

ALL versions of Sun java 1.5 have CRITICAL SECURITY issues up till
Update 10 : http://secunia.com/product/4621/?task=advisories

Just checked at Sun and it turns out ... Update 11 is now out.
So, I can't say if Update 10 is secure as Sun has a disturbing tendency
to sit on vulnerabilities and then release another Update without
explanation.

You need to check in Add/Remove Programs for the versions of the Sun JRE
that are installed. Then open the WINDOWS\TEMP folder
There will/may be installation folders for the various java packages
there. On my ME system the temp install folder was named _is1204
Most likely the naming convention will be similar, with different
numbers. Delete all of the temp install folders AFTER uninstalling any
JRE/J2SE listed in Add/Remove Programs.

Also, WINDOWS\Application Data will contain a randomly named folder that
contains the .msi for the java package. It/they will appear similar to
{7148F0A6-6813-11D6-A77B-00B0D0142020}
You could delete those folders also, if J2SE 1.5 Update 11 still will
not install.

Other than that, the only other hang up on getting it installed would be
a stuff up in WINDOWS\INF caused by 1,000's of 0 byte *OEM.inf files.

Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 Update 11
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index_jdk5.jsp


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



John wrote:

I uninstalled 1.4.2 since it is a security risk. I went back to the
archives and downloaded update 7 since 6 and 9 and 10 don't install. It
installs. The icon for -offline- installers for 6 and 9 and 10 is a Java
coffee cup. The icon for 7 is Install Shield. That makes a difference.
Install Shield works. Strange strange strange. But now I have a Java newer
than update 6 and I no longer have 1.4.2.



"Mike M" wrote in message
...

Check your screen when attempting to install Java 6 on Win Me, the first
thing that should catch your eye is the bold test that reads as follows:
"Warning: This is not a supported Operating System"
This is when installing from the downloaded module rather than using the
online installer.

Java 5.9 & 5.10 install and run on Win Me without problem. I'm unclear as
to why you are seeing an hourglass as the installer on my Win Me system
doesn't use an hour glass but rather a blue progress bar that proceeds
from left to right but this could be because I'm installing from the
downloaded module rather than installing online. The final "Finishing
installation" does seem to take a couple of minutes if not more to
complete so one has to be pretty patient.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows



John wrote:


The offline installers for update 6 and update 9 and update 10 just
start the hourglass cursor for a few seconds and never do anything at
all.

Is there a trick to getting the latest to install? I get no error
messages.

John:

FYI only I would like to add that I have ver. 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_09-b03)
installed and am encountering no problems.
I did install from the exe. file, but with internet connection.
Considering the extent of your problems, Mike's idea of possible corruption
in your file-system points in the right direction.
My preference for upgrade is WinME, but in light of your situation it may be
better to use Win98, if possible.

Harry.


"John" wrote in message
...
Thanks Mike. This could all be moot in a few minutes. My $40-at-Comp-USA
XP upgrade just now arrived in the mail. I just have to decide whether to
upgrade 98SE or ME. Both systems can handle it.

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
At the risk of repeating myself Java 5.9 and 5.10 both install without
problem on Win Me. If that isn't true of your system then look at your
system for possible conflicts and problems. The icon used by the
installer is immaterial but does indicate that the installer changed
however in the case of 5.9 & 5.10 this makes no difference to the
ability
to install those versions on Win Me.
--
Mike Maltby



John wrote:

I uninstalled 1.4.2 since it is a security risk. I went back to the
archives and downloaded update 7 since 6 and 9 and 10 don't install.
It installs. The icon for -offline- installers for 6 and 9 and 10 is
a Java coffee cup. The icon for 7 is Install Shield. That makes a
difference. Install Shield works. Strange strange strange. But now
I have a Java newer than update 6 and I no longer have 1.4.2.

From: "Mike M"

| Check your screen when attempting to install Java 6 on Win Me, the first
| thing that should catch your eye is the bold test that reads as follows:
| "Warning: This is not a supported Operating System"
| This is when installing from the downloaded module rather than using the
| online installer.
|
| Java 5.9 & 5.10 install and run on Win Me without problem. I'm unclear as
| to why you are seeing an hourglass as the installer on my Win Me system
| doesn't use an hour glass but rather a blue progress bar that proceeds
| from left to right but this could be because I'm installing from the
| downloaded module rather than installing online. The final "Finishing
| installation" does seem to take a couple of minutes if not more to
| complete so one has to be pretty patient.

I have JRE v6 running on my WinME PC under FireFox v2.x and IE6 SP1 w/o a problem.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm