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How can I get rid of 'Ramdrive' on startup disk?



 
 
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Old November 30th 06, 09:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general,microsoft.public.windowsme.new-user
Mart
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Default How can I get rid of 'Ramdrive' on startup disk?

I'm not sure that you understand the purpose and function of the Ramdrive
used by the WinMe Startup disk, nor do I understand quite why you think it
an irritation.

... I have never used it and I never will.


Oh yes you have and do! - every time you run and use the Startup disk!!

As the 1.4 Mb floppy Startup disk has only some 200kb or so of unused space
spare and it does not use (access) space on your hard drive - it may be
faulty, unformatted or not even installed! - it reserves some 4 Mb of your
RAM (32 Mb minimum requirement for WinMe!) as 'work-space' in which to
actually load and run any/all of the troubleshooting utilities supplied on
the Startup disk. Not too sure what you might be doing with the other
available 28 Mb of RAM whilst needing the Startup disk, so can't see why you
are irritated.

Although slightly out of context, see also the 2nd paragraph under 'More
Information' in :-
"Unable to Load Ramdrive.sys in Windows Millennium Edition"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278620/en-us

I tried editing out all references to ramdrive from the autoexec.bat
file but then it wouldnt boot.


Hardly surprising then!

Mart


"Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message
...
I would love to make a Millennium startup disk without the Ramdrive. This
is so irritating, I have never used it and I never will.

I tried editing out all references to ramdrive from the autoexec.bat
file but then it wouldnt boot.

Does anyone know how to get rid of Ramdrive from the startup disk
while keeping the boot disk functional?

Thank You

Keven Nielsen





  #2  
Old November 30th 06, 09:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general,microsoft.public.windowsme.new-user
Mart
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Default How can I get rid of 'Ramdrive' on startup disk? - PS

Oh! BTW - and the RAMDRIVE is only there (allocated) for the duration of the
use of the Startup disk. Next time you boot - it's gone!

Mart


  #3  
Old November 30th 06, 10:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general,microsoft.public.windowsme.new-user
Shane
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Default How can I get rid of 'Ramdrive' on startup disk?

Hi Mart.

Boy this one has put a smile on my face! Really, all that are left are the
loonies!

Shane

Mart wrote:
I'm not sure that you understand the purpose and function of the
Ramdrive used by the WinMe Startup disk, nor do I understand quite
why you think it an irritation.

... I have never used it and I never will.


Oh yes you have and do! - every time you run and use the Startup
disk!!
As the 1.4 Mb floppy Startup disk has only some 200kb or so of unused
space spare and it does not use (access) space on your hard drive -
it may be faulty, unformatted or not even installed! - it reserves
some 4 Mb of your RAM (32 Mb minimum requirement for WinMe!) as
'work-space' in which to actually load and run any/all of the
troubleshooting utilities supplied on the Startup disk. Not too sure
what you might be doing with the other available 28 Mb of RAM whilst
needing the Startup disk, so can't see why you are irritated.

Although slightly out of context, see also the 2nd paragraph under
'More Information' in :-
"Unable to Load Ramdrive.sys in Windows Millennium Edition"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278620/en-us

I tried editing out all references to ramdrive from the
autoexec.bat file but then it wouldnt boot.


Hardly surprising then!

Mart


"Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message
...
I would love to make a Millennium startup disk without the Ramdrive.
This is so irritating, I have never used it and I never will.

I tried editing out all references to ramdrive from the
autoexec.bat file but then it wouldnt boot.

Does anyone know how to get rid of Ramdrive from the startup disk
while keeping the boot disk functional?

Thank You

Keven Nielsen



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Old November 30th 06, 10:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general,microsoft.public.windowsme.new-user
Mike M
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Default How can I get rid of 'Ramdrive' on startup disk?

Oh yes you have and do! - every time you run and use the Startup
disk!!


Mart,

That's not strictly true if the poster chooses option 4 from the menu. No
RAMdrive and no tools. If however all the user wants is a basic bootable
disk then either Format a disk as a bootable disk or alternatively just
drag a copy of io.sys and command.com on to a clean formatted floppy.
Yes, the latter does work with the version of MS-DOS introduced with Win
Me. Of course if they want CD support they will have to add in the
necessary driver, config.sys, etc files.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart wrote:

I'm not sure that you understand the purpose and function of the
Ramdrive used by the WinMe Startup disk, nor do I understand quite
why you think it an irritation.

... I have never used it and I never will.


Oh yes you have and do! - every time you run and use the Startup
disk!!
As the 1.4 Mb floppy Startup disk has only some 200kb or so of unused
space spare and it does not use (access) space on your hard drive -
it may be faulty, unformatted or not even installed! - it reserves
some 4 Mb of your RAM (32 Mb minimum requirement for WinMe!) as
'work-space' in which to actually load and run any/all of the
troubleshooting utilities supplied on the Startup disk. Not too sure
what you might be doing with the other available 28 Mb of RAM whilst
needing the Startup disk, so can't see why you are irritated.

Although slightly out of context, see also the 2nd paragraph under
'More Information' in :-
"Unable to Load Ramdrive.sys in Windows Millennium Edition"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278620/en-us

I tried editing out all references to ramdrive from the
autoexec.bat file but then it wouldnt boot.


Hardly surprising then!


  #5  
Old November 30th 06, 10:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general,microsoft.public.windowsme.new-user
Shane
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Default How can I get rid of 'Ramdrive' on startup disk? - PS

Oh and BTW, notice his name is Kevin but he spells it Keven?


I tend to think of this kind of post as a spoof, but then I'm not especially
trusting.


Shane


Mart wrote:
Oh! BTW - and the RAMDRIVE is only there (allocated) for the duration
of the use of the Startup disk. Next time you boot - it's gone!

Mart



  #6  
Old November 30th 06, 11:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general,microsoft.public.windowsme.new-user
Mart
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Default How can I get rid of 'Ramdrive' on startup disk?

Fair comment Mike, but the OP did add :-

... how to get rid of Ramdrive from the startup
disk while keeping the boot disk functional?


Which I ASS-U-MEd to be at least almost *fully* functional. But as you
alluded, option 4 would relieve his 'irritation' g

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Oh yes you have and do! - every time you run and use the Startup
disk!!


Mart,

That's not strictly true if the poster chooses option 4 from the menu. No
RAMdrive and no tools. If however all the user wants is a basic bootable
disk then either Format a disk as a bootable disk or alternatively just
drag a copy of io.sys and command.com on to a clean formatted floppy. Yes,
the latter does work with the version of MS-DOS introduced with Win Me.
Of course if they want CD support they will have to add in the necessary
driver, config.sys, etc files.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart wrote:

I'm not sure that you understand the purpose and function of the
Ramdrive used by the WinMe Startup disk, nor do I understand quite
why you think it an irritation.

... I have never used it and I never will.


Oh yes you have and do! - every time you run and use the Startup
disk!!
As the 1.4 Mb floppy Startup disk has only some 200kb or so of unused
space spare and it does not use (access) space on your hard drive -
it may be faulty, unformatted or not even installed! - it reserves
some 4 Mb of your RAM (32 Mb minimum requirement for WinMe!) as
'work-space' in which to actually load and run any/all of the
troubleshooting utilities supplied on the Startup disk. Not too sure
what you might be doing with the other available 28 Mb of RAM whilst
needing the Startup disk, so can't see why you are irritated.

Although slightly out of context, see also the 2nd paragraph under
'More Information' in :-
"Unable to Load Ramdrive.sys in Windows Millennium Edition"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278620/en-us

I tried editing out all references to ramdrive from the
autoexec.bat file but then it wouldnt boot.


Hardly surprising then!




  #7  
Old December 1st 06, 02:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general,microsoft.public.windowsme.new-user
Kevin J. Nielsen
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Default How can I get rid of 'Ramdrive' on startup disk?

I have never used the floppy to run the troubleshooting tools. The only
time I use it is when I am trying to fdisk a drive just boot to DOS with a
CD rom. I have many other tools to use that I prefer over the WinMe startup
disk troubleshooting tools.

Keven


"Mart" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure that you understand the purpose and function of the Ramdrive
used by the WinMe Startup disk, nor do I understand quite why you think it
an irritation.

... I have never used it and I never will.


Oh yes you have and do! - every time you run and use the Startup disk!!

As the 1.4 Mb floppy Startup disk has only some 200kb or so of unused
space spare and it does not use (access) space on your hard drive - it may
be faulty, unformatted or not even installed! - it reserves some 4 Mb of
your RAM (32 Mb minimum requirement for WinMe!) as 'work-space' in which
to actually load and run any/all of the troubleshooting utilities supplied
on the Startup disk. Not too sure what you might be doing with the other
available 28 Mb of RAM whilst needing the Startup disk, so can't see why
you are irritated.

Although slightly out of context, see also the 2nd paragraph under 'More
Information' in :-
"Unable to Load Ramdrive.sys in Windows Millennium Edition"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278620/en-us

I tried editing out all references to ramdrive from the autoexec.bat
file but then it wouldnt boot.


Hardly surprising then!

Mart


"Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message
...
I would love to make a Millennium startup disk without the Ramdrive. This
is so irritating, I have never used it and I never will.

I tried editing out all references to ramdrive from the autoexec.bat
file but then it wouldnt boot.

Does anyone know how to get rid of Ramdrive from the startup disk
while keeping the boot disk functional?

Thank You

Keven Nielsen







  #8  
Old December 1st 06, 03:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general,microsoft.public.windowsme.new-user
Kevin J. Nielsen
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Posts: 17
Default How can I get rid of 'Ramdrive' on startup disk? - PS

I dont want it, I dont use it. I hate having needless crap on my computer.

Keven

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Oh! BTW - and the RAMDRIVE is only there (allocated) for the duration of
the use of the Startup disk. Next time you boot - it's gone!

Mart



  #9  
Old December 1st 06, 03:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general,microsoft.public.windowsme.new-user
Kevin J. Nielsen
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Posts: 17
Default How can I get rid of 'Ramdrive' on startup disk?

You guys are strange, you make such a big deal about meaningless stuff. Who
cares if my email is different from my name, who cares if I have my
preferences? Obviously I know I can boot without the ramdrive but I have to
give up my CD at the same time. But thanks for your heckles, I figured out
how to do it.

Obviously everyone in this newsgroup is too concerned with how different
other people are to actually answer a question. This is a newsgroup, not a
chat room, look it up and see the difference then go to a chat room instead.

Kevin


"Doc" ] wrote in message
...
"Mike M" wrote in
:

Oh yes you have and do! - every time you run and use the Startup
disk!!


Mart,

That's not strictly true if the poster chooses option 4 from the menu.
No RAMdrive and no tools.



And edit the [Menu] section of config.sys to make option 4 the default
option that is selected if no button is pressed.

menudefault=QUICK,10
for a 10 second time out.



  #10  
Old December 1st 06, 04:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general,microsoft.public.windowsme.new-user
Kevin J. Nielsen
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Posts: 17
Default How can I get rid of 'Ramdrive' on startup disk?

Mart, thank you for taking the time to explain to me what the ramdrive is
for, that is interesting. I also appreciated the link you sent, more
interesting information. I dont understand what my preference has to do with
my question; the question exists independently of my preference. If you must
know, I have never liked things that have no useful purpose. To me, Ramdrive
has no useful purpose; I have never used it and I will never have a use for
it. I have many other troubleshooting tools I prefer to use over the tools
on the startup disk. I only use the disk to boot to dos with cdrom support,
I have never had a reason to use the troubleshooting tools and if I did, I
wouldnt because I have other tools.

Keven


"Mart" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure that you understand the purpose and function of the Ramdrive
used by the WinMe Startup disk, nor do I understand quite why you think it
an irritation.

... I have never used it and I never will.


Oh yes you have and do! - every time you run and use the Startup disk!!

As the 1.4 Mb floppy Startup disk has only some 200kb or so of unused
space spare and it does not use (access) space on your hard drive - it may
be faulty, unformatted or not even installed! - it reserves some 4 Mb of
your RAM (32 Mb minimum requirement for WinMe!) as 'work-space' in which
to actually load and run any/all of the troubleshooting utilities supplied
on the Startup disk. Not too sure what you might be doing with the other
available 28 Mb of RAM whilst needing the Startup disk, so can't see why
you are irritated.

Although slightly out of context, see also the 2nd paragraph under 'More
Information' in :-
"Unable to Load Ramdrive.sys in Windows Millennium Edition"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278620/en-us

I tried editing out all references to ramdrive from the autoexec.bat
file but then it wouldnt boot.


Hardly surprising then!

Mart


"Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message
...
I would love to make a Millennium startup disk without the Ramdrive. This
is so irritating, I have never used it and I never will.

I tried editing out all references to ramdrive from the autoexec.bat
file but then it wouldnt boot.

Does anyone know how to get rid of Ramdrive from the startup disk
while keeping the boot disk functional?

Thank You

Keven Nielsen







 




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