Anybody recommend a digital camera for use with Win98?

Like the subject, anybody know a good camera that I can use with
Win98?

I've been using the Motorola RAZR phone which has terrible images,
requires WinXP [ptui, ptui, cusre be gone!]

Is alright to get by, but images are like 60k and more of a thumbnail
image than a real image.



I just bought a Vivitar 16Pixel ViviCam S524, which listed the system
requirements on the back of the envelope. They left out that you MUST
have internet connection to download a huge bulky bloated program,
Plus, and this is far more important, model is NOT listed in included
CD, call to Customer Service informs that software not available yet,
wait 2 weeks and come back to their website ??!!!

So, what I need is a camera with decent image capability, that I can
download images through the USB port, and be done with it. I don't
want to connect to their websites, I don't want to download a program
that will take 24 hours to download bia dial-up, I just want a !@#$!#
$@%^^ camera!

Robert Macy wrote:

Like the subject, anybody know a good camera that I can use with
Win98?

You should be more specific.

Do you mean web-cam? Hand-held still camera? Video Camera?

I just bought a Vivitar 16Pixel ViviCam S524,

I had a hard time finding any examples of that camera on the web. I
think you got the model number wrong. I found this:

http://www.biglots.com/p/d/electroni...digital-camera

which lists it as model VF524. I can't find any Vivitar camera on the
web being listed as model S524.

Regarding win-98 compatibility, is there anything more you want to do
with the camera via USB other than download the pictures from the
camera?

If that's all you want to do, then pull the SD-memory card from the
camera and insert it into an SD-card reader connected to (or installed
in) your win-98 computer. That's what I do with my cameras.

If you are dead set on connecting the camera to your win-98 computer via
USB, then I suggest installing the Maximus Decim universal USB driver:

=========================

Maximus Decim Native USB ver.3.6


* Native (without installation of additional drivers for each type)
support USB flash drives, digital photo and videocameras and other
similar devices.

* Universal Stack USB 2.0 (without installation of additional drivers
for each chipsets) with uninstall.

1. Remove ALL drivers USB flash drives.
2. Remove ALL drivers USB 2.0 controllers.
3. Remove ALL USB 1.1 and 2.0 controllers and devices.
4. Remove ALL unknown devices.
5. Install NUSB 3.6 and reboot.

6. After detection new USB 1.1 and 2.0 controllers (if it will occur)
too it is necessary to reboot.

Download he

https://rapidshare.com/files/99235514/nusb36e.exe

Or try this direct link:

http://rs130p2.rapidshare.com/cgi-bi...uth=0123456789

On 11/25/2012 11:32 AM, 98 Guy wrote:
Robert Macy wrote:

Like the subject, anybody know a good camera that I can use with
Win98?

You should be more specific.

X

portions snipped

If that's all you want to do, then pull the SD-memory card from the
camera and insert it into an SD-card reader connected to (or installed
in) your win-98 computer. That's what I do with my cameras.



Correct. There is no need at all to use the mfg's software.

The camera you have now should work just fine.

Just get a card reader


A good / free picture viewer (and editor) is Irfanview
which is a quick download

On Nov 25, 10:29*am, 98 Guy wrote:
Robert Macy wrote:
Like the subject, anybody know a good camera that I can use with
Win98?

You should be more specific.

Do you mean web-cam? *Hand-held still camera? *Video Camera?

I just bought a Vivitar 16Pixel ViviCam S524,

I had a hard time finding any examples of that camera on the web. *I
think you got the model number wrong. *I found this:

http://www.biglots.com/p/d/electroni...digital-camera

which lists it as model VF524. *I can't find any Vivitar camera on the
web being listed as model S524.

Regarding win-98 compatibility, is there anything more you want to do
with the camera via USB other than download the pictures from the
camera?

If that's all you want to do, then pull the SD-memory card from the
camera and insert it into an SD-card reader connected to (or installed
in) your win-98 computer. *That's what I do with my cameras.

If you are dead set on connecting the camera to your win-98 computer via
USB, then I suggest installing the Maximus Decim universal USB driver:

=========================

Maximus Decim Native USB ver.3.6

* Native (without installation of additional drivers for each type)
* support USB flash drives, digital photo and videocameras and other
* similar devices.

* Universal Stack USB 2.0 (without installation of additional drivers
* for each chipsets) with uninstall.

1. Remove ALL drivers USB flash drives.
2. Remove ALL drivers USB 2.0 controllers.
3. Remove ALL USB 1.1 and 2.0 controllers and devices.
4. Remove ALL unknown devices.
5. Install NUSB 3.6 and reboot.

6. After detection new USB 1.1 and 2.0 controllers (if it will occur)
* *too it is necessary to reboot.

Download he

https://rapidshare.com/files/99235514/nusb36e.exe

Or try this direct link:

http://rs130p2.rapidshare.com/cgi-bi...nload&fileid=9....

thanks for the reply AND the URLs AND the specific install
instructions.
first link didn't work, second worked well.
I had a copy of nusb33.exe so this must be a later version. However,
years ago I installed that Italian USB driver and been happy with it
ever since. so will leave in place, as in 'don't rock the boat', eh?

As I said this is a NEW model from Vivitar. not listed in the enclosed
CD, nor any software available from Vivitar [according to their
customer service] The unit looks identical to the ViviCam F524

I did try just attaching it to the WinXP [ptui, curse be gone!] and
found the image file right away, so I'll get an SD card and see what
happens with that. I haven't been brave enough to attach it to the
Win98 yet, but no real need.

The only thing I miss with the camera as any form of manual. I have NO
idea what most of thesettings are for. However, I did find 'silent'
mode and that was rewarding. Right now the memory is ony capable of
ONE picture about 156kB .jpg photo, but at least lets me know the set
up works.

On Nov 25, 11:59*am, philo* wrote:
On 11/25/2012 11:32 AM, 98 Guy wrote:

Robert Macy wrote:

Like the subject, anybody know a good camera that I can use with
Win98?

You should be more specific.

X

portions snipped

If that's all you want to do, then pull the SD-memory card from the
camera and insert it into an SD-card reader connected to (or installed
in) your win-98 computer. *That's what I do with my cameras.

Correct. There is no need at all to use the mfg's software.

The camera you have now should work just fine.

Just get a card reader

A good / free picture viewer (and editor) is Irfanview
which is a quick download

Card reader? Will try to find one.

I use Irfanview 4.25 and am VERY happy with it. Although slower on
image acquisition than the 3.??, I like the smoothing filter they
added so that a 'blown up' small picture [25kB] looks almost
acceptable at full screen..

Robert Macy wrote:

Just get a card reader

Card reader? Will try to find one.

You don't seem to understand that your camera (like many or ALL digital
cameras over the past 10 or 12 years) contain a removable memory card
where the pictures are stored.

These memory modules are known as "SD cards", and come in several
different formats - pictured he

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Cards.svg.png

Your camera would have come with such a memory card, but likely it was a
low-capacity card (perhaps 256 or 512 mb). Your camera can most likely
take a 32 or 64 gb SD-card - which I would advise you to obtain to
replace the existing card.

SD-card readers come in several different forms. The most minimal is
just an adapter that looks like a common USB thumb-drive with a slot on
the side to accept the SD-card:

http://gheymann.files.wordpress.com/...ard-reader.gif

Others are larger - the same size as a 3.5" floppy drive and designed to
fit into a floppy drive bay in a desktop computer:

http://www.laptopbatteryweb.com/images/EMBOX1.jpg

That picture shows one such card reader that also has adapters for SATA
hard drives.

NOTE THIS: The first version of these card readers are limited to a
maximum size 2-gb card. They are not capable of reading cards larger
than 2 gb. Many of these readers are still being sold in second-hand
thrift or surplus stores - and you do not want to buy one of those
regardless how cheap they are!

You want a card reader capable of reading cards 4gb and larger. A 4 gb
card is SMALL when used in a 16 mega-pixel camera.

And as we've been stressing here - there is really no need to try to
obtain or install software that allows you to directly connect the
camera to the computer. The most common method is to just pop out the
SD card from the camera and insert the card into a card reader.

On Nov 26, 10:38*am, 98 Guy wrote:
Robert Macy wrote:
Just get a card reader

Card reader? Will try to find one.

You don't seem to understand that your camera (like many or ALL digital
cameras over the past 10 or 12 years) contain a removable memory card
where the pictures are stored.

These memory modules are known as "SD cards", and come in several
different formats - pictured he

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...7/SD_Cards.svg...

Your camera would have come with such a memory card, but likely it was a
low-capacity card (perhaps 256 or 512 mb). *Your camera can most likely
take a 32 or 64 gb SD-card - which I would advise you to obtain to
replace the existing card.

SD-card readers come in several different forms. *The most minimal is
just an adapter that looks like a common USB thumb-drive with a slot on
the side to accept the SD-card:

http://gheymann.files.wordpress.com/...ard-reader.gif

Others are larger - the same size as a 3.5" floppy drive and designed to
fit into a floppy drive bay in a desktop computer:

http://www.laptopbatteryweb.com/images/EMBOX1.jpg

That picture shows one such card reader that also has adapters for SATA
hard drives.

NOTE THIS: *The first version of these card readers are limited to a
maximum size 2-gb card. *They are not capable of reading cards larger
than 2 gb. *Many of these readers are still being sold in second-hand
thrift or surplus stores - and you do not want to buy one of those
regardless how cheap they are!

You want a card reader capable of reading cards 4gb and larger. *A 4 gb
card is SMALL when used in a 16 mega-pixel camera.

And as we've been stressing here - there is really no need to try to
obtain or install software that allows you to directly connect the
camera to the computer. *The most common method is to just pop out the
SD card from the camera and insert the card into a card reader.

thanks for the details.

the camera had NO insertable card, but when connected to the USB on
either PC, show around 960kB available, yet one picture that is 156kB
makes the display say "Memory Full" and have not been able to increase
picture resolution from this demo setting, yet.

I can get access to the single photo, through the USB port.

Hope I can get access to the file structure of the card when it's
lugged in, that would solve a lot.

There is NO manual, not even an idea of how to attach the wrist strap!

Robert Macy unnecessarily full-quoted:

the camera had NO insertable card,

Either you don't know which cover, hatch or latch to remove to reveal
the SD-card slot, or your camera didn't even come with an SD-card
(either in the box or already inserted into the camera).

Trust me - you're camera is designed to use an SD-card to store the
images. Without it, it can only store ONE full-resolution image in it's
internal memory buffer.

There is NO manual, not even an idea of how to attach the wrist
strap!

Look here and tell us if this is what your camera looks like:

http://www.vivitar.com/products/1/di...0/vivicam-S524

This shows a Vivitar S-529 camera. It must be similar to yours.

Download the manual he

http://www.vivitar.com/files_product...era_Manual.pdf

Page 4 shows a picture of an SD-card being inserted into the card slot
located on the bottom of the camera (probably the same hatch where the
battery is located).

The manual says that an SD memory card is needed for normal use (just
like I already said above) - and that NO SD memory card is included
with the camera.

I wrote:

Download the manual he

http://www.vivitar.com/files_product...era_Manual.pdf

oops - try this:

http://www.vivitar.com/files_product...era_Manual.pdf

On Nov 26, 4:37*pm, 98 Guy wrote:
I wrote:
Download the manual he

http://www.vivitar.com/files_product..._Camera_Manual...

oops - try this:

http://www.vivitar.com/files_product..._Camera_Manual...

thanks for the URLs!

sadly, the S524 does NOT look like the S529, and the [empty] slot is
definitely on the SIDE, not the BOTTOM.

When I first got the CD, I plugged it in , and selected the model
ViviCam S529 [thinking that that sounded close] and a picture came up
too different, so went back and selected ViviCam F524, and that looks
identical. According to the info page the internal memory is supposed
to be huge, but not in the S524. I wonder if there is sound in the
S524, like there is in the S529?

Armed with your URL, I modified the end of the line to read, F524, but
the URL still took me straight to the S529 ?!

Plus, being out here in rural, using dial up, the site of course took
over 6 minutes to remove the 'blank' screen and show me that the image/
information is NOT what I wanted. .