891711/MS05-002 "fixed" update: *sigh*

Man, that is so sad.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Considering the fact that GeoDisk uses a few WindowsME files in a
non-supported manner, this can't really be considered a problem with
KB891711, at least not until some genius decompiles the whole thing and
figures out what's going on. Unfortunately, the author (MVP Emeritus
George Geyde) has been AWOL for nigh on a year, now. I seriously suspect
that he's met with an untimely demise and nobody in his "real world"
knew enough to (or how to) pass the news on to us. He was headed to sea,
last I heard, and he and I kept in pretty close touch up until that
time.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"bobster" wrote in message
...
The previous release of KB891711 caused a BSOD when I tried to run the
scandisk/defrag program, GEODisk2. The "new improved" version causes
the
same problem. I have tried it both with the old and new versions of
KB891711 checked and unchecked in MSconfig/startup and the BSOD always
occurs when it is checked and never occurs when it is unchecked.
Surprisingly, that was the only problem I had with the original
version of
KB891711 and it still seems to exist with the new version.

This is a minor annoyance as I only scandisk/defrag about once a week
and I
can uncheck KB891711 in MSconfig, reboot and GEODisk2 runs just fine.
I
post this just to point out that the new version doesn't fix all the
problems that the original caused.

Thanks PCR. This brought back memories of me acting in Shakespearean plays.

:-)

"PCR" wrote:

http://www.recmusic.org/lieder/get_t...l?TextId=14859
......Quote...........
Full fathom five thy father lies,
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
Nothing of him that doth fade,
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Sea-nymphs hourly ring his knell:
Ding-dong.
Hark! now I hear them, - ding-dong bell.

William Shakespeare (1564-1616)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| Considering the fact that GeoDisk uses a few WindowsME files in a
| non-supported manner, this can't really be considered a problem with
| KB891711, at least not until some genius decompiles the whole thing
and
| figures out what's going on. Unfortunately, the author (MVP Emeritus
| George Geyde) has been AWOL for nigh on a year, now. I seriously
suspect
| that he's met with an untimely demise and nobody in his "real world"
| knew enough to (or how to) pass the news on to us. He was headed to
sea,
| last I heard, and he and I kept in pretty close touch up until that
| time.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "bobster" wrote in message
| ...
| The previous release of KB891711 caused a BSOD when I tried to run
the
| scandisk/defrag program, GEODisk2. The "new improved" version
causes
| the
| same problem. I have tried it both with the old and new versions of
| KB891711 checked and unchecked in MSconfig/startup and the BSOD
always
| occurs when it is checked and never occurs when it is unchecked.
| Surprisingly, that was the only problem I had with the original
| version of
| KB891711 and it still seems to exist with the new version.
|
| This is a minor annoyance as I only scandisk/defrag about once a
week
| and I
| can uncheck KB891711 in MSconfig, reboot and GEODisk2 runs just
fine.
| I
| post this just to point out that the new version doesn't fix all the
| problems that the original caused.
|
|
|

Thanks PCR. This brought back memories of me acting in Shakespearean plays.

:-)

"PCR" wrote:

http://www.recmusic.org/lieder/get_t...l?TextId=14859
......Quote...........
Full fathom five thy father lies,
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
Nothing of him that doth fade,
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Sea-nymphs hourly ring his knell:
Ding-dong.
Hark! now I hear them, - ding-dong bell.

William Shakespeare (1564-1616)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| Considering the fact that GeoDisk uses a few WindowsME files in a
| non-supported manner, this can't really be considered a problem with
| KB891711, at least not until some genius decompiles the whole thing
and
| figures out what's going on. Unfortunately, the author (MVP Emeritus
| George Geyde) has been AWOL for nigh on a year, now. I seriously
suspect
| that he's met with an untimely demise and nobody in his "real world"
| knew enough to (or how to) pass the news on to us. He was headed to
sea,
| last I heard, and he and I kept in pretty close touch up until that
| time.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "bobster" wrote in message
| ...
| The previous release of KB891711 caused a BSOD when I tried to run
the
| scandisk/defrag program, GEODisk2. The "new improved" version
causes
| the
| same problem. I have tried it both with the old and new versions of
| KB891711 checked and unchecked in MSconfig/startup and the BSOD
always
| occurs when it is checked and never occurs when it is unchecked.
| Surprisingly, that was the only problem I had with the original
| version of
| KB891711 and it still seems to exist with the new version.
|
| This is a minor annoyance as I only scandisk/defrag about once a
week
| and I
| can uncheck KB891711 in MSconfig, reboot and GEODisk2 runs just
fine.
| I
| post this just to point out that the new version doesn't fix all the
| problems that the original caused.
|
|
|

I am glad to finally see PCR and Gary S. Terhune are on speaking terms again.

:-) Remember, I did indeed post under ArtWilder and it was wrong to lie and
I am sorry but I feared ID theft and now it has happened to me with the theft
of my social security card. I became what I was afraid of so from now on I
now to trust God and fear nothing.

"PCR" wrote:

Yea, Chauvin, I'll agree. Also, let us hope Terhune is not just being
his normal optimistic self, AND that he doesn't discover Dundat to be
inside the next earthquake he falls into!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| OK, but let's not bury him quite yet. Who knows, he might turn up next
| week with some *great* stories, g.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
| ...
| PCR wrote:
| Gibran's seems somewhat more "psychedelic" in nature than
| Shakespeare's,
| & more egocentric. However, I do suppose there is some truth in
it.
|
| Yeah, they were certainly different personalities, and one esoteric
| verses
| esoteric but in a different way, but each a master in their own
right.
| It's
| all good
|
| nite
|
| Rick
|
|
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

I am glad to finally see PCR and Gary S. Terhune are on speaking terms again.

:-) Remember, I did indeed post under ArtWilder and it was wrong to lie and
I am sorry but I feared ID theft and now it has happened to me with the theft
of my social security card. I became what I was afraid of so from now on I
now to trust God and fear nothing.

"PCR" wrote:

Yea, Chauvin, I'll agree. Also, let us hope Terhune is not just being
his normal optimistic self, AND that he doesn't discover Dundat to be
inside the next earthquake he falls into!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| OK, but let's not bury him quite yet. Who knows, he might turn up next
| week with some *great* stories, g.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
| ...
| PCR wrote:
| Gibran's seems somewhat more "psychedelic" in nature than
| Shakespeare's,
| & more egocentric. However, I do suppose there is some truth in
it.
|
| Yeah, they were certainly different personalities, and one esoteric
| verses
| esoteric but in a different way, but each a master in their own
right.
| It's
| all good
|
| nite
|
| Rick
|
|
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

You are just asking for problems with Norton for the most part in my opinion.

"Jukka Marttinen" wrote:

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Can you be more specific about the problems you had with the new version
of KB891711? Any error messages? If so, can you post the exact details
(even if in your native language?)

I let the Windows update reinstall KB891711 and now it seems to work.

Earlier i had problem with Ad-Aware SE software. After scanning my
laptop, i tried to fix the problems with Ad-aware, but i couldn't use
software with mouse. I couldn't even close the software. Seems that
problem was with mouse or display drivers (Silicon Motion Lynx3DM).

With Internet Explorer i had same problem. I couldn't close Iexplorer.

I tried to switch off the computer, but then came message that there is
application, which does not response. There wasn't name for that
application in error message window. I tried to close that application,
but Windows stopped to response. I had to use reset switch to close laptop.

Then I used "add/remove software's" function in Control Panel to remove
the update. After that i removed KB891711 folder in the Windows/system
folder.

After reinstalling the update, it seems to work fine. I have to use my
laptop some time and check, if this same problem comes back.



Also, if you can spare the time, can you reinstall the update and then
use MSCONFIG to see what other background programs, if any, might be
interacting with KB891711 to cause these problems? This is done by
disabling all background apps *except* KB891711, then restarting to see
if the problems persist. If not, you then re-enable items, testing with
each new addition, until you find the one or more items that are prompt
the problems.

Are you using ZoneAlarm? Or ETrust EZ Firewall (or EZ Armor)?

I don't have Zone Alarm. There is some other applications running
background. (Including Norman anti virus software.) I will try to switch
off the other applications, if i still have this problem and check if it
helps.

Any further, detailed information you can provide would be greatly
appreciated.


If i have more information about that, i let you know.

You are just asking for problems with Norton for the most part in my opinion.

"Jukka Marttinen" wrote:

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Can you be more specific about the problems you had with the new version
of KB891711? Any error messages? If so, can you post the exact details
(even if in your native language?)

I let the Windows update reinstall KB891711 and now it seems to work.

Earlier i had problem with Ad-Aware SE software. After scanning my
laptop, i tried to fix the problems with Ad-aware, but i couldn't use
software with mouse. I couldn't even close the software. Seems that
problem was with mouse or display drivers (Silicon Motion Lynx3DM).

With Internet Explorer i had same problem. I couldn't close Iexplorer.

I tried to switch off the computer, but then came message that there is
application, which does not response. There wasn't name for that
application in error message window. I tried to close that application,
but Windows stopped to response. I had to use reset switch to close laptop.

Then I used "add/remove software's" function in Control Panel to remove
the update. After that i removed KB891711 folder in the Windows/system
folder.

After reinstalling the update, it seems to work fine. I have to use my
laptop some time and check, if this same problem comes back.



Also, if you can spare the time, can you reinstall the update and then
use MSCONFIG to see what other background programs, if any, might be
interacting with KB891711 to cause these problems? This is done by
disabling all background apps *except* KB891711, then restarting to see
if the problems persist. If not, you then re-enable items, testing with
each new addition, until you find the one or more items that are prompt
the problems.

Are you using ZoneAlarm? Or ETrust EZ Firewall (or EZ Armor)?

I don't have Zone Alarm. There is some other applications running
background. (Including Norman anti virus software.) I will try to switch
off the other applications, if i still have this problem and check if it
helps.

Any further, detailed information you can provide would be greatly
appreciated.


If i have more information about that, i let you know.

OK, then.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Dan" wrote in message
...
| I am glad to finally see PCR and Gary S. Terhune are on speaking terms
again.
|
| :-) Remember, I did indeed post under ArtWilder and it was wrong to
lie and
| I am sorry but I feared ID theft and now it has happened to me with
the theft
| of my social security card. I became what I was afraid of so from now
on I
| now to trust God and fear nothing.
|
| "PCR" wrote:
....snip

OK, then.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Dan" wrote in message
...
| I am glad to finally see PCR and Gary S. Terhune are on speaking terms
again.
|
| :-) Remember, I did indeed post under ArtWilder and it was wrong to
lie and
| I am sorry but I feared ID theft and now it has happened to me with
the theft
| of my social security card. I became what I was afraid of so from now
on I
| now to trust God and fear nothing.
|
| "PCR" wrote:
....snip

You are welcome.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Dan" wrote in message
news | Thanks PCR. This brought back memories of me acting in Shakespearean
plays.
|
| :-)
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| http://www.recmusic.org/lieder/get_t...l?TextId=14859
| ......Quote...........
| Full fathom five thy father lies,
| Of his bones are coral made;
| Those are pearls that were his eyes:
| Nothing of him that doth fade,
| But doth suffer a sea-change
| Into something rich and strange.
| Sea-nymphs hourly ring his knell:
| Ding-dong.
| Hark! now I hear them, - ding-dong bell.
|
| William Shakespeare (1564-1616)
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
....snip