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Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities
"MEB" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2010 09:42 PM, MEB wrote: On 05/05/2010 07:49 PM, Sunny wrote: "MEB" wrote in message ... snip NNTP servers/services continue]. You seem to forget there are "controlling" groups for/over all of the "Internet", and without the MAJOR servers, major corporations and their OWNED lines and routing servers/services, *Usenet* isn't going very far should support be dropped. There is no such thing as a "MAJOR servers", and the disappearance of the Microsoft servers will not affect Usenet one iota. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, ermmmm, uh, hhahhahaahehhehehahahaahhahahaaeeee snicker,,, sniff,,,, uhh, cough, rbrbrbrrrrraaaaaaaaaawwwwwwaaaaa ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaheeeeee, teetaaaaa heheheehawwwwaaaa Laugh this off, you clown : The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers that are accessed by client news readers. At regular intervals, each news server connects to its partner news servers, compares newsgroup databases, and exchanges any messages the other server doesn't already have. A message posted to a single news server is therefore quickly propagated completely around the Usenet in a very short time, typically within a few minutes. Like the Internet, the Usenet's distributed architecture isn't dependent on any central administrative control, making it particularly robust because it doesn't have a single point of failure. The entire network of interconnected Usenet news servers is so large that the loss of individual news servers does not significantly affect it. http://usenetstats.com/ |
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Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities
Sunny The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers COPY CATS of the MAJOR
servers ! "Sunny" wrote in message ... "MEB" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2010 09:42 PM, MEB wrote: On 05/05/2010 07:49 PM, Sunny wrote: "MEB" wrote in message ... snip NNTP servers/services continue]. You seem to forget there are "controlling" groups for/over all of the "Internet", and without the MAJOR servers, major corporations and their OWNED lines and routing servers/services, *Usenet* isn't going very far should support be dropped. There is no such thing as a "MAJOR servers", and the disappearance of the Microsoft servers will not affect Usenet one iota. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, ermmmm, uh, hhahhahaahehhehehahahaahhahahaaeeee snicker,,, sniff,,,, uhh, cough, rbrbrbrrrrraaaaaaaaaawwwwwwaaaaa ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaheeeeee, teetaaaaa heheheehawwwwaaaa Laugh this off, you clown : The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers that are accessed by client news readers. At regular intervals, each news server connects to its partner news servers, compares newsgroup databases, and exchanges any messages the other server doesn't already have. A message posted to a single news server is therefore quickly propagated completely around the Usenet in a very short time, typically within a few minutes. Like the Internet, the Usenet's distributed architecture isn't dependent on any central administrative control, making it particularly robust because it doesn't have a single point of failure. The entire network of interconnected Usenet news servers is so large that the loss of individual news servers does not significantly affect it. http://usenetstats.com/ |
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Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities
Sunny The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers COPY CATS of the MAJOR servers ! "Sunny" wrote in message ... "MEB" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2010 09:42 PM, MEB wrote: On 05/05/2010 07:49 PM, Sunny wrote: "MEB" wrote in message ... snip NNTP servers/services continue]. You seem to forget there are "controlling" groups for/over all of the "Internet", and without the MAJOR servers, major corporations and their OWNED lines and routing servers/services, *Usenet* isn't going very far should support be dropped. There is no such thing as a "MAJOR servers", and the disappearance of the Microsoft servers will not affect Usenet one iota. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, ermmmm, uh, hhahhahaahehhehehahahaahhahahaaeeee snicker,,, sniff,,,, uhh, cough, rbrbrbrrrrraaaaaaaaaawwwwwwaaaaa ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaheeeeee, teetaaaaa heheheehawwwwaaaa Laugh this off, you clown : The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers that are accessed by client news readers. At regular intervals, each news server connects to its partner news servers, compares newsgroup databases, and exchanges any messages the other server doesn't already have. A message posted to a single news server is therefore quickly propagated completely around the Usenet in a very short time, typically within a few minutes. Like the Internet, the Usenet's distributed architecture isn't dependent on any central administrative control, making it particularly robust because it doesn't have a single point of failure. The entire network of interconnected Usenet news servers is so large that the loss of individual news servers does not significantly affect it. http://usenetstats.com/ |
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Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities
On 05/06/2010 02:33 AM, Sunny wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2010 09:42 PM, MEB wrote: On 05/05/2010 07:49 PM, Sunny wrote: "MEB" wrote in message ... snip NNTP servers/services continue]. You seem to forget there are "controlling" groups for/over all of the "Internet", and without the MAJOR servers, major corporations and their OWNED lines and routing servers/services, *Usenet* isn't going very far should support be dropped. There is no such thing as a "MAJOR servers", and the disappearance of the Microsoft servers will not affect Usenet one iota. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, ermmmm, uh, hhahhahaahehhehehahahaahhahahaaeeee snicker,,, sniff,,,, uhh, cough, rbrbrbrrrrraaaaaaaaaawwwwwwaaaaa ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaheeeeee, teetaaaaa heheheehawwwwaaaa Laugh this off, you clown : The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers that are accessed by client news readers. At regular intervals, each news server connects to its partner news servers, compares newsgroup databases, and exchanges any messages the other server doesn't already have. A message posted to a single news server is therefore quickly propagated completely around the Usenet in a very short time, typically within a few minutes. Like the Internet, the Usenet's distributed architecture isn't dependent on any central administrative control, making it particularly robust because it doesn't have a single point of failure. The entire network of interconnected Usenet news servers is so large that the loss of individual news servers does not significantly affect it. http://usenetstats.com/ You people REALLY don't have a clue... Here, maybe you missed this and its import since I didn't feel it necessary to point out what this meant, I'll explain it to you AFTER you read about it if you have any questions THEN. Make it quick, this will end here shortly and I certainly am not worry about it if you don't. In the other present discussion regarding this closing, Pa Bear posted some information: -QUOTE- MEB wrote: snip So are we to take the nntp@ message as Notice for this group in particular? is a Microsoft posting alias (and you'll see that the posting IP points to Redmond). The same message was posted (and double-posted, in many cases) in all MS newsgroups. (Google Groups has removed all of the original posts, and many of the ensuing threads, from its archive, BTW.) The fact that it took 5-6 hours for the posts to propagate to all slave newsservers (i.e., show up) is especially bittersweet. eg -END QUOTE- Let deal with one relevant part, we'll leave the Google Groups removal unaddressed. So it took some 5-6 hours for these nntp Microsoft postings to propagate across the world, what does that show/mean? For a start, it wasn't instantaneous or even close, like when you access a web page. That means the major servers/services are forcing Usenet to use secondary host/servers [secondary links] OFF the main backbone, and/or "public" NNTP "priority" is pretty dismal now. It also appears to indicate that Usenet "services" [where you actually connect through] aren't updated as often, aren't finding as many "NNTP hosts", "forwarders", and "routers", and a couple other indications. Usenutters in particular, and others that actually want to know HOW this all works, need to start with these basic search queries and actually READ the materials [a couple times]. I expect most of you won't be able to comprehend the full impact, much less how it affects EVERYTHING done on the Internet, but at least it will kill Usenutters' abilities to spout their ignorant nonsense, and allow and provide information to others to perhaps "re-think" your ideas. http://www.google.com/search?q=Inter...raphy&ie=utf-8 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ing+topography http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+routing http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Usenet+hosting http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+protocols http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+standards http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+backbone Don't stop with these, continue on into the deeper workings all of this... and don't stop when you just find something that seems to support "your" ideas, because they are likely wrong and that supposed "material" may be as wrong as you are because it failed to address EVERY ASPECT now occurring. Any ignoramus can post materials and/or put up sites and materials which purports to show how their segment "supposedly" works *WITHIN* this Internet, however, unless these deal with ALL FACTS of the Internet from the originating "source" [and owner], to the "privately owned backbone" to when *you* as a user finally get access to it, *and ALL aspects during that data exchange*, its just moronic garbage, or overly simplified, or even old outdated material. I'm also going to suggest again that Usenetters need to seriously consider cleaning up your "end", or you may not have an "end" anymore nor support. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |
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Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities
On 05/06/2010 02:33 AM, Sunny wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2010 09:42 PM, MEB wrote: On 05/05/2010 07:49 PM, Sunny wrote: "MEB" wrote in message ... snip NNTP servers/services continue]. You seem to forget there are "controlling" groups for/over all of the "Internet", and without the MAJOR servers, major corporations and their OWNED lines and routing servers/services, *Usenet* isn't going very far should support be dropped. There is no such thing as a "MAJOR servers", and the disappearance of the Microsoft servers will not affect Usenet one iota. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,, ermmmm, uh, hhahhahaahehhehehahahaahhahahaaeeee snicker,,, sniff,,,, uhh, cough, rbrbrbrrrrraaaaaaaaaawwwwwwaaaaa ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaheeeeee, teetaaaaa heheheehawwwwaaaa Laugh this off, you clown : The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers that are accessed by client news readers. At regular intervals, each news server connects to its partner news servers, compares newsgroup databases, and exchanges any messages the other server doesn't already have. A message posted to a single news server is therefore quickly propagated completely around the Usenet in a very short time, typically within a few minutes. Like the Internet, the Usenet's distributed architecture isn't dependent on any central administrative control, making it particularly robust because it doesn't have a single point of failure. The entire network of interconnected Usenet news servers is so large that the loss of individual news servers does not significantly affect it. http://usenetstats.com/ You people REALLY don't have a clue... Here, maybe you missed this and its import since I didn't feel it necessary to point out what this meant, I'll explain it to you AFTER you read about it if you have any questions THEN. Make it quick, this will end here shortly and I certainly am not worry about it if you don't. In the other present discussion regarding this closing, Pa Bear posted some information: -QUOTE- MEB wrote: snip So are we to take the nntp@ message as Notice for this group in particular? is a Microsoft posting alias (and you'll see that the posting IP points to Redmond). The same message was posted (and double-posted, in many cases) in all MS newsgroups. (Google Groups has removed all of the original posts, and many of the ensuing threads, from its archive, BTW.) The fact that it took 5-6 hours for the posts to propagate to all slave newsservers (i.e., show up) is especially bittersweet. eg -END QUOTE- Let deal with one relevant part, we'll leave the Google Groups removal unaddressed. So it took some 5-6 hours for these nntp Microsoft postings to propagate across the world, what does that show/mean? For a start, it wasn't instantaneous or even close, like when you access a web page. That means the major servers/services are forcing Usenet to use secondary host/servers [secondary links] OFF the main backbone, and/or "public" NNTP "priority" is pretty dismal now. It also appears to indicate that Usenet "services" [where you actually connect through] aren't updated as often, aren't finding as many "NNTP hosts", "forwarders", and "routers", and a couple other indications. Usenutters in particular, and others that actually want to know HOW this all works, need to start with these basic search queries and actually READ the materials [a couple times]. I expect most of you won't be able to comprehend the full impact, much less how it affects EVERYTHING done on the Internet, but at least it will kill Usenutters' abilities to spout their ignorant nonsense, and allow and provide information to others to perhaps "re-think" your ideas. http://www.google.com/search?q=Inter...raphy&ie=utf-8 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ing+topography http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+routing http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Usenet+hosting http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+protocols http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+standards http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Internet+backbone Don't stop with these, continue on into the deeper workings all of this... and don't stop when you just find something that seems to support "your" ideas, because they are likely wrong and that supposed "material" may be as wrong as you are because it failed to address EVERY ASPECT now occurring. Any ignoramus can post materials and/or put up sites and materials which purports to show how their segment "supposedly" works *WITHIN* this Internet, however, unless these deal with ALL FACTS of the Internet from the originating "source" [and owner], to the "privately owned backbone" to when *you* as a user finally get access to it, *and ALL aspects during that data exchange*, its just moronic garbage, or overly simplified, or even old outdated material. I'm also going to suggest again that Usenetters need to seriously consider cleaning up your "end", or you may not have an "end" anymore nor support. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |
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Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities
"MEB" wrote in message ... I'm also going to suggest again that Usenetters need to seriously consider cleaning up your "end", or you may not have an "end" anymore nor support. What has Google got to do with Usenet? (Except as a poor web based method of posting to Usenet servers.) BTW, it only takes 5 minutes for any posts through any of the four NNTP Servers, that I use. for them to appear on MS server. |
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Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities
"MEB" wrote in message ... I'm also going to suggest again that Usenetters need to seriously consider cleaning up your "end", or you may not have an "end" anymore nor support. What has Google got to do with Usenet? (Except as a poor web based method of posting to Usenet servers.) BTW, it only takes 5 minutes for any posts through any of the four NNTP Servers, that I use. for them to appear on MS server. |
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Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities
"Hot-text" wrote in message ... Sunny The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers COPY CATS of the MAJOR servers ! Bull****, no one server runs Usenet. Name your "Major Servers" |
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Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities
"Hot-text" wrote in message ... Sunny The Usenet is run by thousands of news servers COPY CATS of the MAJOR servers ! Bull****, no one server runs Usenet. Name your "Major Servers" |
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Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Online Communities
On 05/06/2010 06:59 PM, Sunny wrote:
"MEB" wrote in message ... I'm also going to suggest again that Usenetters need to seriously consider cleaning up your "end", or you may not have an "end" anymore nor support. What has Google got to do with Usenet? (Except as a poor web based method of posting to Usenet servers.) I left Google "unaddressed" for a reason. Unless you understand the Internet AND Usenet and networking, discussing the Google interior is impossible to understand. That you even posted your question shows you have no comprehension of anything involved. BTW, it only takes 5 minutes for any posts through any of the four NNTP Servers, that I use. for them to appear on MS server. I see, per usual, you have zero to add, didn't bother to read any information, and instead just post more mindless junk... it means ZERO how long it took for your posts to appear save for those Usenet "services" *place* in the chain. A major portion of that chain is being removed and it ISN'T just access to or these groups. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |
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