system restore not..

no. i am not running norton. it was removed months ago.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

(that's the way it *should* be!!)

10,000 -odd files?
are you running Norton Software of any kind?



--
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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i also noted that in system restore the past 7-8 days each date was in
bold
#'s. i found that unusual.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System Properties|Performance|File
System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set to view
Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
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"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system restore.
That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help, System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down before
it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

Shane, I have to ask why you've got to ask why Harry feels a need to ask ???

ct


Shane wrote:
Harry,

I've got to ask: why do you feel a need to delete a 211KB file?

Basically, they're not duplicates. One is the copy of the updated file - the
backup. The other is the original version, in it's .cab file. You mustn't
start trying to delete files from within the cabs.


Shane


"webster72n" wrote in message
...

Noel:
If I may, I have three of these files (smgr.dll) present, one system and
two options files, all the same with 211 KB's.
Is it ok to delete one of the options files, since they seem to be
duplicates?
The version is up-to-date.

Harry.

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...


It's possible that you haven't installed the System Restore Patch -

without

which any current restore points are just space fillers.
To check this, look for the file C:\Windows\System\SMGR.DLL - r-click on

the

file, and select Properties.
What's the version number? - if it's v4.90.0.3003 then you have installed
the patch, and we have to look elsewhere for the problem
if it's v4.90.0.2533, then you need to install the patch.

To install the patch, either visit Windows Update, or go here, and

download

the patch for offline install
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q290700
Run the installer, and windows should reset System Restore at the same

time,

clearing your old restore points (which wouldn't have worked, anyhow),
and
creating a single new one.
You should then reset the maximum allocation for SR by going to the
adjustment slider at System Properties | Performance | File System | Hard
Disk - most people find that 200-400MB is quite sufficient for most
purposes, unless installing/uninstalling large applications such as

Office.


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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...

i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down before
it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

ctowers wrote:

Shane, I have to ask why you've got to ask why Harry feels a need to
ask ???

Possibly because the reason for the multiple copies of this file and their
purpose is regularly posted in these newsgroups and Harry has been
participating in this newsgroup for quite some time.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP

Sounds like your SR archive is hosed - the actual space used is greater than
the allocation.
This is often caused by attempting to reset System Restore without rebooting
IMMEDIATELY after checking/unchecking the disable option.

You'll have to do a proper reset of SR -
To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore slider
to your preferred setting.

Most people find that a setting of 200-300MB is sufficient to hold 10-15
days worth of restore points, unless you are doing a lot of
installs/uninstalls, or installing large applications (such as Office).



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
no. i am not running norton. it was removed months ago.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

(that's the way it *should* be!!)

10,000 -odd files?
are you running Norton Software of any kind?



--
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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i also noted that in system restore the past 7-8 days each date was in
bold
#'s. i found that unusual.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System Properties|Performance|File
System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set to view
Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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NG's

"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system restore.
That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help, System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down
before
it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

there was no prior attempt on my part to reset sr, which would have required
rebooting immediately ..as you pointed out.
as i pointed the sr bar did not complete before it automatically rebooted
itself.
i followed your directions as posted. on the last part setting the slider it
was either 200 or 460. couldn't set it to 300mb. and no i rarely do
uninstalls/installs at home.
i checked programs/accessories/system tools . found no system restore there.
it remains a desktop icon. would i now require to use sr only from desktop.
it has always been in system tools.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like your SR archive is hosed - the actual space used is greater than
the allocation.
This is often caused by attempting to reset System Restore without rebooting
IMMEDIATELY after checking/unchecking the disable option.

You'll have to do a proper reset of SR -
To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore slider
to your preferred setting.

Most people find that a setting of 200-300MB is sufficient to hold 10-15
days worth of restore points, unless you are doing a lot of
installs/uninstalls, or installing large applications (such as Office).



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
no. i am not running norton. it was removed months ago.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

(that's the way it *should* be!!)

10,000 -odd files?
are you running Norton Software of any kind?



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i also noted that in system restore the past 7-8 days each date was in
bold
#'s. i found that unusual.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System Properties|Performance|File
System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set to view
Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system restore.
That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help, System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down
before
it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore point.

Sounds like you accidentally moved the icon and shortcut from the menu to
the desktop - easiest thing is to copy it back in.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

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"bonifacia" wrote in message
news
there was no prior attempt on my part to reset sr, which would have
required
rebooting immediately ..as you pointed out.
as i pointed the sr bar did not complete before it automatically rebooted
itself.
i followed your directions as posted. on the last part setting the slider
it
was either 200 or 460. couldn't set it to 300mb. and no i rarely do
uninstalls/installs at home.
i checked programs/accessories/system tools . found no system restore
there.
it remains a desktop icon. would i now require to use sr only from
desktop.
it has always been in system tools.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like your SR archive is hosed - the actual space used is greater
than
the allocation.
This is often caused by attempting to reset System Restore without
rebooting
IMMEDIATELY after checking/unchecking the disable option.

You'll have to do a proper reset of SR -
To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately
following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore
slider
to your preferred setting.

Most people find that a setting of 200-300MB is sufficient to hold 10-15
days worth of restore points, unless you are doing a lot of
installs/uninstalls, or installing large applications (such as Office).



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
no. i am not running norton. it was removed months ago.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

(that's the way it *should* be!!)

10,000 -odd files?
are you running Norton Software of any kind?



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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NG's

"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i also noted that in system restore the past 7-8 days each date was
in
bold
#'s. i found that unusual.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System
Properties|Performance|File
System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set to
view
Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's

"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system
restore.
That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help,
System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in
message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down
before
it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore
point.

again.. as i pointed out 6/25 this started when i wanted to use system
restore and the bar never completed when the computer would reboot
itself-result no restoration . after several attempts to use system restore
going back 2-3 days only i decided to post the question as to why this is
occuring and why all of the sudden sytem restore was not in system tools but
rather on the desktop.

how and why system restore is on the desktop, i am cautious that it was i
who mistakenly / accidently put it there. your solution is easy copy it
back.

so the question is how to place system restore back into system tools ?
open question.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like you accidentally moved the icon and shortcut from the menu to
the desktop - easiest thing is to copy it back in.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"bonifacia" wrote in message
news
there was no prior attempt on my part to reset sr, which would have
required
rebooting immediately ..as you pointed out.
as i pointed the sr bar did not complete before it automatically rebooted
itself.
i followed your directions as posted. on the last part setting the slider
it
was either 200 or 460. couldn't set it to 300mb. and no i rarely do
uninstalls/installs at home.
i checked programs/accessories/system tools . found no system restore
there.
it remains a desktop icon. would i now require to use sr only from
desktop.
it has always been in system tools.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like your SR archive is hosed - the actual space used is greater
than
the allocation.
This is often caused by attempting to reset System Restore without
rebooting
IMMEDIATELY after checking/unchecking the disable option.

You'll have to do a proper reset of SR -
To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately
following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore
slider
to your preferred setting.

Most people find that a setting of 200-300MB is sufficient to hold 10-15
days worth of restore points, unless you are doing a lot of
installs/uninstalls, or installing large applications (such as Office).



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
no. i am not running norton. it was removed months ago.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

(that's the way it *should* be!!)

10,000 -odd files?
are you running Norton Software of any kind?



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i also noted that in system restore the past 7-8 days each date was
in
bold
#'s. i found that unusual.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System
Properties|Performance|File
System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set to
view
Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's

"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system
restore.
That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help,
System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in
message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts down
before
it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore
point.

r-click on the icon on the desktop - select Copy

go to
Start|Programs|Accessories|System Tools
r-click inside the menu presented, and select Paste

job done!!


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
again.. as i pointed out 6/25 this started when i wanted to use system
restore and the bar never completed when the computer would reboot
itself-result no restoration . after several attempts to use system
restore
going back 2-3 days only i decided to post the question as to why this is
occuring and why all of the sudden sytem restore was not in system tools
but
rather on the desktop.

how and why system restore is on the desktop, i am cautious that it was i
who mistakenly / accidently put it there. your solution is easy copy it
back.

so the question is how to place system restore back into system tools ?
open question.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like you accidentally moved the icon and shortcut from the menu to
the desktop - easiest thing is to copy it back in.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"bonifacia" wrote in message
news
there was no prior attempt on my part to reset sr, which would have
required
rebooting immediately ..as you pointed out.
as i pointed the sr bar did not complete before it automatically
rebooted
itself.
i followed your directions as posted. on the last part setting the
slider
it
was either 200 or 460. couldn't set it to 300mb. and no i rarely do
uninstalls/installs at home.
i checked programs/accessories/system tools . found no system restore
there.
it remains a desktop icon. would i now require to use sr only from
desktop.
it has always been in system tools.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like your SR archive is hosed - the actual space used is
greater
than
the allocation.
This is often caused by attempting to reset System Restore without
rebooting
IMMEDIATELY after checking/unchecking the disable option.

You'll have to do a proper reset of SR -
To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately
following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore
slider
to your preferred setting.

Most people find that a setting of 200-300MB is sufficient to hold
10-15
days worth of restore points, unless you are doing a lot of
installs/uninstalls, or installing large applications (such as
Office).



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
no. i am not running norton. it was removed months ago.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

(that's the way it *should* be!!)

10,000 -odd files?
are you running Norton Software of any kind?



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's

"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i also noted that in system restore the past 7-8 days each date
was
in
bold
#'s. i found that unusual.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System
Properties|Performance|File
System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set to
view
Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages
to
NG's

"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system
restore.
That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help,
System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in
message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts
down
before
it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore
point.

now i know how to copy/paste..... it is not what i expected.
now i can say "no biggie". it worked and i did a system restore. so, it's up
and working. can't thank you enough.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

r-click on the icon on the desktop - select Copy

go to
Start|Programs|Accessories|System Tools
r-click inside the menu presented, and select Paste

job done!!


--
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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
again.. as i pointed out 6/25 this started when i wanted to use system
restore and the bar never completed when the computer would reboot
itself-result no restoration . after several attempts to use system
restore
going back 2-3 days only i decided to post the question as to why this is
occuring and why all of the sudden sytem restore was not in system tools
but
rather on the desktop.

how and why system restore is on the desktop, i am cautious that it was i
who mistakenly / accidently put it there. your solution is easy copy it
back.

so the question is how to place system restore back into system tools ?
open question.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like you accidentally moved the icon and shortcut from the menu to
the desktop - easiest thing is to copy it back in.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

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"bonifacia" wrote in message
news there was no prior attempt on my part to reset sr, which would have
required
rebooting immediately ..as you pointed out.
as i pointed the sr bar did not complete before it automatically
rebooted
itself.
i followed your directions as posted. on the last part setting the
slider
it
was either 200 or 460. couldn't set it to 300mb. and no i rarely do
uninstalls/installs at home.
i checked programs/accessories/system tools . found no system restore
there.
it remains a desktop icon. would i now require to use sr only from
desktop.
it has always been in system tools.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like your SR archive is hosed - the actual space used is
greater
than
the allocation.
This is often caused by attempting to reset System Restore without
rebooting
IMMEDIATELY after checking/unchecking the disable option.

You'll have to do a proper reset of SR -
To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately
following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore
slider
to your preferred setting.

Most people find that a setting of 200-300MB is sufficient to hold
10-15
days worth of restore points, unless you are doing a lot of
installs/uninstalls, or installing large applications (such as
Office).



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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NG's

"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
no. i am not running norton. it was removed months ago.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

(that's the way it *should* be!!)

10,000 -odd files?
are you running Norton Software of any kind?



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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
i also noted that in system restore the past 7-8 days each date
was
in
bold
#'s. i found that unusual.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System
Properties|Performance|File
System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set to
view
Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
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to
NG's

"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system
restore.
That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help,
System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in
message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts
down
before
it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no restore
point.

You're welcome - glad you're all fixed up now.


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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
now i know how to copy/paste..... it is not what i expected.
now i can say "no biggie". it worked and i did a system restore. so, it's
up
and working. can't thank you enough.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

r-click on the icon on the desktop - select Copy

go to
Start|Programs|Accessories|System Tools
r-click inside the menu presented, and select Paste

job done!!


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"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
again.. as i pointed out 6/25 this started when i wanted to use system
restore and the bar never completed when the computer would reboot
itself-result no restoration . after several attempts to use system
restore
going back 2-3 days only i decided to post the question as to why this
is
occuring and why all of the sudden sytem restore was not in system
tools
but
rather on the desktop.

how and why system restore is on the desktop, i am cautious that it was
i
who mistakenly / accidently put it there. your solution is easy copy
it
back.

so the question is how to place system restore back into system tools ?
open question.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like you accidentally moved the icon and shortcut from the menu
to
the desktop - easiest thing is to copy it back in.

--
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Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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NG's

"bonifacia" wrote in message
news there was no prior attempt on my part to reset sr, which would have
required
rebooting immediately ..as you pointed out.
as i pointed the sr bar did not complete before it automatically
rebooted
itself.
i followed your directions as posted. on the last part setting the
slider
it
was either 200 or 460. couldn't set it to 300mb. and no i rarely do
uninstalls/installs at home.
i checked programs/accessories/system tools . found no system
restore
there.
it remains a desktop icon. would i now require to use sr only from
desktop.
it has always been in system tools.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like your SR archive is hosed - the actual space used is
greater
than
the allocation.
This is often caused by attempting to reset System Restore without
rebooting
IMMEDIATELY after checking/unchecking the disable option.

You'll have to do a proper reset of SR -
To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately
following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the
restore
slider
to your preferred setting.

Most people find that a setting of 200-300MB is sufficient to hold
10-15
days worth of restore points, unless you are doing a lot of
installs/uninstalls, or installing large applications (such as
Office).



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's

"bonifacia" wrote in message
...
no. i am not running norton. it was removed months ago.


"Noel Paton" wrote:

(that's the way it *should* be!!)

10,000 -odd files?
are you running Norton Software of any kind?



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages
to
NG's

"bonifacia" wrote in
message
...
i also noted that in system restore the past 7-8 days each
date
was
in
bold
#'s. i found that unusual.
thanks.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

It's unlikely that that would be the cause - but possible.

Boni
Check the space allocated to SR - System
Properties|Performance|File
System

How much is actually being used?
Open Windows Explorer - make sure that Folder Options are set
to
view
Hidden
AND System files
r-click on the C:\_Restore icon, and select Properties
How much space is in use?? How many files and folders??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages
to
NG's

"Walterius" wrote in message
...
Maybe you don't have enough disk space allocated to system
restore.
That
will shut it down (with no explanation, I think). Try Help,
System
Restore.
"bonifacia" wrote in
message
...
i tried numerous times to do a system restore ... it shuts
down
before
it
finishes then it restarts , but unable to restore.
tried numerous times.
now i don't have system restore within system tools.?
but a system restore icon appeared on my desktop...
i then clicked the sr icon and the same thing... no
restore
point.