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I presently have two CD drives installed on my computer - Plextor
CD-R PX-W1210A and Samsung CD-Rom SCR-3230. I also have an IOMEGA ZIP 100 drive on this system in addition to a floppy A drive and the hard drive. Here is the layout for these devices as noted in the BIOS: Primary Master - [ST330621A] Primary Slave - IOMEGA ZIP 100 Secondary Master - PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A Secondary Slave - SAMSUNG SCR-3230 FYI, my mother board is ASUS A7V133. Now for my questions: ---I would like to have the system at bootup check the drives in this order: A Drive (floppy), PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A, and then continue to normal boot procedures. How do I make this happen? ---Only one (PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A) of my two CD players automatically starts when a CD is placed in the system. Is there some way to make both CD players automatically start when a CD placed in the system? ---I presently have an external hard drive connected to my system via USB port. On this external hard drive lives my system backup. Will my system look for this external hard drive (following a complete hard drive formatting)should I have to resort to reinstalling this backup. If not, what steps do I take to make it accessible to a newly formatted hard drive? (((NOTE: I recently had a computer melt-down. This problem caused me to format the 120GB Hard Drive that was originally installed in my system. After several attempts to resolve this problem, I finally reverted to my old 30GB Hard Drive. It, too, went through a melt-down that caused me to format it also and install a backup made May 2006 on this system. Many have helped me get this hard drive up and working again. Yes, I have a few cleanup tasks to complete before this drive is back to the way I would like it to be. During this process, I lost over a year of genealogy data and family pictures. Thus, I am contemplating temporarily removing the 30GB drive from my system and reinstalling the formatted 120GB drive back in the system. Then, I would like to make an attempt to read the backup data from my external 120GB hard drive back on the internal 120GB hard drive--hoping to recover lost data files. (((The backup on the external hard drive was made using Acronis software. I have learned, subsequent to all of my computer problems starting, that one of the six floppy disks needed to reinstall the backup files from the external hard drive is faulty. Thus, I will need to make a new set of floppies before undertaking this task---that is, if this undertaking is possible from a USB connected hard drive.))) That is my reason for asking about the USB connected external hard drive above. Thanks for any help sent my way on any of the above. Without the help of individuals on this group, I would be in deep trouble at this point. Thanks again and again for helping me and all of us that get stumped by our computers and their problems. Frog |
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"Frog" wrote in message
... ---I would like to have the system at bootup check the drives in this order: A Drive (floppy), PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A, and then continue to normal boot procedures. How do I make this happen? 1. Boot drive source order is governed by BIOS settings. Interrupt the reboot process with the right key (usually DELete) and find your way to the right submenu of the BIOS menu. Mine is under / Boot and is named Boot Devices Priority. BIOS menus in ASUS MBs usually rotate a series of devices (e.g. floppy, HDD, CD) when you key + (plus) to change an item. But (undocumented feature) the DELete key usually removes from the series a device from which you plan never to boot. 2. You will need also to configure your HDD C: [ST330621A] as third in the boot drive sequence, after the floppy and CD. This way you get a normal boot from the HDD when those removable drives are empty. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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I presently have two CD drives installed on my computer - Plextor CD-R PX-W1210A and Samsung CD-Rom SCR-3230. I also have an IOMEGA ZIP 100 drive on this system in addition to a floppy A drive and the hard drive. Here is the layout for these devices as noted in the BIOS: Primary Master - [ST330621A] Primary Slave - IOMEGA ZIP 100 Secondary Master - PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A Secondary Slave - SAMSUNG SCR-3230 FYI, my mother board is ASUS A7V133. Now for my questions: ---I would like to have the system at bootup check the drives in this order: A Drive (floppy), PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A, and then continue to normal boot procedures. How do I make this happen? By setting the desired boot order in BIOS. Pointless to have the CD as a boot device unless you plan to put bootable discs in it. _____________ ---Only one (PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A) of my two CD players automatically starts when a CD is placed in the system. Is there some way to make both CD players automatically start when a CD placed in the system? Device manager Properties of the drive Tick "auto-notification" -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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Don Phillipson wrote:
"Frog" wrote in message ... ---I would like to have the system at bootup check the drives in this order: A Drive (floppy), PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A, and then continue to normal boot procedures. How do I make this happen? 1. Boot drive source order is governed by BIOS settings. Interrupt the reboot process with the right key (usually DELete) and find your way to the right submenu of the BIOS menu. Mine is under / Boot and is named Boot Devices Priority. BIOS menus in ASUS MBs usually rotate a series of devices (e.g. floppy, HDD, CD) when you key + (plus) to change an item. But (undocumented feature) the DELete key usually removes from the series a device from which you plan never to boot. 2. You will need also to configure your HDD C: [ST330621A] as third in the boot drive sequence, after the floppy and CD. This way you get a normal boot from the HDD when those removable drives are empty. Thanks for helping me Don. I did as you suggested, and the results were not what I expected. Here is a summary of events: I entered the BIOS, and I changed the "Boot" order as follows: 1. Removable Drive - [Legacy Floppy] 2. ATA PI CD_ROM - [PLEXTOR CD-R [X-W] 3. IDE HARD DRIVE - [ST330621A] 4. Other Boot Device - [INT 18 Device (Netw I then clicked F10 + YES to save my changes and to restart my computer. The computer restarted with no difficulties. I again visited the Device Manager to see if all was well there--it was not. Here is what I found: ---The SAMSUNG SCR-3230 CD player was totally gone. ---The PLEXTOR CD-R PX-1210A was there with a red X on it. The Plextor "Device status" was as follows: "This device is not working properly because a device it depends on, Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo), has been dramatically disabled. To view the properties for Secondary IDE Controller (dual fifo), click Properties." ---The Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) had a yellow ! mark on it. The "Device status" for this entry follows: "This device is either not present, not working properly, or does not have all the drivers installed." I next made a visit to Safe Mode/Device Manager. Both CD players were listed with no red X noted, and the Secondary IDE Controller did not have the yellow ! mark on it. The message under the CD players stated: Status is not available when Windows is running in Safe Mode. Lastly, I opened the BIOS and put the "BOOT" sequence back as it was before. A visit to the Device Manager in Normal and Safe Mode found both CD players listed, and there were no indications of any problems (no red X or yellow ! mark). Now, I am back to where I started...the boot sequence does not include my CD player. Help! Frog |
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Thanks for the help dadiOH. See comments interspersed in message below.
dadiOH wrote: Frog wrote: I presently have two CD drives installed on my computer - Plextor CD-R PX-W1210A and Samsung CD-Rom SCR-3230. I also have an IOMEGA ZIP 100 drive on this system in addition to a floppy A drive and the hard drive. Here is the layout for these devices as noted in the BIOS: Primary Master - [ST330621A] Primary Slave - IOMEGA ZIP 100 Secondary Master - PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A Secondary Slave - SAMSUNG SCR-3230 FYI, my mother board is ASUS A7V133. Now for my questions: ---I would like to have the system at bootup check the drives in this order: A Drive (floppy), PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A, and then continue to normal boot procedures. How do I make this happen? By setting the desired boot order in BIOS. Pointless to have the CD as a boot device unless you plan to put bootable discs in it. I tried making BIOS changes, that you and Don suggested. Please see the results of these BIOS changes included in my reply to Don Phillipson (this thread). _____________ ---Only one (PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A) of my two CD players automatically starts when a CD is placed in the system. Is there some way to make both CD players automatically start when a CD placed in the system? Device manager Properties of the drive Tick "auto-notification" I did as you suggested, and both CD players already had a Tick in auto-notification. I don't understand why one works and the other does not. Help! Frog |
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"Frog" wrote in message
... Don Phillipson wrote: "Frog" wrote in message ... ---I would like to have the system at bootup check the drives in this order: A Drive (floppy), PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A, and then continue to normal boot procedures. How do I make this happen? 1. Boot drive source order is governed by BIOS settings. Interrupt the reboot process with the right key (usually DELete) and find your way to the right submenu of the BIOS menu. Mine is under / Boot and is named Boot Devices Priority. BIOS menus in ASUS MBs usually rotate a series of devices (e.g. floppy, HDD, CD) when you key + (plus) to change an item. But (undocumented feature) the DELete key usually removes from the series a device from which you plan never to boot. 2. You will need also to configure your HDD C: [ST330621A] as third in the boot drive sequence, after the floppy and CD. This way you get a normal boot from the HDD when those removable drives are empty. Thanks for helping me Don. I did as you suggested, and the results were not what I expected. Here is a summary of events: I entered the BIOS, and I changed the "Boot" order as follows: 1. Removable Drive - [Legacy Floppy] 2. ATA PI CD_ROM - [PLEXTOR CD-R [X-W] 3. IDE HARD DRIVE - [ST330621A] 4. Other Boot Device - [INT 18 Device (Netw I then clicked F10 + YES to save my changes and to restart my computer. The computer restarted with no difficulties. I again visited the Device Manager to see if all was well there--it was not. Here is what I found: ---The SAMSUNG SCR-3230 CD player was totally gone. ---The PLEXTOR CD-R PX-1210A was there with a red X on it. The Plextor "Device status" was as follows: "This device is not working properly because a device it depends on, Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo), has been dramatically disabled. To view the properties for Secondary IDE Controller (dual fifo), click Properties." ---The Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) had a yellow ! mark on it. The "Device status" for this entry follows: "This device is either not present, not working properly, or does not have all the drivers installed." I next made a visit to Safe Mode/Device Manager. Both CD players were listed with no red X noted, and the Secondary IDE Controller did not have the yellow ! mark on it. The message under the CD players stated: Status is not available when Windows is running in Safe Mode. Lastly, I opened the BIOS and put the "BOOT" sequence back as it was before. A visit to the Device Manager in Normal and Safe Mode found both CD players listed, and there were no indications of any problems (no red X or yellow ! mark). Now, I am back to where I started...the boot sequence does not include my CD player. When you boot OK with any hardware device missing, the first cure is to remove that device from / Control Panel / System and reboot, with the intention that Win98 will find the device as "New Hardware" and reinstal drivers if needed (not usual for CD RO drives.) Your message seems to say IDE#2 malfunctions when the boot drive sequence includes a CD drive on IDE#2 but IDE#2 behaves OK when boot drive sequence excludes CD drives. I cannot think why. Your other followup says both drives are set to Autoload but the Samsung RO drive does not do this. Perhaps this drive is defective. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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"Frog" wrote in message
... Don Phillipson wrote: "Frog" wrote in message ... ---I would like to have the system at bootup check the drives in this order: A Drive (floppy), PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A, and then continue to normal boot procedures. How do I make this happen? 1. Boot drive source order is governed by BIOS settings. Interrupt the reboot process with the right key (usually DELete) and find your way to the right submenu of the BIOS menu. Mine is under / Boot and is named Boot Devices Priority. BIOS menus in ASUS MBs usually rotate a series of devices (e.g. floppy, HDD, CD) when you key + (plus) to change an item. But (undocumented feature) the DELete key usually removes from the series a device from which you plan never to boot. 2. You will need also to configure your HDD C: [ST330621A] as third in the boot drive sequence, after the floppy and CD. This way you get a normal boot from the HDD when those removable drives are empty. Thanks for helping me Don. I did as you suggested, and the results were not what I expected. Here is a summary of events: I entered the BIOS, and I changed the "Boot" order as follows: 1. Removable Drive - [Legacy Floppy] 2. ATA PI CD_ROM - [PLEXTOR CD-R [X-W] 3. IDE HARD DRIVE - [ST330621A] 4. Other Boot Device - [INT 18 Device (Netw Number 4's lost its tail. From what's present it appears to be a network device. I then clicked F10 + YES to save my changes and to restart my computer. The computer restarted with no difficulties. I again visited the Device Manager to see if all was well there--it was not. Here is what I found: ---The SAMSUNG SCR-3230 CD player was totally gone. ---The PLEXTOR CD-R PX-1210A was there with a red X on it. The Plextor "Device status" was as follows: "This device is not working properly because a device it depends on, Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo), has been dramatically disabled. To view the properties for Secondary IDE Controller (dual fifo), click Properties." ---The Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) had a yellow ! mark on it. The "Device status" for this entry follows: "This device is either not present, not working properly, or does not have all the drivers installed." Drivers are either not installed or corrupt. You need to uninstall both of all controllers and drives listed in Safe Mode DM. I next made a visit to Safe Mode/Device Manager. Both CD players were listed with no red X noted, and the Secondary IDE Controller did not have the yellow ! mark on it. The message under the CD players stated: Status is not available when Windows is running in Safe Mode. Since Safe Mode is basically used for tshooting it only loads the minimal drivers needed to run. Most of your hardware will not have the drivers loaded, the exception being only the essentials. Lastly, I opened the BIOS and put the "BOOT" sequence back as it was before. A visit to the Device Manager in Normal and Safe Mode found both CD players listed, and there were no indications of any problems (no red X or yellow ! mark). Appears to me that the registry may be corrupt and confused, at least in the hardware enum on which drive is which and which drive is where. I can suggest what may be deemed as a dramatic step, yet for now let's see what others have to offer. Now, I am back to where I started...the boot sequence does not include my CD player. It should, but then again it doesn't really matter. If you want to use either of the CD drives for what I suspect is to run a recovery/restore disk, startup the machine with a DOS boot disk that has CD support. Another thing to try would be to disconnect any/all devices you don't need when booting with a recovery/restore disk. One thing I don't understand is your mention of Six Floppies used for ATI recovery. Why the floppies and not a Recovery CD? An ATI Recovery Manager CD has the actual application(s) install.exe files on it. If you create the CD with more than one application included, it boots to a selection window where you choose which app to install/use. The window looks the same as when you first run the ATI installation in Windows. -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 |
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Brian,
We meet yet again about another one of my computer problems. Thank you very much for coming to my aid. I attempted to to do the steps you suggested, but had no success in solving my problem. I will enter comments in message below. Brian A. wrote: "Frog" wrote in message ... Don Phillipson wrote: "Frog" wrote in message ... ---I would like to have the system at bootup check the drives in this order: A Drive (floppy), PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A, and then continue to normal boot procedures. How do I make this happen? 1. Boot drive source order is governed by BIOS settings. Interrupt the reboot process with the right key (usually DELete) and find your way to the right submenu of the BIOS menu. Mine is under / Boot and is named Boot Devices Priority. BIOS menus in ASUS MBs usually rotate a series of devices (e.g. floppy, HDD, CD) when you key + (plus) to change an item. But (undocumented feature) the DELete key usually removes from the series a device from which you plan never to boot. 2. You will need also to configure your HDD C: [ST330621A] as third in the boot drive sequence, after the floppy and CD. This way you get a normal boot from the HDD when those removable drives are empty. Thanks for helping me Don. I did as you suggested, and the results were not what I expected. Here is a summary of events: I entered the BIOS, and I changed the "Boot" order as follows: 1. Removable Drive - [Legacy Floppy] 2. ATA PI CD_ROM - [PLEXTOR CD-R [X-W] 3. IDE HARD DRIVE - [ST330621A] 4. Other Boot Device - [INT 18 Device (Netw Number 4's lost its tail. From what's present it appears to be a network device. I checked this one out while in the BIOS today. It should read "INT18 Device (Network)". The ork) did not show in the BIOS window, but a small window showed up when I highlighted this entry...Disabled Onboard ATA100 BOOT Device/SCSI INT18 Device (Network). I then clicked F10 + YES to save my changes and to restart my computer. The computer restarted with no difficulties. I again visited the Device Manager to see if all was well there--it was not. Here is what I found: ---The SAMSUNG SCR-3230 CD player was totally gone. ---The PLEXTOR CD-R PX-1210A was there with a red X on it. The Plextor "Device status" was as follows: "This device is not working properly because a device it depends on, Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo), has been dramatically disabled. To view the properties for Secondary IDE Controller (dual fifo), click Properties." ---The Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) had a yellow ! mark on it. The "Device status" for this entry follows: "This device is either not present, not working properly, or does not have all the drivers installed." Drivers are either not installed or corrupt. You need to uninstall both of all controllers and drives listed in Safe Mode DM. Here is where the expected did not happen. I entered Safe Mode Device Manager Hard disk controllers and attempted to Remove the Primary IDE Controller (dual fifo) entry. That resulted in my seeing the following window: Confirm Device Removal Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) This device is part of a multi-function device, and cannot be removed independently. To remove this device, select and remove the multi-function parent. This will also remove any other devices that are part of this multi-function device. Parent device: No description available. I then attempted to remove the Primary IDE controller (dual fifo) with the same results as for the Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo). Next, I returned to normal mode Device Manager Hard disk controllers, and learned that the device for both the Primary and Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) were one and the same...VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller. Back to Safe Mode Device Manager Hard disk controllers, and I removed VIA Bus Master PCIIDE Controller. That removal worked for that entry. I was not permitted, however, to remove anything associated with the Primary or the Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) entries...same message as observed earlier. While in Safe Mode, I removed both CD players from Device Manager CDROM. I next made a visit to the BIOS, where I changed the Boot order...A Drive, Plextor CD, and the Hard Drive. I then restarted my computer. It indicated on start up that it was loading drivers for the VIA Bus Master PCIIDE Controller, and then it restarted again. Once in to normal Windows, I again made a visit to Device Manager. Both of the CD devices were missing, and I had a yellow ! mark next to the Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) entry. Back to the BIOS and changed the Boot order to A Drive, Hard Drive, Plextor CD. I restarted in normal Windows again, and found both CD devices and no ! mark in the Device Manager. I think I am now back to where I was before starting these steps. I next made a visit to Safe Mode/Device Manager. Both CD players were listed with no red X noted, and the Secondary IDE Controller did not have the yellow ! mark on it. The message under the CD players stated: Status is not available when Windows is running in Safe Mode. Since Safe Mode is basically used for tshooting it only loads the minimal drivers needed to run. Most of your hardware will not have the drivers loaded, the exception being only the essentials. Thanks for this information. I observed this today while in Safe Mode. Thanks. Lastly, I opened the BIOS and put the "BOOT" sequence back as it was before. A visit to the Device Manager in Normal and Safe Mode found both CD players listed, and there were no indications of any problems (no red X or yellow ! mark). Appears to me that the registry may be corrupt and confused, at least in the hardware enum on which drive is which and which drive is where. Although I am not a computer technician by any stretch, I observed some things while this computer was in the shop that make me think you may be correct in this assessment. Some time back, I had to take this computer in to have a fan replaced. This process caused the technician to remove the motherboard in order to get to the back of the board. I know he removed all of the ribbon wires from Primary and Secondary connections to the motherboard. I know that he was having difficulty in removing the board, causing him to remove the ribbon wire entirely. I, however, did not observe any problems after having this work done. The most recent time I was in was just prior to my big melt-down. The technician then told me that the SAMSUNG CD Device was not working properly. He then attempted to use a new replacement CD device to see if it would work then...it did not. He then removed/replaced the ribbon wiring from the computer and replaced it with new wiring...that made no difference. He then left the SAMSUNG CD out of the system. When I returned home from this visit, the computer immediately started its meltdown. Once I was able to connect to the Internet again, I decided to see if the SAMSUNG CD device would work again...it did. I attempted to play a CD in this device last night, however, and (unlike how it was immediately after I installed it in the system) it did everything but play a sound. I did not unplug anything, when I reinstalled the SAMSUNG CD device...I simply found a plug on the ribbon wiring that was not in use. That is what makes me think your thoughts about registry or wiring problems may be a part of my problem...this from a person who knows little about computers but is learning quickly. I can suggest what may be deemed as a dramatic step, yet for now let's see what others have to offer. Now, I am back to where I started...the boot sequence does not include my CD player. It should, but then again it doesn't really matter. If you want to use either of the CD drives for what I suspect is to run a recovery/restore disk, startup the machine with a DOS boot disk that has CD support. This is what I did, and it was a follow on step that didn't work. I used a floppy to access my hard drive (the 120GB hard drive that is in the drawer at the moment). I then formatted the 120GB hard drive. After this, I used a series of floppy disks on a restart of my computer that were made the backup...a backup that was made on another 120GB external USB connected hard drive. I was feeding these six disks into the A Drive, and all seemed to be going well. Well, disk 5 was found to have an error on it that would not let me proceed further. Thus, I now anticipate loading the software back on my system (the working 30GB hard drive presently in my system) that was used to make the original backup...thus, permitting me to make six new floppies...hoping that they will work properly. If that works, I will eventually remove the 30GB hard drive and reinstall the 120GB hard drive. I will again format the 120GB internal hard drive using the Windows generated startup floppy. I next will restart my computer with the first of the six backup floppies installed in the A drive and the 120GB external USB connected hard drive plugged into the system. If all goes according to plan, I would then read the backup from the 120GB external hard drive back on to the 120GB internal hard drive. I know this all sounds confusing, but I hope you can follow my plan...as I am not sure that this plan is not flawed. That is, I'm not sure that a backup on an external USB hard drive can be reinstalled on a newly formatted internal hard drive. Will it find the USB connected hard drive is the question. The bottom line, I really would like to recover my genealogy files and photos. Another thing to try would be to disconnect any/all devices you don't need when booting with a recovery/restore disk. One thing I don't understand is your mention of Six Floppies used for ATI recovery. Why the floppies and not a Recovery CD? An ATI Recovery Manager CD has the actual application(s) install.exe files on it. If you create the CD with more than one application included, it boots to a selection window where you choose which app to install/use. The window looks the same as when you first run the ATI installation in Windows. In view of above, are you telling me that I should start with the Windows startup floppy and then direct the system to the six floppies I identified above? Will I be able to direct it to the external hard drive for the backup data? I'm not quite sure I understand the procedure you are outlining. Thanks for your help and guidance...it is always appreciated. Frog |
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Frog wrote:
Brian A. wrote: "Frog" wrote: "Frog" wrote: ---I would like to have the system at bootup check the drives in this order: A Drive (floppy), PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A, and then continue to normal boot procedures. How do I make this happen? Well, that is how you have it listed in the BIOS-selection shown below, but you said that that showed problems in the Device Manager. Look below to see if selecting the Samsung Optical Disk Drive (ODD) will make a difference. You originally also asked the following. "Is there some way to make both CD players automatically start when a CD placed in the system?" Per below, it doesn't seem so. [snip] Here is a summary of events: I entered the BIOS, and I changed the "Boot" order as follows: 1. Removable Drive - [Legacy Floppy] 2. ATA PI CD_ROM - [PLEXTOR CD-R [X-W] 3. IDE HARD DRIVE - [ST330621A] 4. Other Boot Device - [INT 18 Device (Netw Number 4's lost its tail. From what's present it appears to be a network device. I checked this one out while in the BIOS today. It should read "INT18 Device (Network)". The ork) did not show in the BIOS window, but a small window showed up when I highlighted this entry...Disabled Onboard ATA100 BOOT Device/SCSI INT18 Device (Network). So do the same for the 'ATAPI CD-ROM' entry and you will ( most probably ) be able to choose one or the other of the CD-Drives as being the bootable one. The same for the 'IDE Hard Drive' entry if you have more then one HDD. Only one of each 'type' can be selected as bootable at the same time. My A7V333 have two ODD's on the second IDE channel ( master and slave ) and can use either one selected to boot from with all IDE devices present and working in the Device Manager, so the OS on your A7V133 seems to have 'issues'. ( And first of all, check and consider selecting 'Type: [CD-ROM]' for the ODD's on the BIOS Setup's main page. ) -- Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. Please followup in the newsgroup. E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control. |
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Thanks for responding to my call for help.
1. I have done several things since receiving your message, that I would like to recap for you. First, I got inside of the box to confirm where the ribbon wires go from the motherboard and to what device. Here are the results of that survey: The plug closest to the edge of the motherboard (titled FLOPPY on the drawing in my book) is connected to the floppy drive (A Drive). The Secondary IDE plug (second in from the side of the motherboard) is connected first to the SAMSUNG-3230 CD device and then to the Plextor CD-R device. The Primary IDE plug (third in from the side of the motherboard) is connected first to the hard drive and then to the ZIP-100 drive. I concluded that all devices were plugged in correctly---maybe. I say maybe, because I see the SAMSUNG CD device lighting up on startup even when it is listed below the hard drive during startup. I turned off my computer, put my Windows 98SE CD in the SAMSOUNG CD device, and started my computer. The lights flickered on the front of the CD player during startup, but it did not run the 98SE CD. I then moved it to a position ahead of the hard drive in the boot sequence...the results were the same as before. I do not see the lights flicker on the front of the PLEXTOR CD player during startup. 2. Based on your message, I made a visit to the BIOS/MAIN window. Here is the way I found four lines of information on this page, when I arrived---followed by the actions I took: Primary Mster [Auto] - I made no change to this line. Primary Slave [Auto] - On the second window of this entry, I changed Auto to ZIP-100. Secondary Master [Auto] - On the second window of this entry, I changed Auto to CD-ROM Secondary Slave [Auto] - On the second window of this entry, I changed Auto to CD-ROM I restarted my computer and immediately looked in Device Manager. There I found the hard drive partitions listed, but no ZIP or CD drives were listed. So back to the BIOS again. I changed everything back except the Secondary Slave entry which remained CD-ROM. A restart and all of the devices were again present in the Device Manager (no problems noted). I put 98SE CD in the SAMSUNG device; and it very slowly auto started, and the Windows page appeared on screen. (Hurray, this device had stopped reading and presenting information on screen several days ago---good news). I then put the 98SE CD in the PLEXTOR device; and it quickly auto started, and the Windows page appeared on screen. Thus, this change did make a difference with the SAMSUNG device---it again works. 3. I next visited the BIOS/BOOT page again. Here is the way this page looked on arrival: 1. Removable Device [Legacy Floppy] 2. IDE Hard Drive {ST330621A] 3. ATAPI CD-ROM [Plextor CD-R PX-W1210A] 4. Other Boot Device [INT18 Device (Network)] Of course, neither CD player is in the boot sequence before the hard drive. Thus, I changed the order of these elements, and only two combinations did not cause problems in the Device Manager. The first no problem was as I found them above. The second was as follows: 1. Removable Device [Legacy Floppy] 2. Other Boot Device [INT18 Device (Network)] 3. IDE Hard Drive {ST330621A] 4. ATAPI CD-ROM [Plextor CD-R PX-W1210A] This combination did not result in any problems in the Device Manager. It, however, did not open the 98SE CD on boot-up. I think the above is a summary of the steps I have taken in response to the information presented in your message. I hope I did as you suggested--if not, let me know and I will try again. I know that my computer originally only had one CD device installed (SAMSUNG). It was not until many years later that the second CD device was installed (PLEXTOR). They both seemed to perform perfectly together prior to my meltdown. No, to the best of my knowledge, a CD device has never been in the boot sequence before the hard drive. Secondly, the SAMSUNG device is slow and may be on its way to the grave yard---that is, unless some setting is causing it to be slow. The technician at the shop (back when I was having the internal hard drive installed) could not make it work and removed it from the system. After my meltdown, I reinstalled it, and it has worked intermittently/and started reading a CD very slowly since that re-installation. Question, does it make any difference which CD device is Master and Slave? If so, what happens if I switch the ribbon wire on the back of these two devices? Well, that is about all I have to share with you. Let me know if I got off base anywhere. Thanks again for helping me. Frog .... et al. wrote: Frog wrote: Brian A. wrote: "Frog" wrote: "Frog" wrote: ---I would like to have the system at bootup check the drives in this order: A Drive (floppy), PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A, and then continue to normal boot procedures. How do I make this happen? Well, that is how you have it listed in the BIOS-selection shown below, but you said that that showed problems in the Device Manager. Look below to see if selecting the Samsung Optical Disk Drive (ODD) will make a difference. You originally also asked the following. "Is there some way to make both CD players automatically start when a CD placed in the system?" Per below, it doesn't seem so. [snip] Here is a summary of events: I entered the BIOS, and I changed the "Boot" order as follows: 1. Removable Drive - [Legacy Floppy] 2. ATA PI CD_ROM - [PLEXTOR CD-R [X-W] 3. IDE HARD DRIVE - [ST330621A] 4. Other Boot Device - [INT 18 Device (Netw Number 4's lost its tail. From what's present it appears to be a network device. I checked this one out while in the BIOS today. It should read "INT18 Device (Network)". The ork) did not show in the BIOS window, but a small window showed up when I highlighted this entry...Disabled Onboard ATA100 BOOT Device/SCSI INT18 Device (Network). So do the same for the 'ATAPI CD-ROM' entry and you will ( most probably ) be able to choose one or the other of the CD-Drives as being the bootable one. The same for the 'IDE Hard Drive' entry if you have more then one HDD. Only one of each 'type' can be selected as bootable at the same time. My A7V333 have two ODD's on the second IDE channel ( master and slave ) and can use either one selected to boot from with all IDE devices present and working in the Device Manager, so the OS on your A7V133 seems to have 'issues'. ( And first of all, check and consider selecting 'Type: [CD-ROM]' for the ODD's on the BIOS Setup's main page. ) |
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