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  #1  
Old October 14th 05, 11:29 PM
L.
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Default reinstalling 98se???

gigabyte socket A MB ga-7zxe
amd 950 duron
2 newer cd drive-1 burner
agp 32 meg video card
onboard sound

Had some major problems I couldn't correct plus system was really loaded
down so---.

Reformatted a 40gig HD. format c: /s

When I start to reload WIN98se, the system hangs at
" Windows 98 setup" screen (setup is preparing the win98 setup wizard-----).
The first time I tried to reload it hung at ~ 32%. Push reset button and now
it's hung at ~ 5 % and floppy light is solid green.

Any suggestions please,

PS Before posting, tried again and changed the win98 cd to the other cd
player. Locked up at 13% with no lights on.
Should I replace the "newer" cd player with an older 24x I have and try it?






  #2  
Old October 15th 05, 12:47 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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What I'd try is to boot to the floppy Startup disk, with CDROM support, and
run the following (assumes your CDROM drive is E:\. Edit if necessary.)
Press Enter at the end of each line. Pay attention to spaces and
punctuation.

c:
md WIN98
e:
cd win98
copy *.* c:\win98

That will put all the necessary files onto your hard drive. It will also
tell you if the problem is not being able to read files from the CD. If you
get errors, then you should try replacing the drive. But it may also be due
to the CD itself being scratched or otherwise damaged. If scratches are
suspected, wipe the CD with a soft cloth using radial strokes (from the
center of the CD to the outer edge) not in a circular motion. Also, I've
seen good results from using car wax to polish the CD surface (the side
opposite the label.) Lastly, if the label side is scratched deeply, the CD
may simply be worthless now. That's the side the data actually resides on.

If the Copy operation goes well, then remove the floppy disk and reboot. At
the C:\ prompt, type:

md win98
setup

If you still have problems, then report back with details.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"L." wrote in message
...
gigabyte socket A MB ga-7zxe
amd 950 duron
2 newer cd drive-1 burner
agp 32 meg video card
onboard sound

Had some major problems I couldn't correct plus system was really loaded
down so---.

Reformatted a 40gig HD. format c: /s

When I start to reload WIN98se, the system hangs at
" Windows 98 setup" screen (setup is preparing the win98 setup

wizard-----).
The first time I tried to reload it hung at ~ 32%. Push reset button and

now
it's hung at ~ 5 % and floppy light is solid green.

Any suggestions please,

PS Before posting, tried again and changed the win98 cd to the other cd
player. Locked up at 13% with no lights on.
Should I replace the "newer" cd player with an older 24x I have and try

it?








  #3  
Old October 15th 05, 01:02 AM
L...
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Default

Thanks for the info.
We're going out of town this week-end but will try when I get back
Sunday/Monday.
Just didn't want you to think I forgot.

Do I need to run fdisk before/after formatting?


L.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
What I'd try is to boot to the floppy Startup disk, with CDROM support,
and
run the following (assumes your CDROM drive is E:\. Edit if necessary.)
Press Enter at the end of each line. Pay attention to spaces and
punctuation.

c:
md WIN98
e:
cd win98
copy *.* c:\win98

That will put all the necessary files onto your hard drive. It will also
tell you if the problem is not being able to read files from the CD. If
you
get errors, then you should try replacing the drive. But it may also be
due
to the CD itself being scratched or otherwise damaged. If scratches are
suspected, wipe the CD with a soft cloth using radial strokes (from the
center of the CD to the outer edge) not in a circular motion. Also, I've
seen good results from using car wax to polish the CD surface (the side
opposite the label.) Lastly, if the label side is scratched deeply, the CD
may simply be worthless now. That's the side the data actually resides on.

If the Copy operation goes well, then remove the floppy disk and reboot.
At
the C:\ prompt, type:

md win98
setup

If you still have problems, then report back with details.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"L." wrote in message
...
gigabyte socket A MB ga-7zxe
amd 950 duron
2 newer cd drive-1 burner
agp 32 meg video card
onboard sound

Had some major problems I couldn't correct plus system was really loaded
down so---.

Reformatted a 40gig HD. format c: /s

When I start to reload WIN98se, the system hangs at
" Windows 98 setup" screen (setup is preparing the win98 setup

wizard-----).
The first time I tried to reload it hung at ~ 32%. Push reset button and

now
it's hung at ~ 5 % and floppy light is solid green.

Any suggestions please,

PS Before posting, tried again and changed the win98 cd to the other cd
player. Locked up at 13% with no lights on.
Should I replace the "newer" cd player with an older 24x I have and try

it?










  #4  
Old October 15th 05, 01:30 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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FDISK sets up partitions. Once partitions are set up, you format them. Then
you can use them.

Sounds to me like you've no need for FDISK. Believe me, if there are
problems with your partitioning or boot records, you usually get error
messages early on. But if there's nothing on your system that you need to
keep, using FDISK to delete all partitions and then recreate what you need
is a good idea. You'd do well to use more than one partition. 8GB (maximum)
for the system partition (C:\) and then others for data storage. My typical
arrangement is 8GB for C:\, 2-4 GB for D:\ which I reserve for TEMP and
Temporary Internet Files (TIF) and other temp uses, then divvy up the rest
for personal documents (like My Documents and Outlook Express stores, etc.)
still using the 8GB limit for efficiency. Larger partitions can be created
for multimedia files and downloaded stuff like AV installation files, etc.

If you post back and tell us what your primary usage is (what you mostly use
the machine for), I can suggest ways to go about it. Unless you want to
multi-boot (have more than one operating system on the machines that you can
switch between) you should only create C:\ as a Primary Partition. The rest
of the drive is then used to create an Extended Partition, and then that
Extended Partition is divvied up into Volumes (D:\, E:\, F:\, etc.) I can
also tell you how to move TEMP, TIF, My Documents, etc., and you'll also do
well to immediately change the CD drive(s) letter(s) to way down the
alphabet, like X:\ and Y:\ (there's good reasons for it) and then use
REGEDIT to make the few necessary changes to accommodate that move.

Getting volatile data (TEMP and TIF) out of C:\ will help improve
reliability immensely. Getting personal documents out of C:\ will make it
easier to repair or replace the Windows installation in the future, and
still retain your personal files.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User



"L..." wrote in message
...
Thanks for the info.
We're going out of town this week-end but will try when I get back
Sunday/Monday.
Just didn't want you to think I forgot.

Do I need to run fdisk before/after formatting?


L.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
What I'd try is to boot to the floppy Startup disk, with CDROM support,
and
run the following (assumes your CDROM drive is E:\. Edit if necessary.)
Press Enter at the end of each line. Pay attention to spaces and
punctuation.

c:
md WIN98
e:
cd win98
copy *.* c:\win98

That will put all the necessary files onto your hard drive. It will also
tell you if the problem is not being able to read files from the CD. If
you
get errors, then you should try replacing the drive. But it may also be
due
to the CD itself being scratched or otherwise damaged. If scratches are
suspected, wipe the CD with a soft cloth using radial strokes (from the
center of the CD to the outer edge) not in a circular motion. Also, I've
seen good results from using car wax to polish the CD surface (the side
opposite the label.) Lastly, if the label side is scratched deeply, the

CD
may simply be worthless now. That's the side the data actually resides

on.

If the Copy operation goes well, then remove the floppy disk and reboot.
At
the C:\ prompt, type:

md win98
setup

If you still have problems, then report back with details.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"L." wrote in message
...
gigabyte socket A MB ga-7zxe
amd 950 duron
2 newer cd drive-1 burner
agp 32 meg video card
onboard sound

Had some major problems I couldn't correct plus system was really

loaded
down so---.

Reformatted a 40gig HD. format c: /s

When I start to reload WIN98se, the system hangs at
" Windows 98 setup" screen (setup is preparing the win98 setup

wizard-----).
The first time I tried to reload it hung at ~ 32%. Push reset button

and
now
it's hung at ~ 5 % and floppy light is solid green.

Any suggestions please,

PS Before posting, tried again and changed the win98 cd to the other

cd
player. Locked up at 13% with no lights on.
Should I replace the "newer" cd player with an older 24x I have and try

it?












  #5  
Old October 15th 05, 01:40 AM
Ron Badour
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Posts: n/a
Default

Fdisk is only run to create or delete partitions. If you are satisfied with
your existing partitions, do not run fdisk. For information on installing
W98, go to: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"L..." wrote in message
...
Thanks for the info.
We're going out of town this week-end but will try when I get back
Sunday/Monday.
Just didn't want you to think I forgot.

Do I need to run fdisk before/after formatting?


L.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
What I'd try is to boot to the floppy Startup disk, with CDROM support,
and
run the following (assumes your CDROM drive is E:\. Edit if necessary.)
Press Enter at the end of each line. Pay attention to spaces and
punctuation.

c:
md WIN98
e:
cd win98
copy *.* c:\win98

That will put all the necessary files onto your hard drive. It will also
tell you if the problem is not being able to read files from the CD. If
you
get errors, then you should try replacing the drive. But it may also be
due
to the CD itself being scratched or otherwise damaged. If scratches are
suspected, wipe the CD with a soft cloth using radial strokes (from the
center of the CD to the outer edge) not in a circular motion. Also, I've
seen good results from using car wax to polish the CD surface (the side
opposite the label.) Lastly, if the label side is scratched deeply, the
CD
may simply be worthless now. That's the side the data actually resides
on.

If the Copy operation goes well, then remove the floppy disk and reboot.
At
the C:\ prompt, type:

md win98
setup

If you still have problems, then report back with details.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"L." wrote in message
...
gigabyte socket A MB ga-7zxe
amd 950 duron
2 newer cd drive-1 burner
agp 32 meg video card
onboard sound

Had some major problems I couldn't correct plus system was really loaded
down so---.

Reformatted a 40gig HD. format c: /s

When I start to reload WIN98se, the system hangs at
" Windows 98 setup" screen (setup is preparing the win98 setup

wizard-----).
The first time I tried to reload it hung at ~ 32%. Push reset button and

now
it's hung at ~ 5 % and floppy light is solid green.

Any suggestions please,

PS Before posting, tried again and changed the win98 cd to the other
cd
player. Locked up at 13% with no lights on.
Should I replace the "newer" cd player with an older 24x I have and try

it?












  #6  
Old October 15th 05, 02:38 AM
L...
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Posts: n/a
Default

This older system is used primarily for back up storage for my main system
AND, just in case, our systems goes down. My wifes system blew a power
supply last month and this old one filled in real nice for a couple of days.

What I've been doing lately is "playing" with it. I had a 16 meg video
card(AGP) that went out, replaced it with an old 8 meg PCI card I had in a
"supply box" until I got a replacement(32 meg AGP I took out of my wifes
system and installed a new 64 meg card in her system). Now I can't get the
system to stay "on" unless I leave the PCI card in a slot but I plug the
monitor into the AGP Nvidia card. If I go into BOIS at startup, the monitor
stays on but as soon as I try to go further, it shuts down. A friend says I
have a bad AGP slot but why would it stay on during startup and BIOS screen?
I set BIOS to "fail safe" setting.

That's one thing that started the reformat/reload. Now it's all messed up
but I can't see getting rid of the system.

SO, it's a tool to learn on and man am I learning, more patience than
anything, but also a good standby/backup.

L.


"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Fdisk is only run to create or delete partitions. If you are satisfied
with your existing partitions, do not run fdisk. For information on
installing W98, go to:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"L..." wrote in message
...
Thanks for the info.
We're going out of town this week-end but will try when I get back
Sunday/Monday.
Just didn't want you to think I forgot.

Do I need to run fdisk before/after formatting?


L.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
What I'd try is to boot to the floppy Startup disk, with CDROM support,
and
run the following (assumes your CDROM drive is E:\. Edit if necessary.)
Press Enter at the end of each line. Pay attention to spaces and
punctuation.

c:
md WIN98
e:
cd win98
copy *.* c:\win98

That will put all the necessary files onto your hard drive. It will also
tell you if the problem is not being able to read files from the CD. If
you
get errors, then you should try replacing the drive. But it may also be
due
to the CD itself being scratched or otherwise damaged. If scratches are
suspected, wipe the CD with a soft cloth using radial strokes (from the
center of the CD to the outer edge) not in a circular motion. Also, I've
seen good results from using car wax to polish the CD surface (the side
opposite the label.) Lastly, if the label side is scratched deeply, the
CD
may simply be worthless now. That's the side the data actually resides
on.

If the Copy operation goes well, then remove the floppy disk and reboot.
At
the C:\ prompt, type:

md win98
setup

If you still have problems, then report back with details.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"L." wrote in message
...
gigabyte socket A MB ga-7zxe
amd 950 duron
2 newer cd drive-1 burner
agp 32 meg video card
onboard sound

Had some major problems I couldn't correct plus system was really
loaded
down so---.

Reformatted a 40gig HD. format c: /s

When I start to reload WIN98se, the system hangs at
" Windows 98 setup" screen (setup is preparing the win98 setup
wizard-----).
The first time I tried to reload it hung at ~ 32%. Push reset button
and
now
it's hung at ~ 5 % and floppy light is solid green.

Any suggestions please,

PS Before posting, tried again and changed the win98 cd to the other
cd
player. Locked up at 13% with no lights on.
Should I replace the "newer" cd player with an older 24x I have and try
it?














  #7  
Old October 15th 05, 02:52 AM
L...
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Posts: n/a
Default

Seems I'm not the only one with an install problem dealing with a GA-7zx.
Found another entry dated yesterday from Herman.


"L..." wrote in message
...
This older system is used primarily for back up storage for my main system
AND, just in case, our systems goes down. My wifes system blew a power
supply last month and this old one filled in real nice for a couple of
days.

What I've been doing lately is "playing" with it. I had a 16 meg video
card(AGP) that went out, replaced it with an old 8 meg PCI card I had in a
"supply box" until I got a replacement(32 meg AGP I took out of my wifes
system and installed a new 64 meg card in her system). Now I can't get the
system to stay "on" unless I leave the PCI card in a slot but I plug the
monitor into the AGP Nvidia card. If I go into BOIS at startup, the
monitor stays on but as soon as I try to go further, it shuts down. A
friend says I have a bad AGP slot but why would it stay on during startup
and BIOS screen?
I set BIOS to "fail safe" setting.

That's one thing that started the reformat/reload. Now it's all messed up
but I can't see getting rid of the system.

SO, it's a tool to learn on and man am I learning, more patience than
anything, but also a good standby/backup.

L.


"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Fdisk is only run to create or delete partitions. If you are satisfied
with your existing partitions, do not run fdisk. For information on
installing W98, go to:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"L..." wrote in message
...
Thanks for the info.
We're going out of town this week-end but will try when I get back
Sunday/Monday.
Just didn't want you to think I forgot.

Do I need to run fdisk before/after formatting?


L.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
What I'd try is to boot to the floppy Startup disk, with CDROM support,
and
run the following (assumes your CDROM drive is E:\. Edit if necessary.)
Press Enter at the end of each line. Pay attention to spaces and
punctuation.

c:
md WIN98
e:
cd win98
copy *.* c:\win98

That will put all the necessary files onto your hard drive. It will
also
tell you if the problem is not being able to read files from the CD. If
you
get errors, then you should try replacing the drive. But it may also be
due
to the CD itself being scratched or otherwise damaged. If scratches are
suspected, wipe the CD with a soft cloth using radial strokes (from the
center of the CD to the outer edge) not in a circular motion. Also,
I've
seen good results from using car wax to polish the CD surface (the side
opposite the label.) Lastly, if the label side is scratched deeply, the
CD
may simply be worthless now. That's the side the data actually resides
on.

If the Copy operation goes well, then remove the floppy disk and
reboot. At
the C:\ prompt, type:

md win98
setup

If you still have problems, then report back with details.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"L." wrote in message
...
gigabyte socket A MB ga-7zxe
amd 950 duron
2 newer cd drive-1 burner
agp 32 meg video card
onboard sound

Had some major problems I couldn't correct plus system was really
loaded
down so---.

Reformatted a 40gig HD. format c: /s

When I start to reload WIN98se, the system hangs at
" Windows 98 setup" screen (setup is preparing the win98 setup
wizard-----).
The first time I tried to reload it hung at ~ 32%. Push reset button
and
now
it's hung at ~ 5 % and floppy light is solid green.

Any suggestions please,

PS Before posting, tried again and changed the win98 cd to the other
cd
player. Locked up at 13% with no lights on.
Should I replace the "newer" cd player with an older 24x I have and
try
it?
















  #8  
Old October 15th 05, 03:28 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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Posts: n/a
Default

Well, I have to say that FailSafe settings in BIOS are seldom correct. And
I'm not really the person you need to tell you how to set up BIOS correctly
and to diagnose the video issue -- at least not right now. Just can't seem
to wrap my brain around it. Need sleep...

Anyway, you should probably concentrate on those issues at the moment and
use my copy-files-to-HDD method to simplify things. When it comes down to
it, you can easily resize, move and create/delete partitions without using
FDISK and without destroying data -- that is, it can be done after the fact
using a tool like BootIt NG. But in your shoes, I'd probably FDISK the thing
for now, saying Yes to the large-disk support option, delete the existing
partition, reboot, go back and then create an 8 GB Primary Partition
(8192MB) to install Win98 to. Leave the rest for later, when you're certain
you have a viable system and settings are right. Nothing like installing
Windows to make you get those things adjusted properly.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"L..." wrote in message
...
Seems I'm not the only one with an install problem dealing with a GA-7zx.
Found another entry dated yesterday from Herman.


"L..." wrote in message
...
This older system is used primarily for back up storage for my main

system
AND, just in case, our systems goes down. My wifes system blew a power
supply last month and this old one filled in real nice for a couple of
days.

What I've been doing lately is "playing" with it. I had a 16 meg video
card(AGP) that went out, replaced it with an old 8 meg PCI card I had in

a
"supply box" until I got a replacement(32 meg AGP I took out of my wifes
system and installed a new 64 meg card in her system). Now I can't get

the
system to stay "on" unless I leave the PCI card in a slot but I plug the
monitor into the AGP Nvidia card. If I go into BOIS at startup, the
monitor stays on but as soon as I try to go further, it shuts down. A
friend says I have a bad AGP slot but why would it stay on during

startup
and BIOS screen?
I set BIOS to "fail safe" setting.

That's one thing that started the reformat/reload. Now it's all messed

up
but I can't see getting rid of the system.

SO, it's a tool to learn on and man am I learning, more patience than
anything, but also a good standby/backup.

L.


"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Fdisk is only run to create or delete partitions. If you are satisfied
with your existing partitions, do not run fdisk. For information on
installing W98, go to:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"L..." wrote in message
...
Thanks for the info.
We're going out of town this week-end but will try when I get back
Sunday/Monday.
Just didn't want you to think I forgot.

Do I need to run fdisk before/after formatting?


L.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
What I'd try is to boot to the floppy Startup disk, with CDROM

support,
and
run the following (assumes your CDROM drive is E:\. Edit if

necessary.)
Press Enter at the end of each line. Pay attention to spaces and
punctuation.

c:
md WIN98
e:
cd win98
copy *.* c:\win98

That will put all the necessary files onto your hard drive. It will
also
tell you if the problem is not being able to read files from the CD.

If
you
get errors, then you should try replacing the drive. But it may also

be
due
to the CD itself being scratched or otherwise damaged. If scratches

are
suspected, wipe the CD with a soft cloth using radial strokes (from

the
center of the CD to the outer edge) not in a circular motion. Also,
I've
seen good results from using car wax to polish the CD surface (the

side
opposite the label.) Lastly, if the label side is scratched deeply,

the
CD
may simply be worthless now. That's the side the data actually

resides
on.

If the Copy operation goes well, then remove the floppy disk and
reboot. At
the C:\ prompt, type:

md win98
setup

If you still have problems, then report back with details.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"L." wrote in message
...
gigabyte socket A MB ga-7zxe
amd 950 duron
2 newer cd drive-1 burner
agp 32 meg video card
onboard sound

Had some major problems I couldn't correct plus system was really
loaded
down so---.

Reformatted a 40gig HD. format c: /s

When I start to reload WIN98se, the system hangs at
" Windows 98 setup" screen (setup is preparing the win98 setup
wizard-----).
The first time I tried to reload it hung at ~ 32%. Push reset button
and
now
it's hung at ~ 5 % and floppy light is solid green.

Any suggestions please,

PS Before posting, tried again and changed the win98 cd to the

other
cd
player. Locked up at 13% with no lights on.
Should I replace the "newer" cd player with an older 24x I have and
try
it?


















  #9  
Old October 15th 05, 03:10 PM
L...
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default reinstalling 98se???

Again, thanks for the info.
Getting ready to take off so will follow suggestions when we get back Monday
and let you know what happens.
Something to think about, is there a way to reset BIOS and anything else
back to "factory" settings?

I've got a feeling everything is messed up, BIOS, DRIVERS, etc.etc.etc. and
I'm trying to learn to start everything over. IOW- should I do anything else
before trying to reload Win98se?

Have a good week-end and set some sleep!!


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Well, I have to say that FailSafe settings in BIOS are seldom correct. And
I'm not really the person you need to tell you how to set up BIOS
correctly
and to diagnose the video issue -- at least not right now. Just can't seem
to wrap my brain around it. Need sleep...

Anyway, you should probably concentrate on those issues at the moment and
use my copy-files-to-HDD method to simplify things. When it comes down to
it, you can easily resize, move and create/delete partitions without using
FDISK and without destroying data -- that is, it can be done after the
fact
using a tool like BootIt NG. But in your shoes, I'd probably FDISK the
thing
for now, saying Yes to the large-disk support option, delete the existing
partition, reboot, go back and then create an 8 GB Primary Partition
(8192MB) to install Win98 to. Leave the rest for later, when you're
certain
you have a viable system and settings are right. Nothing like installing
Windows to make you get those things adjusted properly.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"L..." wrote in message
...
Seems I'm not the only one with an install problem dealing with a GA-7zx.
Found another entry dated yesterday from Herman.


"L..." wrote in message
...
This older system is used primarily for back up storage for my main

system
AND, just in case, our systems goes down. My wifes system blew a power
supply last month and this old one filled in real nice for a couple of
days.

What I've been doing lately is "playing" with it. I had a 16 meg video
card(AGP) that went out, replaced it with an old 8 meg PCI card I had
in

a
"supply box" until I got a replacement(32 meg AGP I took out of my
wifes
system and installed a new 64 meg card in her system). Now I can't get

the
system to stay "on" unless I leave the PCI card in a slot but I plug
the
monitor into the AGP Nvidia card. If I go into BOIS at startup, the
monitor stays on but as soon as I try to go further, it shuts down. A
friend says I have a bad AGP slot but why would it stay on during

startup
and BIOS screen?
I set BIOS to "fail safe" setting.

That's one thing that started the reformat/reload. Now it's all messed

up
but I can't see getting rid of the system.

SO, it's a tool to learn on and man am I learning, more patience than
anything, but also a good standby/backup.

L.


"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Fdisk is only run to create or delete partitions. If you are
satisfied
with your existing partitions, do not run fdisk. For information on
installing W98, go to:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"L..." wrote in message
...
Thanks for the info.
We're going out of town this week-end but will try when I get back
Sunday/Monday.
Just didn't want you to think I forgot.

Do I need to run fdisk before/after formatting?


L.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
What I'd try is to boot to the floppy Startup disk, with CDROM

support,
and
run the following (assumes your CDROM drive is E:\. Edit if

necessary.)
Press Enter at the end of each line. Pay attention to spaces and
punctuation.

c:
md WIN98
e:
cd win98
copy *.* c:\win98

That will put all the necessary files onto your hard drive. It will
also
tell you if the problem is not being able to read files from the CD.

If
you
get errors, then you should try replacing the drive. But it may also

be
due
to the CD itself being scratched or otherwise damaged. If scratches

are
suspected, wipe the CD with a soft cloth using radial strokes (from

the
center of the CD to the outer edge) not in a circular motion. Also,
I've
seen good results from using car wax to polish the CD surface (the

side
opposite the label.) Lastly, if the label side is scratched deeply,

the
CD
may simply be worthless now. That's the side the data actually

resides
on.

If the Copy operation goes well, then remove the floppy disk and
reboot. At
the C:\ prompt, type:

md win98
setup

If you still have problems, then report back with details.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"L." wrote in message
...
gigabyte socket A MB ga-7zxe
amd 950 duron
2 newer cd drive-1 burner
agp 32 meg video card
onboard sound

Had some major problems I couldn't correct plus system was really
loaded
down so---.

Reformatted a 40gig HD. format c: /s

When I start to reload WIN98se, the system hangs at
" Windows 98 setup" screen (setup is preparing the win98 setup
wizard-----).
The first time I tried to reload it hung at ~ 32%. Push reset
button
and
now
it's hung at ~ 5 % and floppy light is solid green.

Any suggestions please,

PS Before posting, tried again and changed the win98 cd to the

other
cd
player. Locked up at 13% with no lights on.
Should I replace the "newer" cd player with an older 24x I have and
try
it?




















  #10  
Old October 15th 05, 06:02 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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Default reinstalling 98se???

I've got the manual for that mobo in front of me and it's surprisingly
detailed. Will make a list of settings I *think* should be set, and then
we'll go through them.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"L..." wrote in message
...
Again, thanks for the info.
Getting ready to take off so will follow suggestions when we get back

Monday
and let you know what happens.
Something to think about, is there a way to reset BIOS and anything else
back to "factory" settings?

I've got a feeling everything is messed up, BIOS, DRIVERS, etc.etc.etc.

and
I'm trying to learn to start everything over. IOW- should I do anything

else
before trying to reload Win98se?

Have a good week-end and set some sleep!!


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Well, I have to say that FailSafe settings in BIOS are seldom correct.

And
I'm not really the person you need to tell you how to set up BIOS
correctly
and to diagnose the video issue -- at least not right now. Just can't

seem
to wrap my brain around it. Need sleep...

Anyway, you should probably concentrate on those issues at the moment

and
use my copy-files-to-HDD method to simplify things. When it comes down

to
it, you can easily resize, move and create/delete partitions without

using
FDISK and without destroying data -- that is, it can be done after the
fact
using a tool like BootIt NG. But in your shoes, I'd probably FDISK the
thing
for now, saying Yes to the large-disk support option, delete the

existing
partition, reboot, go back and then create an 8 GB Primary Partition
(8192MB) to install Win98 to. Leave the rest for later, when you're
certain
you have a viable system and settings are right. Nothing like installing
Windows to make you get those things adjusted properly.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"L..." wrote in message
...
Seems I'm not the only one with an install problem dealing with a

GA-7zx.
Found another entry dated yesterday from Herman.


"L..." wrote in message
...
This older system is used primarily for back up storage for my main

system
AND, just in case, our systems goes down. My wifes system blew a

power
supply last month and this old one filled in real nice for a couple

of
days.

What I've been doing lately is "playing" with it. I had a 16 meg

video
card(AGP) that went out, replaced it with an old 8 meg PCI card I had
in

a
"supply box" until I got a replacement(32 meg AGP I took out of my
wifes
system and installed a new 64 meg card in her system). Now I can't

get
the
system to stay "on" unless I leave the PCI card in a slot but I plug
the
monitor into the AGP Nvidia card. If I go into BOIS at startup, the
monitor stays on but as soon as I try to go further, it shuts down. A
friend says I have a bad AGP slot but why would it stay on during

startup
and BIOS screen?
I set BIOS to "fail safe" setting.

That's one thing that started the reformat/reload. Now it's all

messed
up
but I can't see getting rid of the system.

SO, it's a tool to learn on and man am I learning, more patience than
anything, but also a good standby/backup.

L.


"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Fdisk is only run to create or delete partitions. If you are
satisfied
with your existing partitions, do not run fdisk. For information on
installing W98, go to:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"L..." wrote in message
...
Thanks for the info.
We're going out of town this week-end but will try when I get back
Sunday/Monday.
Just didn't want you to think I forgot.

Do I need to run fdisk before/after formatting?


L.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
What I'd try is to boot to the floppy Startup disk, with CDROM

support,
and
run the following (assumes your CDROM drive is E:\. Edit if

necessary.)
Press Enter at the end of each line. Pay attention to spaces and
punctuation.

c:
md WIN98
e:
cd win98
copy *.* c:\win98

That will put all the necessary files onto your hard drive. It

will
also
tell you if the problem is not being able to read files from the

CD.
If
you
get errors, then you should try replacing the drive. But it may

also
be
due
to the CD itself being scratched or otherwise damaged. If

scratches
are
suspected, wipe the CD with a soft cloth using radial strokes

(from
the
center of the CD to the outer edge) not in a circular motion.

Also,
I've
seen good results from using car wax to polish the CD surface (the

side
opposite the label.) Lastly, if the label side is scratched

deeply,
the
CD
may simply be worthless now. That's the side the data actually

resides
on.

If the Copy operation goes well, then remove the floppy disk and
reboot. At
the C:\ prompt, type:

md win98
setup

If you still have problems, then report back with details.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"L." wrote in message
...
gigabyte socket A MB ga-7zxe
amd 950 duron
2 newer cd drive-1 burner
agp 32 meg video card
onboard sound

Had some major problems I couldn't correct plus system was really
loaded
down so---.

Reformatted a 40gig HD. format c: /s

When I start to reload WIN98se, the system hangs at
" Windows 98 setup" screen (setup is preparing the win98 setup
wizard-----).
The first time I tried to reload it hung at ~ 32%. Push reset
button
and
now
it's hung at ~ 5 % and floppy light is solid green.

Any suggestions please,

PS Before posting, tried again and changed the win98 cd to the

other
cd
player. Locked up at 13% with no lights on.
Should I replace the "newer" cd player with an older 24x I have

and
try
it?






















 




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