Start up turns into Set-up Wizard

Ben had a good idea. Have also you tried the Bootlog option on the
menu? If not, try that then look at the Bootlog.txt file in the root
with Notepad. See what's there after the mouse loads, it should be
near the bottom of the file. You could copy/paste from the mouse
down and post it.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
____________________________________________

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:37:04 -0700, "Boone"
wrote:

Ben,

Thanks for jumping in here. All help is greatly appreciated!

Running a step-by-step boot results in the following:

Process System Registry
Startup log (bootlog.txt)
Device= C:\Windows\Himem.sys
Device=C:|Windwos\DBLBuff.sys
Device=C:|Windwos\IFSHLP.sys

Process Startup comand file (autoexec.bat)
[Here it individually selects each line in the autoexec file]
Win
Load all windows drivers
vnetsup.vxd
ndis.vxd
ndis2sup.vxd
javasup.vxd
C:\Windows\System\vrtwd.386
C:\Windows\System\vfixd.vxd
vnetbios.vxd
c:\Progra~1\Cyberm~1\cmapieng.vxd
c:\Progra~1\Cyberm~1\cyberkrn.vxd
c:\Progra~1\Cyberm~1\vshinit.vxd
vgartd.vxd
vredir.vxd
dfs.vxd
msmouse.vxd

[...and at this point the PC boots to the Win98 Set-up Wizard]

Any ideas???

Thanks.
- Andrew

"Ben Myers" wrote:

Try starting the computer using "Step by step confirmation"(tap the F8 key
repeatedly during bootup). This should show which part of the bootup
process is being executed when the setup program is started.

Ben

....and when you attempt the clean boot, you open msconfig, on the General tab click
Selective Startup, and uncheck these items:
Process config.sys
Process autoexec.bat
Process Winstart.bat (if it is not greyed)
Load Startup group items
Click OK, then restart
and you still get the Setup Wizard upon restarting....correct?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Boone" wrote in message
...
Glen,

just thought I'd let you know that dragging the items from the starup folder
prevented them from re-enabling themselves. The only item that was not in
the star-up folder was EnsoniqMixer, this did re-enable itself eventhough I
had disabled it in msconfig.

I look forward to your suggestion. Thanks.

Andrew

"glee" wrote:

I don't understand why any of these are re-enabling themselves...they
should not be.
All of them are shortcuts in the StartUp folder (Start Menu Programs
StartUp).....drag the shortcuts out of that folder and drop them on the
Desktop for
now, and restart in Safe Mode. They should not re-enable themselves. Post
back
with the results.

Glen,

That is correct. The only items checked in msconfg a
system.ini
win.ini

Startup itms is not checked, though it is partially selected after
attempting to boot the PC as Ensoniqmixer auto-enables itself.

- Andrew

"glee" wrote:

....and when you attempt the clean boot, you open msconfig, on the General tab click
Selective Startup, and uncheck these items:
Process config.sys
Process autoexec.bat
Process Winstart.bat (if it is not greyed)
Load Startup group items
Click OK, then restart
and you still get the Setup Wizard upon restarting....correct?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Boone" wrote in message
...
Glen,

just thought I'd let you know that dragging the items from the starup folder
prevented them from re-enabling themselves. The only item that was not in
the star-up folder was EnsoniqMixer, this did re-enable itself eventhough I
had disabled it in msconfig.

I look forward to your suggestion. Thanks.

Andrew

"glee" wrote:

I don't understand why any of these are re-enabling themselves...they
should not be.
All of them are shortcuts in the StartUp folder (Start Menu Programs
StartUp).....drag the shortcuts out of that folder and drop them on the
Desktop for
now, and restart in Safe Mode. They should not re-enable themselves. Post
back
with the results.

See if you can get rid of the Symantec installer information by using the Windows
Installer Cleanup Utility:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=290301

" The Windows Installer CleanUp Utility does not:
• Remove Windows Installer.
• Remove files of any programs that are installed by Windows Installer,
such as Microsoft Office 2003.

The Windows Installer CleanUp Utility does:
• Provide a dialog box where you can select one or more programs that
were installed by Windows Installer. You select the programs on the
Installed Products list in the Windows Installer CleanUp dialog box.
After you make this selection, the utility removes only the Windows
Installer configuration information that is related to those programs.
• Remove the files and registry settings that make up the Windows
Installer configuration information for programs that you select.
If you use this utility to remove the Windows Installer configuration
information for your program and you plan to reinstall the program, you
should reinstall the program in the same folder where you originally
installed it. This prevents duplication of files on your hard disk or
disks. "

The Setup Wizard may be appearing due to corrupted or damaged files in the
WINDOWS\Installer folder.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx


"Boone" wrote in message
...
Glen,

That is correct. The only items checked in msconfg a
system.ini
win.ini

Startup itms is not checked, though it is partially selected after
attempting to boot the PC as Ensoniqmixer auto-enables itself.

- Andrew

"glee" wrote:

....and when you attempt the clean boot, you open msconfig, on the General tab
click
Selective Startup, and uncheck these items:
Process config.sys
Process autoexec.bat
Process Winstart.bat (if it is not greyed)
Load Startup group items
Click OK, then restart
and you still get the Setup Wizard upon restarting....correct?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Boone" wrote in message
...
Glen,

just thought I'd let you know that dragging the items from the starup folder
prevented them from re-enabling themselves. The only item that was not in
the star-up folder was EnsoniqMixer, this did re-enable itself eventhough I
had disabled it in msconfig.

I look forward to your suggestion. Thanks.

Andrew

"glee" wrote:

I don't understand why any of these are re-enabling themselves...they
should not be.
All of them are shortcuts in the StartUp folder (Start Menu Programs
StartUp).....drag the shortcuts out of that folder and drop them on the
Desktop for
now, and restart in Safe Mode. They should not re-enable themselves. Post
back
with the results.

Start the computer in Safe mode, then start Windows Explorer, find
and double-click the following files:

C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\PowerReg Scheduler.exe
C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe=20
c:\windows\GWHotKey.exe
C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
c:\windows\mstask.exe
c:\windows\Rundll32.exe=20
c:\windows\starter.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
c:\windows\system\SysTray.Exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\wucrtupd.exe=20
C:\PROGRAM FILES\NETWORK ASSOCIATES\MCAFEE VIRUSSCAN\VSHWIN32.EXE
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA.EXE
C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\refresh.exe
C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\IOWATCH.EXE
C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\IMGSTART.EXE
C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\IMGICON.exe
C:\Program Files\Intruder Alert 99\ia99.exe

If nothing unusual happens, expand and highlight "c:\windows\tasks",=20
then right-click each item in the right window and select "Run".

Ben

"Boone" wrote in message =
...
Ben,
=20
Thanks for jumping in here. All help is greatly appreciated!
=20
Running a step-by-step boot results in the following:
=20
Process System Registry
Startup log (bootlog.txt)
Device=3D C:\Windows\Himem.sys
Device=3DC:|Windwos\DBLBuff.sys
Device=3DC:|Windwos\IFSHLP.sys
=20
Process Startup comand file (autoexec.bat)
[Here it individually selects each line in the autoexec file]
Win
Load all windows drivers
vnetsup.vxd
ndis.vxd
ndis2sup.vxd
javasup.vxd
C:\Windows\System\vrtwd.386
C:\Windows\System\vfixd.vxd
vnetbios.vxd
c:\Progra~1\Cyberm~1\cmapieng.vxd
c:\Progra~1\Cyberm~1\cyberkrn.vxd
c:\Progra~1\Cyberm~1\vshinit.vxd
vgartd.vxd
vredir.vxd
dfs.vxd
msmouse.vxd
=20
[...and at this point the PC boots to the Win98 Set-up Wizard]
=20
Any ideas???
=20
Thanks.
- Andrew
=20
"Ben Myers" wrote:
=20
Try starting the computer using "Step by step confirmation"(tap the =
F8 key
repeatedly during bootup). This should show which part of the =
bootup
process is being executed when the setup program is started.
=20
Ben

Bill,

Thanks for the suggestion:

When I do an F8Bootlog.txt start the PC fails (goes into Win98 Set-up
Wizard). Cancelling out of that causes the PC to shut down, so I then have
to start in Safe Mode.

The result is that the Bootlog.txt file is for the second start in Safe Mode
(I think), but there is another bootlog.prv which from the .prv extension and
date-time stamp is from the Bootlog.txt start-up attempt.

Below is the info you suggested looking at:

Init = Mouse
Status = Mouse driver installed
InitDone = Mouse
Init =
LoadStart = atm32.dll
LoadSuccess = atm32.dll
LoadStart = DISPLAY.drv
LoadSuccess = DISPLAY.drv
LoadStart = V128SYS.DLL
LoadSuccess = V128SYS.DLL
InitDone = DISPLAY
Init = Display Resources
InitDone = Display Resources
LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\serife.fon
LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\serife.fon
LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\sserife.fon
LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\sserife.fon
LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\coure.fon
LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\coure.fon
LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\symbole.fon
LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\symbole.fon
LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\smalle.fon
LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\smalle.fon
LoadStart = DIBENG.DLL
LoadSuccess = DIBENG.DLL
LoadStart = DIBENG.drv
LoadSuccess = DIBENG.drv
LoadStart = TOOLHELP.DLL
LoadSuccess = TOOLHELP.DLL
LoadSuccess = user.exe
LoadStart = MSGSRV32.EXE
LoadSuccess = MSGSRV32.EXE
Init = Final USER
InitDone = Final USER
Init = Installable Drivers
InitDone = Installable Drivers
Init = TSRQuery
InitDone = TSRQuery
Terminate = User
Terminate = Query Drivers
EndTerminate = Query Drivers
Terminate = Unload Network
EndTerminate = Unload Network
Terminate = Reset Display
EndTerminate = Reset Display
EndTerminate = User

Does anything stand out to you? Thanks for the help.

Andrew

"Bill Watt" wrote:


Ben had a good idea. Have also you tried the Bootlog option on the
menu? If not, try that then look at the Bootlog.txt file in the root
with Notepad. See what's there after the mouse loads, it should be
near the bottom of the file. You could copy/paste from the mouse
down and post it.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
____________________________________________

Most of these did nothing noticible.

A couple of comments:
C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\PowerReg Scheduler.exe
Was located in C:\...\Disabled Startup Items
c:\windows\mstask.exe
Was located in C:\windows\system\
C:\PROGRAM FILES\NETWORK ASSOCIATES\MCAFEE
Was missing entirely
C:\Program Files\Intruder Alert 99\ia99.exe
Was missing emtirely

[Not that I expect it makes much difference.]

I also did your suggestion to Run all the items in c:windows\tasks
Most started and then shut down immediately. Except for:
Maintenance and Cleanup which Run

Comments? Thanks for you input.

Andrew


"Ben Myers" wrote:

Start the computer in Safe mode, then start Windows Explorer, find
and double-click the following files:

C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\PowerReg Scheduler.exe
C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe
c:\windows\GWHotKey.exe
C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
c:\windows\mstask.exe
c:\windows\Rundll32.exe
c:\windows\starter.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
c:\windows\system\SysTray.Exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB891711\KB891711.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\wucrtupd.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\NETWORK ASSOCIATES\MCAFEE VIRUSSCAN\VSHWIN32.EXE
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA.EXE
C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\refresh.exe
C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\IOWATCH.EXE
C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\IMGSTART.EXE
C:\Program Files\Iomega\Tools\IMGICON.exe
C:\Program Files\Intruder Alert 99\ia99.exe

If nothing unusual happens, expand and highlight "c:\windows\tasks",
then right-click each item in the right window and select "Run".

Ben

"Boone" wrote in message ...
Ben,

Thanks for jumping in here. All help is greatly appreciated!

Running a step-by-step boot results in the following:

Process System Registry
Startup log (bootlog.txt)
Device= C:\Windows\Himem.sys
Device=C:|Windwos\DBLBuff.sys
Device=C:|Windwos\IFSHLP.sys

Process Startup comand file (autoexec.bat)
[Here it individually selects each line in the autoexec file]
Win
Load all windows drivers
vnetsup.vxd
ndis.vxd
ndis2sup.vxd
javasup.vxd
C:\Windows\System\vrtwd.386
C:\Windows\System\vfixd.vxd
vnetbios.vxd
c:\Progra~1\Cyberm~1\cmapieng.vxd
c:\Progra~1\Cyberm~1\cyberkrn.vxd
c:\Progra~1\Cyberm~1\vshinit.vxd
vgartd.vxd
vredir.vxd
dfs.vxd
msmouse.vxd

[...and at this point the PC boots to the Win98 Set-up Wizard]

Any ideas???

Thanks.
- Andrew

"Ben Myers" wrote:

Try starting the computer using "Step by step confirmation"(tap the F8 key
repeatedly during bootup). This should show which part of the bootup
process is being executed when the setup program is started.

Ben

Glen,

Thanks for the suggestion.

In Safe Mode I installed Installer Cleanup, and ran it from
StartProgramsMS Installer Cleanup. The only items listed we
Installer Cleanup
XML Parser & SDK

So, I was unable to clean any additional Program Installation info.

Ideas? Thanks.

Andrew

"glee" wrote:

See if you can get rid of the Symantec installer information by using the Windows
Installer Cleanup Utility:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=290301

" The Windows Installer CleanUp Utility does not:
• Remove Windows Installer.
• Remove files of any programs that are installed by Windows Installer,
such as Microsoft Office 2003.

The Windows Installer CleanUp Utility does:
• Provide a dialog box where you can select one or more programs that
were installed by Windows Installer. You select the programs on the
Installed Products list in the Windows Installer CleanUp dialog box.
After you make this selection, the utility removes only the Windows
Installer configuration information that is related to those programs.
• Remove the files and registry settings that make up the Windows
Installer configuration information for programs that you select.
If you use this utility to remove the Windows Installer configuration
information for your program and you plan to reinstall the program, you
should reinstall the program in the same folder where you originally
installed it. This prevents duplication of files on your hard disk or
disks. "

The Setup Wizard may be appearing due to corrupted or damaged files in the
WINDOWS\Installer folder.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx

The patch I suggested reinstalling is only 665 KB....download it on another
computer, copy it to a floppy, and transport it to the problem computer, then
reinstall it there.

Windows Script 5.6 for Windows 98, Windows Millennium Edition, and Windows NT 4.0:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx


"Boone" wrote in message
...
Glen,

Thanks for the suggestion.

In Safe Mode I installed Installer Cleanup, and ran it from
StartProgramsMS Installer Cleanup. The only items listed we
Installer Cleanup
XML Parser & SDK

So, I was unable to clean any additional Program Installation info.

Ideas? Thanks.

Andrew

"glee" wrote:

See if you can get rid of the Symantec installer information by using the
Windows
Installer Cleanup Utility:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=290301

" The Windows Installer CleanUp Utility does not:
• Remove Windows Installer.
• Remove files of any programs that are installed by Windows Installer,
such as Microsoft Office 2003.

The Windows Installer CleanUp Utility does:
• Provide a dialog box where you can select one or more programs that
were installed by Windows Installer. You select the programs on the
Installed Products list in the Windows Installer CleanUp dialog box.
After you make this selection, the utility removes only the Windows
Installer configuration information that is related to those programs.
• Remove the files and registry settings that make up the Windows
Installer configuration information for programs that you select.
If you use this utility to remove the Windows Installer configuration
information for your program and you plan to reinstall the program, you
should reinstall the program in the same folder where you originally
installed it. This prevents duplication of files on your hard disk or
disks. "

The Setup Wizard may be appearing due to corrupted or damaged files in the
WINDOWS\Installer folder.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx

Done. Sorry to say, it had no effect. Ideas? Thanks.

Andrew

"glee" wrote:

The patch I suggested reinstalling is only 665 KB....download it on another
computer, copy it to a floppy, and transport it to the problem computer, then
reinstall it there.

Windows Script 5.6 for Windows 98, Windows Millennium Edition, and Windows NT 4.0:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx