network setup wizard

Thankyou,

Will let you know how I get on.

Steve
"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote in message
news
In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Since my first reply to your instruction, I have had a play and have
looked
inside my routers for some information.

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I
left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the
usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new
wireless
router.

I still do not have internet on the winXP upstairs.

As I say, I had a look "inside" the broadband router. I run a test to
see if
it was connected to the internet (as I new it was), so I could extract
theh
"numbers".

It listed "ping default gateway" as 217.**.***.***and "ping primary
DNS" as
217.**.***.* .

I then went up to the winXP PC and in command prompt I entered ping
the
default gateway numbers from the router - 217. etc, and got a reply -
or
four infact.
Same for primary dns -. four replies.

But when I followed your instructions and ran the "network connection
details" :-

all look okay
but dns server is 0.0.0.0

got replies from:-

ip address
default gateway
but dns server is invalid

As you can see it said DNS server is 0.0.0.0
and when I pinged 0.0.0.0 it said DNS is invalid

Don't know if this helps, so can you take the lead on this.

Can I point out that I am just a beginner at this computer stuff (a
real
beginner), and do not know very much at all.

Which is why you guy's (and girls) are so amazing

Many thanks Steve (and Beryl)

You're welcome. You've found the problem: the invalid DNS server
address on the upstairs computer.

Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.

If you assign that computer's IP address manually, you also have to
assign its DNS server address. Use the 217.**.***.* value.

Thank you so much,

Could you advise on where and how I should do this.

You're welcome. To configure the network connection:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right-click LAN connection.
3. Click Properties.
4. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".
5. Click Properties.

To have your router assign all the values, click "Obtain an IP address
automatically" and "Obtain DNS server address automatically".

To manually assign the values, click "Use the following IP address"
and "Use the following DNS server addresses" and enter the values.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Hi Steve,

Thanks again for the info.

******Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.******

The xp machine was already checked for this, for some reason it was not
working.

So I entered the values manually, and do you know what!!, as if by magic I
could connect to the internet, YAHOO!!

I have un-entered the values just for now until I load in some anti-virus,
so my 'puter does not get eaten alive.

I have been looking at encapsulation, my wireless router is warning me that
it is switched off, I can see where to configure it inside the router,
but cannot find where to do it upstairs on the xp pc. We have a belkin
wireless G network card, but I can't see how to deal with the encapsulation
that end.

Could you point me in the right direction.

Many thanks Steve


"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote in message
news
In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Since my first reply to your instruction, I have had a play and have
looked
inside my routers for some information.

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I
left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the
usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new
wireless
router.

I still do not have internet on the winXP upstairs.

As I say, I had a look "inside" the broadband router. I run a test to
see if
it was connected to the internet (as I new it was), so I could extract
theh
"numbers".

It listed "ping default gateway" as 217.**.***.***and "ping primary
DNS" as
217.**.***.* .

I then went up to the winXP PC and in command prompt I entered ping
the
default gateway numbers from the router - 217. etc, and got a reply -
or
four infact.
Same for primary dns -. four replies.

But when I followed your instructions and ran the "network connection
details" :-

all look okay
but dns server is 0.0.0.0

got replies from:-

ip address
default gateway
but dns server is invalid

As you can see it said DNS server is 0.0.0.0
and when I pinged 0.0.0.0 it said DNS is invalid

Don't know if this helps, so can you take the lead on this.

Can I point out that I am just a beginner at this computer stuff (a
real
beginner), and do not know very much at all.

Which is why you guy's (and girls) are so amazing

Many thanks Steve (and Beryl)

You're welcome. You've found the problem: the invalid DNS server
address on the upstairs computer.

Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.

If you assign that computer's IP address manually, you also have to
assign its DNS server address. Use the 217.**.***.* value.

Thank you so much,

Could you advise on where and how I should do this.

You're welcome. To configure the network connection:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right-click LAN connection.
3. Click Properties.
4. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".
5. Click Properties.

To have your router assign all the values, click "Obtain an IP address
automatically" and "Obtain DNS server address automatically".

To manually assign the values, click "Use the following IP address"
and "Use the following DNS server addresses" and enter the values.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Hi Steve,

Thanks again for the info.

******Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.******

The xp machine was already checked for this, for some reason it was not
working.

So I entered the values manually, and do you know what!!, as if by magic I
could connect to the internet, YAHOO!!

I have un-entered the values just for now until I load in some anti-virus,
so my 'puter does not get eaten alive.

I have been looking at encapsulation, my wireless router is warning me that
it is switched off, I can see where to configure it inside the router,
but cannot find where to do it upstairs on the xp pc. We have a belkin
wireless G network card, but I can't see how to deal with the encapsulation
that end.

Could you point me in the right direction.

Many thanks Steve


"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote in message
news
In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Since my first reply to your instruction, I have had a play and have
looked
inside my routers for some information.

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I
left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the
usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new
wireless
router.

I still do not have internet on the winXP upstairs.

As I say, I had a look "inside" the broadband router. I run a test to
see if
it was connected to the internet (as I new it was), so I could extract
theh
"numbers".

It listed "ping default gateway" as 217.**.***.***and "ping primary
DNS" as
217.**.***.* .

I then went up to the winXP PC and in command prompt I entered ping
the
default gateway numbers from the router - 217. etc, and got a reply -
or
four infact.
Same for primary dns -. four replies.

But when I followed your instructions and ran the "network connection
details" :-

all look okay
but dns server is 0.0.0.0

got replies from:-

ip address
default gateway
but dns server is invalid

As you can see it said DNS server is 0.0.0.0
and when I pinged 0.0.0.0 it said DNS is invalid

Don't know if this helps, so can you take the lead on this.

Can I point out that I am just a beginner at this computer stuff (a
real
beginner), and do not know very much at all.

Which is why you guy's (and girls) are so amazing

Many thanks Steve (and Beryl)

You're welcome. You've found the problem: the invalid DNS server
address on the upstairs computer.

Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.

If you assign that computer's IP address manually, you also have to
assign its DNS server address. Use the 217.**.***.* value.

Thank you so much,

Could you advise on where and how I should do this.

You're welcome. To configure the network connection:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right-click LAN connection.
3. Click Properties.
4. Click "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)".
5. Click Properties.

To have your router assign all the values, click "Obtain an IP address
automatically" and "Obtain DNS server address automatically".

To manually assign the values, click "Use the following IP address"
and "Use the following DNS server addresses" and enter the values.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Thanks again for the info.

******Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.******

The xp machine was already checked for this, for some reason it was not
working.

So I entered the values manually, and do you know what!!, as if by magic I
could connect to the internet, YAHOO!!

I have un-entered the values just for now until I load in some anti-virus,
so my 'puter does not get eaten alive.

I have been looking at encapsulation, my wireless router is warning me that
it is switched off, I can see where to configure it inside the router,
but cannot find where to do it upstairs on the xp pc. We have a belkin
wireless G network card, but I can't see how to deal with the encapsulation
that end.

Could you point me in the right direction.

Many thanks Steve

You're welcome, Steve.

I'm sorry, but I don't know what encapsulation is, and I've never
heard of a setting for it in Windows. Please say more about what it
is an why you're asking about it. What exactly is your wireless
router saying, and what make/model is it?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Thanks again for the info.

******Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.******

The xp machine was already checked for this, for some reason it was not
working.

So I entered the values manually, and do you know what!!, as if by magic I
could connect to the internet, YAHOO!!

I have un-entered the values just for now until I load in some anti-virus,
so my 'puter does not get eaten alive.

I have been looking at encapsulation, my wireless router is warning me that
it is switched off, I can see where to configure it inside the router,
but cannot find where to do it upstairs on the xp pc. We have a belkin
wireless G network card, but I can't see how to deal with the encapsulation
that end.

Could you point me in the right direction.

Many thanks Steve

You're welcome, Steve.

I'm sorry, but I don't know what encapsulation is, and I've never
heard of a setting for it in Windows. Please say more about what it
is an why you're asking about it. What exactly is your wireless
router saying, and what make/model is it?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:35:21 -0700, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
wrote:

I'm sorry, but I don't know what encapsulation is, and I've never
heard of a setting for it in Windows. Please say more about what it
is an why you're asking about it. What exactly is your wireless
router saying, and what make/model is it?

He means encryption.

Jim.

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:35:21 -0700, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
wrote:

I'm sorry, but I don't know what encapsulation is, and I've never
heard of a setting for it in Windows. Please say more about what it
is an why you're asking about it. What exactly is your wireless
router saying, and what make/model is it?

He means encryption.

Jim.

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:55:02 -0000, "Moonraker"
wrote:

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new wireless
router.

And this is likely where your problem with nameservers lies.

These two routers will probably both be running dhcp servers by
default and they may be conflicting. The one which knows the isp
nameserver information is the broadband router. If your network is
getting ip's allocated by the wireless router then the dns information
won't be passed on.

If you don't want to continue to use static addressing you need to
switch off dhcp on the wireless router.


Jim.

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:55:02 -0000, "Moonraker"
wrote:

Firstly, can I mention that when I connected our wireless network up, I left
our existing broadband router connected to the phone line, removed the usb
cable to the win98 PC and connected the broadband router to the new wireless
router.

And this is likely where your problem with nameservers lies.

These two routers will probably both be running dhcp servers by
default and they may be conflicting. The one which knows the isp
nameserver information is the broadband router. If your network is
getting ip's allocated by the wireless router then the dns information
won't be passed on.

If you don't want to continue to use static addressing you need to
switch off dhcp on the wireless router.


Jim.

Hi Steve.

"He means encryption".

Jim.

Yes, sorry I do mean encryption - it was late last night, or early in the
morning by then, my apologies.

Yes, as I said I can see what to do in the wireless router, but can't for
the life of me see where to enable it in the belkin wireless network card,
or anywhere on the XP PC.

I could do with a general direction to look in.

Many thanks to you all, I would not be without you.

Steve

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote in message
...
In article , "Moonraker"
wrote:
Hi Steve,

Thanks again for the info.

******Configure that computer's network connection to obtain both its IP
address and its DNS server address automatically. The router should
assign the right values to it.******

The xp machine was already checked for this, for some reason it was not
working.

So I entered the values manually, and do you know what!!, as if by magic
I
could connect to the internet, YAHOO!!

I have un-entered the values just for now until I load in some
anti-virus,
so my 'puter does not get eaten alive.

I have been looking at encapsulation, my wireless router is warning me
that
it is switched off, I can see where to configure it inside the router,
but cannot find where to do it upstairs on the xp pc. We have a belkin
wireless G network card, but I can't see how to deal with the
encapsulation
that end.

Could you point me in the right direction.

Many thanks Steve

You're welcome, Steve.

I'm sorry, but I don't know what encapsulation is, and I've never
heard of a setting for it in Windows. Please say more about what it
is an why you're asking about it. What exactly is your wireless
router saying, and what make/model is it?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm