After IE closing slow program open

Hi!

Please, is there any explanation/cure for this problem on a fully updated
Win98SE with IE6.0SP1?

After closing the reboot fresh quickly opening IE, all the program openings,
incl. IE itself, will get extremely slow, i.e. upon opening of any program
there seems to be a 1+ minute wait for something before anything begin to
happen ...

This problem did pop-up some 10 days ago, and thus I somehow doubt the
recent KB908519 hotfix.

After trying/testing several fixes nothing seems to solve the problem, but
as a note, after refreshing the Desktop Icon Cache, by changing the Icon size
from 32 to 28 or vice versa, the openings seem to get back to the normal
quick speed, but just after closing the IE once again they'll slow down to
the 1+ minute wait status. The Icon Cache size seems to be set as 8192 in
the Registry.


Thanks in advance, any comments/hints are appreciated.


Best regards,

Pete V.

Hi!

After still re-testing this case, I have got the feeling, that the problem
point is somewhere around the Icon Cache, i.e.

1. before opening the IE, or having one IE window open, you may open/close
any program without any problems, even the second/third etc. IE window
2. upon closing the last remaining IE window the Icon Cache will be
"ruined" and it should be rebuild before the next program opening could be
done, and now having to wait for some timeout the rebuild would be begun/done
taking some 1+ minutes
3. you may do the Icon Cache rebuild by yourself, taking some 2-3 seconds,
and through that you'll get to the good working status as also by the 1+
minutes wait for the first program opening, or, of course by rebooting, and
get once again to the point 1. status


Does this make any sense on this?


Best regards,

Pete V.





"PeteV" wrote:

Hi!

Please, is there any explanation/cure for this problem on a fully updated
Win98SE with IE6.0SP1?

After closing the reboot fresh quickly opening IE, all the program openings,
incl. IE itself, will get extremely slow, i.e. upon opening of any program
there seems to be a 1+ minute wait for something before anything begin to
happen ...

This problem did pop-up some 10 days ago, and thus I somehow doubt the
recent KB908519 hotfix.

After trying/testing several fixes nothing seems to solve the problem, but
as a note, after refreshing the Desktop Icon Cache, by changing the Icon size
from 32 to 28 or vice versa, the openings seem to get back to the normal
quick speed, but just after closing the IE once again they'll slow down to
the 1+ minute wait status. The Icon Cache size seems to be set as 8192 in
the Registry.


Thanks in advance, any comments/hints are appreciated.


Best regards,

Pete V.

It could be 8192 is too large for the ShellIconCache. Set it to 4096...

This is how to adjust the ShellIconCache size. It may go as high as
4096. (Well, some say 8192.) It has cured, for me, a sluggishness of the
drawing of icons, inside Explorer & My Documents (the small ones to left
of file names).

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\explorer
Max Cached Icons 4096 (String value)

1. START; Run; Type "RegEdit" & Enter
2. Click the plus (+) signs in the left pane,
starting left of "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE",
& ending left of "CurrentVersion".
3. Finally, click the key "explorer" in the left pane (not it's plus
sign).
4. In the right pane, R-Clk an empty area; point to "new"; select
"string value"; type or paste "Max Cached Icons" & Enter.
5. R-Clk "Max Cached Icons"; select "Modify"; enter "4096" & click OK.
6. Close RegEdit & reboot.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PeteV" wrote in message ...
| Hi!
|
| After still re-testing this case, I have got the feeling, that the problem
| point is somewhere around the Icon Cache, i.e.
|
| 1. before opening the IE, or having one IE window open, you may open/close
| any program without any problems, even the second/third etc. IE window
| 2. upon closing the last remaining IE window the Icon Cache will be
| "ruined" and it should be rebuild before the next program opening could be
| done, and now having to wait for some timeout the rebuild would be begun/done
| taking some 1+ minutes
| 3. you may do the Icon Cache rebuild by yourself, taking some 2-3 seconds,
| and through that you'll get to the good working status as also by the 1+
| minutes wait for the first program opening, or, of course by rebooting, and
| get once again to the point 1. status
|
|
| Does this make any sense on this?
|
|
| Best regards,
|
| Pete V.
|
|
|
|
|
| "PeteV" wrote:
|
| Hi!
|
| Please, is there any explanation/cure for this problem on a fully updated
| Win98SE with IE6.0SP1?
|
| After closing the reboot fresh quickly opening IE, all the program openings,
| incl. IE itself, will get extremely slow, i.e. upon opening of any program
| there seems to be a 1+ minute wait for something before anything begin to
| happen ...
|
| This problem did pop-up some 10 days ago, and thus I somehow doubt the
| recent KB908519 hotfix.
|
| After trying/testing several fixes nothing seems to solve the problem, but
| as a note, after refreshing the Desktop Icon Cache, by changing the Icon size
| from 32 to 28 or vice versa, the openings seem to get back to the normal
| quick speed, but just after closing the IE once again they'll slow down to
| the 1+ minute wait status. The Icon Cache size seems to be set as 8192 in
| the Registry.
|
|
| Thanks in advance, any comments/hints are appreciated.
|
|
| Best regards,
|
| Pete V.
|

Hi!

Thanks for the reply.

I did test with some 6 different Icon Cache sizes from 0 to 8192, but there
wasn't seen any affect at all to this problem, sorry ...

It seems then Icon Cache lead is not the right one for this problem, please,
check my other post below for explaining the status for this case.


Best regards,

Pete V.


"PCR" wrote:

It could be 8192 is too large for the ShellIconCache. Set it to 4096...

This is how to adjust the ShellIconCache size. It may go as high as
4096. (Well, some say 8192.) It has cured, for me, a sluggishness of the
drawing of icons, inside Explorer & My Documents (the small ones to left
of file names).

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\explorer
Max Cached Icons 4096 (String value)

1. START; Run; Type "RegEdit" & Enter
2. Click the plus (+) signs in the left pane,
starting left of "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE",
& ending left of "CurrentVersion".
3. Finally, click the key "explorer" in the left pane (not it's plus
sign).
4. In the right pane, R-Clk an empty area; point to "new"; select
"string value"; type or paste "Max Cached Icons" & Enter.
5. R-Clk "Max Cached Icons"; select "Modify"; enter "4096" & click OK.
6. Close RegEdit & reboot.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PeteV" wrote in message ...
| Hi!
|
| After still re-testing this case, I have got the feeling, that the problem
| point is somewhere around the Icon Cache, i.e.
|
| 1. before opening the IE, or having one IE window open, you may open/close
| any program without any problems, even the second/third etc. IE window
| 2. upon closing the last remaining IE window the Icon Cache will be
| "ruined" and it should be rebuild before the next program opening could be
| done, and now having to wait for some timeout the rebuild would be begun/done
| taking some 1+ minutes
| 3. you may do the Icon Cache rebuild by yourself, taking some 2-3 seconds,
| and through that you'll get to the good working status as also by the 1+
| minutes wait for the first program opening, or, of course by rebooting, and
| get once again to the point 1. status
|
|
| Does this make any sense on this?
|
|
| Best regards,
|
| Pete V.
|
|
|
|
|
| "PeteV" wrote:
|
| Hi!
|
| Please, is there any explanation/cure for this problem on a fully updated
| Win98SE with IE6.0SP1?
|
| After closing the reboot fresh quickly opening IE, all the program openings,
| incl. IE itself, will get extremely slow, i.e. upon opening of any program
| there seems to be a 1+ minute wait for something before anything begin to
| happen ...
|
| This problem did pop-up some 10 days ago, and thus I somehow doubt the
| recent KB908519 hotfix.
|
| After trying/testing several fixes nothing seems to solve the problem, but
| as a note, after refreshing the Desktop Icon Cache, by changing the Icon size
| from 32 to 28 or vice versa, the openings seem to get back to the normal
| quick speed, but just after closing the IE once again they'll slow down to
| the 1+ minute wait status. The Icon Cache size seems to be set as 8192 in
| the Registry.
|
|
| Thanks in advance, any comments/hints are appreciated.
|
|
| Best regards,
|
| Pete V.
|

Hi!

There seems not to be any "easy" explanation for this problem. The lead of
the Icon Cache rebuild or size change didn't actually give any step ahead, it
probably has been a false conclusion for a lead, the status is still
remaining the same.

I have now been doing/testing the following:
- the System File Checker didn't give any solution to this
- by checking with 4 different programs, there has not been found any
viruses, malware, spyware etc. on the system
- on the IE all the TIF's, cookies and histories have been deleted
- the IE6.0SP1 has been reinstalled and updated

And, still the problem remaining the same ... i.e.

-- after closing the last IE window, the next (any) program open will
begin with waiting for something for 1 minute 15-25 seconds before really
opening ...

So, what could be the reason for this??

As long as one opened IE window will remain open everything works fine,
until the close of the last IE one ...

And, a "funny" thing is, this has been true since some 5-10 days for my 2
older IBM ThinkPad's with Win98SE residing at different sites ... so, what on
earth may be affecting this ...


Please, any leads/cues are much appreciated!


Best regards,

Pete V.



"PeteV" wrote:

Hi!

Please, is there any explanation/cure for this problem on a fully updated
Win98SE with IE6.0SP1?

After closing the reboot fresh quickly opening IE, all the program openings,
incl. IE itself, will get extremely slow, i.e. upon opening of any program
there seems to be a 1+ minute wait for something before anything begin to
happen ...

This problem did pop-up some 10 days ago, and thus I somehow doubt the
recent KB908519 hotfix.

After trying/testing several fixes nothing seems to solve the problem, but
as a note, after refreshing the Desktop Icon Cache, by changing the Icon size
from 32 to 28 or vice versa, the openings seem to get back to the normal
quick speed, but just after closing the IE once again they'll slow down to
the 1+ minute wait status. The Icon Cache size seems to be set as 8192 in
the Registry.


Thanks in advance, any comments/hints are appreciated.


Best regards,

Pete V.

Hmm. Too bad. Are you saying just the NEXT open is slow-- or is it EVERY open after you close the last IE window? Does it happen in Safe Mode too? What do your resources look like, before/after the problem begins...?...

For investigative purposes...

(1) WinTop will show as many tasks running as "START, Run, MSInfo32,
Software Environment, Running Tasks", which is twice as many as
Ctrl-Alt-Del. Microsoft's WinTop works in Win98, though written for
Win95. It shows individual CPU & RAM usage figures & updates it's
display every 2 seconds. Get WinTop from
http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/d.../w95kerneltoy/
Download it into a folder of it's own. It's a single executable called
"W95KRNLTOYS.EXE". When you click it, it will unzip and reveal many
applications. All of them are a danger to Win98, except WinTop; delete
them. You will be left with:

W95KRNLTOYS.EXE
WINTOP.INF
WINTOP.TXT
WINTOP.VXD
WINTOP.EXE

You R-Clk WINTOP.INF & select "Install". Click OK to the requestor
stating that a disk is required. Another requestor will appear & allow
you to locate the folder that has the files listed above. WinTop.exe
will be copied to C:\Windows. You may go there, R-Clk it, point to "Send
To" & create a shortcut on the Desktop. Click it to execute. Otherwise,
"START, Run, WinTop".

Yikes, what a RAM hog Explorer is-- & NetZero too! They are eating this
machine alive!

Explorer: 18 threads.
Code Data
Allocated: 15,624K 7,932K
In memory: 5,888K 6,688K
In use 3,522K 3,552K

NetZero: 37 threads.
Code Data
Allocated: 7,624K 16,348K
In memory: 3,272K 9,252K
In use 2,488K 8,252K

NetZero: 3 more threads (icon in tray).
Code Data
Allocated: 3,248K 4,012K
In memory: 876K 1,164K
In use 440K 696K

(2) Do you have "System Monitor" in START... System Tools? If not, get
it from "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Windows
Setup tab, D-Clk System Tools, check System Monitor, OK, Apply, OK". May
as well take "Resource Meter", too. Now, go through the menus and at
least have it display

(a) Swap file in use.
(b) Swap file size.
(c) Swappable memory.
(d) Unused physical memory.
(e) Allocated memory.
(f) Disk cache size.
(g) Locked memory
(h) Other memory
(i) Kernel Processor Usage
(j) Kernel Threads

I must go. I'm on my way to Saskatchewan & have no time to explain what
each of those are. Just watch that "in use" figure, is all, for now.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PeteV" wrote in message ...
| Hi!
|
| Thanks for the reply.
|
| I did test with some 6 different Icon Cache sizes from 0 to 8192, but there
| wasn't seen any affect at all to this problem, sorry ...
|
| It seems then Icon Cache lead is not the right one for this problem, please,
| check my other post below for explaining the status for this case.
|
|
| Best regards,
|
| Pete V.
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| It could be 8192 is too large for the ShellIconCache. Set it to 4096...
|
| This is how to adjust the ShellIconCache size. It may go as high as
| 4096. (Well, some say 8192.) It has cured, for me, a sluggishness of the
| drawing of icons, inside Explorer & My Documents (the small ones to left
| of file names).
|
| HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\explorer
| Max Cached Icons 4096 (String value)
|
| 1. START; Run; Type "RegEdit" & Enter
| 2. Click the plus (+) signs in the left pane,
| starting left of "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE",
| & ending left of "CurrentVersion".
| 3. Finally, click the key "explorer" in the left pane (not it's plus
| sign).
| 4. In the right pane, R-Clk an empty area; point to "new"; select
| "string value"; type or paste "Max Cached Icons" & Enter.
| 5. R-Clk "Max Cached Icons"; select "Modify"; enter "4096" & click OK.
| 6. Close RegEdit & reboot.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "PeteV" wrote in message ...
| | Hi!
| |
| | After still re-testing this case, I have got the feeling, that the problem
| | point is somewhere around the Icon Cache, i.e.
| |
| | 1. before opening the IE, or having one IE window open, you may open/close
| | any program without any problems, even the second/third etc. IE window
| | 2. upon closing the last remaining IE window the Icon Cache will be
| | "ruined" and it should be rebuild before the next program opening could be
| | done, and now having to wait for some timeout the rebuild would be begun/done
| | taking some 1+ minutes
| | 3. you may do the Icon Cache rebuild by yourself, taking some 2-3 seconds,
| | and through that you'll get to the good working status as also by the 1+
| | minutes wait for the first program opening, or, of course by rebooting, and
| | get once again to the point 1. status
| |
| |
| | Does this make any sense on this?
| |
| |
| | Best regards,
| |
| | Pete V.
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | "PeteV" wrote:
| |
| | Hi!
| |
| | Please, is there any explanation/cure for this problem on a fully updated
| | Win98SE with IE6.0SP1?
| |
| | After closing the reboot fresh quickly opening IE, all the program openings,
| | incl. IE itself, will get extremely slow, i.e. upon opening of any program
| | there seems to be a 1+ minute wait for something before anything begin to
| | happen ...
| |
| | This problem did pop-up some 10 days ago, and thus I somehow doubt the
| | recent KB908519 hotfix.
| |
| | After trying/testing several fixes nothing seems to solve the problem, but
| | as a note, after refreshing the Desktop Icon Cache, by changing the Icon size
| | from 32 to 28 or vice versa, the openings seem to get back to the normal
| | quick speed, but just after closing the IE once again they'll slow down to
| | the 1+ minute wait status. The Icon Cache size seems to be set as 8192 in
| | the Registry.
| |
| |
| | Thanks in advance, any comments/hints are appreciated.
| |
| |
| | Best regards,
| |
| | Pete V.
| |
|

Hi!

Thank you so much for your effort PCR, will be checking the tools you
mentioned, as a complement for the Process Explorer v8.61 and Memory and CPU
Observer v2.3.

Sorry, the problem seems to be somewhere else, close to the area I've been
pointing but not just there, but on one certain page address, probably since
some 10 days and hopefully just temporarily, i.e. the main home page address
of my ISP, http://elisa.net , which I have been using as my IE home page
already for ages!!

So, after visiting at that address and closing the last IE window, any first
program opening after that will begin first with "thinking" lasting some 20
seconds extra (yesterday even some 1 minute 20 seconds) before really got to
the program opening 1-3 seconds phase ...

It seems the point is somewhere on the visit at that address, which upon IE
closing will have some affect generally on all program openings, i.e. maybe
has "ruined" something, which has to be rebuild/refound for the next first
program opening ... Cute, isn't it, causing some 10 hours
investigation/re-installing/checking/testing etc. etc. ...


Thanks anyway, I'll come back if finding something new to tell on this.


Best regards,

Pete V.



"PCR" wrote:

Hmm. Too bad. Are you saying just the NEXT open is slow-- or is it EVERY open after you close the last IE window? Does it happen in Safe Mode too? What do your resources look like, before/after the problem begins...?...

For investigative purposes...

(1) WinTop will show as many tasks running as "START, Run, MSInfo32,
Software Environment, Running Tasks", which is twice as many as
Ctrl-Alt-Del. Microsoft's WinTop works in Win98, though written for
Win95. It shows individual CPU & RAM usage figures & updates it's
display every 2 seconds. Get WinTop from
http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/d.../w95kerneltoy/
Download it into a folder of it's own. It's a single executable called
"W95KRNLTOYS.EXE". When you click it, it will unzip and reveal many
applications. All of them are a danger to Win98, except WinTop; delete
them. You will be left with:

W95KRNLTOYS.EXE
WINTOP.INF
WINTOP.TXT
WINTOP.VXD
WINTOP.EXE

You R-Clk WINTOP.INF & select "Install". Click OK to the requestor
stating that a disk is required. Another requestor will appear & allow
you to locate the folder that has the files listed above. WinTop.exe
will be copied to C:\Windows. You may go there, R-Clk it, point to "Send
To" & create a shortcut on the Desktop. Click it to execute. Otherwise,
"START, Run, WinTop".

Yikes, what a RAM hog Explorer is-- & NetZero too! They are eating this
machine alive!

Explorer: 18 threads.
Code Data
Allocated: 15,624K 7,932K
In memory: 5,888K 6,688K
In use 3,522K 3,552K

NetZero: 37 threads.
Code Data
Allocated: 7,624K 16,348K
In memory: 3,272K 9,252K
In use 2,488K 8,252K

NetZero: 3 more threads (icon in tray).
Code Data
Allocated: 3,248K 4,012K
In memory: 876K 1,164K
In use 440K 696K

(2) Do you have "System Monitor" in START... System Tools? If not, get
it from "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Windows
Setup tab, D-Clk System Tools, check System Monitor, OK, Apply, OK". May
as well take "Resource Meter", too. Now, go through the menus and at
least have it display

(a) Swap file in use.
(b) Swap file size.
(c) Swappable memory.
(d) Unused physical memory.
(e) Allocated memory.
(f) Disk cache size.
(g) Locked memory
(h) Other memory
(i) Kernel Processor Usage
(j) Kernel Threads

I must go. I'm on my way to Saskatchewan & have no time to explain what
each of those are. Just watch that "in use" figure, is all, for now.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PeteV" wrote in message ...
| Hi!
|
| Thanks for the reply.
|
| I did test with some 6 different Icon Cache sizes from 0 to 8192, but there
| wasn't seen any affect at all to this problem, sorry ...
|
| It seems then Icon Cache lead is not the right one for this problem, please,
| check my other post below for explaining the status for this case.
|
|
| Best regards,
|
| Pete V.
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| It could be 8192 is too large for the ShellIconCache. Set it to 4096...
|
| This is how to adjust the ShellIconCache size. It may go as high as
| 4096. (Well, some say 8192.) It has cured, for me, a sluggishness of the
| drawing of icons, inside Explorer & My Documents (the small ones to left
| of file names).
|
| HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\explorer
| Max Cached Icons 4096 (String value)
|
| 1. START; Run; Type "RegEdit" & Enter
| 2. Click the plus (+) signs in the left pane,
| starting left of "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE",
| & ending left of "CurrentVersion".
| 3. Finally, click the key "explorer" in the left pane (not it's plus
| sign).
| 4. In the right pane, R-Clk an empty area; point to "new"; select
| "string value"; type or paste "Max Cached Icons" & Enter.
| 5. R-Clk "Max Cached Icons"; select "Modify"; enter "4096" & click OK.
| 6. Close RegEdit & reboot.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "PeteV" wrote in message ...
| | Hi!
| |
| | After still re-testing this case, I have got the feeling, that the problem
| | point is somewhere around the Icon Cache, i.e.
| |
| | 1. before opening the IE, or having one IE window open, you may open/close
| | any program without any problems, even the second/third etc. IE window
| | 2. upon closing the last remaining IE window the Icon Cache will be
| | "ruined" and it should be rebuild before the next program opening could be
| | done, and now having to wait for some timeout the rebuild would be begun/done
| | taking some 1+ minutes
| | 3. you may do the Icon Cache rebuild by yourself, taking some 2-3 seconds,
| | and through that you'll get to the good working status as also by the 1+
| | minutes wait for the first program opening, or, of course by rebooting, and
| | get once again to the point 1. status
| |
| |
| | Does this make any sense on this?
| |
| |
| | Best regards,
| |
| | Pete V.
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | "PeteV" wrote:
| |
| | Hi!
| |
| | Please, is there any explanation/cure for this problem on a fully updated
| | Win98SE with IE6.0SP1?
| |
| | After closing the reboot fresh quickly opening IE, all the program openings,
| | incl. IE itself, will get extremely slow, i.e. upon opening of any program
| | there seems to be a 1+ minute wait for something before anything begin to
| | happen ...
| |
| | This problem did pop-up some 10 days ago, and thus I somehow doubt the
| | recent KB908519 hotfix.
| |
| | After trying/testing several fixes nothing seems to solve the problem, but
| | as a note, after refreshing the Desktop Icon Cache, by changing the Icon size
| | from 32 to 28 or vice versa, the openings seem to get back to the normal
| | quick speed, but just after closing the IE once again they'll slow down to
| | the 1+ minute wait status. The Icon Cache size seems to be set as 8192 in
| | the Registry.
| |
| |
| | Thanks in advance, any comments/hints are appreciated.
| |
| |
| | Best regards,
| |
| | Pete V.
| |
|

Well, DAMN, the same thing happened to me with that site! First of all, it hadn't completely LOADED per the IE Status Bar & a placeholder icon seemed to be unresolved. After 3/so minutes, I closed the site anyway. It's icon seemed to disappear from the Desktop Toolbar. BUT, clicking to open Explorer after that took a few minutes! Once Explorer was open & shut, a subsequent open/shut was quick, thank goodness.

I don't know what it is, except some processing the site is doing takes time. Perhaps, if we wait for it to totally load, it would not have trouble closing. Then, the very next open of anything after that would be quicker. I don't know. Can you talk to them? I can't! At least McAfee never complained of a virus or anything!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PeteV" wrote in message ...
| Hi!
|
| Thank you so much for your effort PCR, will be checking the tools you
| mentioned, as a complement for the Process Explorer v8.61 and Memory and CPU
| Observer v2.3.
|
| Sorry, the problem seems to be somewhere else, close to the area I've been
| pointing but not just there, but on one certain page address, probably since
| some 10 days and hopefully just temporarily, i.e. the main home page address
| of my ISP, http://elisa.net , which I have been using as my IE home page
| already for ages!!
|
| So, after visiting at that address and closing the last IE window, any first
| program opening after that will begin first with "thinking" lasting some 20
| seconds extra (yesterday even some 1 minute 20 seconds) before really got to
| the program opening 1-3 seconds phase ...
|
| It seems the point is somewhere on the visit at that address, which upon IE
| closing will have some affect generally on all program openings, i.e. maybe
| has "ruined" something, which has to be rebuild/refound for the next first
| program opening ... Cute, isn't it, causing some 10 hours
| investigation/re-installing/checking/testing etc. etc. ...
|
|
| Thanks anyway, I'll come back if finding something new to tell on this.
|
|
| Best regards,
|
| Pete V.
|
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| Hmm. Too bad. Are you saying just the NEXT open is slow-- or is it EVERY open after you close the last IE window? Does it happen in Safe Mode too? What do your resources look like, before/after the problem begins...?...
|
| For investigative purposes...
|
| (1) WinTop will show as many tasks running as "START, Run, MSInfo32,
| Software Environment, Running Tasks", which is twice as many as
| Ctrl-Alt-Del. Microsoft's WinTop works in Win98, though written for
| Win95. It shows individual CPU & RAM usage figures & updates it's
| display every 2 seconds. Get WinTop from
| http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/d.../w95kerneltoy/
| Download it into a folder of it's own. It's a single executable called
| "W95KRNLTOYS.EXE". When you click it, it will unzip and reveal many
| applications. All of them are a danger to Win98, except WinTop; delete
| them. You will be left with:
|
| W95KRNLTOYS.EXE
| WINTOP.INF
| WINTOP.TXT
| WINTOP.VXD
| WINTOP.EXE
|
| You R-Clk WINTOP.INF & select "Install". Click OK to the requestor
| stating that a disk is required. Another requestor will appear & allow
| you to locate the folder that has the files listed above. WinTop.exe
| will be copied to C:\Windows. You may go there, R-Clk it, point to "Send
| To" & create a shortcut on the Desktop. Click it to execute. Otherwise,
| "START, Run, WinTop".
|
| Yikes, what a RAM hog Explorer is-- & NetZero too! They are eating this
| machine alive!
|
| Explorer: 18 threads.
| Code Data
| Allocated: 15,624K 7,932K
| In memory: 5,888K 6,688K
| In use 3,522K 3,552K
|
| NetZero: 37 threads.
| Code Data
| Allocated: 7,624K 16,348K
| In memory: 3,272K 9,252K
| In use 2,488K 8,252K
|
| NetZero: 3 more threads (icon in tray).
| Code Data
| Allocated: 3,248K 4,012K
| In memory: 876K 1,164K
| In use 440K 696K
|
| (2) Do you have "System Monitor" in START... System Tools? If not, get
| it from "START, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Windows
| Setup tab, D-Clk System Tools, check System Monitor, OK, Apply, OK". May
| as well take "Resource Meter", too. Now, go through the menus and at
| least have it display
|
| (a) Swap file in use.
| (b) Swap file size.
| (c) Swappable memory.
| (d) Unused physical memory.
| (e) Allocated memory.
| (f) Disk cache size.
| (g) Locked memory
| (h) Other memory
| (i) Kernel Processor Usage
| (j) Kernel Threads
|
| I must go. I'm on my way to Saskatchewan & have no time to explain what
| each of those are. Just watch that "in use" figure, is all, for now.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "PeteV" wrote in message ...
| | Hi!
| |
| | Thanks for the reply.
| |
| | I did test with some 6 different Icon Cache sizes from 0 to 8192, but there
| | wasn't seen any affect at all to this problem, sorry ...
| |
| | It seems then Icon Cache lead is not the right one for this problem, please,
| | check my other post below for explaining the status for this case.
| |
| |
| | Best regards,
| |
| | Pete V.
| |
| |
| | "PCR" wrote:
| |
| | It could be 8192 is too large for the ShellIconCache. Set it to 4096...
| |
| | This is how to adjust the ShellIconCache size. It may go as high as
| | 4096. (Well, some say 8192.) It has cured, for me, a sluggishness of the
| | drawing of icons, inside Explorer & My Documents (the small ones to left
| | of file names).
| |
| | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\explorer
| | Max Cached Icons 4096 (String value)
| |
| | 1. START; Run; Type "RegEdit" & Enter
| | 2. Click the plus (+) signs in the left pane,
| | starting left of "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE",
| | & ending left of "CurrentVersion".
| | 3. Finally, click the key "explorer" in the left pane (not it's plus
| | sign).
| | 4. In the right pane, R-Clk an empty area; point to "new"; select
| | "string value"; type or paste "Max Cached Icons" & Enter.
| | 5. R-Clk "Max Cached Icons"; select "Modify"; enter "4096" & click OK.
| | 6. Close RegEdit & reboot.
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| |
| | "PeteV" wrote in message ...
| | | Hi!
| | |
| | | After still re-testing this case, I have got the feeling, that the problem
| | | point is somewhere around the Icon Cache, i.e.
| | |
| | | 1. before opening the IE, or having one IE window open, you may open/close
| | | any program without any problems, even the second/third etc. IE window
| | | 2. upon closing the last remaining IE window the Icon Cache will be
| | | "ruined" and it should be rebuild before the next program opening could be
| | | done, and now having to wait for some timeout the rebuild would be begun/done
| | | taking some 1+ minutes
| | | 3. you may do the Icon Cache rebuild by yourself, taking some 2-3 seconds,
| | | and through that you'll get to the good working status as also by the 1+
| | | minutes wait for the first program opening, or, of course by rebooting, and
| | | get once again to the point 1. status
| | |
| | |
| | | Does this make any sense on this?
| | |
| | |
| | | Best regards,
| | |
| | | Pete V.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | "PeteV" wrote:
| | |
| | | Hi!
| | |
| | | Please, is there any explanation/cure for this problem on a fully updated
| | | Win98SE with IE6.0SP1?
| | |
| | | After closing the reboot fresh quickly opening IE, all the program openings,
| | | incl. IE itself, will get extremely slow, i.e. upon opening of any program
| | | there seems to be a 1+ minute wait for something before anything begin to
| | | happen ...
| | |
| | | This problem did pop-up some 10 days ago, and thus I somehow doubt the
| | | recent KB908519 hotfix.
| | |
| | | After trying/testing several fixes nothing seems to solve the problem, but
| | | as a note, after refreshing the Desktop Icon Cache, by changing the Icon size
| | | from 32 to 28 or vice versa, the openings seem to get back to the normal
| | | quick speed, but just after closing the IE once again they'll slow down to
| | | the 1+ minute wait status. The Icon Cache size seems to be set as 8192 in
| | | the Registry.
| | |
| | |
| | | Thanks in advance, any comments/hints are appreciated.
| | |
| | |
| | | Best regards,
| | |
| | | Pete V.
| | |
| |
|

Hi!

Still coming back to this topic with some new more detailed notings.

First some corrections to my previous posts,

- the IconCache rebuild is not due for this problem
- maybe neither the KB908519 hotfix

So, once again an updated description on the problem and a question on it

- after closing the reboot-fresh quickly opening IE6.0SP1 on a Win98SE
machine after visiting a certain page with several Flash banners etc.,
http://elisa.net, the next program opening, incl. IE itself, will get
extremely slow, i.e. upon opening of any program there seems to be a 1 minute
20 seconds wait for something before anything begin to happen on the opening
procedure itself of that program
- after the first program now is got opened after the wait phase everything
is working all well once again ... until closing the IE after a visit on that
certain page ...
- it seems that something on Win98SE is "ruined" by closing IE after
visiting that certain page and has to be rebuild/refreshed/waited for or
whatever, before any program could get opened, so, what could it be?
- anyway, the IE6.0SP1 or display adapter re-installs, or System File
Checker or 5 different malware checkings etc. have not been helping at all

Is there anyone who would know this type of specific details inside
Win98SE/IE and of their behaviour and could give some lead to have the
problem source explained and maybe also solved? Thanks in advance for any
comments.


Best regards,

Pete V.



"PeteV" wrote:

Hi!

Please, is there any explanation/cure for this problem on a fully updated
Win98SE with IE6.0SP1?

After closing the reboot fresh quickly opening IE, all the program openings,
incl. IE itself, will get extremely slow, i.e. upon opening of any program
there seems to be a 1+ minute wait for something before anything begin to
happen ...

This problem did pop-up some 10 days ago, and thus I somehow doubt the
recent KB908519 hotfix.

After trying/testing several fixes nothing seems to solve the problem, but
as a note, after refreshing the Desktop Icon Cache, by changing the Icon size
from 32 to 28 or vice versa, the openings seem to get back to the normal
quick speed, but just after closing the IE once again they'll slow down to
the 1+ minute wait status. The Icon Cache size seems to be set as 8192 in
the Registry.


Thanks in advance, any comments/hints are appreciated.


Best regards,

Pete V.

Do you understand the language at that site? Then, go talk to them! It's them, not us! Could be they don't know how to handle a datagram! IE waiting for a response to a packet they won't send, maybe. Kerio shows there is twice as much as the following stuff for them than my NetZero home page. Also, that site seems to show a port has remained open longer than it does for other sites.

2,[03/Feb/2006 15:27:56] Rule 'IE Allow': Permitted: Out TCP, localhost:1227-193.229.9.200:80, Owner: C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET EXPLORER\IEXPLORE.EXE

2,[03/Feb/2006 15:28:02] Rule 'IE Allow': Permitted: Out TCP, localhost:1229-193.229.9.200:80, Owner: C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET EXPLORER\IEXPLORE.EXE

2,[03/Feb/2006 15:28:06] Rule 'IE Allow': Permitted: Out TCP, localhost:1231-193.229.3.120:80, Owner: C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET EXPLORER\IEXPLORE.EXE

....snip of 22 more.....


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PeteV" wrote in message ...
| Hi!
|
| Still coming back to this topic with some new more detailed notings.
|
| First some corrections to my previous posts,
|
| - the IconCache rebuild is not due for this problem
| - maybe neither the KB908519 hotfix
|
| So, once again an updated description on the problem and a question on it
|
| - after closing the reboot-fresh quickly opening IE6.0SP1 on a Win98SE
| machine after visiting a certain page with several Flash banners etc.,
| http://elisa.net, the next program opening, incl. IE itself, will get
| extremely slow, i.e. upon opening of any program there seems to be a 1 minute
| 20 seconds wait for something before anything begin to happen on the opening
| procedure itself of that program
| - after the first program now is got opened after the wait phase everything
| is working all well once again ... until closing the IE after a visit on that
| certain page ...
| - it seems that something on Win98SE is "ruined" by closing IE after
| visiting that certain page and has to be rebuild/refreshed/waited for or
| whatever, before any program could get opened, so, what could it be?
| - anyway, the IE6.0SP1 or display adapter re-installs, or System File
| Checker or 5 different malware checkings etc. have not been helping at all
|
| Is there anyone who would know this type of specific details inside
| Win98SE/IE and of their behaviour and could give some lead to have the
| problem source explained and maybe also solved? Thanks in advance for any
| comments.
|
|
| Best regards,
|
| Pete V.
|
|
|
| "PeteV" wrote:
|
| Hi!
|
| Please, is there any explanation/cure for this problem on a fully updated
| Win98SE with IE6.0SP1?
|
| After closing the reboot fresh quickly opening IE, all the program openings,
| incl. IE itself, will get extremely slow, i.e. upon opening of any program
| there seems to be a 1+ minute wait for something before anything begin to
| happen ...
|
| This problem did pop-up some 10 days ago, and thus I somehow doubt the
| recent KB908519 hotfix.
|
| After trying/testing several fixes nothing seems to solve the problem, but
| as a note, after refreshing the Desktop Icon Cache, by changing the Icon size
| from 32 to 28 or vice versa, the openings seem to get back to the normal
| quick speed, but just after closing the IE once again they'll slow down to
| the 1+ minute wait status. The Icon Cache size seems to be set as 8192 in
| the Registry.
|
|
| Thanks in advance, any comments/hints are appreciated.
|
|
| Best regards,
|
| Pete V.
|