Ad-awarec & Scanner & Font

I am truly baffled......but I had other problems on here before the
download.....I have a lot of XP folders from a failed upgrade. So perhaps I
was more vulnerable to the bad stuff!!

Odd that you and I both downloaded that blasted program. I have removed it,
but the Zone Image Express is right there in the middle of where my OE
emails were.....so grasping at straws here. I thought perhaps it just might
provide a clue to Mart.

Good luck....I am still sorting the mess out on here. Other than that
download, nothing else new was on here.

Cheers....Heather

"Eileen" wrote in message
...
Heather,
The problem I had was with the font (only in Ad-aware and HP PhotoSmart
Scan). HP had me download to solve the problem but it didn't. I don't
seem
to have any other major problems yet).
Eileen

"Heather" wrote in message
...
THAT IS THE ONE!! Sorry, but I got the name wrong. I downloaded HP
Image
Zone Express....and then it had an update......after that you would not
believe how many things went haywire!!!!!!!

Something (had to be the above) wiped out Firefox and Outlook Express,
for
starters. I found that folders were moved in Windows Explorer and am
still
trying to sort that out.

Found all my *.dbx files and imported them back into OE......reinstalled
Firefox.....now some of my desktop icons are just plain jane white MS
ones.....Roxio, MS Word, etc.

Not quite sure what all was affected, but the fact that you are having
major
problems after downloading the same program makes me highly suspicious!!

Perhaps there is a clue here......I just found two different folders
(one
I
found in Applog) that contain folders for Image Zone Express......

Hey....we have a glimmer of light here!!

Cheers....Heather

"Eileen" wrote in message
...
Heather,
No, it is Image Zone Express and I had the problem before but didn't
have
the time to try to correct it.
Eileen

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Eileen......

A question here......was the upgrade from HP that program called
*Photo
Impressions*??? It was after that download that things went haywire
on
this
computer.....

Wondering......Heather

"Eileen" wrote in message
...
I think the association change happen when HP had me download an
update.
I
couldn't seem to make them understand that I am using ME. I just
happened
to notice today that the icon in front of most of the fonts had
changed.

Wish I was more PC knowledgeable. Would it hurt anything if I
would
change
it to use Font Viewer?

I moved the Symbol font back into the Font Folder and it didn't
make
a
difference. But I didn't restart my PC... do I have to?

Eileen

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Thanks Dave, I guessed maybe that was your thinking, but I'd
forgotten
that
Eileen's 'original' font was 'Symbol Regular' in Notepad. But
I'm
not
too
sure if it is symbole.fon that is responsible, but rather the
symbol.ttf
font - I just don't know.

Unfortunately I don't have a working version of WinMe running
here
(I'm
running XP) so I've been trying to follow your logic in XP to
make
comparisons - but I don't think that they (the registries)
exactly
equate
g

However, I was more worried when Eileen dropped her "Some months
ago,
I
moved a lot of fonts out that I don't use and put them in a
folder
that
I
call 'extra fonts" bomblet. I just wonder if moving them back
*might*
help,
although with the subsequent passage of time and changes over
that
period,
probably not going to achieve much.

If the registry key can't be found, other than a clean install
(ouch!!)
then
the only 'work around' that I can think of would be to
temporarily
substitute the symbol.ttf font with "Tahoma" or "Verdana" (by
renaming)
to
see if that 'improves' things - or live with it. Neither,
totally
satisfactory solutions. Rapidly running out of further
suggestions.

BTW - Eileen, I doubt that "Opens with ACDSee for Windows
95/98/200"
has
anything to do with it. But they should be set to open with
Windows
Font
Viewer (according to XP) in Windows Explorer. Mmm.. on
reflection,
why
has
the 'association' changed??

Mart


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "Mart"

| Eileen, not exactly sure where David is taking you, but just
wondered
do
you
| have symbol.ttf mentioned in the registry? Or even in the
fonts
folder?
|
| Mart


Mart:

When she loaded NOTEPAD the fonts were Greek. The same
condition
as
when
she loaded
Ad-aware. Since the NOTEPAD font is set and and identified in
the
Registry, I was trying to
go in the Reverse direction. Before Eileen changed the font
in
NOTEPAD
and had her identfy
what its current font was. The idea is if a search of the
Registry
yield's keys that load
the same font then those keys could be altered to to a more
appropriate
screen font. Then,
hopefully, Ad-aware too will inherit the change.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

Yo Mart.....

Been trying to sort the OE problem out with Majik.....and he had this to say
about the Photo program......

/quote......
It could have messed with the email settings, especially if it's one of
those "email friends and family" type programs. I generally advise against
installing those unless they have no other alternatives. Dell has/had one
that was a demo and when it expired, it expired......left a ton of junk and
file associations to rebuild. I think they sorted that one out though.
/unquote.......

Would the file associations he mentions have anything to do with Eileen's
problems?? And it was one of those *email friends and family* programs.

Just gathering bits and pieces. And off to the store now.......but hope
that there is a nugget or two in this for you.....

You can write me at figgyd_ca at yahoo dot ca and I will send you the HP
letter if you wish.....or any other info if you deem it to be applicable.
It may not help me out, but perhaps might help others if they download this
thing.

Cheers....Heather
"Mart" wrote in message
...
Good point Heather - If so, I wonder if it coincided with Eileen's
problems
too, although I suspect her bomblet was more likely to have been the cause
g

Mart


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Eileen......

A question here......was the upgrade from HP that program called *Photo
Impressions*??? It was after that download that things went haywire on
this
computer.....

Wondering......Heather

"Eileen" wrote in message
...
I think the association change happen when HP had me download an
update.
I
couldn't seem to make them understand that I am using ME. I just
happened
to notice today that the icon in front of most of the fonts had
changed.

Wish I was more PC knowledgeable. Would it hurt anything if I would
change
it to use Font Viewer?

I moved the Symbol font back into the Font Folder and it didn't make a
difference. But I didn't restart my PC... do I have to?

Eileen

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Thanks Dave, I guessed maybe that was your thinking, but I'd
forgotten
that
Eileen's 'original' font was 'Symbol Regular' in Notepad. But I'm not
too
sure if it is symbole.fon that is responsible, but rather the
symbol.ttf
font - I just don't know.

Unfortunately I don't have a working version of WinMe running here
(I'm
running XP) so I've been trying to follow your logic in XP to make
comparisons - but I don't think that they (the registries) exactly
equate
g

However, I was more worried when Eileen dropped her "Some months ago,
I
moved a lot of fonts out that I don't use and put them in a folder
that
I
call 'extra fonts" bomblet. I just wonder if moving them back *might*
help,
although with the subsequent passage of time and changes over that
period,
probably not going to achieve much.

If the registry key can't be found, other than a clean install
(ouch!!)
then
the only 'work around' that I can think of would be to temporarily
substitute the symbol.ttf font with "Tahoma" or "Verdana" (by
renaming)
to
see if that 'improves' things - or live with it. Neither, totally
satisfactory solutions. Rapidly running out of further suggestions.

BTW - Eileen, I doubt that "Opens with ACDSee for Windows 95/98/200"
has
anything to do with it. But they should be set to open with Windows
Font
Viewer (according to XP) in Windows Explorer. Mmm.. on reflection,
why
has
the 'association' changed??

Mart


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "Mart"

| Eileen, not exactly sure where David is taking you, but just
wondered
do
you
| have symbol.ttf mentioned in the registry? Or even in the fonts
folder?
|
| Mart


Mart:

When she loaded NOTEPAD the fonts were Greek. The same condition
as
when
she loaded
Ad-aware. Since the NOTEPAD font is set and and identified in the
Registry, I was trying to
go in the Reverse direction. Before Eileen changed the font in
NOTEPAD
and had her identfy
what its current font was. The idea is if a search of the Registry
yield's keys that load
the same font then those keys could be altered to to a more
appropriate
screen font. Then,
hopefully, Ad-aware too will inherit the change.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

Here's a list of my photo programs + Picture It & Picture It Publishing.
Eileen

"Heather" wrote in message
...
I am truly baffled......but I had other problems on here before the
download.....I have a lot of XP folders from a failed upgrade. So perhaps
I
was more vulnerable to the bad stuff!!

Odd that you and I both downloaded that blasted program. I have removed
it,
but the Zone Image Express is right there in the middle of where my OE
emails were.....so grasping at straws here. I thought perhaps it just
might
provide a clue to Mart.

Good luck....I am still sorting the mess out on here. Other than that
download, nothing else new was on here.

Cheers....Heather

"Eileen" wrote in message
...
Heather,
The problem I had was with the font (only in Ad-aware and HP PhotoSmart
Scan). HP had me download to solve the problem but it didn't. I don't
seem
to have any other major problems yet).
Eileen

"Heather" wrote in message
...
THAT IS THE ONE!! Sorry, but I got the name wrong. I downloaded HP
Image
Zone Express....and then it had an update......after that you would
not
believe how many things went haywire!!!!!!!

Something (had to be the above) wiped out Firefox and Outlook Express,
for
starters. I found that folders were moved in Windows Explorer and am
still
trying to sort that out.

Found all my *.dbx files and imported them back into
OE......reinstalled
Firefox.....now some of my desktop icons are just plain jane white MS
ones.....Roxio, MS Word, etc.

Not quite sure what all was affected, but the fact that you are having
major
problems after downloading the same program makes me highly
suspicious!!

Perhaps there is a clue here......I just found two different folders
(one
I
found in Applog) that contain folders for Image Zone Express......

Hey....we have a glimmer of light here!!

Cheers....Heather

"Eileen" wrote in message
...
Heather,
No, it is Image Zone Express and I had the problem before but didn't
have
the time to try to correct it.
Eileen

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Eileen......

A question here......was the upgrade from HP that program called
*Photo
Impressions*??? It was after that download that things went
haywire
on
this
computer.....

Wondering......Heather

"Eileen" wrote in message
...
I think the association change happen when HP had me download an
update.
I
couldn't seem to make them understand that I am using ME. I
just
happened
to notice today that the icon in front of most of the fonts had
changed.

Wish I was more PC knowledgeable. Would it hurt anything if I
would
change
it to use Font Viewer?

I moved the Symbol font back into the Font Folder and it didn't
make
a
difference. But I didn't restart my PC... do I have to?

Eileen

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Thanks Dave, I guessed maybe that was your thinking, but I'd
forgotten
that
Eileen's 'original' font was 'Symbol Regular' in Notepad. But
I'm
not
too
sure if it is symbole.fon that is responsible, but rather the
symbol.ttf
font - I just don't know.

Unfortunately I don't have a working version of WinMe running
here
(I'm
running XP) so I've been trying to follow your logic in XP to
make
comparisons - but I don't think that they (the registries)
exactly
equate
g

However, I was more worried when Eileen dropped her "Some
months
ago,
I
moved a lot of fonts out that I don't use and put them in a
folder
that
I
call 'extra fonts" bomblet. I just wonder if moving them back
*might*
help,
although with the subsequent passage of time and changes over
that
period,
probably not going to achieve much.

If the registry key can't be found, other than a clean install
(ouch!!)
then
the only 'work around' that I can think of would be to
temporarily
substitute the symbol.ttf font with "Tahoma" or "Verdana" (by
renaming)
to
see if that 'improves' things - or live with it. Neither,
totally
satisfactory solutions. Rapidly running out of further
suggestions.

BTW - Eileen, I doubt that "Opens with ACDSee for Windows
95/98/200"
has
anything to do with it. But they should be set to open with
Windows
Font
Viewer (according to XP) in Windows Explorer. Mmm.. on
reflection,
why
has
the 'association' changed??

Mart


"David H. Lipman" wrote in
message
...
From: "Mart"

| Eileen, not exactly sure where David is taking you, but
just
wondered
do
you
| have symbol.ttf mentioned in the registry? Or even in the
fonts
folder?
|
| Mart


Mart:

When she loaded NOTEPAD the fonts were Greek. The same
condition
as
when
she loaded
Ad-aware. Since the NOTEPAD font is set and and identified
in
the
Registry, I was trying to
go in the Reverse direction. Before Eileen changed the font
in
NOTEPAD
and had her identfy
what its current font was. The idea is if a search of the
Registry
yield's keys that load
the same font then those keys could be altered to to a more
appropriate
screen font. Then,
hopefully, Ad-aware too will inherit the change.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

This program definitely has some major problems - I just loaded it into an
ME VPC, and the program opens with not a word visible - and freezes. It then
updates itself.....
The updater then updates itself..... ( and that's a 4.2MB download!! - the
dang program in the first place was only 5.5MB!!) - and then says that there
are no updates available for anything on the system.
However, I can't see any effects (yet) outside the program itself.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Heather" wrote in message
...
I am truly baffled......but I had other problems on here before the
download.....I have a lot of XP folders from a failed upgrade. So perhaps
I
was more vulnerable to the bad stuff!!

Odd that you and I both downloaded that blasted program. I have removed
it,
but the Zone Image Express is right there in the middle of where my OE
emails were.....so grasping at straws here. I thought perhaps it just
might
provide a clue to Mart.

Good luck....I am still sorting the mess out on here. Other than that
download, nothing else new was on here.

Cheers....Heather

Wow.......that is what it did to me. Took me a couple of minutes to figure
out that it was re-updating itself and I think I cancelled that
one.....can't remember. But hell.....if you can't trust HP, who can you
trust (don't answer that one.......)

It is very proprietary......the first download automatically took over the
My Pictures Folder and copied them all into it. I did crop and brighten one
and sent it to Elayne.....she never got it. And there is no copy in my Sent
Folder.

I opened it about midnight and shut the computer down a bit
later......reopened in the morning.....no problems. Shut it down in the
late afternoon which I usually don't do.....and upon reopening it last
night, all hell broke loose.

Trying to remember what all happened......but OE was totally empty. Firefox
was totally wiped out.....nothing in it. Just before that I decided to move
an icon in Quick Launch to the right......lost Quick Launch immediately.

I searched for my *.dbx files and they were also in Applog Folder (hidden
file called Application Data)......moved it over to the C Drive and was able
eventually to import my emails and settings. But it seems that they came
from the *original* Application Data sub folder. I have been watching the
dates. I had a heck of a time importing them and also my Address Book. But
eventually used Majik's OE Backup prog and got it from there.

On viewing this *hidden folder*, it appears that most of it is from the
failed XP install.....date of Feb. 19th, which is when I tried to upgrade.
Debating on moving it to the Recycle Bin, but not sure about that. I had
two OE Identities, one of which was corrupt.....they were duplicated in this
hidden folder. Now the original corrupt one contains nothing. Will remove
that one.

IOW......a lot of cleaning up to do and I am not sure what I can remove and
can't. So perhaps it might be the best to just get that 2nd HD and put XP
on and move my data (which is pretty well all backed up already) and then
wipe that ME drive.....but proceeding slowly on this one.

Thanks for checking that one out for me Noel......my gut hunch is that it
certainly caused my problems.....and perhaps could cause problems for
others. If it indeed caused all this on my computer, it is rather
dangerous. The only other program I installed in the last week was my
QuickTax one on March 28th......and at the time I noticed that when I
defragged, the entry for it was 1,550 kb....odd.

Hope the above is clear.......Heather

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This program definitely has some major problems - I just loaded it into an
ME VPC, and the program opens with not a word visible - and freezes. It
then
updates itself.....
The updater then updates itself..... ( and that's a 4.2MB download!! - the
dang program in the first place was only 5.5MB!!) - and then says that
there
are no updates available for anything on the system.
However, I can't see any effects (yet) outside the program itself.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Heather" wrote in message
...
I am truly baffled......but I had other problems on here before the
download.....I have a lot of XP folders from a failed upgrade. So
perhaps
I
was more vulnerable to the bad stuff!!

Odd that you and I both downloaded that blasted program. I have removed
it,
but the Zone Image Express is right there in the middle of where my OE
emails were.....so grasping at straws here. I thought perhaps it just
might
provide a clue to Mart.

Good luck....I am still sorting the mess out on here. Other than that
download, nothing else new was on here.

Cheers....Heather

Sorry, you guys - been AWOL and just got back. Due to the lateness here (bed
time), I'll try to re-visit in the morning. Although likely to be AWOL
again, later tomorrow.

(But I still suspect Eileen's bomblet g)

BTW - Eileen, if all your other Windows look like the .jpg you've attached
(and from what I remember of your original Ad-Aware screen shot), then your
fonts are a mess. Even the Title bar looks wrong. In fact, none of the fonts
look right. What do you think - Heather and Noel?

Be interesting to see how Noel fares with the HP Zone Express - but still
not (yet) convinced that it's the culprit.

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This program definitely has some major problems - I just loaded it into an
ME VPC, and the program opens with not a word visible - and freezes. It
then updates itself.....
The updater then updates itself..... ( and that's a 4.2MB download!! - the
dang program in the first place was only 5.5MB!!) - and then says that
there are no updates available for anything on the system.
However, I can't see any effects (yet) outside the program itself.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Heather" wrote in message
...
I am truly baffled......but I had other problems on here before the
download.....I have a lot of XP folders from a failed upgrade. So
perhaps I
was more vulnerable to the bad stuff!!

Odd that you and I both downloaded that blasted program. I have removed
it,
but the Zone Image Express is right there in the middle of where my OE
emails were.....so grasping at straws here. I thought perhaps it just
might
provide a clue to Mart.

Good luck....I am still sorting the mess out on here. Other than that
download, nothing else new was on here.

Cheers....Heather

You guys have lost me. What program are you talking about... is it the HP
Image Zone Express?

It made me remember that some months ago, I downloaded PICASA GRAPHIC
VIEWER. I didn't like it so I uninstalled it. However I just did a search
and a lot of the .ini are still on the PC. I uninstalled thru Add & Remove.
Shouldn't it have deleted all files?
Eileen

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Wow.......that is what it did to me. Took me a couple of minutes to
figure
out that it was re-updating itself and I think I cancelled that
one.....can't remember. But hell.....if you can't trust HP, who can you
trust (don't answer that one.......)

It is very proprietary......the first download automatically took over the
My Pictures Folder and copied them all into it. I did crop and brighten
one
and sent it to Elayne.....she never got it. And there is no copy in my
Sent
Folder.

I opened it about midnight and shut the computer down a bit
later......reopened in the morning.....no problems. Shut it down in the
late afternoon which I usually don't do.....and upon reopening it last
night, all hell broke loose.

Trying to remember what all happened......but OE was totally empty.
Firefox
was totally wiped out.....nothing in it. Just before that I decided to
move
an icon in Quick Launch to the right......lost Quick Launch immediately.

I searched for my *.dbx files and they were also in Applog Folder (hidden
file called Application Data)......moved it over to the C Drive and was
able
eventually to import my emails and settings. But it seems that they came
from the *original* Application Data sub folder. I have been watching the
dates. I had a heck of a time importing them and also my Address Book.
But
eventually used Majik's OE Backup prog and got it from there.

On viewing this *hidden folder*, it appears that most of it is from the
failed XP install.....date of Feb. 19th, which is when I tried to upgrade.
Debating on moving it to the Recycle Bin, but not sure about that. I had
two OE Identities, one of which was corrupt.....they were duplicated in
this
hidden folder. Now the original corrupt one contains nothing. Will
remove
that one.

IOW......a lot of cleaning up to do and I am not sure what I can remove
and
can't. So perhaps it might be the best to just get that 2nd HD and put XP
on and move my data (which is pretty well all backed up already) and then
wipe that ME drive.....but proceeding slowly on this one.

Thanks for checking that one out for me Noel......my gut hunch is that it
certainly caused my problems.....and perhaps could cause problems for
others. If it indeed caused all this on my computer, it is rather
dangerous. The only other program I installed in the last week was my
QuickTax one on March 28th......and at the time I noticed that when I
defragged, the entry for it was 1,550 kb....odd.

Hope the above is clear.......Heather

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This program definitely has some major problems - I just loaded it into
an
ME VPC, and the program opens with not a word visible - and freezes. It
then
updates itself.....
The updater then updates itself..... ( and that's a 4.2MB download!! -
the
dang program in the first place was only 5.5MB!!) - and then says that
there
are no updates available for anything on the system.
However, I can't see any effects (yet) outside the program itself.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

"Heather" wrote in message
...
I am truly baffled......but I had other problems on here before the
download.....I have a lot of XP folders from a failed upgrade. So
perhaps
I
was more vulnerable to the bad stuff!!

Odd that you and I both downloaded that blasted program. I have
removed
it,
but the Zone Image Express is right there in the middle of where my OE
emails were.....so grasping at straws here. I thought perhaps it just
might
provide a clue to Mart.

Good luck....I am still sorting the mess out on here. Other than that
download, nothing else new was on here.

Cheers....Heather

Since Mart went to bed could someone comment on my earlier post?
Mart,
I don't see anywhere to disassociate.

Checked is 'allow postscript file to override job options'. What does this
mean?

In another window: Symbol was designated to "Never Embed", whatever that
means.

I am able to open all the fonts from Fonts Viewer.

I haven't tried the copy yet.

Eileen

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Sorry, you guys - been AWOL and just got back. Due to the lateness here
(bed
time), I'll try to re-visit in the morning. Although likely to be AWOL
again, later tomorrow.

(But I still suspect Eileen's bomblet g)

BTW - Eileen, if all your other Windows look like the .jpg you've attached
(and from what I remember of your original Ad-Aware screen shot), then
your
fonts are a mess. Even the Title bar looks wrong. In fact, none of the
fonts
look right. What do you think - Heather and Noel?

Be interesting to see how Noel fares with the HP Zone Express - but still
not (yet) convinced that it's the culprit.

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This program definitely has some major problems - I just loaded it into
an
ME VPC, and the program opens with not a word visible - and freezes. It
then updates itself.....
The updater then updates itself..... ( and that's a 4.2MB download!! -
the
dang program in the first place was only 5.5MB!!) - and then says that
there are no updates available for anything on the system.
However, I can't see any effects (yet) outside the program itself.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

"Heather" wrote in message
...
I am truly baffled......but I had other problems on here before the
download.....I have a lot of XP folders from a failed upgrade. So
perhaps I
was more vulnerable to the bad stuff!!

Odd that you and I both downloaded that blasted program. I have
removed
it,
but the Zone Image Express is right there in the middle of where my OE
emails were.....so grasping at straws here. I thought perhaps it just
might
provide a clue to Mart.

Good luck....I am still sorting the mess out on here. Other than that
download, nothing else new was on here.

Cheers....Heather

I forget what her *bomblet* was....but I know it was important. Do refresh
my memory.

And you are right about the fonts on her photo attachment. That is what
Firefox looks like until you go in and change the fonts. I have mine set to
Arial in that program.....hate whatever that one is....Times Roman?

I didn't even have to compare, but noticed it was like the *out of the box*
Firefox, as TomV would say.

Cheers.....and don't question the Oracle.....OK? I KNOW that this program
mucked me up. With a little help from the XP debacle. (VBG)

Kissies.....Heather

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Sorry, you guys - been AWOL and just got back. Due to the lateness here
(bed
time), I'll try to re-visit in the morning. Although likely to be AWOL
again, later tomorrow.

(But I still suspect Eileen's bomblet g)

BTW - Eileen, if all your other Windows look like the .jpg you've attached
(and from what I remember of your original Ad-Aware screen shot), then
your
fonts are a mess. Even the Title bar looks wrong. In fact, none of the
fonts
look right. What do you think - Heather and Noel?

Be interesting to see how Noel fares with the HP Zone Express - but still
not (yet) convinced that it's the culprit.

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This program definitely has some major problems - I just loaded it into
an
ME VPC, and the program opens with not a word visible - and freezes. It
then updates itself.....
The updater then updates itself..... ( and that's a 4.2MB download!! -
the
dang program in the first place was only 5.5MB!!) - and then says that
there are no updates available for anything on the system.
However, I can't see any effects (yet) outside the program itself.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

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"Heather" wrote in message
...
I am truly baffled......but I had other problems on here before the
download.....I have a lot of XP folders from a failed upgrade. So
perhaps I
was more vulnerable to the bad stuff!!

Odd that you and I both downloaded that blasted program. I have
removed
it,
but the Zone Image Express is right there in the middle of where my OE
emails were.....so grasping at straws here. I thought perhaps it just
might
provide a clue to Mart.

Good luck....I am still sorting the mess out on here. Other than that
download, nothing else new was on here.

Cheers....Heather

Yes, Eileen.....we are talking about the Image Zone Express. And you just
flagged something in my memory with that PICASA stuff. I was reading a
forum somewhere and the posters were complaining about exactly what you are
saying....that even after uninstalling it, there were bits all over the
computer. Try going to Google and put "Picasa" in and perhaps you might
find what I am talking about......can't remember for the life of me how I
stumbled onto it.

Oh....quite often when you uninstall a program, bits are left behind. I do
two things. I run the Microsoft RegClean 4.1 to take out the keys and I go
into Windows Explorer and delete any folders that are left from the
particular program I uninstalled. I have run more intensive registry
cleaners with the name of the program (i.e. HP or Picasa) and found a lot of
stuff.....but I am not that sure of myself in the Registry, so generally
leave it alone.

Best.....Heather

"Eileen" wrote in message
...
You guys have lost me. What program are you talking about... is it the HP
Image Zone Express?

It made me remember that some months ago, I downloaded PICASA GRAPHIC
VIEWER. I didn't like it so I uninstalled it. However I just did a
search
and a lot of the .ini are still on the PC. I uninstalled thru Add &
Remove.
Shouldn't it have deleted all files?
Eileen

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Wow.......that is what it did to me. Took me a couple of minutes to
figure
out that it was re-updating itself and I think I cancelled that
one.....can't remember. But hell.....if you can't trust HP, who can you
trust (don't answer that one.......)

It is very proprietary......the first download automatically took over
the
My Pictures Folder and copied them all into it. I did crop and brighten
one
and sent it to Elayne.....she never got it. And there is no copy in my
Sent
Folder.

I opened it about midnight and shut the computer down a bit
later......reopened in the morning.....no problems. Shut it down in the
late afternoon which I usually don't do.....and upon reopening it last
night, all hell broke loose.

Trying to remember what all happened......but OE was totally empty.
Firefox
was totally wiped out.....nothing in it. Just before that I decided to
move
an icon in Quick Launch to the right......lost Quick Launch immediately.

I searched for my *.dbx files and they were also in Applog Folder
(hidden
file called Application Data)......moved it over to the C Drive and was
able
eventually to import my emails and settings. But it seems that they
came
from the *original* Application Data sub folder. I have been watching
the
dates. I had a heck of a time importing them and also my Address Book.
But
eventually used Majik's OE Backup prog and got it from there.

On viewing this *hidden folder*, it appears that most of it is from the
failed XP install.....date of Feb. 19th, which is when I tried to
upgrade.
Debating on moving it to the Recycle Bin, but not sure about that. I
had
two OE Identities, one of which was corrupt.....they were duplicated in
this
hidden folder. Now the original corrupt one contains nothing. Will
remove
that one.

IOW......a lot of cleaning up to do and I am not sure what I can remove
and
can't. So perhaps it might be the best to just get that 2nd HD and put
XP
on and move my data (which is pretty well all backed up already) and
then
wipe that ME drive.....but proceeding slowly on this one.

Thanks for checking that one out for me Noel......my gut hunch is that
it
certainly caused my problems.....and perhaps could cause problems for
others. If it indeed caused all this on my computer, it is rather
dangerous. The only other program I installed in the last week was my
QuickTax one on March 28th......and at the time I noticed that when I
defragged, the entry for it was 1,550 kb....odd.

Hope the above is clear.......Heather

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This program definitely has some major problems - I just loaded it
into
an
ME VPC, and the program opens with not a word visible - and freezes.
It
then
updates itself.....
The updater then updates itself..... ( and that's a 4.2MB download!! -
the
dang program in the first place was only 5.5MB!!) - and then says that
there
are no updates available for anything on the system.
However, I can't see any effects (yet) outside the program itself.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

"Heather" wrote in message
...
I am truly baffled......but I had other problems on here before the
download.....I have a lot of XP folders from a failed upgrade. So
perhaps
I
was more vulnerable to the bad stuff!!

Odd that you and I both downloaded that blasted program. I have
removed
it,
but the Zone Image Express is right there in the middle of where my
OE
emails were.....so grasping at straws here. I thought perhaps it
just
might
provide a clue to Mart.

Good luck....I am still sorting the mess out on here. Other than
that
download, nothing else new was on here.

Cheers....Heather