Workgroup naming

No, DHCP can work across a router when properly configured. Or the DHCP
addressing of the first network can be handled by its current DHCP schema
(whether a server or manually configured) and the hidden part of the network
can get addresses from the new router. Or you could configure all addresses
manually if you'd rather. No big hu-hu in any case.

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"HAL" wrote in message
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Richard G. Harper wrote:
Sorry, guess I misunderstood your first post. Let's try again.

What you need is a router to divide computers into different address
ranges, otherwise all workgroups will be able to browse all other
workgroups present on the network. You'd connect the router to the
network with the T1 line, then configure it to provide addresses in the
192.168.1.x range to the computers that you want isolated from the
computers in the 192.168.0.x address range. Connect the computers you
want isolated to the router.

Would that therefore require the static assignments of each IP address on
the router and the computers and not DHCP?

Richard G. Harper wrote:

No, DHCP can work across a router when properly configured. Or the DHCP
addressing of the first network can be handled by its current DHCP schema
(whether a server or manually configured) and the hidden part of the network
can get addresses from the new router. Or you could configure all addresses
manually if you'd rather. No big hu-hu in any case.

Thank you. I guess the significant element is that there are
TWO routers involved, each with a separate IP identity
(i.e.: 192-168.XXX.yyy and the other 192.168.AAA.bbb). If
the T1 modem only has one Ethernet port, can the two routers
cascade through the other with the different (class c setup)
IP addresses? Just curious as part of my education, not an
urgent question of need.

Richard G. Harper wrote:

No, DHCP can work across a router when properly configured. Or the DHCP
addressing of the first network can be handled by its current DHCP schema
(whether a server or manually configured) and the hidden part of the network
can get addresses from the new router. Or you could configure all addresses
manually if you'd rather. No big hu-hu in any case.

Thank you. I guess the significant element is that there are
TWO routers involved, each with a separate IP identity
(i.e.: 192-168.XXX.yyy and the other 192.168.AAA.bbb). If
the T1 modem only has one Ethernet port, can the two routers
cascade through the other with the different (class c setup)
IP addresses? Just curious as part of my education, not an
urgent question of need.

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:01:26 -0400, "Richard G. Harper"
wrote:

No, DHCP can work across a router when properly configured. Or the DHCP
addressing of the first network can be handled by its current DHCP schema
(whether a server or manually configured) and the hidden part of the network
can get addresses from the new router. Or you could configure all addresses
manually if you'd rather. No big hu-hu in any case.

Ok..so I would need another router for the other 4 systems..
I have each system's IP addresses put in manually..I do not let the
router assign them..
I was hoping to just assign a different IP range for the 4 systems and
setup the gateway with the routers IP address in the TCP/IP setup..
But didn't work that way.
As soon as I assigned the range to the 4 systems..they lost the T1..

Lou

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:01:26 -0400, "Richard G. Harper"
wrote:

No, DHCP can work across a router when properly configured. Or the DHCP
addressing of the first network can be handled by its current DHCP schema
(whether a server or manually configured) and the hidden part of the network
can get addresses from the new router. Or you could configure all addresses
manually if you'd rather. No big hu-hu in any case.

Ok..so I would need another router for the other 4 systems..
I have each system's IP addresses put in manually..I do not let the
router assign them..
I was hoping to just assign a different IP range for the 4 systems and
setup the gateway with the routers IP address in the TCP/IP setup..
But didn't work that way.
As soon as I assigned the range to the 4 systems..they lost the T1..

Lou

Depending on the class of router you get, some configuration may be
necessary. With consumer-grade routers, router #2 will get the
configuration it needs from router #1 to establish an internet connection
for the computers connected to router #2. With more expensive
business-grade routers you may need to set up a route to allow computers on
router #2 to see and use the internet connection on router #1.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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"HAL" wrote in message
...
Richard G. Harper wrote:

No, DHCP can work across a router when properly configured. Or the DHCP
addressing of the first network can be handled by its current DHCP schema
(whether a server or manually configured) and the hidden part of the
network can get addresses from the new router. Or you could configure
all addresses manually if you'd rather. No big hu-hu in any case.

Thank you. I guess the significant element is that there are TWO routers
involved, each with a separate IP identity (i.e.: 192-168.XXX.yyy and the
other 192.168.AAA.bbb). If the T1 modem only has one Ethernet port, can
the two routers cascade through the other with the different (class c
setup) IP addresses? Just curious as part of my education, not an urgent
question of need.

Depending on the class of router you get, some configuration may be
necessary. With consumer-grade routers, router #2 will get the
configuration it needs from router #1 to establish an internet connection
for the computers connected to router #2. With more expensive
business-grade routers you may need to set up a route to allow computers on
router #2 to see and use the internet connection on router #1.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"HAL" wrote in message
...
Richard G. Harper wrote:

No, DHCP can work across a router when properly configured. Or the DHCP
addressing of the first network can be handled by its current DHCP schema
(whether a server or manually configured) and the hidden part of the
network can get addresses from the new router. Or you could configure
all addresses manually if you'd rather. No big hu-hu in any case.

Thank you. I guess the significant element is that there are TWO routers
involved, each with a separate IP identity (i.e.: 192-168.XXX.yyy and the
other 192.168.AAA.bbb). If the T1 modem only has one Ethernet port, can
the two routers cascade through the other with the different (class c
setup) IP addresses? Just curious as part of my education, not an urgent
question of need.

Yes, that will happen; and without a router to divide the networks there's
no way to prevent either the loss of the T1 connection or for all computers
to see each other.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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"NEO" wrote in message
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On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:01:26 -0400, "Richard G. Harper"
wrote:

No, DHCP can work across a router when properly configured. Or the DHCP
addressing of the first network can be handled by its current DHCP schema
(whether a server or manually configured) and the hidden part of the
network
can get addresses from the new router. Or you could configure all
addresses
manually if you'd rather. No big hu-hu in any case.

Ok..so I would need another router for the other 4 systems..
I have each system's IP addresses put in manually..I do not let the
router assign them..
I was hoping to just assign a different IP range for the 4 systems and
setup the gateway with the routers IP address in the TCP/IP setup..
But didn't work that way.
As soon as I assigned the range to the 4 systems..they lost the T1..

Lou

Yes, that will happen; and without a router to divide the networks there's
no way to prevent either the loss of the T1 connection or for all computers
to see each other.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"NEO" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:01:26 -0400, "Richard G. Harper"
wrote:

No, DHCP can work across a router when properly configured. Or the DHCP
addressing of the first network can be handled by its current DHCP schema
(whether a server or manually configured) and the hidden part of the
network
can get addresses from the new router. Or you could configure all
addresses
manually if you'd rather. No big hu-hu in any case.

Ok..so I would need another router for the other 4 systems..
I have each system's IP addresses put in manually..I do not let the
router assign them..
I was hoping to just assign a different IP range for the 4 systems and
setup the gateway with the routers IP address in the TCP/IP setup..
But didn't work that way.
As soon as I assigned the range to the 4 systems..they lost the T1..

Lou