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Windows refuses to shutdown or restart / W98se shutdown problem - RESOLVED
Windows refuses to shutdown or restart - encapsulated - RESOLVED
W98se Shutdown Problem - RESOLVED in reference to threads: Posted as a new Post because this *Solved* post has been placed at the very bottom of each of the aforementioned threads. This has been resolved thanks to the kind and untiring efforts of Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) who stuck with me throughout this thread and issue. A number of others who are known to me also paid a brief (or not so brief visit, and you know who you are PCR. s) Since I've used so much bandwidth here I might as well try to explain for the possible benefit of others who may find themselves facing a similar problem with the same Monitor and USB 1.1 Summary: If you have Win98se with USB 1.1 and this Dell 1907FP Flat Panel Monitor, *Do Not* connect the USB 2.0 Upstream port on the monitor to the Computers USB 1.1 Port. The setup instructs one to connect the USB cable between PC and Monitor and makes no statement anywhere that it is ancillary and not needed for operation of the monitor. I suspect that this will continue to be the case as W98se will become more and more "ignored" now that it is a documented *unsupported OS* The root cause (which may also be spiced up with a little of my own ignorant stupidity) appeared to be related to a faulty Device related to the USB Controllers. But actually more specifically related to one of two things with this new Dell 1970FP Monitor (Flat Panel LCD Display). For more details, read onward, otherwise, the basic short summary above serves to shed light on the cause, effect.and solution. My W98se is installed in a very late model of an Optiplex GX240 PC. As I understand it, W98se supports USB 2.0, but as it comes, the hardware installed in it is only USB 1.1 This Flat Panel monitor *may or may not be supported by W98se*. It is now fairly well established that the driver supplied for it on the "Install Disk " is NOT W98se supported, but is solely for WinXP and WinXP x 64 (64 bit). It *may possibly* be supported by W2k as well, but in fact, Dell's available documentation contradicts itself. If someone desires evidence of this, juts look about their website in the downloads area. Enter the model number of your Dell enter your OS platform go to the Drivers/Downloads Display. The info which is from the Readme and INF file for the Driver from the CD if anyone wishes to see that will be found in this thread: Be that as it may, that is not the actual problem, as in fact, the Monitor does work. It may or may not be working at an optimum level (unknown by me; never had one of these FP LCD Monitors before) and it does display some "unfamiliar characteristics" and slightly disturbing graphical features. Now, the one crux of the issue is this: This monitor is supplied with an input connection for USB. From the monitor are 5 USB outputs. The Monitor is able to only manage 2.0 USB and not 1.1 USB. It matters not if a secondary device is attached to the Monitors USB 2.0 output. The Computer Operating System will hang at Shutdown or Restart. There is no documentation elsewhere - that I've seen - which mentions or addresses this issue. Dell had not once during my many discussions with them made any mention of the USB connector; to make certain it wasn't connected. Once again, I'd like to offer my sincere thanks to all those who came to my aid during this most vexing of problems. :-) I hope this will be of some help to any person who might be faced with a similar condition. Cheers. -- LuckyStrike How to make a good newsgroup post: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ |
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Windows refuses to shutdown or restart / W98se shutdown problem - RESOLVED
Just on a point of fact....
Windows 98SE supports USB1.1 out-of-the-box, but needs additional drivers to be able to support USB2.0 The INF file shows no such drivers for the monitor's USB hub (for that it what it is - hopefully a powered one!), and it may be that WIn98 just took it for a USB1.1 hub (which it had every right to expect would work - USB2 is designed explicitly to be backward-compatible!), but that some error in manufacture and/or design meant that it wasn't fully compatible. This should have been visible in Device Manager, if both had been right! Whatever - looks like you've got yourself a nice monitor which will be suitable for you when you eventually upgrade to XP, LS!! vbeg,,, and we both learned a few things along the way Enjoy your shutdowns! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "LuckyStrike" om wrote in message ... Windows refuses to shutdown or restart - encapsulated - RESOLVED W98se Shutdown Problem - RESOLVED in reference to threads: Posted as a new Post because this *Solved* post has been placed at the very bottom of each of the aforementioned threads. This has been resolved thanks to the kind and untiring efforts of Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) who stuck with me throughout this thread and issue. A number of others who are known to me also paid a brief (or not so brief visit, and you know who you are PCR. s) Since I've used so much bandwidth here I might as well try to explain for the possible benefit of others who may find themselves facing a similar problem with the same Monitor and USB 1.1 Summary: If you have Win98se with USB 1.1 and this Dell 1907FP Flat Panel Monitor, *Do Not* connect the USB 2.0 Upstream port on the monitor to the Computers USB 1.1 Port. The setup instructs one to connect the USB cable between PC and Monitor and makes no statement anywhere that it is ancillary and not needed for operation of the monitor. I suspect that this will continue to be the case as W98se will become more and more "ignored" now that it is a documented *unsupported OS* The root cause (which may also be spiced up with a little of my own ignorant stupidity) appeared to be related to a faulty Device related to the USB Controllers. But actually more specifically related to one of two things with this new Dell 1970FP Monitor (Flat Panel LCD Display). For more details, read onward, otherwise, the basic short summary above serves to shed light on the cause, effect.and solution. My W98se is installed in a very late model of an Optiplex GX240 PC. As I understand it, W98se supports USB 2.0, but as it comes, the hardware installed in it is only USB 1.1 This Flat Panel monitor *may or may not be supported by W98se*. It is now fairly well established that the driver supplied for it on the "Install Disk " is NOT W98se supported, but is solely for WinXP and WinXP x 64 (64 bit). It *may possibly* be supported by W2k as well, but in fact, Dell's available documentation contradicts itself. If someone desires evidence of this, juts look about their website in the downloads area. Enter the model number of your Dell enter your OS platform go to the Drivers/Downloads Display. The info which is from the Readme and INF file for the Driver from the CD if anyone wishes to see that will be found in this thread: Be that as it may, that is not the actual problem, as in fact, the Monitor does work. It may or may not be working at an optimum level (unknown by me; never had one of these FP LCD Monitors before) and it does display some "unfamiliar characteristics" and slightly disturbing graphical features. Now, the one crux of the issue is this: This monitor is supplied with an input connection for USB. From the monitor are 5 USB outputs. The Monitor is able to only manage 2.0 USB and not 1.1 USB. It matters not if a secondary device is attached to the Monitors USB 2.0 output. The Computer Operating System will hang at Shutdown or Restart. There is no documentation elsewhere - that I've seen - which mentions or addresses this issue. Dell had not once during my many discussions with them made any mention of the USB connector; to make certain it wasn't connected. Once again, I'd like to offer my sincere thanks to all those who came to my aid during this most vexing of problems. :-) I hope this will be of some help to any person who might be faced with a similar condition. Cheers. -- LuckyStrike How to make a good newsgroup post: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ |
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Windows refuses to shutdown or restart / W98se shutdown problem - RESOLVED
"Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Just on a point of fact.... Windows 98SE supports USB1.1 out-of-the-box, but needs additional drivers to be able to support USB2.0 Thanks for the 'tip' Noel. '-) Now, to run a USB 2.0 Item which accepts USB 1.1 (as does my older 40 GB iPod) but to achieve USB 2.0 Data Transfer speeds, one would need a USB 2.0 Card, would they not ? The INF file shows no such drivers for the monitor's USB hub (for that it what it is - hopefully a powered one!), and it may be that WIn98 just took it for a USB1.1 hub (which it had every right to expect would work - USB2 is designed explicitly to be backward-compatible!), The Device name associated with that PITA "event" we've just gone throuugh was named "Generic USB (hub ?) something or other". I don't recollect, but of course could re-enabled the thing and see. but that some error in manufacture and/or design meant that it wasn't fully compatible. This should have been visible in Device Manager, if both had been right! If it initially was there from the get-go as an error, it sure would have simplified matters, but strangely enough, it wasn't until we did the T-Shoot # 12 that it made it's presence known as being "faulty". It sure was an 'odd situation', that's all I can say. :-/ Whatever - looks like you've got yourself a nice monitor I like it a lot more now. LOL. which will be suitable for you when you eventually upgrade to XP, LS!! vbeg Yah.... right ! lol ,,, and we both learned a few things along the way I will refrain from asking what you might have garnered in the way of knowledge from this; it might embarrass me. g But I sure learned quite a bit. Thanks. '-)) Enjoy your shutdowns! You BET !!. Thanks ! s -- LuckyStrike The best Tweak and your ally for IE = **Disable Active Scripting** http://www.helpwithwindows.com/techfiles/surf-safe.html How to make a good newsgroup post: http://www.dts-l.org/html/goodpost.html ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "LuckyStrike" om wrote in message ... Windows refuses to shutdown or restart - encapsulated - RESOLVED W98se Shutdown Problem - RESOLVED in reference to threads: Posted as a new Post because this *Solved* post has been placed at the very bottom of each of the aforementioned threads. This has been resolved thanks to the kind and untiring efforts of Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) who stuck with me throughout this thread and issue. A number of others who are known to me also paid a brief (or not so brief visit, and you know who you are PCR. s) Since I've used so much bandwidth here I might as well try to explain for the possible benefit of others who may find themselves facing a similar problem with the same Monitor and USB 1.1 Summary: If you have Win98se with USB 1.1 and this Dell 1907FP Flat Panel Monitor, *Do Not* connect the USB 2.0 Upstream port on the monitor to the Computers USB 1.1 Port. The setup instructs one to connect the USB cable between PC and Monitor and makes no statement anywhere that it is ancillary and not needed for operation of the monitor. I suspect that this will continue to be the case as W98se will become more and more "ignored" now that it is a documented *unsupported OS* The root cause (which may also be spiced up with a little of my own ignorant stupidity) appeared to be related to a faulty Device related to the USB Controllers. But actually more specifically related to one of two things with this new Dell 1970FP Monitor (Flat Panel LCD Display). For more details, read onward, otherwise, the basic short summary above serves to shed light on the cause, effect.and solution. My W98se is installed in a very late model of an Optiplex GX240 PC. As I understand it, W98se supports USB 2.0, but as it comes, the hardware installed in it is only USB 1.1 This Flat Panel monitor *may or may not be supported by W98se*. It is now fairly well established that the driver supplied for it on the "Install Disk " is NOT W98se supported, but is solely for WinXP and WinXP x 64 (64 bit). It *may possibly* be supported by W2k as well, but in fact, Dell's available documentation contradicts itself. If someone desires evidence of this, juts look about their website in the downloads area. Enter the model number of your Dell enter your OS platform go to the Drivers/Downloads Display. The info which is from the Readme and INF file for the Driver from the CD if anyone wishes to see that will be found in this thread: Be that as it may, that is not the actual problem, as in fact, the Monitor does work. It may or may not be working at an optimum level (unknown by me; never had one of these FP LCD Monitors before) and it does display some "unfamiliar characteristics" and slightly disturbing graphical features. Now, the one crux of the issue is this: This monitor is supplied with an input connection for USB. From the monitor are 5 USB outputs. The Monitor is able to only manage 2.0 USB and not 1.1 USB. It matters not if a secondary device is attached to the Monitors USB 2.0 output. The Computer Operating System will hang at Shutdown or Restart. There is no documentation elsewhere - that I've seen - which mentions or addresses this issue. Dell had not once during my many discussions with them made any mention of the USB connector; to make certain it wasn't connected. Once again, I'd like to offer my sincere thanks to all those who came to my aid during this most vexing of problems. :-) I hope this will be of some help to any person who might be faced with a similar condition. Cheers. -- LuckyStrike How to make a good newsgroup post: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ |
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Windows refuses to shutdown or restart / W98se shutdown problem - RESOLVED
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:41:07 -0600, "LuckyStrike"
om put finger to keyboard and composed: Windows refuses to shutdown or restart - encapsulated - RESOLVED W98se Shutdown Problem - RESOLVED in reference to threads: Posted as a new Post because this *Solved* post has been placed at the very bottom of each of the aforementioned threads. This has been resolved thanks to the kind and untiring efforts of Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) who stuck with me throughout this thread and issue. A number of others who are known to me also paid a brief (or not so brief visit, and you know who you are PCR. s) Since I've used so much bandwidth here I might as well try to explain for the possible benefit of others who may find themselves facing a similar problem with the same Monitor and USB 1.1 Summary: If you have Win98se with USB 1.1 and this Dell 1907FP Flat Panel Monitor, *Do Not* connect the USB 2.0 Upstream port on the monitor to the Computers USB 1.1 Port. The setup instructs one to connect the USB cable between PC and Monitor and makes no statement anywhere that it is ancillary and not needed for operation of the monitor. I suspect that this will continue to be the case as W98se will become more and more "ignored" now that it is a documented *unsupported OS* The root cause (which may also be spiced up with a little of my own ignorant stupidity) appeared to be related to a faulty Device related to the USB Controllers. But actually more specifically related to one of two things with this new Dell 1970FP Monitor (Flat Panel LCD Display). For more details, read onward, otherwise, the basic short summary above serves to shed light on the cause, effect.and solution. My W98se is installed in a very late model of an Optiplex GX240 PC. As I understand it, W98se supports USB 2.0, but as it comes, the hardware installed in it is only USB 1.1 This Flat Panel monitor *may or may not be supported by W98se*. It is now fairly well established that the driver supplied for it on the "Install Disk " is NOT W98se supported, but is solely for WinXP and WinXP x 64 (64 bit). It *may possibly* be supported by W2k as well, but in fact, Dell's available documentation contradicts itself. If someone desires evidence of this, juts look about their website in the downloads area. Enter the model number of your Dell enter your OS platform go to the Drivers/Downloads Display. The info which is from the Readme and INF file for the Driver from the CD if anyone wishes to see that will be found in this thread: Be that as it may, that is not the actual problem, as in fact, the Monitor does work. It may or may not be working at an optimum level (unknown by me; never had one of these FP LCD Monitors before) and it does display some "unfamiliar characteristics" and slightly disturbing graphical features. The signature of your .INF file is "Chicago". As pointed out by PCR, this means that the "driver" is universal, ie it should work with Win9x. My flat panel monitor's INF has this same signature. FWIW, the monitor stuff appears to be written to this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor\000n Your INF appears to allow only one resolution, namely the native 1280 x 1024. Mine allows three. The .ICM file appears to provide the numbers for the ICMProfile parameter. Try copying the 1907FP.icm file to your Windows\System\Color folder. Then r-click a blank area of your desktop and select Properties - Settings - Advanced - Color Management. Try the new ICM profile. Are the colours any better? BTW, I tried using your monitor's ICM profile with my 15" Mitsubishi DV152. I saw no difference, but then I'm colour blind. Nothing broke in any case. Now, the one crux of the issue is this: This monitor is supplied with an input connection for USB. From the monitor are 5 USB outputs. The Monitor is able to only manage 2.0 USB and not 1.1 USB. This URL suggests that the USB interface is downward compatible: http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...P/en/about.htm The USB section is in the middle of the page. It matters not if a secondary device is attached to the Monitors USB 2.0 output. The Computer Operating System will hang at Shutdown or Restart. So the monitor has a 4-port USB hub? Wouldn't a driver be required for this? FWIW, I can't find one on Dell's website. Is that because XP supports it natively? There is a utility on your Win98SE CD named usbview.exe. AFAIK, it detects all USB ports and devices, whether or not drivers have been loaded. You can also obtain it he ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/Services/Tec...SE/USBVIEW.EXE Does usbview find the monitor's USB ports? Does it report a Vendor and Product ID? If so, then you may be able to find generic chipset-based drivers for it. There is no documentation elsewhere - that I've seen - which mentions or addresses this issue. Dell had not once during my many discussions with them made any mention of the USB connector; to make certain it wasn't connected. Once again, I'd like to offer my sincere thanks to all those who came to my aid during this most vexing of problems. :-) I hope this will be of some help to any person who might be faced with a similar condition. Cheers. This site might be helpful: http://www.usbman.com/win98seusbguide.htm - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Windows refuses to shutdown or restart / W98se shutdown problem - RESOLVED
Now to get some sleep, maybe?
-- Curt BD-MVBT http://dundats.mvps.org/ http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi http://www.aumha.org/ "Franc Zabkar" wrote in message news On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:41:07 -0600, "LuckyStrike" om put finger to keyboard and composed: Windows refuses to shutdown or restart - encapsulated - RESOLVED W98se Shutdown Problem - RESOLVED in reference to threads: Posted as a new Post because this *Solved* post has been placed at the very bottom of each of the aforementioned threads. This has been resolved thanks to the kind and untiring efforts of Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) who stuck with me throughout this thread and issue. A number of others who are known to me also paid a brief (or not so brief visit, and you know who you are PCR. s) Since I've used so much bandwidth here I might as well try to explain for the possible benefit of others who may find themselves facing a similar problem with the same Monitor and USB 1.1 Summary: If you have Win98se with USB 1.1 and this Dell 1907FP Flat Panel Monitor, *Do Not* connect the USB 2.0 Upstream port on the monitor to the Computers USB 1.1 Port. The setup instructs one to connect the USB cable between PC and Monitor and makes no statement anywhere that it is ancillary and not needed for operation of the monitor. I suspect that this will continue to be the case as W98se will become more and more "ignored" now that it is a documented *unsupported OS* The root cause (which may also be spiced up with a little of my own ignorant stupidity) appeared to be related to a faulty Device related to the USB Controllers. But actually more specifically related to one of two things with this new Dell 1970FP Monitor (Flat Panel LCD Display). For more details, read onward, otherwise, the basic short summary above serves to shed light on the cause, effect.and solution. My W98se is installed in a very late model of an Optiplex GX240 PC. As I understand it, W98se supports USB 2.0, but as it comes, the hardware installed in it is only USB 1.1 This Flat Panel monitor *may or may not be supported by W98se*. It is now fairly well established that the driver supplied for it on the "Install Disk " is NOT W98se supported, but is solely for WinXP and WinXP x 64 (64 bit). It *may possibly* be supported by W2k as well, but in fact, Dell's available documentation contradicts itself. If someone desires evidence of this, juts look about their website in the downloads area. Enter the model number of your Dell enter your OS platform go to the Drivers/Downloads Display. The info which is from the Readme and INF file for the Driver from the CD if anyone wishes to see that will be found in this thread: Be that as it may, that is not the actual problem, as in fact, the Monitor does work. It may or may not be working at an optimum level (unknown by me; never had one of these FP LCD Monitors before) and it does display some "unfamiliar characteristics" and slightly disturbing graphical features. The signature of your .INF file is "Chicago". As pointed out by PCR, this means that the "driver" is universal, ie it should work with Win9x. My flat panel monitor's INF has this same signature. FWIW, the monitor stuff appears to be written to this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor\000n Your INF appears to allow only one resolution, namely the native 1280 x 1024. Mine allows three. The .ICM file appears to provide the numbers for the ICMProfile parameter. Try copying the 1907FP.icm file to your Windows\System\Color folder. Then r-click a blank area of your desktop and select Properties - Settings - Advanced - Color Management. Try the new ICM profile. Are the colours any better? BTW, I tried using your monitor's ICM profile with my 15" Mitsubishi DV152. I saw no difference, but then I'm colour blind. Nothing broke in any case. Now, the one crux of the issue is this: This monitor is supplied with an input connection for USB. From the monitor are 5 USB outputs. The Monitor is able to only manage 2.0 USB and not 1.1 USB. This URL suggests that the USB interface is downward compatible: http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...P/en/about.htm The USB section is in the middle of the page. It matters not if a secondary device is attached to the Monitors USB 2.0 output. The Computer Operating System will hang at Shutdown or Restart. So the monitor has a 4-port USB hub? Wouldn't a driver be required for this? FWIW, I can't find one on Dell's website. Is that because XP supports it natively? There is a utility on your Win98SE CD named usbview.exe. AFAIK, it detects all USB ports and devices, whether or not drivers have been loaded. You can also obtain it he ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/Services/Tec...SE/USBVIEW.EXE Does usbview find the monitor's USB ports? Does it report a Vendor and Product ID? If so, then you may be able to find generic chipset-based drivers for it. There is no documentation elsewhere - that I've seen - which mentions or addresses this issue. Dell had not once during my many discussions with them made any mention of the USB connector; to make certain it wasn't connected. Once again, I'd like to offer my sincere thanks to all those who came to my aid during this most vexing of problems. :-) I hope this will be of some help to any person who might be faced with a similar condition. Cheers. This site might be helpful: http://www.usbman.com/win98seusbguide.htm - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Windows refuses to shutdown or restart / W98se shutdown problem - RESOLVED
HELPFUL you say Franc, I think its bl**dy marvellous.
It will save many questions in this group and looks to be an excellent learning curve site, plenty of Links upon Links upon Links. Cheers Gekko (\(\ (\(\ ( -.-) ( -.-) o_(")(") o(")(")mr & mrs B This site might be helpful: http://www.usbman.com/win98seusbguide.htm - Franc Zabkar |
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Windows refuses to shutdown or restart / W98se shutdown problem - RESOLVED
Greetings Franc
in-line / snipped "Franc Zabkar" wrote in message news On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:41:07 -0600, "LuckyStrike" om put finger to keyboard and composed: Windows refuses to shutdown or restart - encapsulated - RESOLVED W98se Shutdown Problem - RESOLVED in reference to threads: snipped Summary: If you have Win98se with USB 1.1 and this Dell 1907FP Flat Panel Monitor, *Do Not* connect the USB 2.0 Upstream port on the monitor to the Computers USB 1.1 Port. The setup instructs one to connect the USB cable between PC and Monitor and makes no statement anywhere that it is ancillary and not needed for operation of the monitor. snipped The root cause (which may also be spiced up with a little of my own ignorant stupidity) appeared to be related to a faulty Device related to the USB Controllers. But actually more specifically related to one of two things with this new Dell 1970FP Monitor (Flat Panel LCD Display). snipped This Flat Panel monitor *may or may not be supported by W98se*. It is now fairly well established that the driver supplied for it on the "Install Disk " is NOT W98se supported, but is solely for WinXP and WinXP x 64 (64 bit). It *may possibly* be supported by W2k as well, but in fact, Dell's available documentation contradicts itself. snipped The info which is from the Readme and INF file for the Driver from the CD if anyone wishes to see that will be found in this thread: Be that as it may, that is not the actual problem, as in fact, the Monitor does work. It may or may not be working at an optimum level (unknown by me; never had one of these FP LCD Monitors before) and it does display some "unfamiliar characteristics" and slightly disturbing graphical features. The signature of your .INF file is "Chicago". As pointed out by PCR, this means that the "driver" is universal, ie it should work with Win9x. My flat panel monitor's INF has this same signature. Oh, OK. Is that what the "cryptic" "Chicago" means then ? Learn something all the time here. :-)) FWIW, the monitor stuff appears to be written to this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor\000n I looked into that key and exported it for study (IF - as if - I'd know what it actually all meant. lol) -- But good thing I have, because since this last writing, I have updated both my 32MB ATI Rage Ultra 128 Vid Card driver *and* have "installed* the 1907FP.INI (as per DELL's instructions to do so. No effect. Have also Flashed BIOS from A02 to A05 (successfuly, thank the lawd). Still no effect. Apparently that BIOS revision was supposed to address some USB Hub issues, but in my case, it did nothing positive in that regard. Your INF appears to allow only one resolution, namely the native 1280 x 1024. Mine allows three. Yes, I saw that there was only one line in that 'sector', and it read just as you've written. The .ICM file appears to provide the numbers for the ICMProfile parameter. That's what I understood it to be. Try copying the 1907FP.icm file to your Windows\System\Color folder. Then r-click a blank area of your desktop and select Properties - Settings - Advanced - Color Management. Try the new ICM profile. Are the colours any better? I saw nothing appreciably different even after having imported that "color profile". BTW, I tried using your monitor's ICM profile with my 15" Mitsubishi DV152. I saw no difference, but then I'm colour blind. Nothing broke in any case. LOL. Courageous fellow. s "Nothing Broke...." said Franc. VBG Now, the one crux of the issue is this: This monitor is supplied with an input connection for USB. From the monitor are 5 USB outputs. The Monitor is able to only manage 2.0 USB and not 1.1 USB. This URL suggests that the USB interface is downward compatible: http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...P/en/about.htm The USB section is in the middle of the page. Yeah... I had seen that. But, I don't see anything (but maybe i'm more than simply 'color blind'. g) that clearly states backward-compatibility. Could you clarify or point that out ? Perhaps it's "implied" by virtue of having not stated otherwise ? I mean -- it doesn't say "Don't use with USB 1.1". I will add that Dell tech was baffled by this as well. They claim it should work. It matters not if a secondary device is attached to the Monitors USB 2.0 output. The Computer Operating System will hang at Shutdown or Restart. So the monitor has a 4-port USB hub? Apparently yes. One IN from PC to Monitor; 4 OUT to whatever USB devices one might have. He Bottom view http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...out.htm#Bottom View Side view http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...about.htm#Side View Wouldn't a driver be required for this? Logically (?), one would suspect that would be a requirement I'd suppose (?) But, you are theoretically asking the wrong guy. I have little knowledge when it comes to all of that. Surely, far less than you and most people here. FWIW, I can't find one on Dell's website. Is that because XP supports it natively? My knowledge of W98se is bare bones on a need to know basis as it is. XP ? I know less than little of XP. :-D But serously, I'd again suppose that there is a 8chance* that what you speak of about native support may well be true. However, that's simply a guess on my part. Unsubstatiated. There is a utility on your Win98SE CD named usbview.exe. AFAIK, it detects all USB ports and devices, whether or not drivers have been loaded. Might be a W98 item, but wasn't found "at large" on my W98se machine. True; I didn't search any Cabinet files though. However, I did download two versions (your link was the newer one of the two. Thank you). It displayed "ConnectionStatus: NoDeviceConnected". Four times total; both (2 each) in RootHub for both USB Host Controllers. (Port 1 and Port 2) You can also obtain it he ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/Services/Tec...SE/USBVIEW.EXE Yes, I did Franc. Thank you. :-) Does usbview find the monitor's USB ports? Yes, I believe it does: RootHub (two of those listed) Port 1 and Port 2 (both shown two times in both Host controllers) Does it report a Vendor and Product ID? Is this what you mean ? Intel(R) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442 Intel(R) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2444 If so, then you may be able to find generic chipset-based drivers for it. Once clarified, I might be able to seek such out if thesituation calls for it (them) ? There is no documentation elsewhere - that I've seen - which mentions or addresses this issue. Dell had not once during my many discussions with them made any mention of the USB connector; to make certain it wasn't connected. Once again, I'd like to offer my sincere thanks to all those who came to my aid during this most vexing of problems. :-) I hope this will be of some help to any person who might be faced with a similar condition. Cheers. This site might be helpful: http://www.usbman.com/win98seusbguide.htm That is a handy site. Much to look at. OF COURSE, I've not studied it in depth yet as I was preoccupied with replacement of the replacement Monitor g and Dell Tech support all morning, 'til roughly about now. lol Thank you for taking your time to read my post and offering your input; as well as the risk you took with your Mitsubishi and the (my) .INF file. LuckyStrike - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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On and off.... lol
LS ------- "Curt Christianson" wrote in message ... Now to get some sleep, maybe? -- Curt BD-MVBT http://dundats.mvps.org/ http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi http://www.aumha.org/ "Franc Zabkar" wrote in message news On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:41:07 -0600, "LuckyStrike" om put finger to keyboard and composed: Windows refuses to shutdown or restart - encapsulated - RESOLVED W98se Shutdown Problem - RESOLVED snipped |
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Windows refuses to shutdown or restart / W98se shutdown problem - RESOLVED
That's a very cute and charming "sig" Gekko. :-))))
And yeah... that Franc link of info and link upon link...ad infinitum... IS good. A keeper. BTW, getting your stuff sorted out yet ? -- LuckyStrike The best Tweak and your ally for IE = **Disable Active Scripting** http://www.helpwithwindows.com/techfiles/surf-safe.html How to make a good newsgroup post: http://www.dts-l.org/html/goodpost.html ------------------------------------------------------------ "Gekko" wrote in message ... HELPFUL you say Franc, I think its bl**dy marvellous. It will save many questions in this group and looks to be an excellent learning curve site, plenty of Links upon Links upon Links. Cheers Gekko (\(\ (\(\ ( -.-) ( -.-) o_(")(") o(")(")mr & mrs B This site might be helpful: http://www.usbman.com/win98seusbguide.htm - Franc Zabkar |
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