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  #41  
Old February 26th 10, 07:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_17_]
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On 02/26/2010 01:29 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
MEB wrote:

Just as you post here about malware threats that don't affect
Windows 98 users?


You got your shut up in the other postings... go somewhere else
moron.


Maurice -

Microsoft is logging your activities at this very moment. They are
logging the activity of your Microsoft groups account
). They know your posting IP address is
76.5.124.31.

Microsoft will provide all that information to any law enforcement
agency that asks for it. It need not be proven to Microsoft that the
request meets any legitamate legal standard. Judges will award access
orders to various agencies on the basis of completely specious arguments
or evidence.

Yahoo even publishs a fee list for access to such information. They
probably don't even require a court order to turn it over.

How does that make you feel?


Makes me feel warm and fuzzy...

Now perhaps you might wish to think about your own ISP, your DNS
service, and of all the other OUT HERE who are monitoring YOU merely
because you access this PAYASYOUGO Internet. Some FEES may be slightly
higher than most realize... then again those who DO understand, which
you don't, don't like some of it very much, and even take action against
it at times...

So where are your links to *YOUR* actions to prevent the unlawful
activities that might be involved?

BTW: did you BOTHER to actually LOOK at what Microsoft is doing, what
the extents are, for how long, what triggers any activity, and that
those basic materials were ALREADY posted upon Microsoft.... in fact I
would question what over-zealous party placed the take-down notice... my
guess is they were reprimanded for being stupid.

Just WHAT did/DO you think you have exposed... nothing of value.
IN STARK CONTRAST I posted links to what HAS been done with some of
that information and more importantly, WHY.

BTW: Not only Microsoft, but the federal government, federal and state
courts, state governments, and several foreign governments know EXACTLY
who I am and have MORE information than that. Can you guess WHY they
have that information.

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  #42  
Old February 26th 10, 07:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_17_]
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On 02/26/2010 01:43 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
What's your problem MEB?

I posted a link to Microsoft's information retention and disclosure
policy.

Why do you feel the need to come to Microsoft's defense? Why do you
feel the need to explain their policy or the defend the reasons why they
have one?


Because STUPID it happens to be THE LAW, here and Internationally.
You and parties like you, always attempt to make these into
"conspiracy" activities... there are some out there, but this isn't one
as YOU attempted to expose with these materials.
Now, do you have any hard documentation regarding facts in which
Microsoft HAS exceeded the requirements of Law?

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Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
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  #43  
Old February 26th 10, 07:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_17_]
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On 02/26/2010 01:43 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
What's your problem MEB?

I posted a link to Microsoft's information retention and disclosure
policy.

Why do you feel the need to come to Microsoft's defense? Why do you
feel the need to explain their policy or the defend the reasons why they
have one?


Because STUPID it happens to be THE LAW, here and Internationally.
You and parties like you, always attempt to make these into
"conspiracy" activities... there are some out there, but this isn't one
as YOU attempted to expose with these materials.
Now, do you have any hard documentation regarding facts in which
Microsoft HAS exceeded the requirements of Law?

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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  #44  
Old February 27th 10, 02:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jeff Richards
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If you have a problem with me posting that information, then why don't
you elaborate?


Come on! You knew full well what his problem was going to be. Posting that
link means that arguments about what MS does or does not do will now be
based on fact instead of being driven by paranoia, and that is going to make
some people very annoyed as it will take away their basis for sounding
important and knowledgeable.

Or maybe it won't make any difference at all.


  #45  
Old February 27th 10, 02:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jeff Richards
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If you have a problem with me posting that information, then why don't
you elaborate?


Come on! You knew full well what his problem was going to be. Posting that
link means that arguments about what MS does or does not do will now be
based on fact instead of being driven by paranoia, and that is going to make
some people very annoyed as it will take away their basis for sounding
important and knowledgeable.

Or maybe it won't make any difference at all.


  #46  
Old February 27th 10, 03:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_17_]
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On 02/26/2010 08:59 PM, Jeff Richards wrote:
If you have a problem with me posting that information, then why don't
you elaborate?


Come on! You knew full well what his problem was going to be. Posting that
link means that arguments about what MS does or does not do will now be
based on fact instead of being driven by paranoia, and that is going to make
some people very annoyed as it will take away their basis for sounding
important and knowledgeable.


Okay Jeffiepoo, how about *you* cite the exact statutes, PDD, CFR,
Act(s), and other wherein the purported document shows Microsoft has
exceeded, limited or other failed to do as required BY LAW.


Or maybe it won't make any difference at all.



Oh it did as usual, it brought you, in your apparent present form as
troll, back into this group to spout your nonsense.

HINT: the PDF shows that Microsoft is in compliance with the existing
Laws at that time. Exactly the OPPOSITE of what the intent of the post
was for... yep you guys are a real bright bunch...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #47  
Old February 27th 10, 03:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_17_]
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Default Microsoft Online Services Global Criminal Compliance Handbook

On 02/26/2010 08:59 PM, Jeff Richards wrote:
If you have a problem with me posting that information, then why don't
you elaborate?


Come on! You knew full well what his problem was going to be. Posting that
link means that arguments about what MS does or does not do will now be
based on fact instead of being driven by paranoia, and that is going to make
some people very annoyed as it will take away their basis for sounding
important and knowledgeable.


Okay Jeffiepoo, how about *you* cite the exact statutes, PDD, CFR,
Act(s), and other wherein the purported document shows Microsoft has
exceeded, limited or other failed to do as required BY LAW.


Or maybe it won't make any difference at all.



Oh it did as usual, it brought you, in your apparent present form as
troll, back into this group to spout your nonsense.

HINT: the PDF shows that Microsoft is in compliance with the existing
Laws at that time. Exactly the OPPOSITE of what the intent of the post
was for... yep you guys are a real bright bunch...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #48  
Old February 27th 10, 03:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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MEB wrote:

Now perhaps you might wish to think about your own ISP, your DNS
service, and of all the other OUT HERE who are monitoring YOU
merely because you access this PAYASYOUGO Internet.


Oh, that is classic MEB material.

payasyougo internet? You want to explain what that is?

Some FEES may be slightly higher than most realize...


Fees? WTF are you talking about?

Warning: the next MEB-statement may be flagged as sporge by
spam-detection softwa

then again those who DO understand, which you don't,
don't like some of it very much, and even take action
against it at times...


I believe that MEB was having a mini-stroke while typing the above
sentence fragment.

So where are your links to *YOUR* actions to prevent the
unlawful activities that might be involved?


Who says that the function of Microsoft's document is to "prevent
unlawful activities" ? It does nothing of the sort.

BTW: did you BOTHER to actually LOOK at what Microsoft is doing,


The document describes what information is captured or logged as the
"customer" uses the various Microsoft-provided services.

what the extents are, for how long, what triggers any
activity, and that those basic materials were ALREADY
posted upon Microsoft...


These exact details and logging time-frames have never been published by
Microsoft in any public way.

Just WHAT did/DO you think you have exposed... nothing of
value.


Then did it provoked a hysterical sequence of postings from you?

IN STARK CONTRAST I posted links to what HAS been done with
some of that information and more importantly, WHY.


You posted two URL's describing:

1) Microsoft got a court to issue a secret temporary restraining order
that took 277 domains off-line.

2) The second link you posted was just more information describing
example #1.

You are referencing a legal action undertaken by microsoft against the
operation of domains that microsoft determined was important to the
operation of a botnet.

There is absolutely no indication that the current topic of this thread
(Microsoft Online Services Global Criminal Compliance Handbook) was in
any linked to the legal action that you reference.

BTW: Not only Microsoft, but the federal government, federal and
state courts, state governments, and several foreign governments
know EXACTLY who I am and have MORE information than that. Can
you guess WHY they have that information.


Yes, I can. I can do more than guess. I've read those documents.

Various state and local gov'ts (particularly Kentucky) know about you
because you're a mentally unstable crackpot. You tried to get the
supreme court of Kentucky to convene a grand jury to hear evidence that
the state gov't of Kentucky was being operated by an organized criminal
gang.
  #49  
Old February 27th 10, 03:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Default Microsoft Online Services Global Criminal Compliance Handbook

MEB wrote:

Now perhaps you might wish to think about your own ISP, your DNS
service, and of all the other OUT HERE who are monitoring YOU
merely because you access this PAYASYOUGO Internet.


Oh, that is classic MEB material.

payasyougo internet? You want to explain what that is?

Some FEES may be slightly higher than most realize...


Fees? WTF are you talking about?

Warning: the next MEB-statement may be flagged as sporge by
spam-detection softwa

then again those who DO understand, which you don't,
don't like some of it very much, and even take action
against it at times...


I believe that MEB was having a mini-stroke while typing the above
sentence fragment.

So where are your links to *YOUR* actions to prevent the
unlawful activities that might be involved?


Who says that the function of Microsoft's document is to "prevent
unlawful activities" ? It does nothing of the sort.

BTW: did you BOTHER to actually LOOK at what Microsoft is doing,


The document describes what information is captured or logged as the
"customer" uses the various Microsoft-provided services.

what the extents are, for how long, what triggers any
activity, and that those basic materials were ALREADY
posted upon Microsoft...


These exact details and logging time-frames have never been published by
Microsoft in any public way.

Just WHAT did/DO you think you have exposed... nothing of
value.


Then did it provoked a hysterical sequence of postings from you?

IN STARK CONTRAST I posted links to what HAS been done with
some of that information and more importantly, WHY.


You posted two URL's describing:

1) Microsoft got a court to issue a secret temporary restraining order
that took 277 domains off-line.

2) The second link you posted was just more information describing
example #1.

You are referencing a legal action undertaken by microsoft against the
operation of domains that microsoft determined was important to the
operation of a botnet.

There is absolutely no indication that the current topic of this thread
(Microsoft Online Services Global Criminal Compliance Handbook) was in
any linked to the legal action that you reference.

BTW: Not only Microsoft, but the federal government, federal and
state courts, state governments, and several foreign governments
know EXACTLY who I am and have MORE information than that. Can
you guess WHY they have that information.


Yes, I can. I can do more than guess. I've read those documents.

Various state and local gov'ts (particularly Kentucky) know about you
because you're a mentally unstable crackpot. You tried to get the
supreme court of Kentucky to convene a grand jury to hear evidence that
the state gov't of Kentucky was being operated by an organized criminal
gang.
  #50  
Old February 27th 10, 05:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_17_]
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On 02/26/2010 09:58 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
MEB wrote:

Now perhaps you might wish to think about your own ISP, your DNS
service, and of all the other OUT HERE who are monitoring YOU
merely because you access this PAYASYOUGO Internet.



Let me finish this nonsense you and the rest of the morons on the
planet seem to love to talk about in your mindless discussions and
baseless conspiracy theories.

Go here since the Law applied is the United States' in discussions
concerning Microsoft, this group, your access, and other applicable:

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/index.html

ALL of your stupid little questions will be answered, and your ignorant
little theories will wash down the drain.

Search for IP caching, and like aspects of TCP/IP activities and the
Internet if you can't figure out the quoted material, I'm not wasting
anymore of my time on a moron.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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