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Old January 15th 05, 04:25 AM
bgosper
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Default USB Card/PCI Network Card Conflict??

I installed a 2.0 5 port PCI USB card as an upgrade in my Win 98 SE PC. Now,
when I try to use a usb device through this card and at the same time open my
web browser thru my highspeed card, my pc shuts down and reboots to scan disk
automatically. I assume there must be a conflict between these two devices
although there is no conflict shown in the device manager profile. IF I use
the USB card without trying to open my broweser, it appears to work fine as
well as if I just open my browser without using the USB card there is no
problem. I know this is the problem because if I take the card out,
everything returns to normal and I can use the old on board USB ports no
problem. PLEASE HELP!
  #2  
Old January 15th 05, 04:37 AM
bgosper
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Also, the IRQs for the network card and the USB card are different and I
tried moving the USB card to a different PCI slot ---no difference.

"bgosper" wrote:

I installed a 2.0 5 port PCI USB card as an upgrade in my Win 98 SE PC. Now,
when I try to use a usb device through this card and at the same time open my
web browser thru my highspeed card, my pc shuts down and reboots to scan disk
automatically. I assume there must be a conflict between these two devices
although there is no conflict shown in the device manager profile. IF I use
the USB card without trying to open my broweser, it appears to work fine as
well as if I just open my browser without using the USB card there is no
problem. I know this is the problem because if I take the card out,
everything returns to normal and I can use the old on board USB ports no
problem. PLEASE HELP!

  #3  
Old January 15th 05, 04:46 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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You've tried all combinations of USB and Network card placements? The
network card *is* a PCI card, right? Or is it onboard?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"bgosper" wrote in message
...
Also, the IRQs for the network card and the USB card are different and

I
tried moving the USB card to a different PCI slot ---no difference.

"bgosper" wrote:

I installed a 2.0 5 port PCI USB card as an upgrade in my Win 98 SE

PC. Now,
when I try to use a usb device through this card and at the same

time open my
web browser thru my highspeed card, my pc shuts down and reboots to

scan disk
automatically. I assume there must be a conflict between these two

devices
although there is no conflict shown in the device manager profile.

IF I use
the USB card without trying to open my broweser, it appears to work

fine as
well as if I just open my browser without using the USB card there

is no
problem. I know this is the problem because if I take the card out,
everything returns to normal and I can use the old on board USB

ports no
problem. PLEASE HELP!


  #4  
Old January 15th 05, 01:55 PM
bgosper
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I tried one other slot only, the other few are being occupied. Yes it is PCI.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

You've tried all combinations of USB and Network card placements? The
network card *is* a PCI card, right? Or is it onboard?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"bgosper" wrote in message
...
Also, the IRQs for the network card and the USB card are different and

I
tried moving the USB card to a different PCI slot ---no difference.

"bgosper" wrote:

I installed a 2.0 5 port PCI USB card as an upgrade in my Win 98 SE

PC. Now,
when I try to use a usb device through this card and at the same

time open my
web browser thru my highspeed card, my pc shuts down and reboots to

scan disk
automatically. I assume there must be a conflict between these two

devices
although there is no conflict shown in the device manager profile.

IF I use
the USB card without trying to open my broweser, it appears to work

fine as
well as if I just open my browser without using the USB card there

is no
problem. I know this is the problem because if I take the card out,
everything returns to normal and I can use the old on board USB

ports no
problem. PLEASE HELP!



  #5  
Old January 15th 05, 03:07 PM
Dan
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Is it possible to have the card in and view the Device Manager or does the
computer automatically reset whenever the card is installed? I am trying to
say is there any way you can get to normal Windows or even graphical safe
mode Windows to access the device manager for a possible driver
misinstallation or driver conflict?

"bgosper" wrote in message
...
: I tried one other slot only, the other few are being occupied. Yes it is
PCI.
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
:
: You've tried all combinations of USB and Network card placements? The
: network card *is* a PCI card, right? Or is it onboard?
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "bgosper" wrote in message
: ...
: Also, the IRQs for the network card and the USB card are different and
: I
: tried moving the USB card to a different PCI slot ---no difference.
:
: "bgosper" wrote:
:
: I installed a 2.0 5 port PCI USB card as an upgrade in my Win 98 SE
: PC. Now,
: when I try to use a usb device through this card and at the same
: time open my
: web browser thru my highspeed card, my pc shuts down and reboots to
: scan disk
: automatically. I assume there must be a conflict between these two
: devices
: although there is no conflict shown in the device manager profile.
: IF I use
: the USB card without trying to open my broweser, it appears to work
: fine as
: well as if I just open my browser without using the USB card there
: is no
: problem. I know this is the problem because if I take the card out,
: everything returns to normal and I can use the old on board USB
: ports no
: problem. PLEASE HELP!
:
:


  #6  
Old January 15th 05, 05:15 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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Well, all I can say is that I'd try other placements. Otherwise, I'd
probably go into Safe Mode Device Manager and remove all USB devices,
and all network devices, then restart and let them be reinstalled. Also,
check for new drivers for both devices. Consider replacing one or the
other with a different model.... The drastic option is to delete the
entire ENUM key (where all devices installations are stored), restart
and let Windows rebuild the entire Hardware Profile.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"bgosper" wrote in message
...
I tried one other slot only, the other few are being occupied. Yes it

is PCI.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

You've tried all combinations of USB and Network card placements?

The
network card *is* a PCI card, right? Or is it onboard?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"bgosper" wrote in message
...
Also, the IRQs for the network card and the USB card are different

and
I
tried moving the USB card to a different PCI slot ---no

difference.

"bgosper" wrote:

I installed a 2.0 5 port PCI USB card as an upgrade in my Win 98

SE
PC. Now,
when I try to use a usb device through this card and at the same

time open my
web browser thru my highspeed card, my pc shuts down and reboots

to
scan disk
automatically. I assume there must be a conflict between these

two
devices
although there is no conflict shown in the device manager

profile.
IF I use
the USB card without trying to open my broweser, it appears to

work
fine as
well as if I just open my browser without using the USB card

there
is no
problem. I know this is the problem because if I take the card

out,
everything returns to normal and I can use the old on board USB

ports no
problem. PLEASE HELP!




  #7  
Old January 15th 05, 06:31 PM
Dan
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BTW, Gary how do you delete the entire ENUM key? Do you mean that when you
are in *graphical* safe mode that you just delete everything? Can you use
shift or some other key to do this more quickly? I am not planning on doing
this (at least not today -- eg) and I solved my driver problem --- thanks
to Jeff Richards - he was able to point out that it was SIS device and I
determined that the device was on my motherboard cd and I had to point that ?
to the right place on the motherboard cd and install the driver and now
everything works fine. : Hopefully, I will not have any more issues on the
98SE side for a while. The XP Pro. side still needs work but I want to have
the 98SE side working great and then I will focus more on maintenence on the
XP Pro. side of my dual-boot system. Have a great day!

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: Well, all I can say is that I'd try other placements. Otherwise, I'd
: probably go into Safe Mode Device Manager and remove all USB devices,
: and all network devices, then restart and let them be reinstalled. Also,
: check for new drivers for both devices. Consider replacing one or the
: other with a different model.... The drastic option is to delete the
: entire ENUM key (where all devices installations are stored), restart
: and let Windows rebuild the entire Hardware Profile.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "bgosper" wrote in message
: ...
: I tried one other slot only, the other few are being occupied. Yes it
: is PCI.
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
:
: You've tried all combinations of USB and Network card placements?
: The
: network card *is* a PCI card, right? Or is it onboard?
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "bgosper" wrote in message
: ...
: Also, the IRQs for the network card and the USB card are different
: and
: I
: tried moving the USB card to a different PCI slot ---no
: difference.
:
: "bgosper" wrote:
:
: I installed a 2.0 5 port PCI USB card as an upgrade in my Win 98
: SE
: PC. Now,
: when I try to use a usb device through this card and at the same
: time open my
: web browser thru my highspeed card, my pc shuts down and reboots
: to
: scan disk
: automatically. I assume there must be a conflict between these
: two
: devices
: although there is no conflict shown in the device manager
: profile.
: IF I use
: the USB card without trying to open my broweser, it appears to
: work
: fine as
: well as if I just open my browser without using the USB card
: there
: is no
: problem. I know this is the problem because if I take the card
: out,
: everything returns to normal and I can use the old on board USB
: ports no
: problem. PLEASE HELP!
:
:
:


  #8  
Old January 15th 05, 06:34 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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Default

It's a Registry hack, and no, I'm not going to tell you where it is or
how to delete it, bg.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Dan" wrote in message
...
BTW, Gary how do you delete the entire ENUM key? Do you mean that

when you
are in *graphical* safe mode that you just delete everything? Can you

use
shift or some other key to do this more quickly? I am not planning on

doing
this (at least not today -- eg) and I solved my driver problem ---

thanks
to Jeff Richards - he was able to point out that it was SIS device and

I
determined that the device was on my motherboard cd and I had to point

that ?
to the right place on the motherboard cd and install the driver and

now
everything works fine. : Hopefully, I will not have any more issues

on the
98SE side for a while. The XP Pro. side still needs work but I want

to have
the 98SE side working great and then I will focus more on maintenence

on the
XP Pro. side of my dual-boot system. Have a great day!

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: Well, all I can say is that I'd try other placements. Otherwise, I'd
: probably go into Safe Mode Device Manager and remove all USB

devices,
: and all network devices, then restart and let them be reinstalled.

Also,
: check for new drivers for both devices. Consider replacing one or

the
: other with a different model.... The drastic option is to delete

the
: entire ENUM key (where all devices installations are stored),

restart
: and let Windows rebuild the entire Hardware Profile.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "bgosper" wrote in message
: ...
: I tried one other slot only, the other few are being occupied. Yes

it
: is PCI.
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
:
: You've tried all combinations of USB and Network card

placements?
: The
: network card *is* a PCI card, right? Or is it onboard?
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "bgosper" wrote in message
: ...
: Also, the IRQs for the network card and the USB card are

different
: and
: I
: tried moving the USB card to a different PCI slot ---no
: difference.
:
: "bgosper" wrote:
:
: I installed a 2.0 5 port PCI USB card as an upgrade in my

Win 98
: SE
: PC. Now,
: when I try to use a usb device through this card and at the

same
: time open my
: web browser thru my highspeed card, my pc shuts down and

reboots
: to
: scan disk
: automatically. I assume there must be a conflict between

these
: two
: devices
: although there is no conflict shown in the device manager
: profile.
: IF I use
: the USB card without trying to open my broweser, it appears

to
: work
: fine as
: well as if I just open my browser without using the USB card
: there
: is no
: problem. I know this is the problem because if I take the

card
: out,
: everything returns to normal and I can use the old on board

USB
: ports no
: problem. PLEASE HELP!
:
:
:



  #9  
Old January 15th 05, 06:47 PM
Dan
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I guess I will have to discover it out for myself when I get around to it.
big smile

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: It's a Registry hack, and no, I'm not going to tell you where it is or
: how to delete it, bg.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: BTW, Gary how do you delete the entire ENUM key? Do you mean that
: when you
: are in *graphical* safe mode that you just delete everything? Can you
: use
: shift or some other key to do this more quickly? I am not planning on
: doing
: this (at least not today -- eg) and I solved my driver problem ---
: thanks
: to Jeff Richards - he was able to point out that it was SIS device and
: I
: determined that the device was on my motherboard cd and I had to point
: that ?
: to the right place on the motherboard cd and install the driver and
: now
: everything works fine. : Hopefully, I will not have any more issues
: on the
: 98SE side for a while. The XP Pro. side still needs work but I want
: to have
: the 98SE side working great and then I will focus more on maintenence
: on the
: XP Pro. side of my dual-boot system. Have a great day!
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
: ...
: : Well, all I can say is that I'd try other placements. Otherwise, I'd
: : probably go into Safe Mode Device Manager and remove all USB
: devices,
: : and all network devices, then restart and let them be reinstalled.
: Also,
: : check for new drivers for both devices. Consider replacing one or
: the
: : other with a different model.... The drastic option is to delete
: the
: : entire ENUM key (where all devices installations are stored),
: restart
: : and let Windows rebuild the entire Hardware Profile.
: :
: : --
: : Gary S. Terhune
: : MS MVP Shell/User
: :
: : "bgosper" wrote in message
: : ...
: : I tried one other slot only, the other few are being occupied. Yes
: it
: : is PCI.
: :
: : "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
: :
: : You've tried all combinations of USB and Network card
: placements?
: : The
: : network card *is* a PCI card, right? Or is it onboard?
: :
: : --
: : Gary S. Terhune
: : MS MVP Shell/User
: :
: : "bgosper" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Also, the IRQs for the network card and the USB card are
: different
: : and
: : I
: : tried moving the USB card to a different PCI slot ---no
: : difference.
: :
: : "bgosper" wrote:
: :
: : I installed a 2.0 5 port PCI USB card as an upgrade in my
: Win 98
: : SE
: : PC. Now,
: : when I try to use a usb device through this card and at the
: same
: : time open my
: : web browser thru my highspeed card, my pc shuts down and
: reboots
: : to
: : scan disk
: : automatically. I assume there must be a conflict between
: these
: : two
: : devices
: : although there is no conflict shown in the device manager
: : profile.
: : IF I use
: : the USB card without trying to open my broweser, it appears
: to
: : work
: : fine as
: : well as if I just open my browser without using the USB card
: : there
: : is no
: : problem. I know this is the problem because if I take the
: card
: : out,
: : everything returns to normal and I can use the old on board
: USB
: : ports no
: : problem. PLEASE HELP!
: :
: :
: :
:
:
:


  #10  
Old January 15th 05, 07:25 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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Or, you could Google it...

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Dan" wrote in message
...
I guess I will have to discover it out for myself when I get around to

it.
big smile

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: It's a Registry hack, and no, I'm not going to tell you where it is

or
: how to delete it, bg.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: BTW, Gary how do you delete the entire ENUM key? Do you mean that
: when you
: are in *graphical* safe mode that you just delete everything? Can

you
: use
: shift or some other key to do this more quickly? I am not

planning on
: doing
: this (at least not today -- eg) and I solved my driver

problem ---
: thanks
: to Jeff Richards - he was able to point out that it was SIS device

and
: I
: determined that the device was on my motherboard cd and I had to

point
: that ?
: to the right place on the motherboard cd and install the driver

and
: now
: everything works fine. : Hopefully, I will not have any more

issues
: on the
: 98SE side for a while. The XP Pro. side still needs work but I

want
: to have
: the 98SE side working great and then I will focus more on

maintenence
: on the
: XP Pro. side of my dual-boot system. Have a great day!
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
: ...
: : Well, all I can say is that I'd try other placements. Otherwise,

I'd
: : probably go into Safe Mode Device Manager and remove all USB
: devices,
: : and all network devices, then restart and let them be

reinstalled.
: Also,
: : check for new drivers for both devices. Consider replacing one

or
: the
: : other with a different model.... The drastic option is to

delete
: the
: : entire ENUM key (where all devices installations are stored),
: restart
: : and let Windows rebuild the entire Hardware Profile.
: :
: : --
: : Gary S. Terhune
: : MS MVP Shell/User
: :
: : "bgosper" wrote in message
: : ...
: : I tried one other slot only, the other few are being occupied.

Yes
: it
: : is PCI.
: :
: : "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
: :
: : You've tried all combinations of USB and Network card
: placements?
: : The
: : network card *is* a PCI card, right? Or is it onboard?
: :
: : --
: : Gary S. Terhune
: : MS MVP Shell/User
: :
: : "bgosper" wrote in

message
: : ...
: : Also, the IRQs for the network card and the USB card are
: different
: : and
: : I
: : tried moving the USB card to a different PCI slot ---no
: : difference.
: :
: : "bgosper" wrote:
: :
: : I installed a 2.0 5 port PCI USB card as an upgrade in

my
: Win 98
: : SE
: : PC. Now,
: : when I try to use a usb device through this card and at

the
: same
: : time open my
: : web browser thru my highspeed card, my pc shuts down and
: reboots
: : to
: : scan disk
: : automatically. I assume there must be a conflict between
: these
: : two
: : devices
: : although there is no conflict shown in the device

manager
: : profile.
: : IF I use
: : the USB card without trying to open my broweser, it

appears
: to
: : work
: : fine as
: : well as if I just open my browser without using the USB

card
: : there
: : is no
: : problem. I know this is the problem because if I take

the
: card
: : out,
: : everything returns to normal and I can use the old on

board
: USB
: : ports no
: : problem. PLEASE HELP!
: :
: :
: :
:
:
:



 




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