anti virus pgm for win98se, 64meg 200mHz system?

Can anyone recommend a good (free) anti virus program suitable for a P-200,
64meg, win98se system? I tried AVG but it caused "Kernel protection fault"
error at reboot. I also tried AntiVir but it caused a system freeze during
the "system" scan when the program loads. I finished a Panda Active online
scan and it took 3 hrs and 30 minutes to scan about 4 gig of files (on 8gig
of hdd space). Panda detected 380 files and disinfected them all. But the
system really needs a good anti virus program that is monitoring any more
infections on an ongoing basis.

Hi Ogg,

See if Avast works out alright on your system:
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html



Regards,

--
Patti MacLeod
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

"Ogg" wrote in message
.. .
Can anyone recommend a good (free) anti virus program suitable for a
P-200,
64meg, win98se system? I tried AVG but it caused "Kernel protection
fault"
error at reboot. I also tried AntiVir but it caused a system freeze
during
the "system" scan when the program loads. I finished a Panda Active
online
scan and it took 3 hrs and 30 minutes to scan about 4 gig of files (on
8gig
of hdd space). Panda detected 380 files and disinfected them all. But
the
system really needs a good anti virus program that is monitoring any more
infections on an ongoing basis.

"kernel error" in avg installs is often a result of one or more windows
files being already bombed by virus when the install is trying to take
place, ditto anti vir.
try running the panda scan, include the spyware option, then while the
system is clean Windows update and avg or antivir install

just threw windows update in there for the hell of it

--
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use

Grateful thanks to the authors and webmasters
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"Ogg" wrote in message
.. .
Can anyone recommend a good (free) anti virus program suitable for a
P-200,
64meg, win98se system? I tried AVG but it caused "Kernel protection
fault"
error at reboot. I also tried AntiVir but it caused a system freeze
during
the "system" scan when the program loads. I finished a Panda Active
online
scan and it took 3 hrs and 30 minutes to scan about 4 gig of files (on
8gig
of hdd space). Panda detected 380 files and disinfected them all. But
the
system really needs a good anti virus program that is monitoring any more
infections on an ongoing basis.

From: "Ogg"

| Can anyone recommend a good (free) anti virus program suitable for a P-200,
| 64meg, win98se system? I tried AVG but it caused "Kernel protection fault"
| error at reboot. I also tried AntiVir but it caused a system freeze during
| the "system" scan when the program loads. I finished a Panda Active online
| scan and it took 3 hrs and 30 minutes to scan about 4 gig of files (on 8gig
| of hdd space). Panda detected 380 files and disinfected them all. But the
| system really needs a good anti virus program that is monitoring any more
| infections on an ongoing basis.
|

If you are going to continue to use a P1 200Mhz computer, which is a dog in Today's
standards, you should increase the RAM to between 256 and 384MB. 64MB is a ridiculously low
amount of RAM especially at Today's prices !

You said "Panda detected 380 files and disinfected them all." -- Do you realize how bad that
is ?

I suggest you do some more scanning !

Dump the contents of the IE Temporary Internet Folder cache (TIF)
Start -- Settings -- Control Panel -- Internet Options -- Delete Files

Dump the contents of the Mozilla FireFox Cache { if you use FireFox }
Tools -- Options -- Privacy -- Cache -- Clear

1) Download the TrendMicro Sysclean Front End

Download the utility SYSCLEAN_FE at the following URL --
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
SYSCLEAN_FE automates the download and execution process of the Trend Sysclean Package.
Direct URL --
http://www.ik-cs.com/programs/virtools/Sysclean_FE.exe


2) Download and install Ad-aware SE
(free personal version v1.05)
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
Update Ad-aware with the latest definitions and then exit the software.

3) Execute; SYSCLEAN_FE.EXE
Choose; Unzip
Choose; Close


Execute; c:\sysclean\SYSCLEAN_FE.BAT
{ or Double-click on 'SYSCLEAN_FE Link' in c:\sysclean }
when you get to the menu exit the utility so you can boot into Safe Mode.

4) Reboot your PC into Safe Mode and shutdown as many applications as possible.

5) Execute; c:\sysclean\sysclean.com
Let SYCLEAN.COM scan your computer.
when done, execute Ad-aware SE and perform a full scan of your PC and delete
all objects found.

6) Restart your PC and perform a "final" Full Scan of your platform
Execute; c:\sysclean\SYSCLEAN_FE.BAT
{ or Double-click on 'SYSCLEAN_FE Link' in c:\sysclean }
This time, choose to execute SYSCLEAN.COM from the menu.
when done, execute Ad-aware SE and perform a final scan of your PC and delete
all objects found.



* * * Please report back your results * * *

Then install one of the below...

AVAST -
http://www.avast.com/i_idt_1016.html - FREE

AntiVir -
http://www.free-av.com/ - FREE

AVG -
http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5 - FREE

CA eTrust -
http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/index.cfm - FREE for one year.
{ Free offer ends 8/1/05 }


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:


If you are going to continue to use a P1 200Mhz computer, which is a
dog in Today's standards, you should increase the RAM to between 256
and 384MB. 64MB is a ridiculously low amount of RAM especially at
Today's prices !



Most P1 chipsets cannot cache more than 64 MB. Which means that the system
will be slower when you put in more memory, unless you're using programs
which use more than 64 MB at once. That would be large photo editing or
something like that.

EDO ram is not cheap today.

From: "Ingeborg"

| "David H. Lipman" wrote in
| :
|
If you are going to continue to use a P1 200Mhz computer, which is a
dog in Today's standards, you should increase the RAM to between 256
and 384MB. 64MB is a ridiculously low amount of RAM especially at
Today's prices !

| Most P1 chipsets cannot cache more than 64 MB. Which means that the system
| will be slower when you put in more memory, unless you're using programs
| which use more than 64 MB at once. That would be large photo editing or
| something like that.
|
| EDO ram is not cheap today.

Not most, a few Intel chip-sets.
And even the EDO RAM is cheaper than it was when that platform first came out.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "Ingeborg"

| "David H. Lipman" wrote in
| :
|
If you are going to continue to use a P1 200Mhz computer, which is a
dog in Today's standards, you should increase the RAM to between 256
and 384MB. 64MB is a ridiculously low amount of RAM especially at
Today's prices !

| Most P1 chipsets cannot cache more than 64 MB. Which means that the
system
| will be slower when you put in more memory, unless you're using programs
| which use more than 64 MB at once. That would be large photo editing or
| something like that.
|
| EDO ram is not cheap today.

Not most, a few Intel chip-sets.
And even the EDO RAM is cheaper than it was when that platform first came
out.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Agreed, the 64MB caching limit was a rarity. There may be MB capacity limit
on each SIMM socket. If it's built-in, soldered RAM, and adding RAM to SIMM
slots, it may get hairy but doable. Crucial is pretty good at offering only
what will work for a particular model motherboard. EDO may not be what's
needed, but may work.

Thank you for the tip about "kernel error" behaviour. I'll give AntiVir
another shot at the install.


"AlmostBob" wrote in message
...
"kernel error" in avg installs is often a result of one or more windows
files being already bombed by virus when the install is trying to take
place, ditto anti vir.
try running the panda scan, include the spyware option, then while the
system is clean Windows update and avg or antivir install

just threw windows update in there for the hell of it

The idea is to replace the P1-200 soon, but perhaps not for another 6
months. I too realize that 64meg is awfully low. Meanwhile, I looked
inside and noticed that the ram is right under the power supply.
That's annoying. The PS would need to be removed inorder to "play" with the
ram. Annoying. I've investigated some more particulars about his mobo
(Aptiva model 2137 E25) and the specs across all the Exx models seem to call
for EDO type. I am not impressed. Time and expense does not warrant
supporting upgrading this particular unit. Getting another machine makes
more sense.

Meanwhile... I'll do the other file-clean suggestions you made. Thanks for
that. I forgot about the temporary dirs and cache. And.. I'll retry an
AnitVir install.

I have to look for a clean version of NOTEPAD.EXE and HH.EXE replacement
(somewhere in the cabs, right?) ..since the first run off Stinger nuked
those.


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...

If you are going to continue to use a P1 200Mhz computer, which is a dog
in Today's
standards, you should increase the RAM to between 256 and 384MB. 64MB is
a ridiculously low
amount of RAM especially at Today's prices !

You said "Panda detected 380 files and disinfected them all." -- Do you
realize how bad that
is ?

I suggest you do some more scanning !

Dump the contents of the IE Temporary Internet Folder cache (TIF)
Start -- Settings -- Control Panel -- Internet Options -- Delete Files

Dump the contents of the Mozilla FireFox Cache { if you use FireFox }
Tools -- Options -- Privacy -- Cache -- Clear

1) Download the TrendMicro Sysclean Front End

Download the utility SYSCLEAN_FE at the following URL --
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
SYSCLEAN_FE automates the download and execution process of the Trend
Sysclean Package.
Direct URL --
http://www.ik-cs.com/programs/virtools/Sysclean_FE.exe


2) Download and install Ad-aware SE
(free personal version v1.05)
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
Update Ad-aware with the latest definitions and then exit the
software.

3) Execute; SYSCLEAN_FE.EXE
Choose; Unzip
Choose; Close


Execute; c:\sysclean\SYSCLEAN_FE.BAT
{ or Double-click on 'SYSCLEAN_FE Link' in c:\sysclean }
when you get to the menu exit the utility so you can boot into
Safe Mode.

4) Reboot your PC into Safe Mode and shutdown as many applications as
possible.

5) Execute; c:\sysclean\sysclean.com
Let SYCLEAN.COM scan your computer.
when done, execute Ad-aware SE and perform a full scan of your PC
and delete
all objects found.

6) Restart your PC and perform a "final" Full Scan of your platform
Execute; c:\sysclean\SYSCLEAN_FE.BAT
{ or Double-click on 'SYSCLEAN_FE Link' in c:\sysclean }
This time, choose to execute SYSCLEAN.COM from the menu.
when done, execute Ad-aware SE and perform a final scan of your PC
and delete
all objects found.



* * * Please report back your results * * *

The P1-200 is actually an Aptiva E25 (mobo 2137). Do you know if this one
has the cache limitation?


"Ingeborg" wrote in message
...

Most P1 chipsets cannot cache more than 64 MB. Which means that the system
will be slower when you put in more memory, unless you're using programs
which use more than 64 MB at once. That would be large photo editing or
something like that.

EDO ram is not cheap today.