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First, let me explain ... I use the BIOS to select between two HDDs/partitions to boot from ... The "Allow LPT Interrupt Sharing" option in the "Settings" tab of "Creative SB16 Emulation" properties is checked for the "good" HDD/partition (on the same hardware) that handles "Shut Down" correctly. So, I suspect that this option is not the cause of the problem in my case. But, I think you may have touched on the tip of the iceberg ... I took a look through the Device Manager tab of the "problematic" HDD/partition (on the same hardware) that "Restart" instead of "Shut Down" and the device list does not look clean (there are exclamation points). Although, things work for the most part. After comparing the device lists of both HDDs/partitions, I strongly suspect that the cause of the problem has to with ACPI BIOS vs. PnP BIOS. The "good" HDD/partition uses PnP BIOS. And, the "problematic" HDD/partition uses ACPI BIOS. Anyone know if it is possible to convert from ACPI BIOS to PnP BIOS? If so, how? Here is the problematic parts of the device list: Floppy disk controllers: - Standard Floppy Disk Controller - "!" Standard Floppy Disk Controller Infrared devices: not sure why this group is there - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device Keyboard: - Standard 101/102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard - "!" Standard 101 / 102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Network adapters: - 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX) - Dial-Up Adapter - "!" Infrared PnP Serial Port (*PNP0510) Ports (COM & LPT): - "!" Communications Port - "!" Communications Port - Communications Port (COM1) - Communications Port (COM2) - "!" ECP Printer Port - "!" Printer Port - Printer Port (LPT1) - Virtual Infrared COM Port - Virtual Infrared LPT Port System devices: - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - ACPI System Button - Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) BIOS - Composite Power Source - Direct memory access controller - "!" Direct memory access controller - IO read data port for ISA Plug and Play enumerator - Motherboard resources - Motherboard resources - Numeric data processor - PCI bus - "!" PCI bus - Processor support - Programmable interrupt controller - SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus - System board - System board extension for ACPI BIOS - System CMOS/real time clock - System speaker - System timer - VIA CPU to AGP controller - VIA standard CPU to PCI Bridge - VIA Tech VT82C686 PCI to ISA bridge - VIA Tech VT82C686 Power Management Controller My system consists of the following: Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05. CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+ RAM: 512MB NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 CD-ROM Burner: LiteOn 52x24x52x DVD Drive: Pioneer DVD-116 Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP Monitor: ViewSonic P815-4 Printer: HP LaserJet 5 "pjp" wrote in message ... You'll see others mention refer's to a web page for troubleshooting. In my case nothing helped UNTIL I read the comment about "Allow LPT Interupt Sharing" as a sub-checkbox under "Legacy Emulation Enabled" found under "Settings" tab in the "Properties" dialog for my PCI128 soundcard in Device Manager's hardware list. It wasn't until I unchecked said box that the problem went away and she now shuts down or restarts properly as expected "Adam" wrote in message . com... My system is running Win98SE. When I try to "Shut Down", it does a "Restart" instead. "Disable fast shutdown" is already selected. Anyone know how to fix this? |
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Correction ... replace the following: After comparing the device lists of both HDDs/partitions, I strongly suspect that the cause of the problem has to with ACPI BIOS vs. PnP BIOS. The "good" HDD/partition uses PnP BIOS. And, the "problematic" HDD/partition uses ACPI BIOS. Anyone know if it is possible to convert from ACPI BIOS to PnP BIOS? If so, how? with the following: After comparing the device lists of both HDDs/partitions, I strongly suspect that the cause of the problem has to do with using Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) instead of Advanced Power Management (APM). The "good" HDD/partition uses APM whereas the "problematic" HDD/partition uses ACPI. Anyone know how to disable ACPI and enable APM? "Adam" wrote in message om... First, let me explain ... I use the BIOS to select between two HDDs/partitions to boot from ... The "Allow LPT Interrupt Sharing" option in the "Settings" tab of "Creative SB16 Emulation" properties is checked for the "good" HDD/partition (on the same hardware) that handles "Shut Down" correctly. So, I suspect that this option is not the cause of the problem in my case. But, I think you may have touched on the tip of the iceberg ... I took a look through the Device Manager tab of the "problematic" HDD/partition (on the same hardware) that "Restart" instead of "Shut Down" and the device list does not look clean (there are exclamation points). Although, things work for the most part. After comparing the device lists of both HDDs/partitions, I strongly suspect that the cause of the problem has to with ACPI BIOS vs. PnP BIOS. The "good" HDD/partition uses PnP BIOS. And, the "problematic" HDD/partition uses ACPI BIOS. Anyone know if it is possible to convert from ACPI BIOS to PnP BIOS? If so, how? Here is the problematic parts of the device list: Floppy disk controllers: - Standard Floppy Disk Controller - "!" Standard Floppy Disk Controller Infrared devices: not sure why this group is there - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device Keyboard: - Standard 101/102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard - "!" Standard 101 / 102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Network adapters: - 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX) - Dial-Up Adapter - "!" Infrared PnP Serial Port (*PNP0510) Ports (COM & LPT): - "!" Communications Port - "!" Communications Port - Communications Port (COM1) - Communications Port (COM2) - "!" ECP Printer Port - "!" Printer Port - Printer Port (LPT1) - Virtual Infrared COM Port - Virtual Infrared LPT Port System devices: - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - ACPI System Button - Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) BIOS - Composite Power Source - Direct memory access controller - "!" Direct memory access controller - IO read data port for ISA Plug and Play enumerator - Motherboard resources - Motherboard resources - Numeric data processor - PCI bus - "!" PCI bus - Processor support - Programmable interrupt controller - SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus - System board - System board extension for ACPI BIOS - System CMOS/real time clock - System speaker - System timer - VIA CPU to AGP controller - VIA standard CPU to PCI Bridge - VIA Tech VT82C686 PCI to ISA bridge - VIA Tech VT82C686 Power Management Controller My system consists of the following: Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05. CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+ RAM: 512MB NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 CD-ROM Burner: LiteOn 52x24x52x DVD Drive: Pioneer DVD-116 Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP Monitor: ViewSonic P815-4 Printer: HP LaserJet 5 "pjp" wrote in message ... You'll see others mention refer's to a web page for troubleshooting. In my case nothing helped UNTIL I read the comment about "Allow LPT Interupt Sharing" as a sub-checkbox under "Legacy Emulation Enabled" found under "Settings" tab in the "Properties" dialog for my PCI128 soundcard in Device Manager's hardware list. It wasn't until I unchecked said box that the problem went away and she now shuts down or restarts properly as expected "Adam" wrote in message . com... My system is running Win98SE. When I try to "Shut Down", it does a "Restart" instead. "Disable fast shutdown" is already selected. Anyone know how to fix this? |
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"Shut Down" now works as expected ... solution in my case ... Replace "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) BIOS" with "Plug and Play BIOS (fail safe)". Here's a helpful link: http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/acpi.html Still not sure why I have the following exclamations in the device list: Keyboard: - Standard 101/102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard - "!" Standard 101 / 102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard System devices: - Direct memory access controller - "!" Direct memory access controller - PCI bus - "!" PCI bus My system consists of the following: Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05. CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+ RAM: 512MB NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 CD-ROM Burner: LiteOn 52x24x52x DVD Drive: Pioneer DVD-116 Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP Monitor: ViewSonic P815-4 Printer: HP LaserJet 5 "Adam" wrote in message om... First, let me explain ... I use the BIOS to select between two HDDs/partitions to boot from ... The "Allow LPT Interrupt Sharing" option in the "Settings" tab of "Creative SB16 Emulation" properties is checked for the "good" HDD/partition (on the same hardware) that handles "Shut Down" correctly. So, I suspect that this option is not the cause of the problem in my case. But, I think you may have touched on the tip of the iceberg ... I took a look through the Device Manager tab of the "problematic" HDD/partition (on the same hardware) that "Restart" instead of "Shut Down" and the device list does not look clean (there are exclamation points). Although, things work for the most part. After comparing the device lists of both HDDs/partitions, I strongly suspect that the cause of the problem has to with ACPI BIOS vs. PnP BIOS. The "good" HDD/partition uses PnP BIOS. And, the "problematic" HDD/partition uses ACPI BIOS. Anyone know if it is possible to convert from ACPI BIOS to PnP BIOS? If so, how? Here is the problematic parts of the device list: Floppy disk controllers: - Standard Floppy Disk Controller - "!" Standard Floppy Disk Controller Infrared devices: not sure why this group is there - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device Keyboard: - Standard 101/102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard - "!" Standard 101 / 102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Network adapters: - 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX) - Dial-Up Adapter - "!" Infrared PnP Serial Port (*PNP0510) Ports (COM & LPT): - "!" Communications Port - "!" Communications Port - Communications Port (COM1) - Communications Port (COM2) - "!" ECP Printer Port - "!" Printer Port - Printer Port (LPT1) - Virtual Infrared COM Port - Virtual Infrared LPT Port System devices: - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - ACPI System Button - Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) BIOS - Composite Power Source - Direct memory access controller - "!" Direct memory access controller - IO read data port for ISA Plug and Play enumerator - Motherboard resources - Motherboard resources - Numeric data processor - PCI bus - "!" PCI bus - Processor support - Programmable interrupt controller - SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus - System board - System board extension for ACPI BIOS - System CMOS/real time clock - System speaker - System timer - VIA CPU to AGP controller - VIA standard CPU to PCI Bridge - VIA Tech VT82C686 PCI to ISA bridge - VIA Tech VT82C686 Power Management Controller My system consists of the following: Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05. CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+ RAM: 512MB NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 CD-ROM Burner: LiteOn 52x24x52x DVD Drive: Pioneer DVD-116 Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP Monitor: ViewSonic P815-4 Printer: HP LaserJet 5 "pjp" wrote in message ... You'll see others mention refer's to a web page for troubleshooting. In my case nothing helped UNTIL I read the comment about "Allow LPT Interupt Sharing" as a sub-checkbox under "Legacy Emulation Enabled" found under "Settings" tab in the "Properties" dialog for my PCI128 soundcard in Device Manager's hardware list. It wasn't until I unchecked said box that the problem went away and she now shuts down or restarts properly as expected "Adam" wrote in message . com... My system is running Win98SE. When I try to "Shut Down", it does a "Restart" instead. "Disable fast shutdown" is already selected. Anyone know how to fix this? |
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 23:12:01 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
"Adam" wrote : "Shut Down" now works as expected ... solution in my case ... Replace "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) BIOS" with "Plug and Play BIOS (fail safe)". Here's a helpful link: http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/acpi.html Still not sure why I have the following exclamations in the device list: Keyboard: - Standard 101/102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard - "!" Standard 101 / 102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Boot to Safemode/Device Manager and remove all entries for the Keyboard and re-boot as per, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/drivers.html System devices: - Direct memory access controller - "!" Direct memory access controller - PCI bus - "!" PCI bus Look for updated mother board drivers pack or your mother board's chip set drivers pack and install.System Diagnostic,"Everest Home Edition" free will tell you all you need to know about the hardware etc on your system, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/diag.html also on that page get Nero Info tool to check that all your drives are using DMA. HTH My system consists of the following: Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05. CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+ RAM: 512MB NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 CD-ROM Burner: LiteOn 52x24x52x DVD Drive: Pioneer DVD-116 Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP Monitor: ViewSonic P815-4 Printer: HP LaserJet 5 "Adam" wrote in message om... First, let me explain ... I use the BIOS to select between two HDDs/partitions to boot from ... The "Allow LPT Interrupt Sharing" option in the "Settings" tab of "Creative SB16 Emulation" properties is checked for the "good" HDD/partition (on the same hardware) that handles "Shut Down" correctly. So, I suspect that this option is not the cause of the problem in my case. But, I think you may have touched on the tip of the iceberg ... I took a look through the Device Manager tab of the "problematic" HDD/partition (on the same hardware) that "Restart" instead of "Shut Down" and the device list does not look clean (there are exclamation points). Although, things work for the most part. After comparing the device lists of both HDDs/partitions, I strongly suspect that the cause of the problem has to with ACPI BIOS vs. PnP BIOS. The "good" HDD/partition uses PnP BIOS. And, the "problematic" HDD/partition uses ACPI BIOS. Anyone know if it is possible to convert from ACPI BIOS to PnP BIOS? If so, how? Here is the problematic parts of the device list: Floppy disk controllers: - Standard Floppy Disk Controller - "!" Standard Floppy Disk Controller Infrared devices: not sure why this group is there - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device Keyboard: - Standard 101/102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard - "!" Standard 101 / 102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Network adapters: - 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX) - Dial-Up Adapter - "!" Infrared PnP Serial Port (*PNP0510) Ports (COM & LPT): - "!" Communications Port - "!" Communications Port - Communications Port (COM1) - Communications Port (COM2) - "!" ECP Printer Port - "!" Printer Port - Printer Port (LPT1) - Virtual Infrared COM Port - Virtual Infrared LPT Port System devices: - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - ACPI System Button - Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) BIOS - Composite Power Source - Direct memory access controller - "!" Direct memory access controller - IO read data port for ISA Plug and Play enumerator - Motherboard resources - Motherboard resources - Numeric data processor - PCI bus - "!" PCI bus - Processor support - Programmable interrupt controller - SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus - System board - System board extension for ACPI BIOS - System CMOS/real time clock - System speaker - System timer - VIA CPU to AGP controller - VIA standard CPU to PCI Bridge - VIA Tech VT82C686 PCI to ISA bridge - VIA Tech VT82C686 Power Management Controller My system consists of the following: Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05. CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+ RAM: 512MB NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 CD-ROM Burner: LiteOn 52x24x52x DVD Drive: Pioneer DVD-116 Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP Monitor: ViewSonic P815-4 Printer: HP LaserJet 5 "pjp" wrote in message ... You'll see others mention refer's to a web page for troubleshooting. In my case nothing helped UNTIL I read the comment about "Allow LPT Interupt Sharing" as a sub-checkbox under "Legacy Emulation Enabled" found under "Settings" tab in the "Properties" dialog for my PCI128 soundcard in Device Manager's hardware list. It wasn't until I unchecked said box that the problem went away and she now shuts down or restarts properly as expected "Adam" wrote in message . com... My system is running Win98SE. When I try to "Shut Down", it does a "Restart" instead. "Disable fast shutdown" is already selected. Anyone know how to fix this? -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
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Installing Via's 4-in-1 drivers did not fix the exclamations. Nero InfoTool shows that all drives have DMA=on. In Safe mode, I was able to fix all exclamations except "PCI bus". If I try to remove "PCI bus" in Safe mode, I will get the following two messages: 1) "NAV Auto-Protect: The configuration files were not found. Using default configuration." 2) "NAV Auto-Protect: Unable to initialize the exclusion database." After the above messages, I will not be able to boot using the partition. Uninstalling NAV from the partition first gives the same results. I guess I'll have to live with the one remaining exclamation for now. Also, my system automatically turns off the computer after displaying the message: "It's now safe to turn off your computer." How can I get it to require the user to manually turn off the computer? "Shepİ" wrote in message ... On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 23:12:01 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when "Adam" wrote : "Shut Down" now works as expected ... solution in my case ... Replace "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) BIOS" with "Plug and Play BIOS (fail safe)". Here's a helpful link: http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/acpi.html Still not sure why I have the following exclamations in the device list: Keyboard: - Standard 101/102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard - "!" Standard 101 / 102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Boot to Safemode/Device Manager and remove all entries for the Keyboard and re-boot as per, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/drivers.html System devices: - Direct memory access controller - "!" Direct memory access controller - PCI bus - "!" PCI bus Look for updated mother board drivers pack or your mother board's chip set drivers pack and install.System Diagnostic,"Everest Home Edition" free will tell you all you need to know about the hardware etc on your system, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/diag.html also on that page get Nero Info tool to check that all your drives are using DMA. HTH My system consists of the following: Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05. CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+ RAM: 512MB NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 CD-ROM Burner: LiteOn 52x24x52x DVD Drive: Pioneer DVD-116 Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP Monitor: ViewSonic P815-4 Printer: HP LaserJet 5 "Adam" wrote in message om... First, let me explain ... I use the BIOS to select between two HDDs/partitions to boot from ... The "Allow LPT Interrupt Sharing" option in the "Settings" tab of "Creative SB16 Emulation" properties is checked for the "good" HDD/partition (on the same hardware) that handles "Shut Down" correctly. So, I suspect that this option is not the cause of the problem in my case. But, I think you may have touched on the tip of the iceberg ... I took a look through the Device Manager tab of the "problematic" HDD/partition (on the same hardware) that "Restart" instead of "Shut Down" and the device list does not look clean (there are exclamation points). Although, things work for the most part. After comparing the device lists of both HDDs/partitions, I strongly suspect that the cause of the problem has to with ACPI BIOS vs. PnP BIOS. The "good" HDD/partition uses PnP BIOS. And, the "problematic" HDD/partition uses ACPI BIOS. Anyone know if it is possible to convert from ACPI BIOS to PnP BIOS? If so, how? Here is the problematic parts of the device list: Floppy disk controllers: - Standard Floppy Disk Controller - "!" Standard Floppy Disk Controller Infrared devices: not sure why this group is there - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device - Infrared Communication Device Keyboard: - Standard 101/102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard - "!" Standard 101 / 102 - Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Network adapters: - 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX) - Dial-Up Adapter - "!" Infrared PnP Serial Port (*PNP0510) Ports (COM & LPT): - "!" Communications Port - "!" Communications Port - Communications Port (COM1) - Communications Port (COM2) - "!" ECP Printer Port - "!" Printer Port - Printer Port (LPT1) - Virtual Infrared COM Port - Virtual Infrared LPT Port System devices: - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - "!" ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering - ACPI System Button - Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) BIOS - Composite Power Source - Direct memory access controller - "!" Direct memory access controller - IO read data port for ISA Plug and Play enumerator - Motherboard resources - Motherboard resources - Numeric data processor - PCI bus - "!" PCI bus - Processor support - Programmable interrupt controller - SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus - System board - System board extension for ACPI BIOS - System CMOS/real time clock - System speaker - System timer - VIA CPU to AGP controller - VIA standard CPU to PCI Bridge - VIA Tech VT82C686 PCI to ISA bridge - VIA Tech VT82C686 Power Management Controller My system consists of the following: Motherboard: Asus A7V133 rev 1.05. CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1600+ RAM: 512MB NIC: 3Com 3C905C-TXM Audio: Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 CD-ROM Burner: LiteOn 52x24x52x DVD Drive: Pioneer DVD-116 Display Adapter: Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR 32MB AGP Monitor: ViewSonic P815-4 Printer: HP LaserJet 5 "pjp" wrote in message ... You'll see others mention refer's to a web page for troubleshooting. In my case nothing helped UNTIL I read the comment about "Allow LPT Interupt Sharing" as a sub-checkbox under "Legacy Emulation Enabled" found under "Settings" tab in the "Properties" dialog for my PCI128 soundcard in Device Manager's hardware list. It wasn't until I unchecked said box that the problem went away and she now shuts down or restarts properly as expected "Adam" wrote in message . com... My system is running Win98SE. When I try to "Shut Down", it does a "Restart" instead. "Disable fast shutdown" is already selected. Anyone know how to fix this? -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:02:23 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when
"Adam" wrote : Installing Via's 4-in-1 drivers did not fix the exclamations. Nero InfoTool shows that all drives have DMA=on. In Safe mode, I was able to fix all exclamations except "PCI bus". If I try to remove "PCI bus" in Safe mode, I will get the following two messages: 1) "NAV Auto-Protect: The configuration files were not found. Using default configuration." 2) "NAV Auto-Protect: Unable to initialize the exclusion database." After the above messages, I will not be able to boot using the partition. Uninstalling NAV from the partition first gives the same results. I guess I'll have to live with the one remaining exclamation for now. Remove all traces of Norton's software. Also, my system automatically turns off the computer after displaying the message: "It's now safe to turn off your computer." How can I get it to require the user to manually turn off the computer? You would be back to square one as you would have to re-install ACPI :/ -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
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Remove all traces of Norton's software. Good suggestion ... I'll try removing the directories/files later. How can I get it to require the user to manually turn off the computer? You would be back to square one as you would have to re-install ACPI :/ I'm not sure about this since the "good" HDD/partition waits for the user to turn off the computer and it does not use ACPI BIOS. "Shepİ" wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:02:23 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when "Adam" wrote : Installing Via's 4-in-1 drivers did not fix the exclamations. Nero InfoTool shows that all drives have DMA=on. In Safe mode, I was able to fix all exclamations except "PCI bus". If I try to remove "PCI bus" in Safe mode, I will get the following two messages: 1) "NAV Auto-Protect: The configuration files were not found. Using default configuration." 2) "NAV Auto-Protect: Unable to initialize the exclusion database." After the above messages, I will not be able to boot using the partition. Uninstalling NAV from the partition first gives the same results. I guess I'll have to live with the one remaining exclamation for now. Remove all traces of Norton's software. Also, my system automatically turns off the computer after displaying the message: "It's now safe to turn off your computer." How can I get it to require the user to manually turn off the computer? You would be back to square one as you would have to re-install ACPI :/ -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
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No luck ... I still get the following message (that I forgot to mention before): "Windows protection error. You need to restart your computer." Only, this time, I no longer get the two "NAV Auto-Protect" messages. And, the HDD/partition is no longer bootable. Oh well, I'm off to restore the partition again ... "Adam" wrote in message m... Remove all traces of Norton's software. Good suggestion ... I'll try removing the directories/files later. How can I get it to require the user to manually turn off the computer? You would be back to square one as you would have to re-install ACPI :/ I'm not sure about this since the "good" HDD/partition waits for the user to turn off the computer and it does not use ACPI BIOS. "Shepİ" wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:02:23 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when "Adam" wrote : Installing Via's 4-in-1 drivers did not fix the exclamations. Nero InfoTool shows that all drives have DMA=on. In Safe mode, I was able to fix all exclamations except "PCI bus". If I try to remove "PCI bus" in Safe mode, I will get the following two messages: 1) "NAV Auto-Protect: The configuration files were not found. Using default configuration." 2) "NAV Auto-Protect: Unable to initialize the exclusion database." After the above messages, I will not be able to boot using the partition. Uninstalling NAV from the partition first gives the same results. I guess I'll have to live with the one remaining exclamation for now. Remove all traces of Norton's software. Also, my system automatically turns off the computer after displaying the message: "It's now safe to turn off your computer." How can I get it to require the user to manually turn off the computer? You would be back to square one as you would have to re-install ACPI :/ -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
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I'm not sure why this post didn't come through until today ... Anyhow, the "Restart" instead of "Shut Down" problem was fixed by replacing ACPI BIOS with PnP BIOS (fail safe). For details, see my earlier post (dated 11/9/2004 3:12pm). The following issues remain: - duplicate "PCI bus" with an exclamation mark (but system works fine) - system does not wait for the user to turn off the computer on "Shut Down" "PCR" wrote in message ... Good, you've a full partition backup! Now, I don't have to worry over blowing you up, though I'm long past worry over such things by now anyhow. Well, recently someone cured a shutdown problem by removing a BHO. Better check for one of those. Here are some articles from my collection... May as well test RAM... http://www.simmtester.com/PAGE/products/doc/docinfo.asp RAM tester http://www.memtest86.com/ RAM tester Here are possible software causes. It can also be a virus. Does it happen in Safe Mode? (Hold CTRL as you boot to get the Startup Menu, or turn it on at "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button".) http://search.support.microsoft.com/...SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB Search "Restarts" & Search "Reboot" & Search "Reboots"; Windows 98; Title Only; produces... http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=148919 (148919) - When you start your computer, Windows may restart continuously http://support.microsoft.com/default...26&Product=w98 Packard Bell Computer Restarts Continuously (229126) - After you enable Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) support on a Packard Bell Multimedia 4350 computer, your computer may restart continuously. http://support.microsoft.com/default...43&Product=w98 Computer May Reboot Continuously with More Than 1.5 GB of RAM (304943) - If your computer has more than 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of memory (RAM), the computer may reboot continuously when you try to start Windows Millennium Edition (Me) or Windows 98. Or, when you try to install Windows Me or Windows 98 with more than 1.5 GB of... http://support.microsoft.com/default...18&Product=w98 Computer Caught in Reboot Loop After Using DriveSpace (130018) - When you are using DriveSpace to compress a drive, your computer may become stuck in a reboot (or restart) loop. If you press the F8 key when your computer restarts and then choose Command Prompt Only, your computer enters the reboot loop again. If... http://support.microsoft.com/default...24&Product=w98 FIX: Windows 98: Reenumerating PCI Device Can Cause Reboot (222824) - On a Windows 98 ACPI system, reenumerating a Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) device may cause the system to crash. For example, if a user employs Device Manager to remove a PCI device and then refreshes, the system can unexpectedly reboot.... http://support.microsoft.com/default...33&Product=w98 Toshiba 4500 Reboots After Resuming (132333) - When you are using a Toshiba 4500 laptop computer, if you shut down Windows in Suspend mode or close the lid, Windows appears to shut down successfully. However, when you resume Windows, the computer reboots after a short time. http://support.microsoft.com/default...76&Product=w98 Computer Hangs or Reboots at Shutdown with NetWare Client (132776) - With Novell NetWare Client version 4.10 (VLM.EXE) installed, your computer stops responding (hangs) or restarts when you shut down your computer. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Adam" wrote in message om... | | Yes, the first installation of | the "Windows 98 Second Edition Shutdown Supplement" | didn't fix the "Restart instead of "Shut Down" problem. | | I read somewhere that installing several times might | get it to work. I'm not sure why though. But, | I'll give it a try and if that doesn't fix the problem, | I'll just restore the partition. | | | | "PCR" wrote in message ... | | Also, I haven't tried the shutdown patch yet since | | some posts stated that it can cause problems. | | Is this true? | | You mean Q239877, the Shutdown Supplement...?... | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239887/EN-US/ | Windows 98 Second Edition Shutdown Supplement | | It appears it is installed in this Win98SE, shows up in "MSInfo32, | Software Environment, Software Updates". Also, all it's files versions | are my file versions, (except for tshoot98.chm-- I was gypped on that | one). I do believe Compaq installed Q239877 into this 7470. (I'd have | had to do it twice, the second time, after my hard drive crash of 2001. | Surely, I'd remember.) | | I can't actually say I've never had a shutdown/restart problem. But it | is rare... well, it certainly isn't frequent, anyhow... well, it | happens... | (a) Sometimes, if I haven't shut big apps first, like OE. | (b) A couple or so "reboot's to complete" failed. | (c) Sundry other times. | | While there is no uninstall for it in Add/Remove Programs, I have | discovered... C:\WINDOWS\INF\QFE\WIN98.SE\239887UN.INF. And, here it | is... | | ......Start of it........... | ; 239887UN.INF | ; This is the Setup information file to install the Windows 98 Second | Edition Q239887 Update. | | [version] | signature = "$CHICAGO$" | AdvancedINF = 2.5, %AdvPackWarn% | LayoutFile = Layout.inf, Layout1.inf, Layout2.inf | | [DefaultInstall] | CopyFiles=W98Upd.Undo.Sys,W98Upd.Undo.Hlp | DelFiles=W98Upd.del.inf | DelReg=W98Upd.delreg | | [DestinationDirs] | W98Upd.Undo.Sys = 11 | W98Upd.Undo.Hlp = 18 | W98Upd.del.INF = 17,QFE\%SPKey% | | [W98Upd.Undo.Sys] | msconfig.exe,,,4 | pci.vxd,,,4 | apmbatt.sys,,,4 | vpowerd.vxd,,,4 | | [W98Upd.Undo.Hlp] | tshoot98.chm,,,4 | | [W98Upd.del.INF] | 239887UN.INF | | [W98Upd.delreg] | HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\%GUID%" | | ;qfecheck | HKLM,%UpdateKey%\%SPKey%\%LocaleID%%UpdID%\,,,"%Up dName%" | | [Strings] | ;Non-localizable | GUID = "{b7d5e460-8c8a-11d3-8e4a-0050da1d4065}" | VERSION = "4.10.0.2222" | UpdID = "239887" | UpdateKey = | "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\U pdates" | SPKey = "Win98.SE" | | ;Localizable strings | LANG = "EN" | LocaleID = "UPD" | UpdName = "Windows 98 Second Edition Q239887 Update" | AdvPackWarn = "You need a newer version of advpack.dll." | .......End of 239887UN.INF....... | | I can only SUPPOSE that would uninstall it, as there is nothing in it's | docs about it. And I don't understand .inf-talk, really. Actually, it | would be best to do a full system backup before fooling with the | Supplement at all. | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | "Adam" wrote in message | m... | | | | I tried some of the steps in the following link: | | http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm | | Then gave up since it seemed to focus more on | | system freeze problems. | | | | But, I didn't realize that there was a Win98SE specific one: | | http://www.aumha.org/a/shtdwnse.php | | I'll have to try it out later. | | | | Also, I haven't tried the shutdown patch yet since | | some posts stated that it can cause problems. | | Is this true? | | | | | | | | "PCR" wrote in message | ... | | "START, Shut Down"... can it be the "bolt" is in "Restart"? Then, | that | | is what will happen. | | | | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=238096 | | Shutdown Problems | | This article has a link in it to pages full of articles on shutdown | | problems. | | | | http://www.aumha.org/a/shtdwnse.php Shutdown problems, SE specific. | | http://www.aumha.org/a/shutdown.htm Shutdown problems. | | | | Definitely, try... "START button, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". | | Check "Disable fast shutdown", if there. The item won't be there, if | you | | have downloaded a certain patch from Windows Update. | | | | | | -- | | Thanks or Good Luck, | | There may be humor in this post, and, | | Naturally, you will not sue, | | should things get worse after this, | | PCR | | | | "Adam" wrote in message | | . com... | | | | | | My system is running Win98SE. | | | | | | When I try to "Shut Down", it does a "Restart" instead. | | | | | | "Disable fast shutdown" is already selected. | | | | | | Anyone know how to fix this? | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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I would like to install the following: System Properties = Device Manager = System devices = "Advanced Power Management support" Anyone know how? "Adam" wrote in message m... Remove all traces of Norton's software. Good suggestion ... I'll try removing the directories/files later. How can I get it to require the user to manually turn off the computer? You would be back to square one as you would have to re-install ACPI :/ I'm not sure about this since the "good" HDD/partition waits for the user to turn off the computer and it does not use ACPI BIOS. "Shepİ" wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:02:23 GMT It was a dark and stormy night when "Adam" wrote : Installing Via's 4-in-1 drivers did not fix the exclamations. Nero InfoTool shows that all drives have DMA=on. In Safe mode, I was able to fix all exclamations except "PCI bus". If I try to remove "PCI bus" in Safe mode, I will get the following two messages: 1) "NAV Auto-Protect: The configuration files were not found. Using default configuration." 2) "NAV Auto-Protect: Unable to initialize the exclusion database." After the above messages, I will not be able to boot using the partition. Uninstalling NAV from the partition first gives the same results. I guess I'll have to live with the one remaining exclamation for now. Remove all traces of Norton's software. Also, my system automatically turns off the computer after displaying the message: "It's now safe to turn off your computer." How can I get it to require the user to manually turn off the computer? You would be back to square one as you would have to re-install ACPI :/ -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
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