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  #11  
Old October 1st 08, 03:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
GoodGuy98
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Default Setting up multiple operating systems on one computer.

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:29:01 -0700, mdf
wrote:

Dear Jeggs,

Your info was only slightly helpful as you will note from my situation.

Background:
My old computer power pack died and I am having trouble finding another one,
so I took the hard drive out of that computer and made it a slave in our
other one. The newer computer is running on XP while the old hard drive is
completely Windows98. What I want to do in order to utilize my old programs
and thereby open the related files is creat a duo operating system where I
can have 2 computers in one.

I understand that in order to do this I need to reload windows 98 first and
then the XP program. But what I need to know are the steps I need to take in
order to remove XP and reload in the right order and not have boot problems.

If this is understandable, please let me know if you can help with my lack
of knowledge.

Thanks,

mdf


"Jeggs" wrote:

To set up more than one os on the same computer, you need a partition
manager like fdisk and a boot manager like Bootmagic.

1. First make partitions for each os you will install.
2. Now assign names and icons to the partitions in the boot manager.
3. Finally start each partition and install the os's on them.


I hope this has come in handy.


Thanks Jeggy

Take a look at a shareware program called BootIt NG.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/boo...generation.htm

If you have enough disk space on the primary drive, you can copy
the older ones partition to the new systems drive, setup another
operating system boot entry and just select the one you want from a
simple menu. It also allows you to swap drives at boot time if I
remember correctly. I have Windows XP, Windows 98 and a couple Linux
operating systems on this PC. If you write their tech support staff,
they are usually very helpful and will show you how to do what you
want. Since it's shareware, you can try most of the features before
deciding if you want it.
  #12  
Old October 4th 08, 03:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
mdf
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Posts: 8
Default Setting up multiple operating systems on one computer.

Dear John John,

Thanks again for your reply. Things have been busy around here without
outside work so I haven't had a chance to try your ideas. I hope to give it a
go in the next few days. I will get back to you once I get that done.

TTFN,

mdf


"John John (MVP)" wrote:

I will post more information later.

In the meantime:

As long as both drives are properly recognized and as long as both are
accessible it \may\ not make any difference if the Windows 98 drive is
in the slaved position. Windows XP doesn't care too much as to where it
is installed but you might find that Windows 98 doesn't like being
installed on a slaved drive too much! That is why I recommended that
the Windows 98 drive be placed in the Master position on the primary
controller, it will or may make it a lot easier to install Windows 98.

To make this dual boot work you will have to use the Windows 98 drive to
boot the computer. Go in the BIOS and change the Boot Sequence options
so that the Windows 98 drive (as you have it now, the slaved drive) is
set to boot before the Windows XP drive. Now see if you can
successfully install and boot the computer to Windows 98 on the slaved
drive. You don't need to fuss too much with this installation at this
point, don't waste time tweaking and fixing the installation to your
likings, before you can accomplish anything else you first need to
install Windows 98 to the drive and you need to be able to boot it. If
you can do this on the slaved drive, all the better. If you cannot then
you will simply have to switch the drives, making the Windows 98 drive
the Master and the Windows XP drive the slave.

Let me know how you make out, it shouldn't take too much time to try
installing Windows 98 on the slaved drive. Be careful when you do your
installation, make sure that you do not try to install on or try to
fdisk/format your Windows XP drive! After you successfully install and
boot Windows 98 we can do the dual booting part.

John

mdf wrote:

Dear John John,

Thanks for the info. We have XP Home edition, Version 2002, Service Pack 2
and the cd comes in a nice orange folder. The 2 drives are connected through
the same cable with the slave (windows 98) drive with the first cable end and
the master (xp) drive at the end connection. I didn't think it mattered how
they connected on the cable. If this does get a little too dicey I may have
to (shudder) upgrade my older stable programs and use the slave as a data
disc.

Thanks again for your help. I look forward to your response.

TTFN,

mdf


"John John (MVP)" wrote:


This is fairly easy to do and you don't need to reinstall Windows XP to
do this. It will be easier to accomplish what you want if you set the
Windows 98 drive as the Primary Master drive on the primary controller
and put the Windows XP drive on the secondary controller or slave it to
the Master on the primary controller. To avoid errors you can
temporarilly remove or disconnect the Windows XP drive, that way if you
run into problems you can always put the Windows XP drive in it's
original location and boot your computer as you do now. If you move and
slave drives pay attention to the proper location of the drive on the
cable as well as the proper location of the jumpers, more often than not
people run into problems because these two things are not rignt.

Before I give you the remainder of the instructions I need to know the
type of Windows XP cd that you have, is it a full retail/upgrade version
or is it an OEM version?

John


mdf wrote:


Dear Jeggs,

Your info was only slightly helpful as you will note from my situation.

Background:
My old computer power pack died and I am having trouble finding another one,
so I took the hard drive out of that computer and made it a slave in our
other one. The newer computer is running on XP while the old hard drive is
completely Windows98. What I want to do in order to utilize my old programs
and thereby open the related files is creat a duo operating system where I
can have 2 computers in one.

I understand that in order to do this I need to reload windows 98 first and
then the XP program. But what I need to know are the steps I need to take in
order to remove XP and reload in the right order and not have boot problems.

If this is understandable, please let me know if you can help with my lack
of knowledge.

Thanks,

mdf


"Jeggs" wrote:



To set up more than one os on the same computer, you need a partition
manager like fdisk and a boot manager like Bootmagic.

1. First make partitions for each os you will install.
2. Now assign names and icons to the partitions in the boot manager.
3. Finally start each partition and install the os's on them.


I hope this has come in handy.


Thanks Jeggy




  #13  
Old October 4th 08, 03:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
mdf
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Posts: 8
Default Setting up multiple operating systems on one computer.

Dear John John,

Thanks again for your reply. Things have been busy around here without
outside work so I haven't had a chance to try your ideas. I hope to give it a
go in the next few days. I will get back to you once I get that done.

TTFN,

mdf


"John John (MVP)" wrote:

I will post more information later.

In the meantime:

As long as both drives are properly recognized and as long as both are
accessible it \may\ not make any difference if the Windows 98 drive is
in the slaved position. Windows XP doesn't care too much as to where it
is installed but you might find that Windows 98 doesn't like being
installed on a slaved drive too much! That is why I recommended that
the Windows 98 drive be placed in the Master position on the primary
controller, it will or may make it a lot easier to install Windows 98.

To make this dual boot work you will have to use the Windows 98 drive to
boot the computer. Go in the BIOS and change the Boot Sequence options
so that the Windows 98 drive (as you have it now, the slaved drive) is
set to boot before the Windows XP drive. Now see if you can
successfully install and boot the computer to Windows 98 on the slaved
drive. You don't need to fuss too much with this installation at this
point, don't waste time tweaking and fixing the installation to your
likings, before you can accomplish anything else you first need to
install Windows 98 to the drive and you need to be able to boot it. If
you can do this on the slaved drive, all the better. If you cannot then
you will simply have to switch the drives, making the Windows 98 drive
the Master and the Windows XP drive the slave.

Let me know how you make out, it shouldn't take too much time to try
installing Windows 98 on the slaved drive. Be careful when you do your
installation, make sure that you do not try to install on or try to
fdisk/format your Windows XP drive! After you successfully install and
boot Windows 98 we can do the dual booting part.

John

mdf wrote:

Dear John John,

Thanks for the info. We have XP Home edition, Version 2002, Service Pack 2
and the cd comes in a nice orange folder. The 2 drives are connected through
the same cable with the slave (windows 98) drive with the first cable end and
the master (xp) drive at the end connection. I didn't think it mattered how
they connected on the cable. If this does get a little too dicey I may have
to (shudder) upgrade my older stable programs and use the slave as a data
disc.

Thanks again for your help. I look forward to your response.

TTFN,

mdf


"John John (MVP)" wrote:


This is fairly easy to do and you don't need to reinstall Windows XP to
do this. It will be easier to accomplish what you want if you set the
Windows 98 drive as the Primary Master drive on the primary controller
and put the Windows XP drive on the secondary controller or slave it to
the Master on the primary controller. To avoid errors you can
temporarilly remove or disconnect the Windows XP drive, that way if you
run into problems you can always put the Windows XP drive in it's
original location and boot your computer as you do now. If you move and
slave drives pay attention to the proper location of the drive on the
cable as well as the proper location of the jumpers, more often than not
people run into problems because these two things are not rignt.

Before I give you the remainder of the instructions I need to know the
type of Windows XP cd that you have, is it a full retail/upgrade version
or is it an OEM version?

John


mdf wrote:


Dear Jeggs,

Your info was only slightly helpful as you will note from my situation.

Background:
My old computer power pack died and I am having trouble finding another one,
so I took the hard drive out of that computer and made it a slave in our
other one. The newer computer is running on XP while the old hard drive is
completely Windows98. What I want to do in order to utilize my old programs
and thereby open the related files is creat a duo operating system where I
can have 2 computers in one.

I understand that in order to do this I need to reload windows 98 first and
then the XP program. But what I need to know are the steps I need to take in
order to remove XP and reload in the right order and not have boot problems.

If this is understandable, please let me know if you can help with my lack
of knowledge.

Thanks,

mdf


"Jeggs" wrote:



To set up more than one os on the same computer, you need a partition
manager like fdisk and a boot manager like Bootmagic.

1. First make partitions for each os you will install.
2. Now assign names and icons to the partitions in the boot manager.
3. Finally start each partition and install the os's on them.


I hope this has come in handy.


Thanks Jeggy




  #14  
Old October 4th 08, 03:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
mdf
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Posts: 8
Default Setting up multiple operating systems on one computer.

Dear GoodGuy98,

Thanks for the info. I have been busy with fall work so I haven't had a
chance to work on this. I will drop you a note how this works out when it
rains again (that's the only time I have the time to muck with this sort of
stuff).

TTFN,

mdf


"GoodGuy98" wrote:

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:29:01 -0700, mdf
wrote:

Dear Jeggs,

Your info was only slightly helpful as you will note from my situation.

Background:
My old computer power pack died and I am having trouble finding another one,
so I took the hard drive out of that computer and made it a slave in our
other one. The newer computer is running on XP while the old hard drive is
completely Windows98. What I want to do in order to utilize my old programs
and thereby open the related files is creat a duo operating system where I
can have 2 computers in one.

I understand that in order to do this I need to reload windows 98 first and
then the XP program. But what I need to know are the steps I need to take in
order to remove XP and reload in the right order and not have boot problems.

If this is understandable, please let me know if you can help with my lack
of knowledge.

Thanks,

mdf


"Jeggs" wrote:

To set up more than one os on the same computer, you need a partition
manager like fdisk and a boot manager like Bootmagic.

1. First make partitions for each os you will install.
2. Now assign names and icons to the partitions in the boot manager.
3. Finally start each partition and install the os's on them.


I hope this has come in handy.


Thanks Jeggy

Take a look at a shareware program called BootIt NG.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/boo...generation.htm

If you have enough disk space on the primary drive, you can copy
the older ones partition to the new systems drive, setup another
operating system boot entry and just select the one you want from a
simple menu. It also allows you to swap drives at boot time if I
remember correctly. I have Windows XP, Windows 98 and a couple Linux
operating systems on this PC. If you write their tech support staff,
they are usually very helpful and will show you how to do what you
want. Since it's shareware, you can try most of the features before
deciding if you want it.

  #15  
Old October 4th 08, 03:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
mdf
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 8
Default Setting up multiple operating systems on one computer.

Dear GoodGuy98,

Thanks for the info. I have been busy with fall work so I haven't had a
chance to work on this. I will drop you a note how this works out when it
rains again (that's the only time I have the time to muck with this sort of
stuff).

TTFN,

mdf


"GoodGuy98" wrote:

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:29:01 -0700, mdf
wrote:

Dear Jeggs,

Your info was only slightly helpful as you will note from my situation.

Background:
My old computer power pack died and I am having trouble finding another one,
so I took the hard drive out of that computer and made it a slave in our
other one. The newer computer is running on XP while the old hard drive is
completely Windows98. What I want to do in order to utilize my old programs
and thereby open the related files is creat a duo operating system where I
can have 2 computers in one.

I understand that in order to do this I need to reload windows 98 first and
then the XP program. But what I need to know are the steps I need to take in
order to remove XP and reload in the right order and not have boot problems.

If this is understandable, please let me know if you can help with my lack
of knowledge.

Thanks,

mdf


"Jeggs" wrote:

To set up more than one os on the same computer, you need a partition
manager like fdisk and a boot manager like Bootmagic.

1. First make partitions for each os you will install.
2. Now assign names and icons to the partitions in the boot manager.
3. Finally start each partition and install the os's on them.


I hope this has come in handy.


Thanks Jeggy

Take a look at a shareware program called BootIt NG.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/boo...generation.htm

If you have enough disk space on the primary drive, you can copy
the older ones partition to the new systems drive, setup another
operating system boot entry and just select the one you want from a
simple menu. It also allows you to swap drives at boot time if I
remember correctly. I have Windows XP, Windows 98 and a couple Linux
operating systems on this PC. If you write their tech support staff,
they are usually very helpful and will show you how to do what you
want. Since it's shareware, you can try most of the features before
deciding if you want it.

  #16  
Old March 1st 10, 08:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
adam22
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Posts: 2
Default Setting up multiple operating systems on one computer.

hey dose't any one know if you can change the order of the operating system
list in boot manger, at the momment it have:

window 7
windows vista

but would like windows vista first as if i dose't change it in time it goes
in today windows 7

thanks in advance adam


"Jeggs" wrote:

To set up more than one os on the same computer, you need a partition
manager like fdisk and a boot manager like Bootmagic.

1. First make partitions for each os you will install.
2. Now assign names and icons to the partitions in the boot manager.
3. Finally start each partition and install the os's on them.


I hope this has come in handy.


Thanks Jeggy

  #17  
Old March 1st 10, 08:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
adam22
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2
Default Setting up multiple operating systems on one computer.

hey dose't any one know if you can change the order of the operating system
list in boot manger, at the momment it have:

window 7
windows vista

but would like windows vista first as if i dose't change it in time it goes
in today windows 7

thanks in advance adam


"Jeggs" wrote:

To set up more than one os on the same computer, you need a partition
manager like fdisk and a boot manager like Bootmagic.

1. First make partitions for each os you will install.
2. Now assign names and icons to the partitions in the boot manager.
3. Finally start each partition and install the os's on them.


I hope this has come in handy.


Thanks Jeggy

  #18  
Old March 1st 10, 10:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Alan Edwards
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Posts: 329
Default Setting up multiple operating systems on one computer.

This is hardly a Win98 setup question and this old newsgroup doesn't
attract much traffic.
Please try a more relevant group.

....Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
http://dts-l.com/index.htm



On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 00:40:02 -0800, in microsoft.public.win98.setup,
adam22 wrote:

hey dose't any one know if you can change the order of the operating system
list in boot manger, at the momment it have:

window 7
windows vista

but would like windows vista first as if i dose't change it in time it goes
in today windows 7

thanks in advance adam


  #19  
Old March 1st 10, 10:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Alan Edwards
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 329
Default Setting up multiple operating systems on one computer.

This is hardly a Win98 setup question and this old newsgroup doesn't
attract much traffic.
Please try a more relevant group.

....Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
http://dts-l.com/index.htm



On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 00:40:02 -0800, in microsoft.public.win98.setup,
adam22 wrote:

hey dose't any one know if you can change the order of the operating system
list in boot manger, at the momment it have:

window 7
windows vista

but would like windows vista first as if i dose't change it in time it goes
in today windows 7

thanks in advance adam


 




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