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reinstalling Windows 98
There was apparently a problem installing the WDM device. You can try going
into it's Properties and disabling it, restart and see if the error goes away. I'm not completely sure what the device does but I think it's primarily used for games. See if you can get along without it, test things out, and if not, I guess you'll have to reinstall the drivers. But you might want to read my article, first, "Clean Boot --- What it is and why you need it." http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept something about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept some "windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers? i installed that drivers.... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still have an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes from.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start up.why i had extremly luck about the start menu? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: This is from restoring a Registry backup? That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked other questions in that regard. Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But I don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu when your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how do you switch? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you... now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading EGACCESS 4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from before,i guess from some start up program... and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that? Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through all the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work, it is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options. Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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reinstalling Windows 98
There was apparently a problem installing the WDM device. You can try going
into it's Properties and disabling it, restart and see if the error goes away. I'm not completely sure what the device does but I think it's primarily used for games. See if you can get along without it, test things out, and if not, I guess you'll have to reinstall the drivers. But you might want to read my article, first, "Clean Boot --- What it is and why you need it." http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept something about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept some "windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers? i installed that drivers.... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still have an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes from.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start up.why i had extremly luck about the start menu? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: This is from restoring a Registry backup? That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked other questions in that regard. Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But I don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu when your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how do you switch? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you... now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading EGACCESS 4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from before,i guess from some start up program... and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that? Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through all the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work, it is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options. Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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reinstalling Windows 98
Well anyway,thank you very much again for helping me,about that driver i dont
worry,because its not important to me,the main thing i ok,thats all that matters...i`ll read the ling you send me later, thank you very,very,very much..... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: There was apparently a problem installing the WDM device. You can try going into it's Properties and disabling it, restart and see if the error goes away. I'm not completely sure what the device does but I think it's primarily used for games. See if you can get along without it, test things out, and if not, I guess you'll have to reinstall the drivers. But you might want to read my article, first, "Clean Boot --- What it is and why you need it." http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept something about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept some "windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers? i installed that drivers.... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still have an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes from.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start up.why i had extremly luck about the start menu? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: This is from restoring a Registry backup? That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked other questions in that regard. Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But I don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu when your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how do you switch? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you... now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading EGACCESS 4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from before,i guess from some start up program... and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that? Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through all the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work, it is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options. Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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Well anyway,thank you very much again for helping me,about that driver i dont
worry,because its not important to me,the main thing i ok,thats all that matters...i`ll read the ling you send me later, thank you very,very,very much..... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: There was apparently a problem installing the WDM device. You can try going into it's Properties and disabling it, restart and see if the error goes away. I'm not completely sure what the device does but I think it's primarily used for games. See if you can get along without it, test things out, and if not, I guess you'll have to reinstall the drivers. But you might want to read my article, first, "Clean Boot --- What it is and why you need it." http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept something about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept some "windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers? i installed that drivers.... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still have an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes from.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start up.why i had extremly luck about the start menu? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: This is from restoring a Registry backup? That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked other questions in that regard. Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But I don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu when your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how do you switch? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you... now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading EGACCESS 4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from before,i guess from some start up program... and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that? Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through all the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work, it is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options. Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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You're welcome.
-- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... Well anyway,thank you very much again for helping me,about that driver i dont worry,because its not important to me,the main thing i ok,thats all that matters...i`ll read the ling you send me later, thank you very,very,very much..... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: There was apparently a problem installing the WDM device. You can try going into it's Properties and disabling it, restart and see if the error goes away. I'm not completely sure what the device does but I think it's primarily used for games. See if you can get along without it, test things out, and if not, I guess you'll have to reinstall the drivers. But you might want to read my article, first, "Clean Boot --- What it is and why you need it." http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept something about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept some "windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers? i installed that drivers.... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still have an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes from.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start up.why i had extremly luck about the start menu? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: This is from restoring a Registry backup? That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked other questions in that regard. Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But I don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu when your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how do you switch? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you... now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading EGACCESS 4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from before,i guess from some start up program... and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that? Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through all the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work, it is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options. Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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-- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... Well anyway,thank you very much again for helping me,about that driver i dont worry,because its not important to me,the main thing i ok,thats all that matters...i`ll read the ling you send me later, thank you very,very,very much..... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: There was apparently a problem installing the WDM device. You can try going into it's Properties and disabling it, restart and see if the error goes away. I'm not completely sure what the device does but I think it's primarily used for games. See if you can get along without it, test things out, and if not, I guess you'll have to reinstall the drivers. But you might want to read my article, first, "Clean Boot --- What it is and why you need it." http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept something about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept some "windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers? i installed that drivers.... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still have an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes from.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start up.why i had extremly luck about the start menu? "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: This is from restoring a Registry backup? That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked other questions in that regard. Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But I don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu when your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how do you switch? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you... now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading EGACCESS 4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from before,i guess from some start up program... and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that? Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through all the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work, it is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options. Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Vlatko" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not recommended except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get your personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An "over the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not always), but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files. You have lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and while there are some protections against this, they aren't many. As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the internet, you really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box is going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost certainly NOT recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day. But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system. First, can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a few ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately begin to repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the key down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen key about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a Startup Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key in the same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the Startup Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on different machines. If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate solutions. Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose Selective Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items". Next, click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check the item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get into whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK, then click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you should physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between the wall and your computer. All your background protective applications have been turned off.) Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the first step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also while the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i cannot find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with the windows, you should buy again.... As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install drivers, when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave me some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i think? and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the driver,as i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it was making the "updating system settings" and stuck... So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck after the password request... was this history of the happenings helpfull? |
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