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System Restore
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=279736 To boot to DOS in ME you have to use a Boot Disk - if you don't have an ME disk, then download the OEM ME Boot diskmaker from www.bootdisk.com, run it to create the floppy, then boot from said floppy. Did you remember the cautions with TweakUI??? Note - there are a few cautions with TweakUI:- 1) Do *not* change the first icon from "My Documents" on the Desktop tab 2) Do *not* uncheck: Search Results on the Desktop tab 3) Do *not* hide the Tweak UI icon on the Control Panel tab 4) Do *not* uncheck: Show Control Panel on Start Menu on the IE tab 5) Do *not* uncheck: Shell enhancements on the IE tab 6) To move "My Documents" folder, right-click on the Folder, and click Properties. HTH -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ms" wrote in message ... ms wrote: A used Dell computer, no system disks, no ME install disk. It is running ME, IMO it originally came from Dell with W98SE installed. ME does not appear in Add/Remove programs. How to cleanly uninstall ME? Thanks to all for good data. Based on this, I decided to keep ME and work with it. I loaded one of my W98 utilities, and it tripped me up. Tweakui ver. 1.33 IMO would work in ME, but it does not. It really screwed things up. My Control Panel is gone, Accessories in Start Menu is gone, etc. Need some help: 1. How to get to a DOS prompt- see no way to do it? In W98SE, when a glitch occurs, I go to a DOS prompt, scanreg/restore, I pick an earlier registry to load, and go back to before the glitch. How to do that in ME? 2. What does System Restore do, and how to activate it? Will this help the situation? BTW, I've seen several comments to get rid of it. 3. How to get Control Panel back? 4. How to get the Accessories folder shortcut back into Start Menu? 5. In the Shutdown screen, in W98, I have "go to DOS prompt", not in ME, how to create that? 6. How to create a ME boot disk? 7. Now the Password screen is coming up, I know the W98 fixes, are there any unique ME fixes? 8. How to remove Network Neighborhood from desktop? Thanks |
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Noel Paton wrote:
System Restore http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=279736 To boot to DOS in ME you have to use a Boot Disk - if you don't have an ME disk, then download the OEM ME Boot diskmaker from www.bootdisk.com, run it to create the floppy, then boot from said floppy. Thanks for the links. The boot disk will start my recovery process. I gather that ME does not have the scanreg/restore option, and uses System Restore? Did you remember the cautions with TweakUI??? Note - there are a few cautions with TweakUI:- 1) Do *not* change the first icon from "My Documents" on the Desktop tab 2) Do *not* uncheck: Search Results on the Desktop tab 3) Do *not* hide the Tweak UI icon on the Control Panel tab 4) Do *not* uncheck: Show Control Panel on Start Menu on the IE tab 5) Do *not* uncheck: Shell enhancements on the IE tab 6) To move "My Documents" folder, right-click on the Folder, and click Properties. I've used Tweakui in W95/98 for IIRC about 7 years, saved info, never saw your data above before. Still, I never unchecked "show Control Panel", or Accessories, etc. Tweakui did these things in error. On a W98 ng, an expert there never uses Tweakui, I've never had a problem in W98SE. But I had exactly what he described when I used it in ME. Is there a safe version of Tweakui to use in ME? Thanks again for your help, will report back when I start with the boot disk. |
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ms wrote:
Need some help: 1. How to get to a DOS prompt- see no way to do it? Technically you're supposed to use the EBD (Emergency Boot Disk), makeable from ControlPanel/AddRemoveSoftware|StartupDisk. But there's freeware out there to let you boot from C: into DOS. 2. What does System Restore do, and how to activate it? Will this help the situation? BTW, I've seen several comments to get rid of it. It saves system files so if you screw up you can restore them; just pick a Restore Point from before you fiddled with UI. 3. How to get Control Panel back? see above. 4. How to get the Accessories folder shortcut back into Start Menu? 5. In the Shutdown screen, in W98, I have "go to DOS prompt", not in ME, how to create that? with really incredible difficulty. No idea. 6. How to create a ME boot disk? see above. 7. Now the Password screen is coming up, I know the W98 fixes, are there any unique ME fixes? eh? As long as you haven't got M$ Networking installed you should be able to fix it by not entering a password. 8. How to remove Network Neighborhood from desktop? see above, then delete. Rick Thanks |
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(what Mike said!)
-- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Mike M" wrote in message ... You can use scanreg /restore with Win Me as you can with Win 98/98SE but remember this just restores the registry rather than system restore which will also restore any modified or deleted system files. IOW system restore is far more powerful and useful than scanreg when a user is experiencing serious problems. Turning to TweakUI, v1.33 was written and released for use with Win Me. TweakUI is perfectly safe, what is not is what a user can do with TweakUI. g Hence the list of gotchas that Noel posted. Also TweakUI should not have caused the loss of the Accessories folder in Start | Programs and I don't actually think it can cause that particular problem nor is TweakUI the cause of an empty control panel - something that is far more often the result of unwanted malware. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP ms wrote: Noel Paton wrote: System Restore http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=279736 To boot to DOS in ME you have to use a Boot Disk - if you don't have an ME disk, then download the OEM ME Boot diskmaker from www.bootdisk.com, run it to create the floppy, then boot from said floppy. Thanks for the links. The boot disk will start my recovery process. I gather that ME does not have the scanreg/restore option, and uses System Restore? Did you remember the cautions with TweakUI??? Note - there are a few cautions with TweakUI:- 1) Do *not* change the first icon from "My Documents" on the Desktop tab 2) Do *not* uncheck: Search Results on the Desktop tab 3) Do *not* hide the Tweak UI icon on the Control Panel tab 4) Do *not* uncheck: Show Control Panel on Start Menu on the IE tab 5) Do *not* uncheck: Shell enhancements on the IE tab 6) To move "My Documents" folder, right-click on the Folder, and click Properties. I've used Tweakui in W95/98 for IIRC about 7 years, saved info, never saw your data above before. Still, I never unchecked "show Control Panel", or Accessories, etc. Tweakui did these things in error. On a W98 ng, an expert there never uses Tweakui, I've never had a problem in W98SE. But I had exactly what he described when I used it in ME. Is there a safe version of Tweakui to use in ME? Thanks again for your help, will report back when I start with the boot disk. |
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"Restart Computer in MS-DOS Mode" Option Is Not Available in the Shutdown
Dialog Box" http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;262846 How to Prevent a Windows Me/98/95 Logon Prompt at Startup http://support.microsoft.com/support.../q152/1/04.asp Description of the Windows Registry Checker Tool (Scanreg.exe) http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;183887 ----- Fix no Control Panel after TweakUI use Run regedit and navigate to HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer Find the "NoControlPanel" entry in the right pane and delete it. -- Tom Porterfield MS-MVP DTS http://users.vei.net/tomp/support ---------- This Registry patch will undo what you did and give you the functioning back. It's from http://www.aumha.org/regfiles.htm Always back up your Registry before applying any such patch! REGEDIT4 ;This Registry file restores Control Panel access from Start Menu "Settings." ;It's primary use is to restore this if you've used TweakUI to remove it. [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor er] "NoControlPanel"=hex:00, 00, 00, 00 Note the regedit4 file must have a blank line at its end. -- Jim Eshelman ---- And I recommend running all your anti-spyware tools and your AV tool to confirm that the machine is clean. And Defrag. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... (what Mike said!) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Mike M" wrote in message ... You can use scanreg /restore with Win Me as you can with Win 98/98SE but remember this just restores the registry rather than system restore which will also restore any modified or deleted system files. IOW system restore is far more powerful and useful than scanreg when a user is experiencing serious problems. Turning to TweakUI, v1.33 was written and released for use with Win Me. TweakUI is perfectly safe, what is not is what a user can do with TweakUI. g Hence the list of gotchas that Noel posted. Also TweakUI should not have caused the loss of the Accessories folder in Start | Programs and I don't actually think it can cause that particular problem nor is TweakUI the cause of an empty control panel - something that is far more often the result of unwanted malware. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP ms wrote: Noel Paton wrote: System Restore http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=279736 To boot to DOS in ME you have to use a Boot Disk - if you don't have an ME disk, then download the OEM ME Boot diskmaker from www.bootdisk.com, run it to create the floppy, then boot from said floppy. Thanks for the links. The boot disk will start my recovery process. I gather that ME does not have the scanreg/restore option, and uses System Restore? Did you remember the cautions with TweakUI??? Note - there are a few cautions with TweakUI:- 1) Do *not* change the first icon from "My Documents" on the Desktop tab 2) Do *not* uncheck: Search Results on the Desktop tab 3) Do *not* hide the Tweak UI icon on the Control Panel tab 4) Do *not* uncheck: Show Control Panel on Start Menu on the IE tab 5) Do *not* uncheck: Shell enhancements on the IE tab 6) To move "My Documents" folder, right-click on the Folder, and click Properties. I've used Tweakui in W95/98 for IIRC about 7 years, saved info, never saw your data above before. Still, I never unchecked "show Control Panel", or Accessories, etc. Tweakui did these things in error. On a W98 ng, an expert there never uses Tweakui, I've never had a problem in W98SE. But I had exactly what he described when I used it in ME. Is there a safe version of Tweakui to use in ME? Thanks again for your help, will report back when I start with the boot disk. |
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Jack E Martinelli wrote:
----- Fix no Control Panel after TweakUI use Run regedit and navigate to HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer Find the "NoControlPanel" entry in the right pane and delete it. This Registry patch will undo what you did and give you the functioning back. It's from http://www.aumha.org/regfiles.htm Always back up your Registry before applying any such patch! REGEDIT4 ;This Registry file restores Control Panel access from Start Menu "Settings." ;It's primary use is to restore this if you've used TweakUI to remove it. [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor er] "NoControlPanel"=hex:00, 00, 00, 00 Note the regedit4 file must have a blank line at its end. -- Jim Eshelman ---- And I recommend running all your anti-spyware tools and your AV tool to confirm that the machine is clean. And Defrag. Thanks to ALL for the advice. An update: Fix no Control Panel after TweakUI use Run regedit and navigate to HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer Find the "NoControlPanel" entry in the right pane and delete it. Can't do it. Under Control Panel, no entry as above. This Registry patch will undo what you did and give you the functioning back. It's from http://www.aumha.org/regfiles.htm This worked fine, I have Control Panel back, went back and corrected any changes from Noel's post. For some reason, scanreg/ restore would not run- bad command? So the only remaining issue- I don't have Accessories folder in Start Menu. It was deleted after settings in Tweakui and reboot, if I did it as a setting, it's a puzzle. Anyway, how to get Accessories folder restored? So I can try System Restore. I tried running System Restore from a command prompt as in the app note, but I could not edit registry first as indicated, again got "bad command". TIA |
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Two points and a possible solution.
1) The command is SCANREG /RESTORE, note the space between scanreg and the forward slash. 2) Using TweakUI will not have removed the Accessories folder. TweakUI does not include such functionality which would involve the deletion of a folder. TweakUI doesn't delete folders, just make changes to the registry. First check that the Accessories folder wasn't accidentally dragged into another folder on the Start Menu. If not then you will need to rebuild the folder by recreating the folder Accessories in Windows\Start Menu\Programs and then populating it with the sub-folders you require such as System Tools and then making shortcuts to the various utilities and placing those shortcuts in either the Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories folder or its sub-folders. For example the System Tools folder simply contains shortcuts to applications rather than the application concerned so all that it necessary, if you cannot find the folder, is to create another and then populate it with new shortcuts to the various applications concerned. I've listed below the various entries and the targets for the shortcuts. The System Tools folder would have included shortcuts to ... Character Map - C:\Windows\Charmap.exe Clipboard Viewer - C:\Windows\Clipbrd.exe Disk Cleanup - C:\Windows\Cleanmgr.exe Disk Defragmenter - C:\Windows\Defrag.exe Maintenance Wizard - C:\Windows\Tuneup.exe Resource Meter - C:\Windows\Rscrmtr.exe ScanDisk - C:\Windows\Scandskw.exe Scheduled Tasks - C:\Windows\Explorer.exe ,::{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}\::{D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} System Information - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\MSInfo\MSInfo32.exe System Monitor - C:\Windows\Sysmon.exe System Restore - C:\Windows\\System\Restore\Rstrui.exe However you do not need the accessories folder to use system restore. There are several ways of launching system restore other than by using the missing shortcut in the System Tools folder including: a) From the link in Help & Support b) From the link on the General tab of MSConfig (Start, Run, enter MSConfig and click OK), c) By entering C:\windows\system\rstrui.exe in the Start | Run box and clicking OK, or, d) By directly double clicking the file rstrui.exe (Use Windows Explorer, rstrui.exe is in the windows\system\restore folder). -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP ms wrote: Jack E Martinelli wrote: ----- Fix no Control Panel after TweakUI use Run regedit and navigate to HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer Find the "NoControlPanel" entry in the right pane and delete it. This Registry patch will undo what you did and give you the functioning back. It's from http://www.aumha.org/regfiles.htm Always back up your Registry before applying any such patch! REGEDIT4 ;This Registry file restores Control Panel access from Start Menu "Settings." ;It's primary use is to restore this if you've used TweakUI to remove it. [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor er] "NoControlPanel"=hex:00, 00, 00, 00 Note the regedit4 file must have a blank line at its end. -- Jim Eshelman ---- And I recommend running all your anti-spyware tools and your AV tool to confirm that the machine is clean. And Defrag. Thanks to ALL for the advice. An update: Fix no Control Panel after TweakUI use Run regedit and navigate to HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer Find the "NoControlPanel" entry in the right pane and delete it. Can't do it. Under Control Panel, no entry as above. This Registry patch will undo what you did and give you the functioning back. It's from http://www.aumha.org/regfiles.htm This worked fine, I have Control Panel back, went back and corrected any changes from Noel's post. For some reason, scanreg/ restore would not run- bad command? So the only remaining issue- I don't have Accessories folder in Start Menu. It was deleted after settings in Tweakui and reboot, if I did it as a setting, it's a puzzle. Anyway, how to get Accessories folder restored? So I can try System Restore. I tried running System Restore from a command prompt as in the app note, but I could not edit registry first as indicated, again got "bad command". TIA |
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Mike M wrote:
Two points and a possible solution. 1) The command is SCANREG /RESTORE, note the space between scanreg and the forward slash. 2) Using TweakUI will not have removed the Accessories folder. TweakUI does not include such functionality which would involve the deletion of a folder. TweakUI doesn't delete folders, just make changes to the registry. First check that the Accessories folder wasn't accidentally dragged into another folder on the Start Menu. If not then you will need to rebuild the folder by recreating the folder Accessories in Windows\Start Menu\Programs and then populating it with the sub-folders you require such as System Tools and then making shortcuts to the various utilities and placing those shortcuts in either the Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories folder or its sub-folders. For example the System Tools folder simply contains shortcuts to applications rather than the application concerned so all that it necessary, if you cannot find the folder, is to create another and then populate it with new shortcuts to the various applications concerned. I've listed below the various entries and the targets for the shortcuts. Thanks Mike. Didn't realize it's just a normal folder that I can create in the usual way. And I will run System Restore to see about it. Again, several experts say to dump it. scanreg: I typed scanreg... just as in a MS appnote, although I use it frequently in W98SE. Pretty sure I had it right, but will try again. Item I forgot to reply to Jack's post, I ran the latest Stinger, it found nothing. (I assume you folks know about that one?) And used CCleaner to clean out the garbage from previous owner. I will fight the password screen, but that's the usual stuff. On my machines, it has never been easy, and it was caused on this machine after (I did something ?) I used Tweakui. Mike S |
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Mike,
Those folks who advise you to dump system restore clearly know little of what they speak. vbg Such is ignorance. :-) Fight the password screen? What's the problem? Ensure that you are using Windows Logon rather than Family Logon and use a null password and it will never trouble you again. Delete the [user],pwl file in the windows folder, reboot and when asked for a password leave the box blank and click OK. Do NOT click either Escape or Cancel. You should now never be troubled by being asked for a password again. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP ms wrote: Thanks Mike. Didn't realize it's just a normal folder that I can create in the usual way. And I will run System Restore to see about it. Again, several experts say to dump it. scanreg: I typed scanreg... just as in a MS appnote, although I use it frequently in W98SE. Pretty sure I had it right, but will try again. Item I forgot to reply to Jack's post, I ran the latest Stinger, it found nothing. (I assume you folks know about that one?) And used CCleaner to clean out the garbage from previous owner. I will fight the password screen, but that's the usual stuff. On my machines, it has never been easy, and it was caused on this machine after (I did something ?) I used Tweakui. |
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