"not enough free memory to run this program"

Hi,
Using ME, when I boot up, and try to launch IE, I get error message "There
isnot enough free memory to run this program." Can anyone tell me how to
troubleshoot this?? Thanks very much! -h

Heather,

I'm no expert, but you might try emptying your IE cache. Other-click the IE
icon on your desktop and on the General Tab, under Temporary Internet Files,
click Delete Files--then, when the small box comes up, be sure you check
"Delete all offline content." All the text, images, and sounds in every
piece of stationery you view with OE are stashed in IE's cache and will
remain there forever if you never "Delete all offline content."

There is also a little free program available that does a thorough job of
emptying the TIF folder. It's called 'TIFCheck' and you can get it he
http://www.lettermanstationery.com/tifcheck.htm

You might also consider increasing the size of IE's cache--adjust it with
the Settings button next to the Delete Files button on the General Tab.

carol



"heather" wrote in message
...
Hi,
Using ME, when I boot up, and try to launch IE, I get error message "There
isnot enough free memory to run this program." Can anyone tell me how to
troubleshoot this?? Thanks very much! -h

FWIW, there are more problems caused by an overlarge TIF than by one that's
too small - I routinely reset the TIF to 40MB an all machines I work on.

The OP's problem could also be either
1) a constrained swapfile
2) a corrupted swapfile
3) low disk space
4) something else.

To hopefully fix both 1) and 2) open System Properties |Advanced - click on
the Virtual Memory button,and then put a check in 'Disable virtual
memory...'
OK out and reboot TO SAFE MODE - once in Safe Mode, go back in and Uncheck
the entry again, then reboot back to normal mode

Frequent causes of low disk space include
a) a full TEMP folder - reboot the system, and then delete the ENTIRE
contents of the C:\Windows\TEMP folder - but not the folder itself.
b) an overflowing System Restore archive (frequently itself caused by Norton
products) - check and see if any of the above cure your problem first - then
come back with the results fo the following.

you first need to set up Windows Explorer (My Computer) to be able to see
Hidden and System files and folders. Open Windows Explorer, and click on the
Tools item in the menu bar. Click on Folder Options - the Folder Option UI
will appear. Click on the View tab, and look at the items around 6th to 10th
on the list. Under the 'Hidden files and folders' heading, check the 'Show
hidden files and folders' radio button. Just below that UNtick the 'Hide
protected operating system files' checkbox. Click on OK to return to Windows
Explorer.
Now navigate to the C: drive, and open that so that you can see the
contents. The first folder in the C: drive is usually _RESTORE - right click
on that folder icon, and select Properties. You can see there, the amount of
space that SR is currently using, and the number of files it's got. The
number of folders *should* be 5 - if it's anything else, then you have a
problem! If the number of files is very high (around 30,000 or so), then you
also have a problem! Post back with these results.

Now r-click on the C: drive icon, and select Properties - what is the size
of the drive, and how much free space is there?

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)


Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Heather,

I'm no expert, but you might try emptying your IE cache. Other-click the
IE
icon on your desktop and on the General Tab, under Temporary Internet
Files,
click Delete Files--then, when the small box comes up, be sure you check
"Delete all offline content." All the text, images, and sounds in every
piece of stationery you view with OE are stashed in IE's cache and will
remain there forever if you never "Delete all offline content."

There is also a little free program available that does a thorough job of
emptying the TIF folder. It's called 'TIFCheck' and you can get it he
http://www.lettermanstationery.com/tifcheck.htm

You might also consider increasing the size of IE's cache--adjust it with
the Settings button next to the Delete Files button on the General Tab.

carol



"heather" wrote in message
...
Hi,
Using ME, when I boot up, and try to launch IE, I get error message
"There
isnot enough free memory to run this program." Can anyone tell me how to
troubleshoot this?? Thanks very much! -h

Hi Noel

As I said I'm no expert, so I'm especially glad you've jumped in here
because--if you haven't already guessed--I've been having this problem
myself. Here's my two-month-long story; sorry it's verbose, but please
read on--it does have a sort of conclusion ;-)

It all began September 17 when I tried to preview a newsgroup stationery
that had a media player embedded in it for streaming a choice of WMAs. OE
never got to first base--it froze up and its whole display vanished except
for the window frame. I cut the power, rebooted, and all seemed well;
shutdown perfect--but the next morning at boot-up ScanDisk appeared to
perform a thorough scan of C. I didn't have time to wait for its attempts
to check 80 GB (it won't complete anyway), so I canceled, let Windows load,
then did a standard scan. The final report was that I suddenly had 32 KB in
a bad sector (the drive was brand new in March).

Without opening it, I extracted the script from the post that crashed me to
inspect--but it looked okay. Then OE started causing exceptions "in VxD"
when I previewed stationery (I use OE to write scripted
stationery)--especially when I had waves and midis playing--and IE began
crashing when playing music and videos online too ("WMP7 has caused a fault
in wmnetmgr.dll"). I began to think that that lock-up had definitely
corrupted something. I searched the net for info.

I upgraded WMP7 to WMP7.1--but music still crashed me. I did a Windows
diagnostic test on my Sound Blaster and got a blue screen--so I installed a
new driver for it. Then avast! caused a blue screen too, so I ran a
thorough virus scan and disabled its on-access protection. And I emptied
IE's cache with Disk Cleanup then "repaired" it too--but no fix; and opening
programs that use complex HTML, like Windows own System Information, were
starting to give me the "not enough memory" warning.

So I decided I'd uninstall/reinstall IE, but thought to run Bill Scott's TIF
check first. After Windows had supposedly cleared IE's cache, TIFCheck found
100,766,429 bytes of stuff hiding in the the multitudinous detritus of
my stationery-making/previewing/letter-reading--"offline" graphics, scripts,
efonts, midis, photo attachments--was obviously still in there! And I had
my cache size set to exactly 100 MB :-( TIFCheck totally emptied it (except
of course for the megabyte of index.dat) and I hoped my problem was
over--but no dice.

After three lock-ups Wednesday--two of them by WinExp--and a ScanDisk report
that the quantity of bad sectors was now up to three, I uninstalled
then reinstalled IE 5.5 Service Pack 2. (No scolding please! I tried OE 6
for Me and it's really screwy. Especially didn't like the way it changed
the behavior of WinExp; got rid of it when I replaced my C drive).
Afterwards I went to Windows update to see what patches were missing. There
were some for IE and Me as well as WMP7.1.

I first downloaded them all from the catalog to a folder then had Windows
Update do the install. Twice it got about half-way through installation
then told me there wasn't "enough memory to run this program," etc. By
using the task manager to close that stuck dialog, I noticed it had hung up
on the first WMP update--so I did the scan again and chose to install all
but the three WMP updates. No problem! I rescanned, chose the WMP updates,
and got the "not enough memory" warning right off. So I bit the bullet and
updated WMP to version 9--then went to Bill Scott's site to get his WMP9
Registry Toolkit so I could continue to embed fonts in my email. In the
"readme" included with his fix-it program I found this:

"Make sure to keep your IE Temporary Internet Files folder clean. A full TIF
may cause additional problems with OE and the new WMP9 player."


Of course all this time I've had plenty of memory--512 MB RAM and the
resource meter in the green. So my conclusion--at this point--is that my
troubles resulted from OE gagging and corrupting WMP7 when the TIF was maxed
with "offline content." I don't know if overwriting WMP7 with 9 will
ammend it, but I've also reset my cache to 1000 MB (just in case I ever
forget to totally empty it again) and am keeping my fingers crossed. And in
the event it's still not up to snuff, and thanks to you, I now have other
options to try before I resort to the dreaded Last Resort. If you can think
of anything else I might do, I'd be ever so grateful!

carol


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
FWIW, there are more problems caused by an overlarge TIF than by one
that's
too small - I routinely reset the TIF to 40MB an all machines I work on.

The OP's problem could also be either
1) a constrained swapfile
2) a corrupted swapfile
3) low disk space
4) something else.

To hopefully fix both 1) and 2) open System Properties |Advanced - click
on
the Virtual Memory button,and then put a check in 'Disable virtual
memory...'
OK out and reboot TO SAFE MODE - once in Safe Mode, go back in and Uncheck
the entry again, then reboot back to normal mode

Frequent causes of low disk space include
a) a full TEMP folder - reboot the system, and then delete the ENTIRE
contents of the C:\Windows\TEMP folder - but not the folder itself.
b) an overflowing System Restore archive (frequently itself caused by
Norton
products) - check and see if any of the above cure your problem first -
then
come back with the results fo the following.

you first need to set up Windows Explorer (My Computer) to be able to see
Hidden and System files and folders. Open Windows Explorer, and click on
the
Tools item in the menu bar. Click on Folder Options - the Folder Option UI
will appear. Click on the View tab, and look at the items around 6th to
10th
on the list. Under the 'Hidden files and folders' heading, check the 'Show
hidden files and folders' radio button. Just below that UNtick the 'Hide
protected operating system files' checkbox. Click on OK to return to
Windows
Explorer.
Now navigate to the C: drive, and open that so that you can see the
contents. The first folder in the C: drive is usually _RESTORE - right
click
on that folder icon, and select Properties. You can see there, the amount
of
space that SR is currently using, and the number of files it's got. The
number of folders *should* be 5 - if it's anything else, then you have a
problem! If the number of files is very high (around 30,000 or so), then
you
also have a problem! Post back with these results.

Now r-click on the C: drive icon, and select Properties - what is the size
of the drive, and how much free space is there?

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)


Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Heather,

I'm no expert, but you might try emptying your IE cache. Other-click
the
IE
icon on your desktop and on the General Tab, under Temporary Internet
Files,
click Delete Files--then, when the small box comes up, be sure you check
"Delete all offline content." All the text, images, and sounds in every
piece of stationery you view with OE are stashed in IE's cache and will
remain there forever if you never "Delete all offline content."

There is also a little free program available that does a thorough job
of
emptying the TIF folder. It's called 'TIFCheck' and you can get it
he
http://www.lettermanstationery.com/tifcheck.htm

You might also consider increasing the size of IE's cache--adjust it
with
the Settings button next to the Delete Files button on the General Tab.

carol



"heather" wrote in message
...
Hi,
Using ME, when I boot up, and try to launch IE, I get error message
"There
isnot enough free memory to run this program." Can anyone tell me how
to
troubleshoot this?? Thanks very much! -h

Inline.....

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Hi Noel

As I said I'm no expert, so I'm especially glad you've jumped in here
because--if you haven't already guessed--I've been having this problem
myself. Here's my two-month-long story; sorry it's verbose, but please
read on--it does have a sort of conclusion ;-)

It all began September 17 when I tried to preview a newsgroup stationery
that had a media player embedded in it for streaming a choice of WMAs. OE
never got to first base--it froze up and its whole display vanished except
for the window frame. I cut the power, rebooted, and all seemed well;

Why reboot for something that should only have needed a C-A-D???

shutdown perfect--but the next morning at boot-up ScanDisk appeared to
perform a thorough scan of C.

Not surprised at all - shutting down an OS when the HD is working is GOING
to cause this result.

I didn't have time to wait for its attempts
to check 80 GB (it won't complete anyway), so I canceled, let Windows
load,
then did a standard scan. The final report was that I suddenly had 32 KB
in
a bad sector (the drive was brand new in March).

SO? - you can have bad sectors on new drives (if you're unlucky) - but the
fact that this shows in Scandisk Normal scan is a BAD SIGN! - the HD is
going west!


snip irrelevances
I now have other
options to try before I resort to the dreaded Last Resort. If you can
think
of anything else I might do, I'd be ever so grateful!

Sorry - it's time for a new hard drive!!! - download the manufacturer's test
program, and run it overnight (or the 'detail' test, or whatever they call
it) - not ethe results, and (assuming hte results confirm my diagnosis) ask
for an RMA. they should put one in the post the next day.

Thanks Noel

I had no idea manufacturers had programs available to test their products.
I visited Samsung and went round and round from page to page looking for a
test for their hard drive, but all I saw were instructions to Fdisk and hope
it doesn't come up with bad news!? Guess I need to make a phone call.

I took another look through Windows' System Information and found this
listing under Problem Devices:

ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering ACPI\*PNP0C0F\00000002 22

I have no idea what this refers to or signifies. All devices in the Device
Manager are "working properly."

And here's something else I've found: because I'm still getting the
"not enough memory" warning, I wanted to try clearing the virtual memory in
the manner you suggested for Heather. I've already emptied Windows/Temp
and checked the size of my Restore which is 5 files and 631MB (931 on
disk--I have it set to 1990MB). But when I got into the System Properties/
Virtual Memory dialog I found the free space in the drop down list under
"Let me specify. . ." tallied as C:\ -4262 MB Free, D:\-20958 MB Free,
E:\2804 MB Free. In My Computer the free space on C is 59.8GB; on D,
43.5GB; and on E, 2.73GB. How can this dialog be telling me I have negative
free space on C and D?

In my earlier search for information, I read at Microsoft that sometimes bad
sectors on a hard drive reflect a corrupted bit of a program and that even
though ScanDisk is supposed to be able to repair, the results are iffy.
It's disconcerting to find the number of bad sectors rising and I'm hoping
you can tell me a way to get ScanDisk to complete a thorough. I tried it
from safe mode and only got 80,000 of 2 million sectors checked before it
stopped to say it had restarted 10 times.

The whole computer locked up with the newsgroup stationery fiasco. I don't
remember if the cursor was free, but I had to cut the power to reboot--not
even the "Close Program" dialog could format--the display went totally blank
except for OE's window frame. I didn't get any scary results from the
ensuing standard ScanDisk--just the usual lost file fragments; the
bad sector news appeared with the following morning's ScanDisk after
boot-up.

Should I be posting in a new thread? Thanks so much for your time and help.

c


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Inline.....

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Hi Noel

As I said I'm no expert, so I'm especially glad you've jumped in here
because--if you haven't already guessed--I've been having this problem
myself. Here's my two-month-long story; sorry it's verbose, but please
read on--it does have a sort of conclusion ;-)

It all began September 17 when I tried to preview a newsgroup stationery
that had a media player embedded in it for streaming a choice of WMAs.
OE
never got to first base--it froze up and its whole display vanished
except
for the window frame. I cut the power, rebooted, and all seemed well;

Why reboot for something that should only have needed a C-A-D???

shutdown perfect--but the next morning at boot-up ScanDisk appeared to
perform a thorough scan of C.

Not surprised at all - shutting down an OS when the HD is working is GOING
to cause this result.

I didn't have time to wait for its attempts
to check 80 GB (it won't complete anyway), so I canceled, let Windows
load,
then did a standard scan. The final report was that I suddenly had 32
KB
in
a bad sector (the drive was brand new in March).

SO? - you can have bad sectors on new drives (if you're unlucky) - but
the
fact that this shows in Scandisk Normal scan is a BAD SIGN! - the HD is
going west!


snip irrelevances
I now have other
options to try before I resort to the dreaded Last Resort. If you can
think
of anything else I might do, I'd be ever so grateful!

Sorry - it's time for a new hard drive!!! - download the manufacturer's
test
program, and run it overnight (or the 'detail' test, or whatever they call
it) - not ethe results, and (assuming hte results confirm my diagnosis)
ask
for an RMA. they should put one in the post the next day.

Samsung FAQ's/Knowledge Base. - Where Can I Obtain A Free Hard Drive
Diagnostic Utility?

http://erms.samsungusa.com/customer/...6&PR OD_ID=-1

HTH and good luck

Mart

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Not Noel but...

ACPI IRQ Holder ...

See MS KB 272291 - "ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering" Problem Device
Entry in System Information Tool"
(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=272291) where you will find it stated
that what you are seeing is "by design".

Such entries are often the result of having changed the layout of your PCI
cards or following the removal of a card. Forget about this "error" as it
is unlikely to have an effect and is simply indicating that the place
holder previously used is no longer required.

Negative amounts of hard disk space when setting Virtual Memory ....

The negative disk space you are seeing is the result of a small cosmetic
bug in Win Me and happens when there is more than 32GB of free space on
the drive.

For more details see MS KB272620 - "Negative Hard Disk Free Size Reported
on Virtual Memory Tab in System Properties"
(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=272620). If you decide you want this
hotfix when you contact Microsoft give them details of the problem you are
having, your operating system and the hotfix you require. Provided you
ask no other technical questions there should be no charge other than the
cost of your phone call. If you have any problems ask to speak to a
supervisor and also please e-mail me details.

You can safely ignore both of these errors as neither is likely to have
anything to do with the problems you are reporting.
--
Mike Maltby



caroloyl wrote:

Thanks Noel

I had no idea manufacturers had programs available to test their
products. I visited Samsung and went round and round from page to
page looking for a test for their hard drive, but all I saw were
instructions to Fdisk and hope it doesn't come up with bad news!?
Guess I need to make a phone call.

I took another look through Windows' System Information and found this
listing under Problem Devices:

ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering ACPI\*PNP0C0F\00000002
22

I have no idea what this refers to or signifies. All devices in the
Device Manager are "working properly."

And here's something else I've found: because I'm still getting the
"not enough memory" warning, I wanted to try clearing the virtual
memory in the manner you suggested for Heather. I've already emptied
Windows/Temp and checked the size of my Restore which is 5 files and
631MB (931 on disk--I have it set to 1990MB). But when I got into the
System Properties/ Virtual Memory dialog I found the free space in
the drop down list under "Let me specify. . ." tallied as C:\ -4262
MB Free, D:\-20958 MB Free, E:\2804 MB Free. In My Computer the free
space on C is 59.8GB; on D,
43.5GB; and on E, 2.73GB. How can this dialog be telling me I have
negative free space on C and D?

In my earlier search for information, I read at Microsoft that
sometimes bad sectors on a hard drive reflect a corrupted bit of a
program and that even though ScanDisk is supposed to be able to
repair, the results are iffy. It's disconcerting to find the number
of bad sectors rising and I'm hoping you can tell me a way to get
ScanDisk to complete a thorough. I tried it from safe mode and only
got 80,000 of 2 million sectors checked before it stopped to say it
had restarted 10 times.

The whole computer locked up with the newsgroup stationery fiasco. I
don't remember if the cursor was free, but I had to cut the power to
reboot--not even the "Close Program" dialog could format--the display
went totally blank except for OE's window frame. I didn't get any
scary results from the ensuing standard ScanDisk--just the usual lost
file fragments; the
bad sector news appeared with the following morning's ScanDisk after
boot-up.

Should I be posting in a new thread? Thanks so much for your time
and help.

Thanks, M&M. ......
Homer mmmmm



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Samsung FAQ's/Knowledge Base. - Where Can I Obtain A Free Hard Drive
Diagnostic Utility?

http://erms.samsungusa.com/customer/...6&PR OD_ID=-1

HTH and good luck

Mart

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Thanks Guys for all the help!

Mart--I saw a page at Samsung that resembled the link you posted but there
was only one diagnostic program on it for hard drives that hadn't actually
been used yet. How do you find these things?? I even failed with their
search :-(


DOS is Greek to me, so I have one more question--about setting up
Samsung's "Hutil" on a floppy. Here are their instructions:

--Hutil is a DOS based utility so it is needed to prepare a bootable
1.44-MB diskette in advance.
--Download Hutil_creator.exe on the diskette prepared from the internet.
(Hutil_creator.exe is an auto extract execution file.)

What is a bootable "diskette prepared from the internet"? Am I to put the
program on and run it from an Me Startup disk?

I've read the instructions for using the diagnostic and think I'm OK there.
Looks like this could be the answer to a thorough "ScanDisk" that will
complete.

Sorry I'm so ignorant. Your help is MUCH appreciated.

carol




"Mart" wrote in message
...
Samsung FAQ's/Knowledge Base. - Where Can I Obtain A Free Hard Drive
Diagnostic Utility?


http://erms.samsungusa.com/customer/...?PG_ID=1&AT_ID
=5539&PROD_SUB_ID=26&PROD_ID=-1

HTH and good luck

Mart

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