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Standby mode - how do I get rid of it?
This mode is set up on an old Win98 computer we are trying to clean up. We
thought we had re-set it to not go into Standby, but it's still doing it. Any advice? Thanks in advance. Barb |
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Try this Barb, right Click on the Desktop and chose properties and sellect
Screen Saver and in the same window Click the Settings Button under the Energy saving features of monitor and from there set the Value in the drop down List into Never in the section of System Standby, while you are there check the turn off the monitor and set the right time for it if n't set already. I hope it will help. nass "Barb" wrote: This mode is set up on an old Win98 computer we are trying to clean up. We thought we had re-set it to not go into Standby, but it's still doing it. Any advice? Thanks in advance. Barb |
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Check BIOS for Standby settings.
-- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Barb" wrote in message ... This mode is set up on an old Win98 computer we are trying to clean up. We thought we had re-set it to not go into Standby, but it's still doing it. Any advice? Thanks in advance. Barb |
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions. We have tried the options mentioned
with no luck . . . except for yours, Gary, about the BIOS. I hope this multi-layered cry for help is not "against the rules" of newsgroups. This computer is a Compaq Presario 5050 Intel Celeron 333, with 128MB RAM. The first thing we did was run a full virus scan . . . four Trojan Dialers (?) were found, along with a host of spyware and adware. These were all cleaned or deleted. Scans now come up negative. We are not knowledgeable enough yet to know how to get into the BIOS of a computer that does not show the black and white startup screens . . . only the big red COMPAQ screen, have tried pressing Ctrl, F2, and other possible keys while booting up with no luck. We have run Compaq's "diagnostic tests" and everything came out 100% passed. We are unable to get the modem to work to get online(which was the original problem), and when checking the ports, it shows only COM1 and LPT1, no COM2 where the modem is supposed to be. Is this possibly another BIOS problem? The modem is a Rockwell HCF 56K DAta Fax PCI modem. Have removed, then reinstalled three times. During installation it requests the Win95 (the computer is running Win98 - ??) Installation CD, then says that file "b0bc120.cat" cannot be found on the CD. We downloaded .zip file "Cpq_56k.zip" from modem-drivers.com, which includes that .cat file, however, when trying to install the software, it comes up with "Cannot find file "_setup.dll". We certainly did not expect to come upon a brick wall. Any help you can give is much appreciated and we sincerely thank you. "We" is: Barb and Ray "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Check BIOS for Standby settings. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Barb" wrote in message ... This mode is set up on an old Win98 computer we are trying to clean up. We thought we had re-set it to not go into Standby, but it's still doing it. Any advice? Thanks in advance. Barb |
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The usual hotkey to bring up BIOS in a Compaq of that era is F10.
To be honest, I don't recall the way Compaq handled installation files in that era, though you can bet it wasn't probably like any other. Did this machine originally come with Win98, or is it upgraded from Win95? Perhaps someone else can chime in with more specific knowledge about Compaqs. What I would probably do at this stage are the following steps: 1. Remove the modem card. 2. Restart in Safe Mode--easiest way is to run MSCONFIG, click on the Advanced button, and "Enable Startup Menu." Then restart and when the Startup menu appears, choose Safe Mode. 3. Go into Device Manager and remove *all* ports, the modem, the modem enumerator (I think it includes HCF in it's name,) and the Wave Device for Modem in the Sound section. While you're there, review the entire list of devices and write down any that are duplicated, what they are and how many. 4. Restart and attempt to immediately go into BIOS, using F10. Make sure both COM ports are enabled. 5. Save the BIOS changes, if any, and Exit. This will restart the system. Let it continue, choose Normal Mode at the Startup Menu, let Windows reinstall the devices. Restart if necessary until no more devices are detected and installed. Then shut down, reinsert the Modem, perhaps in a different slot, restart the system and install the drivers. You may still have problems with the drivers installation. We can only hope that someone will drop in with the precise knowledge you need. Would also help to know Make/Model, and whatever basic identifiers you can provide (and if this system came originally installed with Win98, what the CDs look like, etc.) Might be able to locate a manual online. Also wouldn't hurt to try a different modem if one is available. Oh, and try Everest from http://www.lavalys.com/ to more accurately identify your modem chipset, identify what's on your system, etc.. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Barb" wrote in message m... Thanks everyone for your suggestions. We have tried the options mentioned with no luck . . . except for yours, Gary, about the BIOS. I hope this multi-layered cry for help is not "against the rules" of newsgroups. This computer is a Compaq Presario 5050 Intel Celeron 333, with 128MB RAM. The first thing we did was run a full virus scan . . . four Trojan Dialers (?) were found, along with a host of spyware and adware. These were all cleaned or deleted. Scans now come up negative. We are not knowledgeable enough yet to know how to get into the BIOS of a computer that does not show the black and white startup screens . . . only the big red COMPAQ screen, have tried pressing Ctrl, F2, and other possible keys while booting up with no luck. We have run Compaq's "diagnostic tests" and everything came out 100% passed. We are unable to get the modem to work to get online(which was the original problem), and when checking the ports, it shows only COM1 and LPT1, no COM2 where the modem is supposed to be. Is this possibly another BIOS problem? The modem is a Rockwell HCF 56K DAta Fax PCI modem. Have removed, then reinstalled three times. During installation it requests the Win95 (the computer is running Win98 - ??) Installation CD, then says that file "b0bc120.cat" cannot be found on the CD. We downloaded .zip file "Cpq_56k.zip" from modem-drivers.com, which includes that .cat file, however, when trying to install the software, it comes up with "Cannot find file "_setup.dll". We certainly did not expect to come upon a brick wall. Any help you can give is much appreciated and we sincerely thank you. "We" is: Barb and Ray "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Check BIOS for Standby settings. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Barb" wrote in message ... This mode is set up on an old Win98 computer we are trying to clean up. We thought we had re-set it to not go into Standby, but it's still doing it. Any advice? Thanks in advance. Barb |
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Thank you, Gary! Have d/l Everest, will try it today, and will keep watch
for more info in this thread. We have developed (accidentally) a small "computer ministry" by helping the older folks in our church and neighborhood have a more positive experience with their computers. Many of these people were horrified by the thoughts of "computers taking over the world" several years ago. Most of the machines are older also, and we try to upgrade when we can . . . memory, video cards, sound cards, etc., do basic maintenance such as keeping their antivirus, anti-spyware and anti-adware programs updated, and occasionally, installing cable or DSL. Most of what we have learned about our "retirement hobby" in the past ten years has come from these newsgroups. When other seventy-plus retirees are watching soap operas and The Price is Right, we are working on computers. Just seems right. Thanks again for your willingness to share your knowledge. Barb and Ray "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... The usual hotkey to bring up BIOS in a Compaq of that era is F10. To be honest, I don't recall the way Compaq handled installation files in that era, though you can bet it wasn't probably like any other. Did this machine originally come with Win98, or is it upgraded from Win95? Perhaps someone else can chime in with more specific knowledge about Compaqs. What I would probably do at this stage are the following steps: 1. Remove the modem card. 2. Restart in Safe Mode--easiest way is to run MSCONFIG, click on the Advanced button, and "Enable Startup Menu." Then restart and when the Startup menu appears, choose Safe Mode. 3. Go into Device Manager and remove *all* ports, the modem, the modem enumerator (I think it includes HCF in it's name,) and the Wave Device for Modem in the Sound section. While you're there, review the entire list of devices and write down any that are duplicated, what they are and how many. 4. Restart and attempt to immediately go into BIOS, using F10. Make sure both COM ports are enabled. 5. Save the BIOS changes, if any, and Exit. This will restart the system. Let it continue, choose Normal Mode at the Startup Menu, let Windows reinstall the devices. Restart if necessary until no more devices are detected and installed. Then shut down, reinsert the Modem, perhaps in a different slot, restart the system and install the drivers. You may still have problems with the drivers installation. We can only hope that someone will drop in with the precise knowledge you need. Would also help to know Make/Model, and whatever basic identifiers you can provide (and if this system came originally installed with Win98, what the CDs look like, etc.) Might be able to locate a manual online. Also wouldn't hurt to try a different modem if one is available. Oh, and try Everest from http://www.lavalys.com/ to more accurately identify your modem chipset, identify what's on your system, etc.. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Barb" wrote in message m... Thanks everyone for your suggestions. We have tried the options mentioned with no luck . . . except for yours, Gary, about the BIOS. I hope this multi-layered cry for help is not "against the rules" of newsgroups. This computer is a Compaq Presario 5050 Intel Celeron 333, with 128MB RAM. The first thing we did was run a full virus scan . . . four Trojan Dialers (?) were found, along with a host of spyware and adware. These were all cleaned or deleted. Scans now come up negative. We are not knowledgeable enough yet to know how to get into the BIOS of a computer that does not show the black and white startup screens . . . only the big red COMPAQ screen, have tried pressing Ctrl, F2, and other possible keys while booting up with no luck. We have run Compaq's "diagnostic tests" and everything came out 100% passed. We are unable to get the modem to work to get online(which was the original problem), and when checking the ports, it shows only COM1 and LPT1, no COM2 where the modem is supposed to be. Is this possibly another BIOS problem? The modem is a Rockwell HCF 56K DAta Fax PCI modem. Have removed, then reinstalled three times. During installation it requests the Win95 (the computer is running Win98 - ??) Installation CD, then says that file "b0bc120.cat" cannot be found on the CD. We downloaded .zip file "Cpq_56k.zip" from modem-drivers.com, which includes that .cat file, however, when trying to install the software, it comes up with "Cannot find file "_setup.dll". We certainly did not expect to come upon a brick wall. Any help you can give is much appreciated and we sincerely thank you. "We" is: Barb and Ray "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Check BIOS for Standby settings. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Barb" wrote in message ... This mode is set up on an old Win98 computer we are trying to clean up. We thought we had re-set it to not go into Standby, but it's still doing it. Any advice? Thanks in advance. Barb |
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Back again. We did everything outlined in your last message, except
removing the Wave Device for Modem since there was no item in the Sound section named that. We did review the list of devices, and listed the duplicates. When we restarted, the duplicates were gone. Went to BIOS . . . nothing regarding COM ports was visible in any of the screens (very sketchy info), exited and reinserted the modem in a different slot, restarted, and installed all the files for the drivers, we hope. The make/model is Compaq Presario 5050, Intel Celeron 333, with 128MB RAM. We don't know if the computer was originally Win95, then upgraded to Win98. Could be. The modem is a Rockwell HCF 56K Data Fax PCI. Our big problem now is we can't get out of Safe Mode! We have tried everything . . . restarting (half a dozen times or so), going back into MSCONFIG and reversing the checkmark, and checking to see if there is any other place that might have something to do with it. Don't know if the modem would work on Safe Mode, but tried anyway and when trying to connect we still get the error message "Cannot dial". If anyone has a magic hint, tip or trick, we would welcome it . . . right now we are frustrated! Thanks to all. Barb and Ray "Barb" wrote in message m... Thank you, Gary! Have d/l Everest, will try it today, and will keep watch for more info in this thread. We have developed (accidentally) a small "computer ministry" by helping the older folks in our church and neighborhood have a more positive experience with their computers. Many of these people were horrified by the thoughts of "computers taking over the world" several years ago. Most of the machines are older also, and we try to upgrade when we can . . . memory, video cards, sound cards, etc., do basic maintenance such as keeping their antivirus, anti-spyware and anti-adware programs updated, and occasionally, installing cable or DSL. Most of what we have learned about our "retirement hobby" in the past ten years has come from these newsgroups. When other seventy-plus retirees are watching soap operas and The Price is Right, we are working on computers. Just seems right. Thanks again for your willingness to share your knowledge. Barb and Ray "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... The usual hotkey to bring up BIOS in a Compaq of that era is F10. To be honest, I don't recall the way Compaq handled installation files in that era, though you can bet it wasn't probably like any other. Did this machine originally come with Win98, or is it upgraded from Win95? Perhaps someone else can chime in with more specific knowledge about Compaqs. What I would probably do at this stage are the following steps: 1. Remove the modem card. 2. Restart in Safe Mode--easiest way is to run MSCONFIG, click on the Advanced button, and "Enable Startup Menu." Then restart and when the Startup menu appears, choose Safe Mode. 3. Go into Device Manager and remove *all* ports, the modem, the modem enumerator (I think it includes HCF in it's name,) and the Wave Device for Modem in the Sound section. While you're there, review the entire list of devices and write down any that are duplicated, what they are and how many. 4. Restart and attempt to immediately go into BIOS, using F10. Make sure both COM ports are enabled. 5. Save the BIOS changes, if any, and Exit. This will restart the system. Let it continue, choose Normal Mode at the Startup Menu, let Windows reinstall the devices. Restart if necessary until no more devices are detected and installed. Then shut down, reinsert the Modem, perhaps in a different slot, restart the system and install the drivers. You may still have problems with the drivers installation. We can only hope that someone will drop in with the precise knowledge you need. Would also help to know Make/Model, and whatever basic identifiers you can provide (and if this system came originally installed with Win98, what the CDs look like, etc.) Might be able to locate a manual online. Also wouldn't hurt to try a different modem if one is available. Oh, and try Everest from http://www.lavalys.com/ to more accurately identify your modem chipset, identify what's on your system, etc.. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Barb" wrote in message m... Thanks everyone for your suggestions. We have tried the options mentioned with no luck . . . except for yours, Gary, about the BIOS. I hope this multi-layered cry for help is not "against the rules" of newsgroups. This computer is a Compaq Presario 5050 Intel Celeron 333, with 128MB RAM. The first thing we did was run a full virus scan . . . four Trojan Dialers (?) were found, along with a host of spyware and adware. These were all cleaned or deleted. Scans now come up negative. We are not knowledgeable enough yet to know how to get into the BIOS of a computer that does not show the black and white startup screens . . . only the big red COMPAQ screen, have tried pressing Ctrl, F2, and other possible keys while booting up with no luck. We have run Compaq's "diagnostic tests" and everything came out 100% passed. We are unable to get the modem to work to get online(which was the original problem), and when checking the ports, it shows only COM1 and LPT1, no COM2 where the modem is supposed to be. Is this possibly another BIOS problem? The modem is a Rockwell HCF 56K DAta Fax PCI modem. Have removed, then reinstalled three times. During installation it requests the Win95 (the computer is running Win98 - ??) Installation CD, then says that file "b0bc120.cat" cannot be found on the CD. We downloaded .zip file "Cpq_56k.zip" from modem-drivers.com, which includes that .cat file, however, when trying to install the software, it comes up with "Cannot find file "_setup.dll". We certainly did not expect to come upon a brick wall. Any help you can give is much appreciated and we sincerely thank you. "We" is: Barb and Ray "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Check BIOS for Standby settings. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Barb" wrote in message ... This mode is set up on an old Win98 computer we are trying to clean up. We thought we had re-set it to not go into Standby, but it's still doing it. Any advice? Thanks in advance. Barb |
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"Barb" wrote in message
m... Back again. We did everything outlined in your last message, except removing the Wave Device for Modem since there was no item in the Sound section named that. We did review the list of devices, and listed the duplicates. When we restarted, the duplicates were gone. You won't see any duplicates in Device Manager in Normal Mode. Normal Mode DM only shows the drivers that were loaded. Safe Mode DM shows all drivers that are installed. For various reasons, the same device can get installed twice for the same device, but each of the installations will have a slightly different configuration. The problem with this is that many devices are installed "onto" other devices (hard drives are installed "onto" IDE Controllers, Printers are installed "onto" LPT ports, etc. If the wrong parent device drivers and configurations are loaded, then the child device that depends on it may not operate properly. There are some devices that will be duplicated simply because there really are two or more of the same device installed. The idea is to determine which devices are duplicated when they shouldn't be, and then remove *all* copies of thaqt instalaltion, plus any child devices that depend on them, then restart and let Windows reinstall. So, it might help us diagnose the issue if you tell use just which devices are duplicated in Safe Mode. Went to BIOS . . . nothing regarding COM ports was visible in any of the screens (very sketchy info), exited and reinserted the modem in a different slot, restarted, and installed all the files for the drivers, we hope. Using teh make/model information, below, here is teh page that describes BIOS settings. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...07110# N1013D If that link causes problems, try this TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/9o4bg You want to go into the "Advanced" menu, then the "PCI Configuration" sub-menu, and finally, into the I/O Device Configuration sub-menu of "PCI Configuration." I can't be certain, but it looks as if Compaq calls them "Serial Port A" and "Serial Port B" instead of the usual Com1 and COM2. On the other hand, they may actually be referring to the serial connectors, not to COM ports. I'd make sure that both are enabled. The make/model is Compaq Presario 5050, Intel Celeron 333, with 128MB RAM. We don't know if the computer was originally Win95, then upgraded to Win98. Could be. The modem is a Rockwell HCF 56K Data Fax PCI. Considering the processor speed you report, I will assume that the machine came with Windows 98 pre-installed. Compaq issues drivers and other downloads as "SoftPaqs." Here is the download page for the Rockwell HCF modem. Once we get your other issues straightened out, this is what you'll want to use to install the modem. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...wareitem=33681 If that link doesn't work for you, try this TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/bnehv Our big problem now is we can't get out of Safe Mode! We have tried everything . . . restarting (half a dozen times or so), going back into MSCONFIG and reversing the checkmark, and checking to see if there is any other place that might have something to do with it. The checkmark in MSCONFIG only enables or disables the Startup Menu, where you can choose different startup modes. It does not force one mode or the other. Are you saying that when you choose Normal Mode in teh Startup menu, it still forces you into Safe Mode? Safe Mode usually has very clear indicators that you are in Safe Mode. Four little "Safe Mode" messages at the four cornerrs of the screen. And, as previously mentioned, it also shows things in Device Manager that you don't see in Normal Mode. One sure givaway is that in Device Manager, under the System category, you'll see several IRQ Holders. Many of these are normal, and you won't see them in Normal Mode. If you determine that you're actually booting into Normal Mode, but the screen has "Safe Mode resolution", then the problem is that you need to readjust Resoplution settings in Display Settings. If you really are being forced into Safe Mode, regardless of having chosen Normal Mode, do you get any special messages, like, "Warning: Windows did not finish loading on the previous attempt. Choose Safe mode, to start Windows with a minimal set of drivers."? If so, see he "Windows 98 or Windows 95 Defaults to Safe Mode Even After Successful Start" http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;143283 If not, try this article: "The Computer Always Starts in Safe Mode" http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;306615 Other articles of interest: ""'Show Small Icons in Start Menu' Setting Changes If You Start Your Computer in Safe Mode http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267499 Don't know if the modem would work on Safe Mode, but tried anyway and when trying to connect we still get the error message "Cannot dial". No, the modem won't work in Safe Mode. If anyone has a magic hint, tip or trick, we would welcome it . . . right now we are frustrated! OK, I've given you some things to work with. See how it goes, and be sure to get back to us. Even if everything gets fixed and you don't need us anymore, it's nice to get feedback regarding what solutions worked. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm |
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Regarding devices . . . your explanation of configuration was complicated
for us to understand, but hopefully, that's OK. We can tell you which devices are duplicated in Safe Mode . . . as follows: Monitors: Plug & Play Monitor - 2 Sound, Video, etc: Gameport Joystick - 2 MS Streaming Tee/Sink-to-sink Converter - 2 System Devices: Direct memory access controller - 3 IRQ Holder for PCI Steering - 4 Motherboard Resources - 6 Numeric data processor - 3 PCI Bus - 3 Programmable Interrupt controller - 3 System board extension for PNP BIOS - 3 System CMOS/realtime clock - 3 System speaker - 3 System timer - 3 Regarding BIOS . . . the BIOS settings outlined at the HP/Compaq website simulates nothing like what is on this Compaq computer. Whereas the website is quite detailed (like most BIOS/CMOS setups we have seen), this one is very skimpy. Don't see a thing about Ports, Com or Serial. The info can be copied in a message if you wish. Is it possible this needs a BIOS Update or Upgrade? We have never had to do one. Regarding Safe Mode . . . you were right, it was determined that the resolution was the problem, although we had tried to change it several times within Safe Mode and it kept popping back to 16 color. Don't know what that was all about, but after several hours, we now have a screen that looks normal. Regarding Modem . . . still not working, after this week-end (babysitting), we will be able to get this machine going. We are learning more each day. Thank you again, so very much for your kindness, knowledge, and especially patience. Barb and Ray "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... "Barb" wrote in message m... Back again. We did everything outlined in your last message, except removing the Wave Device for Modem since there was no item in the Sound section named that. We did review the list of devices, and listed the duplicates. When we restarted, the duplicates were gone. You won't see any duplicates in Device Manager in Normal Mode. Normal Mode DM only shows the drivers that were loaded. Safe Mode DM shows all drivers that are installed. For various reasons, the same device can get installed twice for the same device, but each of the installations will have a slightly different configuration. The problem with this is that many devices are installed "onto" other devices (hard drives are installed "onto" IDE Controllers, Printers are installed "onto" LPT ports, etc. If the wrong parent device drivers and configurations are loaded, then the child device that depends on it may not operate properly. There are some devices that will be duplicated simply because there really are two or more of the same device installed. The idea is to determine which devices are duplicated when they shouldn't be, and then remove *all* copies of thaqt instalaltion, plus any child devices that depend on them, then restart and let Windows reinstall. So, it might help us diagnose the issue if you tell use just which devices are duplicated in Safe Mode. Went to BIOS . . . nothing regarding COM ports was visible in any of the screens (very sketchy info), exited and reinserted the modem in a different slot, restarted, and installed all the files for the drivers, we hope. Using teh make/model information, below, here is teh page that describes BIOS settings. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...07110# N1013D If that link causes problems, try this TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/9o4bg You want to go into the "Advanced" menu, then the "PCI Configuration" sub-menu, and finally, into the I/O Device Configuration sub-menu of "PCI Configuration." I can't be certain, but it looks as if Compaq calls them "Serial Port A" and "Serial Port B" instead of the usual Com1 and COM2. On the other hand, they may actually be referring to the serial connectors, not to COM ports. I'd make sure that both are enabled. The make/model is Compaq Presario 5050, Intel Celeron 333, with 128MB RAM. We don't know if the computer was originally Win95, then upgraded to Win98. Could be. The modem is a Rockwell HCF 56K Data Fax PCI. Considering the processor speed you report, I will assume that the machine came with Windows 98 pre-installed. Compaq issues drivers and other downloads as "SoftPaqs." Here is the download page for the Rockwell HCF modem. Once we get your other issues straightened out, this is what you'll want to use to install the modem. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...wareitem=33681 If that link doesn't work for you, try this TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/bnehv Our big problem now is we can't get out of Safe Mode! We have tried everything . . . restarting (half a dozen times or so), going back into MSCONFIG and reversing the checkmark, and checking to see if there is any other place that might have something to do with it. The checkmark in MSCONFIG only enables or disables the Startup Menu, where you can choose different startup modes. It does not force one mode or the other. Are you saying that when you choose Normal Mode in teh Startup menu, it still forces you into Safe Mode? Safe Mode usually has very clear indicators that you are in Safe Mode. Four little "Safe Mode" messages at the four cornerrs of the screen. And, as previously mentioned, it also shows things in Device Manager that you don't see in Normal Mode. One sure givaway is that in Device Manager, under the System category, you'll see several IRQ Holders. Many of these are normal, and you won't see them in Normal Mode. If you determine that you're actually booting into Normal Mode, but the screen has "Safe Mode resolution", then the problem is that you need to readjust Resoplution settings in Display Settings. If you really are being forced into Safe Mode, regardless of having chosen Normal Mode, do you get any special messages, like, "Warning: Windows did not finish loading on the previous attempt. Choose Safe mode, to start Windows with a minimal set of drivers."? If so, see he "Windows 98 or Windows 95 Defaults to Safe Mode Even After Successful Start" http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;143283 If not, try this article: "The Computer Always Starts in Safe Mode" http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;306615 Other articles of interest: ""'Show Small Icons in Start Menu' Setting Changes If You Start Your Computer in Safe Mode http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267499 Don't know if the modem would work on Safe Mode, but tried anyway and when trying to connect we still get the error message "Cannot dial". No, the modem won't work in Safe Mode. If anyone has a magic hint, tip or trick, we would welcome it . . . right now we are frustrated! OK, I've given you some things to work with. See how it goes, and be sure to get back to us. Even if everything gets fixed and you don't need us anymore, it's nice to get feedback regarding what solutions worked. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm |
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Barb & Ray,
From the info listed below, it's obvious that what's called the "ENUM" portions of the Registry, the part that tells Windows what drivers to load, is hopelessly messed up. While a couple of those items are normally (or at least sometimes) properly duplicated, most of them aren't. All of those items with two instances should only have one, and all of those items with three instances should only have one (the IRQ Holders look about right, but there should only be two "Motherboard Resources, not six.) Add to this that most of your system is predicated on those devices, and you arrive at an inescapable conclusion: The Hardware Profile needs to be rebuilt from scratch. It's not usually difficult, but it can be scary. If you and your "patient's" owner are game, it's good knowledge to gain, and I'm willing to walk you through it. But, first, about that BIOS. Yes, it's very possible that it needs updating. But updating the BIOS scares any decent computer tech more than just about any other procedure. You have to do it right, and if the procedure doesn't finish, say because of a power failure or almost any other hardware problem, you end up with an expensive pile of trash--until you replace the BIOS chip. With Compaq, at least the older models, it's even weirder, because they don't necessarily do BIOS the same way as everyone else. So, lets leave that one alone for the nonce...with one question: Have there recently been any problems with the clock on this machine? Does it lose the time or date after it's been shut down and/or unplugged? If so, the BIOS battery is suspect. Upon further review, I'd suggest we first nail down exactly which model this machine is. I know it's a Presario 5050, but according to the following page, that may not be sufficiently precise for our purposes. Please study the following page and see if you can't nail it down for us. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/g...name=c00004461 (tinyURL = http://tinyurl.com/ao8f7) Additionally, in preparation for rebuilding the Hardware Profile, we'll want to be sure that you're familiar with backing up the Registry and restoring a backup using SCANREG /RESTORE, just in case there are unforeseen complications. Also, if you can discover the precise model information needed, I suggest you download everything you can find in the way of SoftPaqs for it onto a computer that has a CD burner, then make a CD you can take to the Compaq. Because I assume you have to travel at least a bit between the Compaq and your own machine(s), I'm trying to pack as much as I can into each post. On the other hand, I don't want to overwhelm you, and some steps are necessarily predicated on feedback from you after other steps have been taken. Oh. And the reason the video started acting up the way it did is most likely due to the problems in Device Manager, and the solution is to reinstall the video drivers--but that may as well wait, since the rest of the cure requires that they be reinstalled, anyway. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Barb" wrote in message ... Regarding devices . . . your explanation of configuration was complicated for us to understand, but hopefully, that's OK. We can tell you which devices are duplicated in Safe Mode . . . as follows: Monitors: Plug & Play Monitor - 2 Sound, Video, etc: Gameport Joystick - 2 MS Streaming Tee/Sink-to-sink Converter - 2 System Devices: Direct memory access controller - 3 IRQ Holder for PCI Steering - 4 Motherboard Resources - 6 Numeric data processor - 3 PCI Bus - 3 Programmable Interrupt controller - 3 System board extension for PNP BIOS - 3 System CMOS/realtime clock - 3 System speaker - 3 System timer - 3 Regarding BIOS . . . the BIOS settings outlined at the HP/Compaq website simulates nothing like what is on this Compaq computer. Whereas the website is quite detailed (like most BIOS/CMOS setups we have seen), this one is very skimpy. Don't see a thing about Ports, Com or Serial. The info can be copied in a message if you wish. Is it possible this needs a BIOS Update or Upgrade? We have never had to do one. Regarding Safe Mode . . . you were right, it was determined that the resolution was the problem, although we had tried to change it several times within Safe Mode and it kept popping back to 16 color. Don't know what that was all about, but after several hours, we now have a screen that looks normal. Regarding Modem . . . still not working, after this week-end (babysitting), we will be able to get this machine going. We are learning more each day. Thank you again, so very much for your kindness, knowledge, and especially patience. Barb and Ray |
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