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Reinstalling Win 98
I have done this before without a hitch. This time I made the mistake of
uninstalling software that came with Windows, Star Office 5.0. When I insert the eMachine cd then do 1. Restore format HDD it seems to work then a very brief error message "can't crate extraction dir", then continual error message, "can't create C:/OFFICE51" and "unable to process". Then the screen says image restores then reboots and asks for Restore setup. I have 5 books from the library but they seem to be for WIN 95. I can view BIOS, but dos won't go to C from A. Thanks in advance for your brillancy! -- Do what you enjoy for a living! |
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Reinstalling Win 98
This was a breeze last time I did this, after I installed (2) 128MB SDRAM
Memory. This is an old computer I am using for desktop publishing. It is my wish to get as much off the hard drive as I can so I can have as much workspace as possible. I will be loading Pagemaker and Photoshop on again when finished restoring and eventually get a newer computer. I have nothing on the hd I need at this time. Ok, my two main problems appear to be 1. "can't create extraction directory" and 2. "invalid drive specification". The options for a RESTORE of my hard drive are 1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD 2. Restore WIN 98 will NOT format HDD 3. Boot to DOS Prompt from CDROM F5=safe mode,Shift+F5=command prompt,Shift+F8=step by step confirmation. I picked #1 and step by step this time as to read the errors. Here are where the errors occurred: a:\unzip - od c:\windows\system R:\winsys.img [Enter=Y,Esc=N] Y check dir: can't create extraction directory:c:\windows\system a:\unzip - od c:\windows\R:\winother.img[]Y check dir: can't create extraction directory:c:\windows copy a:\winstart.bat c:\windows\winstart.bat[]Y Invalid Drive Specification copy a:\lfnbk.exe c:windows\lfnbk.exe[]Y Invalid Drive Specification cls[]Y cd\[]Y cls[]Y ECHO[]Y ECHO WINDOWS 98 RESTORE COMPLETE[]Y WIN98 RESTORE COMPLETE ECHO - - - - - - - - []Y ---------- ECHO THE HARD DRIVE IMAGE HAS BEEN RESTORED[]Y THDIHBR ECHO PRESS ANY KEY THE SYSTEM WILL BE REBOOT[]Y PAKTSWBR ECHO **STORE THE CDROM IN A SAFE LOCATION!**[]Y STCIASL ECHO[]Y a:\Ejected.exe r:[]Y Press any key to reboot your computer. There you have it the two errors. I abbreviated some of the echo repeats. Obviously when I press any key it wants to boot from the cd,error 200,204 insert cd. I looked around the Bios and here's what it says: SETUP-Primary hd is ATAPI CDROM. LBA on,BLOCK on, 32bit on,PIO auto. The Secondary is the same. Primary and Secondary Slave are not installed. Floppy A(broken, I had an external (usb) floppy driver as well as a flash drive (usb) I was working off of). Floppy B not installed. ADVANCED-Quick Boot disabled, 1st Boot Device:1st IDE-HDD,2nd BD:ATAPI CDROM, 3rd:2nd IDE-HDD. There you have it. I hope this is a clear picture of my problem as I know your time is valuable. Much gratitude. -- "grafxfriday" wrote: I have done this before without a hitch. This time I made the mistake of uninstalling software that came with Windows, Star Office 5.0. When I insert the eMachine cd then do 1. Restore format HDD it seems to work then a very brief error message "can't crate extraction dir", then continual error message, "can't create C:/OFFICE51" and "unable to process". Then the screen says image restores then reboots and asks for Restore setup. I have 5 books from the library but they seem to be for WIN 95. I can view BIOS, but dos won't go to C from A. Thanks in advance for your brillancy! -- Do what you enjoy for a living! |
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:27:01 -0700, grafxfriday
wrote: (snip0 I looked around the Bios and here's what it says: SETUP-Primary hd is ATAPI CDROM. LBA on,BLOCK on, 32bit on,PIO auto. The Secondary is the same. Primary and Secondary Slave are not installed. If I am reading that correctly, your BIOS isn't seeing any HDD's. |
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Reinstalling Win 98
As Rebel says, your BIOS isn't seeing any HDs,so for all practical purposes,
there aren't any. That's why the copy operations failed, that's why you can't see C:\ from A:\.. You need to check all drives, their jumpers and connections, and then check the BIOS to see if there isn't some Auto-detection routine. Otherwise, reset the CMOS. And since that's such an old machine, consider the wisdom of replacing the battery while you're at it (the CMOS battery, a quarter-sized watch-style battery.) You don't mention make or model of your machine, so there's no way to help you in any more detail. PS -- Star Office 5 didn't come with Windows. It came with the computer. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "grafxfriday" wrote in message ... This was a breeze last time I did this, after I installed (2) 128MB SDRAM Memory. This is an old computer I am using for desktop publishing. It is my wish to get as much off the hard drive as I can so I can have as much workspace as possible. I will be loading Pagemaker and Photoshop on again when finished restoring and eventually get a newer computer. I have nothing on the hd I need at this time. Ok, my two main problems appear to be 1. "can't create extraction directory" and 2. "invalid drive specification". The options for a RESTORE of my hard drive are 1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD 2. Restore WIN 98 will NOT format HDD 3. Boot to DOS Prompt from CDROM F5=safe mode,Shift+F5=command prompt,Shift+F8=step by step confirmation. I picked #1 and step by step this time as to read the errors. Here are where the errors occurred: a:\unzip - od c:\windows\system R:\winsys.img [Enter=Y,Esc=N] Y check dir: can't create extraction directory:c:\windows\system a:\unzip - od c:\windows\R:\winother.img[]Y check dir: can't create extraction directory:c:\windows copy a:\winstart.bat c:\windows\winstart.bat[]Y Invalid Drive Specification copy a:\lfnbk.exe c:windows\lfnbk.exe[]Y Invalid Drive Specification cls[]Y cd\[]Y cls[]Y ECHO[]Y ECHO WINDOWS 98 RESTORE COMPLETE[]Y WIN98 RESTORE COMPLETE ECHO - - - - - - - - []Y ---------- ECHO THE HARD DRIVE IMAGE HAS BEEN RESTORED[]Y THDIHBR ECHO PRESS ANY KEY THE SYSTEM WILL BE REBOOT[]Y PAKTSWBR ECHO **STORE THE CDROM IN A SAFE LOCATION!**[]Y STCIASL ECHO[]Y a:\Ejected.exe r:[]Y Press any key to reboot your computer. There you have it the two errors. I abbreviated some of the echo repeats. Obviously when I press any key it wants to boot from the cd,error 200,204 insert cd. I looked around the Bios and here's what it says: SETUP-Primary hd is ATAPI CDROM. LBA on,BLOCK on, 32bit on,PIO auto. The Secondary is the same. Primary and Secondary Slave are not installed. Floppy A(broken, I had an external (usb) floppy driver as well as a flash drive (usb) I was working off of). Floppy B not installed. ADVANCED-Quick Boot disabled, 1st Boot Device:1st IDE-HDD,2nd BD:ATAPI CDROM, 3rd:2nd IDE-HDD. There you have it. I hope this is a clear picture of my problem as I know your time is valuable. Much gratitude. -- "grafxfriday" wrote: I have done this before without a hitch. This time I made the mistake of uninstalling software that came with Windows, Star Office 5.0. When I insert the eMachine cd then do 1. Restore format HDD it seems to work then a very brief error message "can't crate extraction dir", then continual error message, "can't create C:/OFFICE51" and "unable to process". Then the screen says image restores then reboots and asks for Restore setup. I have 5 books from the library but they seem to be for WIN 95. I can view BIOS, but dos won't go to C from A. Thanks in advance for your brillancy! -- Do what you enjoy for a living! |
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Thanks Rebel and Gary. I appreciate your help.
First Info then a couple questions.. Info Part I History I have a single CD that says RESTORE CD(BOOTABLE CD)eMACHINES eTOWER433i 1998-99 Error Messages: 200:BOOT FAILURE 204:REBOOT AND SELECT PROPER BOOT DEVICE OR INSERT BOOT MEDIA IN SELECTED BOOT DEVICE. Initially the first few times I chose "1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD" without step by step confirmation (this last time around I could see the errors). I hope restarting several times then turning the computer off hasn't caused more damage. Info Part II New Additionally, as I restarted the computer, the screen with basic info came up. I noticed 2 things; 1. Secondary Master ATAPI CDROM. Perhaps this is the reason the hard drive is not "C". I am tempted to change the BIOS settings to fix my drive error(it seems obvious, primary=c) but I am not positive of the settings. 2. PCI Onboard USB Controller, IRQ10 PCI Onboard Multimedia Device IRQ10. (Some of the PCI Devices have no IRQ) Perhaps these two devices shouldn't use the same IRQ number. Questions /Summary 1. Auto-detection routine? How can I tell if my old computer has this? 2. I will read up on how to find and configure CMOS. I do have dos commands and 5 books from the library(mostly for WIN 95) but actual configurations are hard to come by. |
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Reinstalling Win 98
"grafxfriday" wrote in message
... Thanks Rebel and Gary. I appreciate your help. First Info then a couple questions.. Info Part I History I have a single CD that says RESTORE CD(BOOTABLE CD)eMACHINES eTOWER433i 1998-99 Does it have a manual on it? Error Messages: 200:BOOT FAILURE 204:REBOOT AND SELECT PROPER BOOT DEVICE OR INSERT BOOT MEDIA IN SELECTED BOOT DEVICE. Typical error. Means that no bootable device can be found, which makes sense because your hard drives aren't being detected by BIOS. It's very simple, really. Initially the first few times I chose "1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD" without step by step confirmation (this last time around I could see the errors). I hope restarting several times then turning the computer off hasn't caused more damage. Info Part II New Additionally, as I restarted the computer, the screen with basic info came up. I noticed 2 things; 1. Secondary Master ATAPI CDROM. Perhaps this is the reason the hard drive is not "C". I am tempted to change the BIOS settings to fix my drive error(it seems obvious, primary=c) but I am not positive of the settings. It makes all the sense in the world that the Secondary Master is your CD-ROM. What doesn't make sense is that your Primary Master is a CD-ROM or other ATAPI device, instead of a hard drive. 2. PCI Onboard USB Controller, IRQ10 PCI Onboard Multimedia Device IRQ10. (Some of the PCI Devices have no IRQ) Perhaps these two devices shouldn't use the same IRQ number. No big deal. There's this thing called IRQ Sharing. Windows uses it a lot with PCI devices. And, as noted, it's definitely not the problem. Questions /Summary 1. Auto-detection routine? How can I tell if my old computer has this? If there is one, it will either have some way to initiate it in BIOS, or resetting CMOS may be the way. Or you may have to look up the numbers for the drive and input them manually. Gotta know the exact make/model/version/whatever of the HD. 2. I will read up on how to find and configure CMOS. I do have dos commands and 5 books from the library(mostly for WIN 95) but actual configurations are hard to come by. DOS won't help you, though Franc Zabkar may be able to. He's a wizard at finding BIOS files and ripping into them, often finding hidden functions. But you mostly gotta figure on what I described, above. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com |
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:54:00 -0700, grafxfriday
wrote: Thanks Rebel and Gary. I appreciate your help. First Info then a couple questions.. Info Part I History I have a single CD that says RESTORE CD(BOOTABLE CD)eMACHINES eTOWER433i 1998-99 Error Messages: 200:BOOT FAILURE 204:REBOOT AND SELECT PROPER BOOT DEVICE OR INSERT BOOT MEDIA IN SELECTED BOOT DEVICE. Initially the first few times I chose "1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD" without step by step confirmation (this last time around I could see the errors). I hope restarting several times then turning the computer off hasn't caused more damage. Info Part II New Additionally, as I restarted the computer, the screen with basic info came up. I noticed 2 things; 1. Secondary Master ATAPI CDROM. Perhaps this is the reason the hard drive is not "C". I am tempted to change the BIOS settings to fix my drive error(it seems obvious, primary=c) but I am not positive of the settings. 2. PCI Onboard USB Controller, IRQ10 PCI Onboard Multimedia Device IRQ10. (Some of the PCI Devices have no IRQ) Perhaps these two devices shouldn't use the same IRQ number. I don't believe anything above adds much to what (little) we already know. Questions /Summary 1. Auto-detection routine? How can I tell if my old computer has this? In the BIOS, on the page where the drives are listed, there will be a field with selections which will include "AUTO" for type/size/? unless it doesn't have it. But from the above I am presuming a 433 MHz machine, which is waaay after autodetect became the standard. 2. I will read up on how to find and configure CMOS. I do have dos commands and 5 books from the library(mostly for WIN 95) but actual configurations are hard to come by. Enter the BIOS and step through the settable fields. Basic enough - you can always back out without saving any changes, so go and explore. But there IS a reason why your system isn't showing your HDD(s) - we need to find it. It may be as Ben suggested - physical - or it may be somewhere in the BIOS settings. |
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"grafxfriday" wrote in message
... Thanks Rebel and Gary. I appreciate your help. First Info then a couple questions.. Info Part I History I have a single CD that says RESTORE CD(BOOTABLE CD)eMACHINES eTOWER433i 1998-99 Does it have a manual on it? Error Messages: 200:BOOT FAILURE 204:REBOOT AND SELECT PROPER BOOT DEVICE OR INSERT BOOT MEDIA IN SELECTED BOOT DEVICE. Typical error. Means that no bootable device can be found, which makes sense because your hard drives aren't being detected by BIOS. It's very simple, really. Initially the first few times I chose "1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD" without step by step confirmation (this last time around I could see the errors). I hope restarting several times then turning the computer off hasn't caused more damage. Info Part II New Additionally, as I restarted the computer, the screen with basic info came up. I noticed 2 things; 1. Secondary Master ATAPI CDROM. Perhaps this is the reason the hard drive is not "C". I am tempted to change the BIOS settings to fix my drive error(it seems obvious, primary=c) but I am not positive of the settings. It makes all the sense in the world that the Secondary Master is your CD-ROM. What doesn't make sense is that your Primary Master is a CD-ROM or other ATAPI device, instead of a hard drive. 2. PCI Onboard USB Controller, IRQ10 PCI Onboard Multimedia Device IRQ10. (Some of the PCI Devices have no IRQ) Perhaps these two devices shouldn't use the same IRQ number. No big deal. There's this thing called IRQ Sharing. Windows uses it a lot with PCI devices. And, as noted, it's definitely not the problem. Questions /Summary 1. Auto-detection routine? How can I tell if my old computer has this? If there is one, it will either have some way to initiate it in BIOS, or resetting CMOS may be the way. Or you may have to look up the numbers for the drive and input them manually. Gotta know the exact make/model/version/whatever of the HD. 2. I will read up on how to find and configure CMOS. I do have dos commands and 5 books from the library(mostly for WIN 95) but actual configurations are hard to come by. DOS won't help you, though Franc Zabkar may be able to. He's a wizard at finding BIOS files and ripping into them, often finding hidden functions. But you mostly gotta figure on what I described, above. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com |
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:54:00 -0700, grafxfriday
wrote: Thanks Rebel and Gary. I appreciate your help. First Info then a couple questions.. Info Part I History I have a single CD that says RESTORE CD(BOOTABLE CD)eMACHINES eTOWER433i 1998-99 Error Messages: 200:BOOT FAILURE 204:REBOOT AND SELECT PROPER BOOT DEVICE OR INSERT BOOT MEDIA IN SELECTED BOOT DEVICE. Initially the first few times I chose "1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD" without step by step confirmation (this last time around I could see the errors). I hope restarting several times then turning the computer off hasn't caused more damage. Info Part II New Additionally, as I restarted the computer, the screen with basic info came up. I noticed 2 things; 1. Secondary Master ATAPI CDROM. Perhaps this is the reason the hard drive is not "C". I am tempted to change the BIOS settings to fix my drive error(it seems obvious, primary=c) but I am not positive of the settings. 2. PCI Onboard USB Controller, IRQ10 PCI Onboard Multimedia Device IRQ10. (Some of the PCI Devices have no IRQ) Perhaps these two devices shouldn't use the same IRQ number. I don't believe anything above adds much to what (little) we already know. Questions /Summary 1. Auto-detection routine? How can I tell if my old computer has this? In the BIOS, on the page where the drives are listed, there will be a field with selections which will include "AUTO" for type/size/? unless it doesn't have it. But from the above I am presuming a 433 MHz machine, which is waaay after autodetect became the standard. 2. I will read up on how to find and configure CMOS. I do have dos commands and 5 books from the library(mostly for WIN 95) but actual configurations are hard to come by. Enter the BIOS and step through the settable fields. Basic enough - you can always back out without saving any changes, so go and explore. But there IS a reason why your system isn't showing your HDD(s) - we need to find it. It may be as Ben suggested - physical - or it may be somewhere in the BIOS settings. |
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Thanks Rebel and Gary. I appreciate your help.
First Info then a couple questions.. Info Part I History I have a single CD that says RESTORE CD(BOOTABLE CD)eMACHINES eTOWER433i 1998-99 Error Messages: 200:BOOT FAILURE 204:REBOOT AND SELECT PROPER BOOT DEVICE OR INSERT BOOT MEDIA IN SELECTED BOOT DEVICE. Initially the first few times I chose "1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD" without step by step confirmation (this last time around I could see the errors). I hope restarting several times then turning the computer off hasn't caused more damage. Info Part II New Additionally, as I restarted the computer, the screen with basic info came up. I noticed 2 things; 1. Secondary Master ATAPI CDROM. Perhaps this is the reason the hard drive is not "C". I am tempted to change the BIOS settings to fix my drive error(it seems obvious, primary=c) but I am not positive of the settings. 2. PCI Onboard USB Controller, IRQ10 PCI Onboard Multimedia Device IRQ10. (Some of the PCI Devices have no IRQ) Perhaps these two devices shouldn't use the same IRQ number. Questions /Summary 1. Auto-detection routine? How can I tell if my old computer has this? 2. I will read up on how to find and configure CMOS. I do have dos commands and 5 books from the library(mostly for WIN 95) but actual configurations are hard to come by. |
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