APM

I know this is not the right place, but where can I go if the 98 Power
Management section is perpetual out of service.
My question is I need to press the buttom for abt 10 sec before the power is
off, where can I adjust it to shut down quicker. I cannot find in the BIO'S
(AMI) power management. Appreciate your response, thanks

It's 4 seconds. You should only shut down by holding the power button
for 4 seconds in an emergency. Before that, try "Ctrl-Alt-Del, Shut Down
button", which still isn't optimal.

Is your machine crashing/freezing? Describe it in more detail.


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Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
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"Harris" wrote in message
...
| I know this is not the right place, but where can I go if the 98 Power
| Management section is perpetual out of service.
| My question is I need to press the buttom for abt 10 sec before the
power is
| off, where can I adjust it to shut down quicker. I cannot find in the
BIO'S
| (AMI) power management. Appreciate your response, thanks

what bios software you have ? or what is your motherboard model ?


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If there is no Power Management in the BIOS, is there any mention of
ACPI? That should be enabled. Also, in whatever time-out settings you
have in BIOS, ACPI or APM should be enabled, but all timers should be
disabled. This lets Windows handle it.

Next, you should check in Device Manager for APM or ACPI devices, and if
there are any conflicts or if it is disabled. And, perhaps, you will
want to go into Safe Mode to check Device Manager there. Find APM or
ACPI devices, if any, then remove them, then restart.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Harris" wrote in message
...
I know this is not the right place, but where can I go if the 98 Power
Management section is perpetual out of service.
My question is I need to press the buttom for abt 10 sec before the
power is
off, where can I adjust it to shut down quicker. I cannot find in the
BIO'S
(AMI) power management. Appreciate your response, thanks

M741LMRT mobo/AMIBIOS simple setup utility v1.2 and under the PMSetup
Power Management/APM ........ "Disabled" (but if I press '+', it gives 3
options APM, ACPI, APM/APCI.

Under 'Disabled' option - both Standby Time out and Suspend Time out were
'grey'
while KB Power On/Lan card/Ring On/ RTC Alarm - all Disabled

Under APM option - the grey portion becomes 'Disabled', so all the functions
are disable.

Similarly under ACPI option, all are 'Disabled'
Also under APM/ACPI option - all are 'Disabled'

Have to correct myself, the time taken to shut down is about 4 sec.
At start up, I also get this message "The last time, your pc went on
standby, it stop responding. Would you like to prevent going standby in the
Advance Power Management" It give you YES/NO option which I press 'YES'
I guess, I cant have the automatic shut down or soft switch/power as they
call it. Should I change the "Disabled' to "APM'? I appreciate everybody's
response. Thanks



"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

If there is no Power Management in the BIOS, is there any mention of
ACPI? That should be enabled. Also, in whatever time-out settings you
have in BIOS, ACPI or APM should be enabled, but all timers should be
disabled. This lets Windows handle it.

Next, you should check in Device Manager for APM or ACPI devices, and if
there are any conflicts or if it is disabled. And, perhaps, you will
want to go into Safe Mode to check Device Manager there. Find APM or
ACPI devices, if any, then remove them, then restart.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Harris" wrote in message
...
I know this is not the right place, but where can I go if the 98 Power
Management section is perpetual out of service.
My question is I need to press the buttom for abt 10 sec before the
power is
off, where can I adjust it to shut down quicker. I cannot find in the
BIO'S
(AMI) power management. Appreciate your response, thanks

You are welcome. All I really have is this bundle of articles...

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188134 Restore Missing Standby

It may have removed itself due to two failures in a row. Now, perhaps do
not go absolutely nuts inside Device Manager. It can be quite a shock to
see Windows continually reboot, should you remove too many devices at
once. Also, there are those who passionately say, Standby is not worth
the trouble it is to recover.

http://search.support.microsoft.com/...SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB
Search "Your computer cannot go on standby"; Windows 98; Exact Match;
Full Text.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...46&Product=w98
Err Msg: Your Computer Cannot Go on Standby Because a Device...
(188246) - When your attempt to put Windows 98 or Windows Millennium
Edition (Me) in Standby mode, you may receive the following error
message: Your computer cannot go on standby because a device driver or
program won't allow it. Close all programs and try...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...28&Product=w98
Computer May Be Unable to Start Standby Mode
(232728) - When your computer attempts to start Standby mode, you may
receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on standby
because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all open
programs, and then try again.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...02&Product=w98
Cannot Use Standby Mode with USB Epson Stylus 740 Printer
(232902) - When you attempt to place your computer in Standby mode, you
may receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on
standby because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all
open programs, and then try again. If you click OK,...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...42&Product=w98
Error Message Disables Power Management Events
(232942) - When you receive the error message "Your computer cannot go
into standby," any of the following symptoms may occur:


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There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
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"Harris" wrote in message
...
| M741LMRT mobo/AMIBIOS simple setup utility v1.2 and under the PMSetup
| Power Management/APM ........ "Disabled" (but if I press '+', it
gives 3
| options APM, ACPI, APM/APCI.
|
| Under 'Disabled' option - both Standby Time out and Suspend Time out
were
| 'grey'
| while KB Power On/Lan card/Ring On/ RTC Alarm - all Disabled
|
| Under APM option - the grey portion becomes 'Disabled', so all the
functions
| are disable.
|
| Similarly under ACPI option, all are 'Disabled'
| Also under APM/ACPI option - all are 'Disabled'
|
| Have to correct myself, the time taken to shut down is about 4 sec.
| At start up, I also get this message "The last time, your pc went on
| standby, it stop responding. Would you like to prevent going standby
in the
| Advance Power Management" It give you YES/NO option which I press
'YES'
| I guess, I cant have the automatic shut down or soft switch/power as
they
| call it. Should I change the "Disabled' to "APM'? I appreciate
everybody's
| response. Thanks
|
|
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|
| If there is no Power Management in the BIOS, is there any mention of
| ACPI? That should be enabled. Also, in whatever time-out settings
you
| have in BIOS, ACPI or APM should be enabled, but all timers should
be
| disabled. This lets Windows handle it.
|
| Next, you should check in Device Manager for APM or ACPI devices,
and if
| there are any conflicts or if it is disabled. And, perhaps, you will
| want to go into Safe Mode to check Device Manager there. Find APM or
| ACPI devices, if any, then remove them, then restart.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
|
| "Harris" wrote in message
| ...
| I know this is not the right place, but where can I go if the 98
Power
| Management section is perpetual out of service.
| My question is I need to press the buttom for abt 10 sec before
the
| power is
| off, where can I adjust it to shut down quicker. I cannot find in
the
| BIO'S
| (AMI) power management. Appreciate your response, thanks
|
|

Not sure I comprehend your description, but leave ACPI, at least,
enabled. However, you *do* want to disable any power off or suspend or
standby timers listed there once ACPI is enabled. As for "wake" events,
that's up to you.

With those settings, your machine should shut down in the manner you
expect, and you should have full control from the Power Management
applet in Display Settings in Windows. I suggest you *do_not* enable
Standby. It is often problematic, and seems to have been so in the past
for you. Most people don't even consider power management of the hard
disk to be worth while, and setting a timer for suspending the monitor
is up to you. I set my monitor to go into Suspend after 5 minutes, and I
don't use a screensaver. However, I spend most of my time in front of
this machine, and so it seldom suspends the monitor except when I leave
the house, take a meal break, or go to bed. If you typically use the
computer sporadically throughout the day, then you might be better
served by a screensaver set to kick in after a few minutes and suspend
after 20 minutes or more (takes longer to awake from a Suspend, whereas
awakening from Screensaver is instantaneous. Password-protecting the
screensaver, and using a hot-key to engage it is also useful in public
situations.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Harris" wrote in message
...
M741LMRT mobo/AMIBIOS simple setup utility v1.2 and under the PMSetup
Power Management/APM ........ "Disabled" (but if I press '+', it
gives 3
options APM, ACPI, APM/APCI.

Under 'Disabled' option - both Standby Time out and Suspend Time out
were
'grey'
while KB Power On/Lan card/Ring On/ RTC Alarm - all Disabled

Under APM option - the grey portion becomes 'Disabled', so all the
functions
are disable.

Similarly under ACPI option, all are 'Disabled'
Also under APM/ACPI option - all are 'Disabled'

Have to correct myself, the time taken to shut down is about 4 sec.
At start up, I also get this message "The last time, your pc went on
standby, it stop responding. Would you like to prevent going standby
in the
Advance Power Management" It give you YES/NO option which I press
'YES'
I guess, I cant have the automatic shut down or soft switch/power as
they
call it. Should I change the "Disabled' to "APM'? I appreciate
everybody's
response. Thanks



"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

If there is no Power Management in the BIOS, is there any mention of
ACPI? That should be enabled. Also, in whatever time-out settings
you
have in BIOS, ACPI or APM should be enabled, but all timers should
be
disabled. This lets Windows handle it.

Next, you should check in Device Manager for APM or ACPI devices,
and if
there are any conflicts or if it is disabled. And, perhaps, you will
want to go into Safe Mode to check Device Manager there. Find APM or
ACPI devices, if any, then remove them, then restart.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Harris" wrote in message
...
I know this is not the right place, but where can I go if the 98
Power
Management section is perpetual out of service.
My question is I need to press the buttom for abt 10 sec before
the
power is
off, where can I adjust it to shut down quicker. I cannot find in
the
BIO'S
(AMI) power management. Appreciate your response, thanks

PCR wrote:
You are welcome. All I really have is this bundle of articles...

I know, but we want the personalized touch. Come on now...!

Thats a bundle for me to chew. All I want is to be able to have a soft shut
down(if that is feasible). I am not interested in hibernating, standby,
screen saver (which I dont use) etc. In Power Option Properties, I see there
is 'Advance Power Management' which is not check. Do I check this and after
that what do I do with the BIOS? I am a simple user of the pc. Please advice,
many thanks

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Not sure I comprehend your description, but leave ACPI, at least,
enabled. However, you *do* want to disable any power off or suspend or
standby timers listed there once ACPI is enabled. As for "wake" events,
that's up to you.

With those settings, your machine should shut down in the manner you
expect, and you should have full control from the Power Management
applet in Display Settings in Windows. I suggest you *do_not* enable
Standby. It is often problematic, and seems to have been so in the past
for you. Most people don't even consider power management of the hard
disk to be worth while, and setting a timer for suspending the monitor
is up to you. I set my monitor to go into Suspend after 5 minutes, and I
don't use a screensaver. However, I spend most of my time in front of
this machine, and so it seldom suspends the monitor except when I leave
the house, take a meal break, or go to bed. If you typically use the
computer sporadically throughout the day, then you might be better
served by a screensaver set to kick in after a few minutes and suspend
after 20 minutes or more (takes longer to awake from a Suspend, whereas
awakening from Screensaver is instantaneous. Password-protecting the
screensaver, and using a hot-key to engage it is also useful in public
situations.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Harris" wrote in message
...
M741LMRT mobo/AMIBIOS simple setup utility v1.2 and under the PMSetup
Power Management/APM ........ "Disabled" (but if I press '+', it
gives 3
options APM, ACPI, APM/APCI.

Under 'Disabled' option - both Standby Time out and Suspend Time out
were
'grey'
while KB Power On/Lan card/Ring On/ RTC Alarm - all Disabled

Under APM option - the grey portion becomes 'Disabled', so all the
functions
are disable.

Similarly under ACPI option, all are 'Disabled'
Also under APM/ACPI option - all are 'Disabled'

Have to correct myself, the time taken to shut down is about 4 sec.
At start up, I also get this message "The last time, your pc went on
standby, it stop responding. Would you like to prevent going standby
in the
Advance Power Management" It give you YES/NO option which I press
'YES'
I guess, I cant have the automatic shut down or soft switch/power as
they
call it. Should I change the "Disabled' to "APM'? I appreciate
everybody's
response. Thanks



"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

If there is no Power Management in the BIOS, is there any mention of
ACPI? That should be enabled. Also, in whatever time-out settings
you
have in BIOS, ACPI or APM should be enabled, but all timers should
be
disabled. This lets Windows handle it.

Next, you should check in Device Manager for APM or ACPI devices,
and if
there are any conflicts or if it is disabled. And, perhaps, you will
want to go into Safe Mode to check Device Manager there. Find APM or
ACPI devices, if any, then remove them, then restart.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Harris" wrote in message
...
I know this is not the right place, but where can I go if the 98
Power
Management section is perpetual out of service.
My question is I need to press the buttom for abt 10 sec before
the
power is
off, where can I adjust it to shut down quicker. I cannot find in
the
BIO'S
(AMI) power management. Appreciate your response, thanks

As I said, I'm not clear on the phraseology used by your BIOS. The best
I can say it to make sure whatever it says leaves ACPI enabled, but none
of the sub-options enabled. That's in BIOS.

After restarting, in Power Options, set everything to "Never". Now, if
that doesn't work, you'll have to do some investigating of Device
Manager, removing the ACPI of APM devices, restarting and letting
Windows reinstall them.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Harris" wrote in message
...
Thats a bundle for me to chew. All I want is to be able to have a soft
shut
down(if that is feasible). I am not interested in hibernating,
standby,
screen saver (which I dont use) etc. In Power Option Properties, I see
there
is 'Advance Power Management' which is not check. Do I check this and
after
that what do I do with the BIOS? I am a simple user of the pc. Please
advice,
many thanks

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Not sure I comprehend your description, but leave ACPI, at least,
enabled. However, you *do* want to disable any power off or suspend
or
standby timers listed there once ACPI is enabled. As for "wake"
events,
that's up to you.

With those settings, your machine should shut down in the manner you
expect, and you should have full control from the Power Management
applet in Display Settings in Windows. I suggest you *do_not* enable
Standby. It is often problematic, and seems to have been so in the
past
for you. Most people don't even consider power management of the
hard
disk to be worth while, and setting a timer for suspending the
monitor
is up to you. I set my monitor to go into Suspend after 5 minutes,
and I
don't use a screensaver. However, I spend most of my time in front
of
this machine, and so it seldom suspends the monitor except when I
leave
the house, take a meal break, or go to bed. If you typically use the
computer sporadically throughout the day, then you might be better
served by a screensaver set to kick in after a few minutes and
suspend
after 20 minutes or more (takes longer to awake from a Suspend,
whereas
awakening from Screensaver is instantaneous. Password-protecting the
screensaver, and using a hot-key to engage it is also useful in
public
situations.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Harris" wrote in message
...
M741LMRT mobo/AMIBIOS simple setup utility v1.2 and under the
PMSetup
Power Management/APM ........ "Disabled" (but if I press '+',
it
gives 3
options APM, ACPI, APM/APCI.

Under 'Disabled' option - both Standby Time out and Suspend Time
out
were
'grey'
while KB Power On/Lan card/Ring On/ RTC Alarm - all Disabled

Under APM option - the grey portion becomes 'Disabled', so all the
functions
are disable.

Similarly under ACPI option, all are 'Disabled'
Also under APM/ACPI option - all are 'Disabled'

Have to correct myself, the time taken to shut down is about 4
sec.
At start up, I also get this message "The last time, your pc went
on
standby, it stop responding. Would you like to prevent going
standby
in the
Advance Power Management" It give you YES/NO option which I press
'YES'
I guess, I cant have the automatic shut down or soft switch/power
as
they
call it. Should I change the "Disabled' to "APM'? I appreciate
everybody's
response. Thanks



"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

If there is no Power Management in the BIOS, is there any
mention of
ACPI? That should be enabled. Also, in whatever time-out
settings
you
have in BIOS, ACPI or APM should be enabled, but all timers
should
be
disabled. This lets Windows handle it.

Next, you should check in Device Manager for APM or ACPI
devices,
and if
there are any conflicts or if it is disabled. And, perhaps, you
will
want to go into Safe Mode to check Device Manager there. Find
APM or
ACPI devices, if any, then remove them, then restart.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Harris" wrote in message
...
I know this is not the right place, but where can I go if the
98
Power
Management section is perpetual out of service.
My question is I need to press the buttom for abt 10 sec
before
the
power is
off, where can I adjust it to shut down quicker. I cannot find
in
the
BIO'S
(AMI) power management. Appreciate your response, thanks