missing files on windows startup?

"surface9" wrote in message
oups.com...
| MEB wrote:
|
| I would question WHY you did not have those files. Was that box updated
| fully?
|
| 168115US8.EXE contained that file.
|
| In fact all of those files were updated over the course of time...
|
| You could TRY registering the dll, though you will likely run across
other
| issues.
|
| From Start Run regsvr32 msnp32.dll - then shutdown/restart
|
| --
| MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ________
|
| When I ran "regsvr32 msnp32.dll", I got an error message dialogue:
|
| ___________________________________
| Title: RegSvr32
|
| ! LoadLibrary("msnp32.dll") failed
| GetLastError returns 0x00000002
|
| OK
| _____________________________________
|
| I am realizing just how ignorant I am about networking. I managed to
| get my other PC (win98se) connected to the router and modem and
| internet all by itself without any trouble, but, then, when I went to
| get this 2nd PC (also win98se) hooked up to the internet through a
| different port on the router, I had a lot of trouble and got really
| confused. I had to reboot many times and I don't remember exactly
| everything I did, but, somehow, I managed to get this 2nd PC hooked up
| enough so that it manages to connect to the internet just fine even at
| the same time as the other PC.

Well, that's good. You're farther than most when first attempting a
network.

|
| So I know the wiring is OK and the fact that they both access the
| internet tells me things must be ok, but, then, I don't understand
| that "missing file" message since I can see it very clearly with
| windows explorer and also using the "find" feature.

That means nothing. For the system to use those files, the registry MUST
know how to use them and where they are located. For instance, did you put
those into Windows\System folder?

|
| Anyhow, I was hoping to get these two win98se PC's to be able to see
| each others harddrives and printers now that they are both
| successfully accessing the internet via the router - the router
| (linksys) box says on it that this router makes it possible for
| windows machines to see each others h/d's and printers - but there
| were NO INSTRUCTIONS as to how I go about doing that and I can't find
| anything on google that explains it for me - all the writeups I find
| assume I already have a "local network" and they explain how to add
| another machine - but I didn't find any write up that will walk me
| through a step by step instructions of how I set up my "local network"
| from just having successfully connected both PC's to the internet via
| a router. One thing I did notice though, is that this linksys router
| has DHCP in its properties somewhere, so, I suppose that means I don't
| have to assign IP address. I went to "www.whatismyip.com", and it
| tells me the same address for BOTH PC's, so, I guess that means the
| router automatically got that address and applied it to both PC's - is
| that my problem?

That same address is the address of the router OR the ISP proxy or assigned
address. That is one of the things that makes most think that a router
supplies sufficient firewall style protection. The problem is this type and
depth of probing is NOT the only probing/hacks done by Internet hackers. You
will NOT find the hacker style of probing done ON the net by legitimate
*public accessible* web sites as that could potential bring them under suit
or potentially, criminal prosecution. Most, if not all, are limited to the
suggested *standards* and *rules* [and by laws]. To run those hacker types
of tests requires local and specialty *attack* servers be run against the
target network, its servers, and its devices, EXACTLY as hacker might.

|
| I guess maybe I shooed go ahead an re-install win98se on my 2nd machine
| and get back to this point without that msnp32.dll error, and then
| maybe I'll get an option somewhere that will let me create a "local
| network".

That would likely be best, as those files ARE installed as part of the
normal installation process. DO NOT try to over install, as that will
generally cause the dreaded *DLL hell*.

As for creating the network, that will still need to be done BY you, though
the netcard adapter, and router should be found and used during the
installation process.

Again, I have to question why those files were NOT in your system:

1. Did you use an actual installation CDROM or upgrade CD?

2. Does your present Control Panel have a Networking Icon?

3. Did you use one of those supposed cumulative updates compilations
available on the Internet rather than Windows Update or your own saved
files?

4. Did you perhaps use some program or application to attempt to remove IE
or some tweak program?

|
| Any advice I get will be greatly appreciated.
|
| By the way, what is "168115US8.EXE" - should I know what that is?

That was an update offered by Microsoft to address Domain Password caching
issues.

|
| littleberry
|

*Initial network setup with a router using DHCP.*

When you connect to the Router, all the IP addresses for everything
connected to the Router (except modem which will receive its address
directly from the ISP) should be a 192.168.1.xxx address.
The modem [in a separate modem to router configuration] would be connected
to the *WAN* or *Internet* connection unless in multiple router
configurations [such as WIFI and cabled, or a modem/router combo]. In that
case, one router MUST be the master DHCP and the others configured as
switches [receiving their addresses from the master]. Also, the secondary
routers would NOT use the WAN/Internet connection, but one of the normal
node connections, or one specified as the WIFI connection [for an actual
WIFI connection - as a separate subnet].
If you allow the router to DHCP, then *.xxx* should automatically be
192.168.1.100 and up [depends upon the router]. So it would look somewhat
like this for IP {when using winipcfg Details/More Information in 9X or
ipconfig /all}:
192.168.1.100 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 for the first, 192.168.1.200 Subnet
Mask 255.255.255.0 for the second device/computer, etc.
And the Gateway as:
192.168.1.1 {the router connected to the modem}
DNS could be an address from the router, or perhaps a proxy or some other
server if those were installed within the network.

Regardless, your Networking TCP/IP tabs should show everything disabled
or automatic if the router is "taking care of business"..
In *Networking* also make sure that you have the same WORKGROUP name across
the network, and all are in the same subnet. Also make sure that this Simple
Network has *Networking File and Printer Sharing* enabled.
Make absolutely sure your Firewalls [and make sure you DO use one on each
computer regardless of the supposed hardware firewall supplied by the
router] have been configured to allow your network traffic [network range]
AND File and Printer Sharing. Additionally, make sure there is only ONE
firewall on each computer.


*Okay, but I really want to assigned static IP addresses.*

That will work [and may negate potential issues when brownouts, restarts,
Sleep/Hibernate issues, and other things occur]. However, you must setup the
DHCP, DNS, WINS [if applicable], and Gateway areas to the assigned fixed
addresses.
Disable the DHCP function of your router(s) when you assign these static
addresses, because those address would be some of the normally assigned IPs
done automatically by the DHCP function within the router. If YOU assign
static addresses, then its generally recommended to make the *.xxx* shown
above, between .10 and .99. This applies for your network printer as well.
Make sure the printer [if network capable] accepts the assigned address
[some may FORGET an address unless its one of the recommended ones from the
manufacturer].
If you configure Static addressing on your computer/devices when using the
router, then you also must specify a Gateway Address of 192.168.1.1 [the
static IP of the router - its web interface address] and a DNS address of
either 192.168.1.1; or one of the DNS addresses shown in your IP
configuration [ipconfig or winipcfg] dump (while connected to the Internet
and/or your local network); or as supplied by your ISP [unless you also have
a DNS proxy or server involved, which may be supplying this] in the
Networking tabs indicated above. Make sure you have configured the Firewall
and other aspects as noted above.

For further information, or special issues:

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

Now here's something I should have asked from the start:

In Control Panel Networking do you have Microsoft Networking Client
installed?

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________


"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
|
|
| "surface9" wrote in message
| oups.com...
| | MEB wrote:
| |
| | I would question WHY you did not have those files. Was that box
updated
| | fully?
| |
| | 168115US8.EXE contained that file.
| |
| | In fact all of those files were updated over the course of time...
| |
| | You could TRY registering the dll, though you will likely run across
| other
| | issues.
| |
| | From Start Run regsvr32 msnp32.dll - then shutdown/restart
| |
| | --
| | MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | ________
| |
| | When I ran "regsvr32 msnp32.dll", I got an error message dialogue:
| |
| | ___________________________________
| | Title: RegSvr32
| |
| | ! LoadLibrary("msnp32.dll") failed
| | GetLastError returns 0x00000002
| |
| | OK
| | _____________________________________
| |
| | I am realizing just how ignorant I am about networking. I managed to
| | get my other PC (win98se) connected to the router and modem and
| | internet all by itself without any trouble, but, then, when I went to
| | get this 2nd PC (also win98se) hooked up to the internet through a
| | different port on the router, I had a lot of trouble and got really
| | confused. I had to reboot many times and I don't remember exactly
| | everything I did, but, somehow, I managed to get this 2nd PC hooked up
| | enough so that it manages to connect to the internet just fine even at
| | the same time as the other PC.
|
| Well, that's good. You're farther than most when first attempting a
| network.
|
| |
| | So I know the wiring is OK and the fact that they both access the
| | internet tells me things must be ok, but, then, I don't understand
| | that "missing file" message since I can see it very clearly with
| | windows explorer and also using the "find" feature.
|
| That means nothing. For the system to use those files, the registry MUST
| know how to use them and where they are located. For instance, did you put
| those into Windows\System folder?
|
| |
| | Anyhow, I was hoping to get these two win98se PC's to be able to see
| | each others harddrives and printers now that they are both
| | successfully accessing the internet via the router - the router
| | (linksys) box says on it that this router makes it possible for
| | windows machines to see each others h/d's and printers - but there
| | were NO INSTRUCTIONS as to how I go about doing that and I can't find
| | anything on google that explains it for me - all the writeups I find
| | assume I already have a "local network" and they explain how to add
| | another machine - but I didn't find any write up that will walk me
| | through a step by step instructions of how I set up my "local network"
| | from just having successfully connected both PC's to the internet via
| | a router. One thing I did notice though, is that this linksys router
| | has DHCP in its properties somewhere, so, I suppose that means I don't
| | have to assign IP address. I went to "www.whatismyip.com", and it
| | tells me the same address for BOTH PC's, so, I guess that means the
| | router automatically got that address and applied it to both PC's - is
| | that my problem?
|
| That same address is the address of the router OR the ISP proxy or
assigned
| address. That is one of the things that makes most think that a router
| supplies sufficient firewall style protection. The problem is this type
and
| depth of probing is NOT the only probing/hacks done by Internet hackers.
You
| will NOT find the hacker style of probing done ON the net by legitimate
| *public accessible* web sites as that could potential bring them under
suit
| or potentially, criminal prosecution. Most, if not all, are limited to the
| suggested *standards* and *rules* [and by laws]. To run those hacker types
| of tests requires local and specialty *attack* servers be run against the
| target network, its servers, and its devices, EXACTLY as hacker might.
|
| |
| | I guess maybe I shooed go ahead an re-install win98se on my 2nd machine
| | and get back to this point without that msnp32.dll error, and then
| | maybe I'll get an option somewhere that will let me create a "local
| | network".
|
| That would likely be best, as those files ARE installed as part of the
| normal installation process. DO NOT try to over install, as that will
| generally cause the dreaded *DLL hell*.
|
| As for creating the network, that will still need to be done BY you,
though
| the netcard adapter, and router should be found and used during the
| installation process.
|
| Again, I have to question why those files were NOT in your system:
|
| 1. Did you use an actual installation CDROM or upgrade CD?
|
| 2. Does your present Control Panel have a Networking Icon?
|
| 3. Did you use one of those supposed cumulative updates compilations
| available on the Internet rather than Windows Update or your own saved
| files?
|
| 4. Did you perhaps use some program or application to attempt to remove IE
| or some tweak program?
|
| |
| | Any advice I get will be greatly appreciated.
| |
| | By the way, what is "168115US8.EXE" - should I know what that is?
|
| That was an update offered by Microsoft to address Domain Password
caching
| issues.
|
| |
| | littleberry
| |
|
| *Initial network setup with a router using DHCP.*
|
| When you connect to the Router, all the IP addresses for everything
| connected to the Router (except modem which will receive its address
| directly from the ISP) should be a 192.168.1.xxx address.
| The modem [in a separate modem to router configuration] would be
connected
| to the *WAN* or *Internet* connection unless in multiple router
| configurations [such as WIFI and cabled, or a modem/router combo]. In that
| case, one router MUST be the master DHCP and the others configured as
| switches [receiving their addresses from the master]. Also, the secondary
| routers would NOT use the WAN/Internet connection, but one of the normal
| node connections, or one specified as the WIFI connection [for an actual
| WIFI connection - as a separate subnet].
| If you allow the router to DHCP, then *.xxx* should automatically be
| 192.168.1.100 and up [depends upon the router]. So it would look somewhat
| like this for IP {when using winipcfg Details/More Information in 9X or
| ipconfig /all}:
| 192.168.1.100 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 for the first, 192.168.1.200
Subnet
| Mask 255.255.255.0 for the second device/computer, etc.
| And the Gateway as:
| 192.168.1.1 {the router connected to the modem}
| DNS could be an address from the router, or perhaps a proxy or some other
| server if those were installed within the network.
|
| Regardless, your Networking TCP/IP tabs should show everything disabled
| or automatic if the router is "taking care of business"..
| In *Networking* also make sure that you have the same WORKGROUP name
across
| the network, and all are in the same subnet. Also make sure that this
Simple
| Network has *Networking File and Printer Sharing* enabled.
| Make absolutely sure your Firewalls [and make sure you DO use one on each
| computer regardless of the supposed hardware firewall supplied by the
| router] have been configured to allow your network traffic [network range]
| AND File and Printer Sharing. Additionally, make sure there is only ONE
| firewall on each computer.
|
|
| *Okay, but I really want to assigned static IP addresses.*
|
| That will work [and may negate potential issues when brownouts, restarts,
| Sleep/Hibernate issues, and other things occur]. However, you must setup
the
| DHCP, DNS, WINS [if applicable], and Gateway areas to the assigned fixed
| addresses.
| Disable the DHCP function of your router(s) when you assign these static
| addresses, because those address would be some of the normally assigned
IPs
| done automatically by the DHCP function within the router. If YOU assign
| static addresses, then its generally recommended to make the *.xxx* shown
| above, between .10 and .99. This applies for your network printer as
well.
| Make sure the printer [if network capable] accepts the assigned address
| [some may FORGET an address unless its one of the recommended ones from
the
| manufacturer].
| If you configure Static addressing on your computer/devices when using
the
| router, then you also must specify a Gateway Address of 192.168.1.1 [the
| static IP of the router - its web interface address] and a DNS address of
| either 192.168.1.1; or one of the DNS addresses shown in your IP
| configuration [ipconfig or winipcfg] dump (while connected to the Internet
| and/or your local network); or as supplied by your ISP [unless you also
have
| a DNS proxy or server involved, which may be supplying this] in the
| Networking tabs indicated above. Make sure you have configured the
Firewall
| and other aspects as noted above.
|
| For further information, or special issues:
|
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ________
|
|
|

Now here's something I should have asked from the start:

In Control Panel Networking do you have Microsoft Networking Client
installed?

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________


"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
|
|
| "surface9" wrote in message
| oups.com...
| | MEB wrote:
| |
| | I would question WHY you did not have those files. Was that box
updated
| | fully?
| |
| | 168115US8.EXE contained that file.
| |
| | In fact all of those files were updated over the course of time...
| |
| | You could TRY registering the dll, though you will likely run across
| other
| | issues.
| |
| | From Start Run regsvr32 msnp32.dll - then shutdown/restart
| |
| | --
| | MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| | ________
| |
| | When I ran "regsvr32 msnp32.dll", I got an error message dialogue:
| |
| | ___________________________________
| | Title: RegSvr32
| |
| | ! LoadLibrary("msnp32.dll") failed
| | GetLastError returns 0x00000002
| |
| | OK
| | _____________________________________
| |
| | I am realizing just how ignorant I am about networking. I managed to
| | get my other PC (win98se) connected to the router and modem and
| | internet all by itself without any trouble, but, then, when I went to
| | get this 2nd PC (also win98se) hooked up to the internet through a
| | different port on the router, I had a lot of trouble and got really
| | confused. I had to reboot many times and I don't remember exactly
| | everything I did, but, somehow, I managed to get this 2nd PC hooked up
| | enough so that it manages to connect to the internet just fine even at
| | the same time as the other PC.
|
| Well, that's good. You're farther than most when first attempting a
| network.
|
| |
| | So I know the wiring is OK and the fact that they both access the
| | internet tells me things must be ok, but, then, I don't understand
| | that "missing file" message since I can see it very clearly with
| | windows explorer and also using the "find" feature.
|
| That means nothing. For the system to use those files, the registry MUST
| know how to use them and where they are located. For instance, did you put
| those into Windows\System folder?
|
| |
| | Anyhow, I was hoping to get these two win98se PC's to be able to see
| | each others harddrives and printers now that they are both
| | successfully accessing the internet via the router - the router
| | (linksys) box says on it that this router makes it possible for
| | windows machines to see each others h/d's and printers - but there
| | were NO INSTRUCTIONS as to how I go about doing that and I can't find
| | anything on google that explains it for me - all the writeups I find
| | assume I already have a "local network" and they explain how to add
| | another machine - but I didn't find any write up that will walk me
| | through a step by step instructions of how I set up my "local network"
| | from just having successfully connected both PC's to the internet via
| | a router. One thing I did notice though, is that this linksys router
| | has DHCP in its properties somewhere, so, I suppose that means I don't
| | have to assign IP address. I went to "www.whatismyip.com", and it
| | tells me the same address for BOTH PC's, so, I guess that means the
| | router automatically got that address and applied it to both PC's - is
| | that my problem?
|
| That same address is the address of the router OR the ISP proxy or
assigned
| address. That is one of the things that makes most think that a router
| supplies sufficient firewall style protection. The problem is this type
and
| depth of probing is NOT the only probing/hacks done by Internet hackers.
You
| will NOT find the hacker style of probing done ON the net by legitimate
| *public accessible* web sites as that could potential bring them under
suit
| or potentially, criminal prosecution. Most, if not all, are limited to the
| suggested *standards* and *rules* [and by laws]. To run those hacker types
| of tests requires local and specialty *attack* servers be run against the
| target network, its servers, and its devices, EXACTLY as hacker might.
|
| |
| | I guess maybe I shooed go ahead an re-install win98se on my 2nd machine
| | and get back to this point without that msnp32.dll error, and then
| | maybe I'll get an option somewhere that will let me create a "local
| | network".
|
| That would likely be best, as those files ARE installed as part of the
| normal installation process. DO NOT try to over install, as that will
| generally cause the dreaded *DLL hell*.
|
| As for creating the network, that will still need to be done BY you,
though
| the netcard adapter, and router should be found and used during the
| installation process.
|
| Again, I have to question why those files were NOT in your system:
|
| 1. Did you use an actual installation CDROM or upgrade CD?
|
| 2. Does your present Control Panel have a Networking Icon?
|
| 3. Did you use one of those supposed cumulative updates compilations
| available on the Internet rather than Windows Update or your own saved
| files?
|
| 4. Did you perhaps use some program or application to attempt to remove IE
| or some tweak program?
|
| |
| | Any advice I get will be greatly appreciated.
| |
| | By the way, what is "168115US8.EXE" - should I know what that is?
|
| That was an update offered by Microsoft to address Domain Password
caching
| issues.
|
| |
| | littleberry
| |
|
| *Initial network setup with a router using DHCP.*
|
| When you connect to the Router, all the IP addresses for everything
| connected to the Router (except modem which will receive its address
| directly from the ISP) should be a 192.168.1.xxx address.
| The modem [in a separate modem to router configuration] would be
connected
| to the *WAN* or *Internet* connection unless in multiple router
| configurations [such as WIFI and cabled, or a modem/router combo]. In that
| case, one router MUST be the master DHCP and the others configured as
| switches [receiving their addresses from the master]. Also, the secondary
| routers would NOT use the WAN/Internet connection, but one of the normal
| node connections, or one specified as the WIFI connection [for an actual
| WIFI connection - as a separate subnet].
| If you allow the router to DHCP, then *.xxx* should automatically be
| 192.168.1.100 and up [depends upon the router]. So it would look somewhat
| like this for IP {when using winipcfg Details/More Information in 9X or
| ipconfig /all}:
| 192.168.1.100 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 for the first, 192.168.1.200
Subnet
| Mask 255.255.255.0 for the second device/computer, etc.
| And the Gateway as:
| 192.168.1.1 {the router connected to the modem}
| DNS could be an address from the router, or perhaps a proxy or some other
| server if those were installed within the network.
|
| Regardless, your Networking TCP/IP tabs should show everything disabled
| or automatic if the router is "taking care of business"..
| In *Networking* also make sure that you have the same WORKGROUP name
across
| the network, and all are in the same subnet. Also make sure that this
Simple
| Network has *Networking File and Printer Sharing* enabled.
| Make absolutely sure your Firewalls [and make sure you DO use one on each
| computer regardless of the supposed hardware firewall supplied by the
| router] have been configured to allow your network traffic [network range]
| AND File and Printer Sharing. Additionally, make sure there is only ONE
| firewall on each computer.
|
|
| *Okay, but I really want to assigned static IP addresses.*
|
| That will work [and may negate potential issues when brownouts, restarts,
| Sleep/Hibernate issues, and other things occur]. However, you must setup
the
| DHCP, DNS, WINS [if applicable], and Gateway areas to the assigned fixed
| addresses.
| Disable the DHCP function of your router(s) when you assign these static
| addresses, because those address would be some of the normally assigned
IPs
| done automatically by the DHCP function within the router. If YOU assign
| static addresses, then its generally recommended to make the *.xxx* shown
| above, between .10 and .99. This applies for your network printer as
well.
| Make sure the printer [if network capable] accepts the assigned address
| [some may FORGET an address unless its one of the recommended ones from
the
| manufacturer].
| If you configure Static addressing on your computer/devices when using
the
| router, then you also must specify a Gateway Address of 192.168.1.1 [the
| static IP of the router - its web interface address] and a DNS address of
| either 192.168.1.1; or one of the DNS addresses shown in your IP
| configuration [ipconfig or winipcfg] dump (while connected to the Internet
| and/or your local network); or as supplied by your ISP [unless you also
have
| a DNS proxy or server involved, which may be supplying this] in the
| Networking tabs indicated above. Make sure you have configured the
Firewall
| and other aspects as noted above.
|
| For further information, or special issues:
|
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ________
|
|
|

On Nov 8, 9:27 pm, "MEB" meb@not wrote:
Now here's something I should have asked from the start:

In Control Panel Networking do you have Microsoft Networking Client
installed?

--
MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________


Yes. This thread is getting too long, but I put that in my first
post: These are the items found under networking:

Client for Microsoft Networks
Microsoft family logon
Dial-up adapter
Linksys Ether16 LAN Card
TCPIP-dial-up adapter
TCPIP-linksys ether16 Lan Card

Let me recap, just for the record. I start with a formatted h/d, and
install windows 98se, electing the "recommended" installation. After
installing the mainboard CD (which has the video drivers, lan drivers,
usb drivers, etc.), then I reboot and install the AT&T DSL modem and
get logged onto the internet. Then I install the linkysy 4-port
wired router, and get logged onto the internet. During this process I
didn't have to make any choices or really know anything about
networkig or "local networking". It all goes pretty smoothly, but
just time-consuming. I repeat this process for my 2nd windows 98se
machine, but, on this 2nd PC, the LAN is not on the motherboard and I
forgot to install my LAN card (a linksys IDE network card), and
halfway through the installation of the DSL CD, it hangs trying to
find the non-installed lan card. When I realized this, I shut down
and installed the lan card, and then rebooted, but the AT&T DSL
installation wouldn't proceed and when I put the CD back in, somehow
the prior process got interrupted and those 4 files (mention in my
first post) wound up not on my system anymore. Still, even without
that, I was able to get onto the internet from this 2nd PC through the
router and the DSL modem. Then I just copied those 4 files from my
1st PC (from C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM) onto my 2nd PC and the error messages
all went away except for the msnp32.dll error message, which persists
still - even though it is certainly there under C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.

And I haven't installed anything else to do with networking, so I
really don't know what to do next. I just want both PC's to be able
to access the other's harddrive and printers, like the box for my
routers says it can.

What is the very first thing I need to do in the process of setting up
a "local network"? (I assume that is what I have to do first,
right?) How do you know when you have successfully set one up? When
I go into settings\control panel\network, all I see is a dialogue box
with three tabs, configuration, identification, and access control. I
don't see anywhere an option to "set up a local network", so, it must
be hidden or cryptic somewhere, or they just didn't bother to document
it that I can find anywhere.

The cite you refereneced talks about "wireless", which doesn't apply
in my case as my router is wired, and, I don't know what the
significance of setting up ip addresses is and why I need to do that
since both PC's are already access the internet just fine. It is so
confusing that it makes me feel like complete dullard - or, they just
haven't bothered to make everything clear for ordinary PC users like
me.

I really apprectiate you help here, start back to what you would do
after you installed win98se ('recommended'), got onto the intenet with
DSL and a wired router, and then see if you can go slowly about what
you would do next.

Thanks

On Nov 8, 9:27 pm, "MEB" meb@not wrote:
Now here's something I should have asked from the start:

In Control Panel Networking do you have Microsoft Networking Client
installed?

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Yes. This thread is getting too long, but I put that in my first
post: These are the items found under networking:

Client for Microsoft Networks
Microsoft family logon
Dial-up adapter
Linksys Ether16 LAN Card
TCPIP-dial-up adapter
TCPIP-linksys ether16 Lan Card

Let me recap, just for the record. I start with a formatted h/d, and
install windows 98se, electing the "recommended" installation. After
installing the mainboard CD (which has the video drivers, lan drivers,
usb drivers, etc.), then I reboot and install the AT&T DSL modem and
get logged onto the internet. Then I install the linkysy 4-port
wired router, and get logged onto the internet. During this process I
didn't have to make any choices or really know anything about
networkig or "local networking". It all goes pretty smoothly, but
just time-consuming. I repeat this process for my 2nd windows 98se
machine, but, on this 2nd PC, the LAN is not on the motherboard and I
forgot to install my LAN card (a linksys IDE network card), and
halfway through the installation of the DSL CD, it hangs trying to
find the non-installed lan card. When I realized this, I shut down
and installed the lan card, and then rebooted, but the AT&T DSL
installation wouldn't proceed and when I put the CD back in, somehow
the prior process got interrupted and those 4 files (mention in my
first post) wound up not on my system anymore. Still, even without
that, I was able to get onto the internet from this 2nd PC through the
router and the DSL modem. Then I just copied those 4 files from my
1st PC (from C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM) onto my 2nd PC and the error messages
all went away except for the msnp32.dll error message, which persists
still - even though it is certainly there under C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.

And I haven't installed anything else to do with networking, so I
really don't know what to do next. I just want both PC's to be able
to access the other's harddrive and printers, like the box for my
routers says it can.

What is the very first thing I need to do in the process of setting up
a "local network"? (I assume that is what I have to do first,
right?) How do you know when you have successfully set one up? When
I go into settings\control panel\network, all I see is a dialogue box
with three tabs, configuration, identification, and access control. I
don't see anywhere an option to "set up a local network", so, it must
be hidden or cryptic somewhere, or they just didn't bother to document
it that I can find anywhere.

The cite you refereneced talks about "wireless", which doesn't apply
in my case as my router is wired, and, I don't know what the
significance of setting up ip addresses is and why I need to do that
since both PC's are already access the internet just fine. It is so
confusing that it makes me feel like complete dullard - or, they just
haven't bothered to make everything clear for ordinary PC users like
me.

I really apprectiate you help here, start back to what you would do
after you installed win98se ('recommended'), got onto the intenet with
DSL and a wired router, and then see if you can go slowly about what
you would do next.

Thanks

I did some further analysis of the two Registrys and I find that the
first PC (the one without any error messages) has 395 entries
following the header:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\InstalledFiles]

but the 2nd PC (the one with the error message for msnp32.dll) only
has 90 entries under the same header. And one of the entries in the
first PC that is NOT in the 2nd PC is the one for msnp32.dll (followed
by 8 hex bytes separated by commas). So, I am jumping to the
conclusion that this shortage on the bad PC means that a whole bunch
of files are "not insallted", whether or not they happen to be present
on C:\WINDOWS\System. I am convinced now that I will just have to
throw in the towel on this 2nd PC and start all over again (big job -
I'll tackle that tomorrow). Unless, there is some way to get all
those extra files (that are on the first PC) somehow installed - is
there a way? Which would result in the Registry having an entry here
where it needs to be? I dread the re-install because I have too many
other apps installed that I use a lot - a really big job.

I did some further analysis of the two Registrys and I find that the
first PC (the one without any error messages) has 395 entries
following the header:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\InstalledFiles]

but the 2nd PC (the one with the error message for msnp32.dll) only
has 90 entries under the same header. And one of the entries in the
first PC that is NOT in the 2nd PC is the one for msnp32.dll (followed
by 8 hex bytes separated by commas). So, I am jumping to the
conclusion that this shortage on the bad PC means that a whole bunch
of files are "not insallted", whether or not they happen to be present
on C:\WINDOWS\System. I am convinced now that I will just have to
throw in the towel on this 2nd PC and start all over again (big job -
I'll tackle that tomorrow). Unless, there is some way to get all
those extra files (that are on the first PC) somehow installed - is
there a way? Which would result in the Registry having an entry here
where it needs to be? I dread the re-install because I have too many
other apps installed that I use a lot - a really big job.

Not sure if it will totally work BUT:

Go into Control Panel Network and uninstall the Microsoft Network client
found there.
Also uninstall the network card.
REBOOT
Go back to Control Panel Add/Remove Programs - and uninstall any software
related to your card and/or router, and ISP. Go to SYSTEM Device Manager
and remove the netcard.
REBOOT
Go back to Control Panel Network and re-install the Microsoft Network
client. Have your CDROM ready as it will ask for it, unless you have the CAB
files located somewhere on your Hdisk..
REBOOT
Re-install your netcard software/driver.
REBOOT
Go into Network again and make sure you have Microsoft Networking Client
installed and your card. Go to Device Manager and make sure your card is
properly installed. Go back to Networking and enable File and Printer
Sharing. Check to make sure TCP/IP is bound to your netcard.
REBOOT
Create a backup of your registry if both areas [Networking and Device
Manager] show as everything properly installed. Start Run Scanreg Yes
create new backup.

Restart and re-install your other software you removed [if any]. Check all
previously mentioned areas.

Use the prior post concerning net setup to check for proper settings. {The
default settings should be fine for a start up network}

AND if everything checks out BACKUP the registry again...

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MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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"surface9" wrote in message
ups.com...
| I did some further analysis of the two Registrys and I find that the
| first PC (the one without any error messages) has 395 entries
| following the header:
|
| [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\InstalledFiles]
|
| but the 2nd PC (the one with the error message for msnp32.dll) only
| has 90 entries under the same header. And one of the entries in the
| first PC that is NOT in the 2nd PC is the one for msnp32.dll (followed
| by 8 hex bytes separated by commas). So, I am jumping to the
| conclusion that this shortage on the bad PC means that a whole bunch
| of files are "not insallted", whether or not they happen to be present
| on C:\WINDOWS\System. I am convinced now that I will just have to
| throw in the towel on this 2nd PC and start all over again (big job -
| I'll tackle that tomorrow). Unless, there is some way to get all
| those extra files (that are on the first PC) somehow installed - is
| there a way? Which would result in the Registry having an entry here
| where it needs to be? I dread the re-install because I have too many
| other apps installed that I use a lot - a really big job.
|
|

Not sure if it will totally work BUT:

Go into Control Panel Network and uninstall the Microsoft Network client
found there.
Also uninstall the network card.
REBOOT
Go back to Control Panel Add/Remove Programs - and uninstall any software
related to your card and/or router, and ISP. Go to SYSTEM Device Manager
and remove the netcard.
REBOOT
Go back to Control Panel Network and re-install the Microsoft Network
client. Have your CDROM ready as it will ask for it, unless you have the CAB
files located somewhere on your Hdisk..
REBOOT
Re-install your netcard software/driver.
REBOOT
Go into Network again and make sure you have Microsoft Networking Client
installed and your card. Go to Device Manager and make sure your card is
properly installed. Go back to Networking and enable File and Printer
Sharing. Check to make sure TCP/IP is bound to your netcard.
REBOOT
Create a backup of your registry if both areas [Networking and Device
Manager] show as everything properly installed. Start Run Scanreg Yes
create new backup.

Restart and re-install your other software you removed [if any]. Check all
previously mentioned areas.

Use the prior post concerning net setup to check for proper settings. {The
default settings should be fine for a start up network}

AND if everything checks out BACKUP the registry again...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________


"surface9" wrote in message
ups.com...
| I did some further analysis of the two Registrys and I find that the
| first PC (the one without any error messages) has 395 entries
| following the header:
|
| [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\InstalledFiles]
|
| but the 2nd PC (the one with the error message for msnp32.dll) only
| has 90 entries under the same header. And one of the entries in the
| first PC that is NOT in the 2nd PC is the one for msnp32.dll (followed
| by 8 hex bytes separated by commas). So, I am jumping to the
| conclusion that this shortage on the bad PC means that a whole bunch
| of files are "not insallted", whether or not they happen to be present
| on C:\WINDOWS\System. I am convinced now that I will just have to
| throw in the towel on this 2nd PC and start all over again (big job -
| I'll tackle that tomorrow). Unless, there is some way to get all
| those extra files (that are on the first PC) somehow installed - is
| there a way? Which would result in the Registry having an entry here
| where it needs to be? I dread the re-install because I have too many
| other apps installed that I use a lot - a really big job.
|
|

On Nov 9, 9:42 pm, "MEB" meb@not wrote:
Not sure if it will totally work BUT:

Thanks, MEB, but I went ahead and re-installed windows 98se and that
solved the "missing files" problem. I am starting a new thread to
seek advice on how to set up my local network for file and printer
sharing between these two windows 98se PC;s.

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