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Old July 6th 04, 02:42 PM
Michael
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Default No scan disk after bad shutdown

I run Windows 98 Second Edition.

Last night I carelessly pushed the on/off button on my
tower to turn the computer off. All programs were closed
(nothing on the taskbar). I routinely do start shutdown
shutdown, but it was late and I was tired and obviously
not thinking very well.

When I turned the computer on today it started normally.
But an automatic scan disk did not run first. I checked
msconfig general tab advanced button and there is no
check mark in the box in front of "disable scan disk
after bad shutdown."

I manually ran a standard scan disk and no errors were
found.

Why didn't scan disk run? Is there a problem? Anything I
should do?

Thank you.
Michael
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Old July 6th 04, 03:03 PM
Isaac
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Default No scan disk after bad shutdown

"Michael" wrote in
:

I run Windows 98 Second Edition.

Last night I carelessly pushed the on/off button on my
tower to turn the computer off. All programs were closed
(nothing on the taskbar). I routinely do start shutdown
shutdown, but it was late and I was tired and obviously
not thinking very well.

When I turned the computer on today it started normally.
But an automatic scan disk did not run first. I checked
msconfig general tab advanced button and there is no
check mark in the box in front of "disable scan disk
after bad shutdown."

I manually ran a standard scan disk and no errors were
found.

Why didn't scan disk run? Is there a problem? Anything I
should do?

Thank you.
Michael


You're the first person I hear complain that w98 does not run scandisk.
Nothing is wrong. When windows is changing something on harddisk a flag
is set in in the FAT area of the disk. When change is ready the flag is
cleared. When the PC boots and the flag is there, scandisk will run.

Scandisk didn't run for you, so windows was doing totally nothing when
you switched off the computer. The disk could not be corrupted.
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Old July 6th 04, 05:53 PM
Simon
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Default No scan disk after bad shutdown

With a modern computer, if you push the on/off button it actually performs a
clean shutdown (as if you'd done start - etc.) If you had nothing running
that may have happened very quickly so you didn't notice it.

Simon

"Michael" wrote in message
...
I run Windows 98 Second Edition.

Last night I carelessly pushed the on/off button on my
tower to turn the computer off. All programs were closed
(nothing on the taskbar). I routinely do start shutdown
shutdown, but it was late and I was tired and obviously
not thinking very well.

When I turned the computer on today it started normally.
But an automatic scan disk did not run first. I checked
msconfig general tab advanced button and there is no
check mark in the box in front of "disable scan disk
after bad shutdown."

I manually ran a standard scan disk and no errors were
found.

Why didn't scan disk run? Is there a problem? Anything I
should do?

Thank you.
Michael



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Old July 6th 04, 05:55 PM
Simon
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Default No scan disk after bad shutdown

I though scandisk was run if Windows does not find (or it is not complete)
the shutdown log??

Simon

"Isaac" - wrote in message ...
"Michael" wrote in
:

I run Windows 98 Second Edition.

Last night I carelessly pushed the on/off button on my
tower to turn the computer off. All programs were closed
(nothing on the taskbar). I routinely do start shutdown
shutdown, but it was late and I was tired and obviously
not thinking very well.

When I turned the computer on today it started normally.
But an automatic scan disk did not run first. I checked
msconfig general tab advanced button and there is no
check mark in the box in front of "disable scan disk
after bad shutdown."

I manually ran a standard scan disk and no errors were
found.

Why didn't scan disk run? Is there a problem? Anything I
should do?

Thank you.
Michael


You're the first person I hear complain that w98 does not run scandisk.
Nothing is wrong. When windows is changing something on harddisk a flag
is set in in the FAT area of the disk. When change is ready the flag is
cleared. When the PC boots and the flag is there, scandisk will run.

Scandisk didn't run for you, so windows was doing totally nothing when
you switched off the computer. The disk could not be corrupted.



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Old July 6th 04, 07:13 PM
LuckyStrike
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Default No scan disk after bad shutdown

Michael -

Probably all processes were stopped and there wasn't a need to run ScanDisk.
However, you can take a look into the Msconfig utilityStartup tab. Look to
see if ScanRegistry is present and enabled to run at startup. Normal path in
W98se machines is C:\Windows\scanregw.exe /autorun (note: there is a space
between the " .exe" and the "/" ).

If it isn't present (Unlikely, but that has happened to me), then you would
have to add it to the Registry at the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run
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"Michael" wrote in message
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I run Windows 98 Second Edition.

Last night I carelessly pushed the on/off button on my
tower to turn the computer off. All programs were closed
(nothing on the taskbar). I routinely do start shutdown
shutdown, but it was late and I was tired and obviously
not thinking very well.

When I turned the computer on today it started normally.
But an automatic scan disk did not run first. I checked
msconfig general tab advanced button and there is no
check mark in the box in front of "disable scan disk
after bad shutdown."

I manually ran a standard scan disk and no errors were
found.

Why didn't scan disk run? Is there a problem? Anything I
should do?

Thank you.
Michael



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Old July 6th 04, 09:35 PM
Ingeborg
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Default No scan disk after bad shutdown

"Simon" wrote in
:

I though scandisk was run if Windows does not find (or it is not
complete) the shutdown log??

Simon


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When you switch off your computer while windows is running, but there's no
disk activity, you have a good chance you will not see scandisk. Alas
mostly when the system crashes, it was accessing the disk.

I've got a dual boot system, with 2 instances of W98, one for me, and one
for my children. They have shared one partition, and have each three
private partitions. When the installation of my children has crashed (which
happens often, I wouldn't know why ), and I boot my instance, (which
shut down properly), the shared partition is scanned.

I don't know of a shutdown log, besides bootlog.txt, which only is made
when turned on explicitly at boot.
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Old July 6th 04, 09:59 PM
PCR
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Default No scan disk after bad shutdown

As has been said, Windows will not auto-Scandisk, unless it deems there
was a possible write to be done to a partition. It won't necessarily be
an app you opened that may need to do it, but it could be a background
task. You are probably all right; still, it won't hurt to check various
settings...

(1) Do you have a "Scandisk.alt"? Then, Norton took over Scandisk. So,
look inside of it & in Norton menus/Norton FAQs/Norton Readme for an
answer. I do know: When Norton has been uninstalled & Scandisk
auto-Scandisk doesn't work, Glee will say to delete that file! (But
that's when it's been uninstalled.)

(2) As Blanton has said, Scandisk will not necessarily run. It depends
whether a write was pending at the time of the crash. If you do crash,
it is always wise to run your own Scandisk, anyhow, as the auto-Scandisk
is too quick to be doing it all. JUST... don't let yours constantly
restart!

(3) Look in "C:\Scandisk.log" to see what it may say. Colorado was
getting messages in there, even when it seemed the thing was not
running!

(4) Open "C:\Windows\Command\Scandisk.ini" in Notepad.
Change "NumPasses=0" to a positive number. Mine is "=5".
(However, if Norton has taken you over, perhaps look in
"Scandisk.alt" for that.)

(5) http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q118/5/79.asp
Contents of the Windows MSDOS.sys File
Careful with MS-DOS.sys: It is an important file.

(a) "START button, Settings, Folder Options, View tab".
Bolt "Show all files" & UNcheck "Hide file extensions..."
(b) R-Clk "C:\MSDOS.sys" in Explorer, select Properties, & turn off
"Read-Only"
(c) Open "C:\MSDOS.sys" in Notepad.
If it shows "AutoScan=0", change that to "=1".
(The line may be at bottom, after the filler "X's".)
(b) R-Clk "C:\MSDOS.sys" in Explorer, select Properties, & turn
"Read-Only" back on.

This setting probably is equivalent to all that (but it may get
out-of-synch)...
(a) "START, Run, MSConfig, General tab, Advanced button"
(b) Uncheck "Disable Scandisk after bad shutdown".

(6) As cquirke is fond of saying, "C:\Winboot.ini", if it exists, will
override MSDOS.sys. So, check for a "AutoScan=0" in there as well, as it
has the same format as the other.


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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Michael" wrote in message
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| I run Windows 98 Second Edition.
|
| Last night I carelessly pushed the on/off button on my
| tower to turn the computer off. All programs were closed
| (nothing on the taskbar). I routinely do start shutdown
| shutdown, but it was late and I was tired and obviously
| not thinking very well.
|
| When I turned the computer on today it started normally.
| But an automatic scan disk did not run first. I checked
| msconfig general tab advanced button and there is no
| check mark in the box in front of "disable scan disk
| after bad shutdown."
|
| I manually ran a standard scan disk and no errors were
| found.
|
| Why didn't scan disk run? Is there a problem? Anything I
| should do?
|
| Thank you.
| Michael


 




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