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Old March 29th 05, 11:50 AM
Oliver Breitfelder
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Hello!

I am trying to set up a network installation with a linksys DSL router
(BEFSR41 v3).

Two machines running Windows ME are connected to the router. I am using
static IPs. Both PCs can ping each other and see each other. Both can ping
the router successfully but only one of them opens websites. The other one
can't connect to the internet through the router. Ping yahoo.com results in
timeout. The other PC works fine (pinging the web, opening websites).

I checked TCP/IP settings and except for the different local IP erveything
is identical - gateway, DNS... What else could cause PC2 to fail when trying
to ping into the internet? I already cleaned network settings and
re-installed all protocols and network adapters to prevent problems with the
Windows ME network socket/stack.

Thanks for help!


Bye Oliver


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Old March 29th 05, 06:51 PM
N. Miller
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In article , Oliver Breitfelder says...

I am trying to set up a network installation with a linksys DSL router
(BEFSR41 v3).


Two machines running Windows ME are connected to the router. I am using
static IPs. Both PCs can ping each other and see each other. Both can ping
the router successfully but only one of them opens websites. The other one
can't connect to the internet through the router. Ping yahoo.com results in
timeout. The other PC works fine (pinging the web, opening websites).


I checked TCP/IP settings and except for the different local IP erveything
is identical - gateway, DNS... What else could cause PC2 to fail when trying
to ping into the internet? I already cleaned network settings and
re-installed all protocols and network adapters to prevent problems with the
Windows ME network socket/stack.


The only things that come to mind for the failing computer are a
misconfigured software firewall, or a hosts file with bad entries.

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Norman
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~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
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Old April 4th 05, 11:24 AM
Oliver Breitfelder
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"N. Miller" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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In article , Oliver Breitfelder says...

The only things that come to mind for the failing computer are a
misconfigured software firewall, or a hosts file with bad entries.


Hosts file sounds interesting and possible. I'm gonna check that out.
Thanks!

Bye Oliver


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Old April 7th 05, 12:36 AM
N. Miller
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In article , Oliver Breitfelder says...

"N. Miller" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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In article , Oliver Breitfelder says...


The only things that come to mind for the failing computer are a
misconfigured software firewall, or a hosts file with bad entries.


Hosts file sounds interesting and possible. I'm gonna check that out.
Thanks!


If your computer ever harbored hijackware, some of that kind of malware is
known to modify, or create a hosts file which blocks access to certain "good
guy" sites.

The hosts file does not exist in a default installation; it is a throwback
to a time before the DNS system was set up. It holds the key to converting a
Fully Qualified Domain Name (FQDN) to an IP address. Most people today
create one to redirect HTTP requests to the "localhost".

If there is a hosts file, the first "active" line should be:

127.0.0.1 localhost

There should be a "hosts.sam" file which includes some rudimentary
instructions, including the spacing. I think at least two are necessary; but
I usually use four, or so, for legibility.

I include a couple of entries for my router, and such, so I don't have to
remember the IP address. An example:

192.168.102.1 Chihiro

With that entry, I just type "Chihiro" in my browser URL bar, and I go
straight to my router configuration pages. Beyond that, I have "blocking"
aliases for sites I do not wish my browser to access. An example:

127.0.0.1 doubleclick.com

Wildcards won't work. Nor can you alias one IP address to another; the
purpose is to create a one-to-one table of FQDNs to IP addresses. So you
have to have separate entries for undesirable sites, if more than one FQDN
exists. An example

127.0.0.1 doubleclick.com
127.0.0.1 doubleclick.net

So all you need to do is first see if you even have a hosts file, then open
it to check the content. Notepad will work if the file is under 40k, or so;
anything over that size and you should use Wordpad. Any text editor will do
the job, though.

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Norman
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~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
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Old May 9th 05, 06:14 PM
N. Miller
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On Sun, 8 May 2005 18:16:51 -0700, Vicki wrote:

"Oliver Breitfelder" wrote in message
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Hello!

I am trying to set up a network installation with a linksys DSL router
(BEFSR41 v3).

Two machines running Windows ME are connected to the router. I am using
static IPs. Both PCs can ping each other and see each other. Both can ping
the router successfully but only one of them opens websites. The other one
can't connect to the internet through the router. Ping yahoo.com results
in
timeout. The other PC works fine (pinging the web, opening websites).

I checked TCP/IP settings and except for the different local IP erveything
is identical - gateway, DNS... What else could cause PC2 to fail when
trying
to ping into the internet? I already cleaned network settings and
re-installed all protocols and network adapters to prevent problems with
the
Windows ME network socket/stack.

Thanks for help!


Bye Oliver


Are the two computers using private addresses? a 192.168.1.xx or 10.0.0.xx
address? What address is your router set to? Usually the router is set up
and then the two inside computers are set up to automatically get an ip
address using dhcp. So not using static ip addresses. Does this help you?


Maybe; if he is still looking for responses one month after posting.

Oh, and the private IP addresses, as defined in RFC 1918 a

10.0.0.0/8; using the popular "X" notation: 10.xx.xx.xx
172.16.0.0/12; using the popular "X" notation: 172.16.xx.xx
192.168.0.0/16; using the popular "X" notation: 192.168.xx.xx

I don't use anything in 10.0.0.0/8, but I do use both 172.16.0.0/12 (I have
172.29.61.1 as a gateway), and 192.168.0.0/16 (I have 192.168.102.1 as a
gateway).

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Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
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Old May 12th 05, 08:49 AM
Oliver Breitfelder
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"N. Miller" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Maybe; if he is still looking for responses one month after posting.

Oh, and the private IP addresses, as defined in RFC 1918 a

10.0.0.0/8; using the popular "X" notation: 10.xx.xx.xx
172.16.0.0/12; using the popular "X" notation: 172.16.xx.xx
192.168.0.0/16; using the popular "X" notation: 192.168.xx.xx

I don't use anything in 10.0.0.0/8, but I do use both 172.16.0.0/12 (I

have
172.29.61.1 as a gateway), and 192.168.0.0/16 (I have 192.168.102.1 as a
gateway).


I found a solution. First i used 192.168.0.254 as router IP and 192.168.0.1
and .2 as client IPs. That was a problem! The linksys router did not work
with any other IP address than the one it was configured with on the date of
delivery. When i reconfigured the router to 192.168.1.1 (factory setting)
and .2 & .3 for the clients everything works perfectly. Just as i thought,
all settings on the clients were correct. Don't know what causes this
strange behaviour of the linksys device but it's rather irritating.

Thanks for your help.

Bye Oli


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Old May 12th 05, 07:16 PM
N. Miller
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 09:49:17 +0200, Oliver Breitfelder wrote:

I found a solution. First i used 192.168.0.254 as router IP and 192.168.0.1
and .2 as client IPs. That was a problem! The linksys router did not work
with any other IP address than the one it was configured with on the date of
delivery. When i reconfigured the router to 192.168.1.1 (factory setting)
and .2 & .3 for the clients everything works perfectly. Just as i thought,
all settings on the clients were correct. Don't know what causes this
strange behaviour of the linksys device but it's rather irritating.


I find it odd that a Linksys router would not work with any network address
it was configured to use. I have a Linksys BEFSR11. I have configured it
for about three other network addresses than the default, and it has worked
for each network address. Most recently, I had it set with 192.168.102.2 on
the WAN port, and 192.168.3.2 on the LAN port. It worked as configured.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
 




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