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XP and 98 Home Network: Find Computer works but Neighborhood does
I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully
sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see each other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I know but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help gratefully received. |
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The shared printer name is probably either too long (more than 12
characters) or contains a space or other character Windows 98 doesn't like. Change the share name to something simple and short (like XPPrinter) and see if you can use it then. As for browsing, this is a common problem in home networks. Since you can find the computers and share resources this means the network is working correctly, so most likely both computers are trying to be the network master browser and that's why you can't browse. Turn on both computers and log into them, then walk away for at least 15 minutes. Can you browse the network then? -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Clive Johnson" wrote in message ... I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see each other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I know but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help gratefully received. |
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XP and 98 Home Network: Find Computer works but Neighborhood does
The shared printer name is probably either too long (more than 12
characters) or contains a space or other character Windows 98 doesn't like. Change the share name to something simple and short (like XPPrinter) and see if you can use it then. As for browsing, this is a common problem in home networks. Since you can find the computers and share resources this means the network is working correctly, so most likely both computers are trying to be the network master browser and that's why you can't browse. Turn on both computers and log into them, then walk away for at least 15 minutes. Can you browse the network then? -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Clive Johnson" wrote in message ... I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see each other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I know but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help gratefully received. |
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Thanks very much for your response. It inspired me to keep trying a number
of things, but my problems aren't solved yet. The printer is just called Lexmark with no funny characters, The XP computer did have a hyphen in the name, I took it out, but no luck. I'm beginning to think I'm tackling the wrong problem. I've tried to get a new W98 printer driver today, but Lexmark's website errored, I've emailed them. I've found that I can map network drives as well as Find Computer, I still can't use My Network Places/ Network Neighborhood, but maybe that's the way it's meant to be for my setup. I did find a message in the XP Event Viewer about the 98 PC forcing an election for the master browser, but I can't find any info on how to permanently configure this. "Richard G. Harper" wrote: The shared printer name is probably either too long (more than 12 characters) or contains a space or other character Windows 98 doesn't like. Change the share name to something simple and short (like XPPrinter) and see if you can use it then. As for browsing, this is a common problem in home networks. Since you can find the computers and share resources this means the network is working correctly, so most likely both computers are trying to be the network master browser and that's why you can't browse. Turn on both computers and log into them, then walk away for at least 15 minutes. Can you browse the network then? -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Clive Johnson" wrote in message ... I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see each other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I know but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help gratefully received. |
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XP and 98 Home Network: Find Computer works but Neighborhood d
Thanks very much for your response. It inspired me to keep trying a number
of things, but my problems aren't solved yet. The printer is just called Lexmark with no funny characters, The XP computer did have a hyphen in the name, I took it out, but no luck. I'm beginning to think I'm tackling the wrong problem. I've tried to get a new W98 printer driver today, but Lexmark's website errored, I've emailed them. I've found that I can map network drives as well as Find Computer, I still can't use My Network Places/ Network Neighborhood, but maybe that's the way it's meant to be for my setup. I did find a message in the XP Event Viewer about the 98 PC forcing an election for the master browser, but I can't find any info on how to permanently configure this. "Richard G. Harper" wrote: The shared printer name is probably either too long (more than 12 characters) or contains a space or other character Windows 98 doesn't like. Change the share name to something simple and short (like XPPrinter) and see if you can use it then. As for browsing, this is a common problem in home networks. Since you can find the computers and share resources this means the network is working correctly, so most likely both computers are trying to be the network master browser and that's why you can't browse. Turn on both computers and log into them, then walk away for at least 15 minutes. Can you browse the network then? -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Clive Johnson" wrote in message ... I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see each other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I know but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help gratefully received. |
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Hi,
Windows XP does not come with the NetBeui Protocol, you may need to add this protocol to your XP box - there are two files you will need to do this. One is netnbf.inf and the other is nbf.sys. Once you have these files you need to copy the netnbf.inf to c:\windows\inf The nby.sys nets to be copied to c:\windows\system32\drivers. Once you have copied these to the appropriate folders you will need to add the protocol to My Network Places - Right click on this icon and come to properties, once the window pops up - right click on the local area connection - go to properties - click Install - choose NetBeui. This should help with seeing each other - might help with the printer issue - but that sounds more like a driver issue. "Clive Johnson" wrote: Thanks very much for your response. It inspired me to keep trying a number of things, but my problems aren't solved yet. The printer is just called Lexmark with no funny characters, The XP computer did have a hyphen in the name, I took it out, but no luck. I'm beginning to think I'm tackling the wrong problem. I've tried to get a new W98 printer driver today, but Lexmark's website errored, I've emailed them. I've found that I can map network drives as well as Find Computer, I still can't use My Network Places/ Network Neighborhood, but maybe that's the way it's meant to be for my setup. I did find a message in the XP Event Viewer about the 98 PC forcing an election for the master browser, but I can't find any info on how to permanently configure this. "Richard G. Harper" wrote: The shared printer name is probably either too long (more than 12 characters) or contains a space or other character Windows 98 doesn't like. Change the share name to something simple and short (like XPPrinter) and see if you can use it then. As for browsing, this is a common problem in home networks. Since you can find the computers and share resources this means the network is working correctly, so most likely both computers are trying to be the network master browser and that's why you can't browse. Turn on both computers and log into them, then walk away for at least 15 minutes. Can you browse the network then? -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Clive Johnson" wrote in message ... I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see each other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I know but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help gratefully received. |
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XP and 98 Home Network: Find Computer works but Neighborhood d
Hi,
Windows XP does not come with the NetBeui Protocol, you may need to add this protocol to your XP box - there are two files you will need to do this. One is netnbf.inf and the other is nbf.sys. Once you have these files you need to copy the netnbf.inf to c:\windows\inf The nby.sys nets to be copied to c:\windows\system32\drivers. Once you have copied these to the appropriate folders you will need to add the protocol to My Network Places - Right click on this icon and come to properties, once the window pops up - right click on the local area connection - go to properties - click Install - choose NetBeui. This should help with seeing each other - might help with the printer issue - but that sounds more like a driver issue. "Clive Johnson" wrote: Thanks very much for your response. It inspired me to keep trying a number of things, but my problems aren't solved yet. The printer is just called Lexmark with no funny characters, The XP computer did have a hyphen in the name, I took it out, but no luck. I'm beginning to think I'm tackling the wrong problem. I've tried to get a new W98 printer driver today, but Lexmark's website errored, I've emailed them. I've found that I can map network drives as well as Find Computer, I still can't use My Network Places/ Network Neighborhood, but maybe that's the way it's meant to be for my setup. I did find a message in the XP Event Viewer about the 98 PC forcing an election for the master browser, but I can't find any info on how to permanently configure this. "Richard G. Harper" wrote: The shared printer name is probably either too long (more than 12 characters) or contains a space or other character Windows 98 doesn't like. Change the share name to something simple and short (like XPPrinter) and see if you can use it then. As for browsing, this is a common problem in home networks. Since you can find the computers and share resources this means the network is working correctly, so most likely both computers are trying to be the network master browser and that's why you can't browse. Turn on both computers and log into them, then walk away for at least 15 minutes. Can you browse the network then? -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Clive Johnson" wrote in message ... I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see each other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I know but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help gratefully received. |
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In article , "net
beui" net beui @discussions.microsoft.com wrote: "Clive Johnson" wrote in message ... I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see each other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I know but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help gratefully received. Hi, Windows XP does not come with the NetBeui Protocol, you may need to add this protocol to your XP box - there are two files you will need to do this. One is netnbf.inf and the other is nbf.sys. Once you have these files you need to copy the netnbf.inf to c:\windows\inf The nby.sys nets to be copied to c:\windows\system32\drivers. Once you have copied these to the appropriate folders you will need to add the protocol to My Network Places - Right click on this icon and come to properties, once the window pops up - right click on the local area connection - go to properties - click Install - choose NetBeui. This should help with seeing each other - might help with the printer issue - but that sounds more like a driver issue. In my experience, adding protocols to a network that isn't working is likely to make the problem worse, especially when the problems involve network browsing and XP. Nothing in Windows networking requires, or has ever required, NetBEUI. It's better to get everything working using TCP/IP as the only protocol. Disabling Browse Master on the 98 PC might help. That setting is in Control Panel | Network | File and Printer Sharing | Properties. You should be able to access the other computer, without using Network Neighborhood or My Network Places, through Find Computer, or by typing the other computer's name in the Start | Run box preceded by two backslash characters: \\computer Make sure that the XP computer's shared printer name isn't longer than 12 characters. If it is, 98 won't be able to see the printer. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm |
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XP and 98 Home Network: Find Computer works but Neighborhood d
In article , "net
beui" net beui @discussions.microsoft.com wrote: "Clive Johnson" wrote in message ... I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see each other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I know but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help gratefully received. Hi, Windows XP does not come with the NetBeui Protocol, you may need to add this protocol to your XP box - there are two files you will need to do this. One is netnbf.inf and the other is nbf.sys. Once you have these files you need to copy the netnbf.inf to c:\windows\inf The nby.sys nets to be copied to c:\windows\system32\drivers. Once you have copied these to the appropriate folders you will need to add the protocol to My Network Places - Right click on this icon and come to properties, once the window pops up - right click on the local area connection - go to properties - click Install - choose NetBeui. This should help with seeing each other - might help with the printer issue - but that sounds more like a driver issue. In my experience, adding protocols to a network that isn't working is likely to make the problem worse, especially when the problems involve network browsing and XP. Nothing in Windows networking requires, or has ever required, NetBEUI. It's better to get everything working using TCP/IP as the only protocol. Disabling Browse Master on the 98 PC might help. That setting is in Control Panel | Network | File and Printer Sharing | Properties. You should be able to access the other computer, without using Network Neighborhood or My Network Places, through Find Computer, or by typing the other computer's name in the Start | Run box preceded by two backslash characters: \\computer Make sure that the XP computer's shared printer name isn't longer than 12 characters. If it is, 98 won't be able to see the printer. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm |
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Thanks Steve! Disabling Browse Master, and perhaps also the fact that I
recently temporarily connected the same printer to the 98 computer and got it working that way first, has got me a networked printer for the first time. "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: In article , "net beui" net beui @discussions.microsoft.com wrote: "Clive Johnson" wrote in message ... I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see each other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I know but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help gratefully received. Hi, Windows XP does not come with the NetBeui Protocol, you may need to add this protocol to your XP box - there are two files you will need to do this. One is netnbf.inf and the other is nbf.sys. Once you have these files you need to copy the netnbf.inf to c:\windows\inf The nby.sys nets to be copied to c:\windows\system32\drivers. Once you have copied these to the appropriate folders you will need to add the protocol to My Network Places - Right click on this icon and come to properties, once the window pops up - right click on the local area connection - go to properties - click Install - choose NetBeui. This should help with seeing each other - might help with the printer issue - but that sounds more like a driver issue. In my experience, adding protocols to a network that isn't working is likely to make the problem worse, especially when the problems involve network browsing and XP. Nothing in Windows networking requires, or has ever required, NetBEUI. It's better to get everything working using TCP/IP as the only protocol. Disabling Browse Master on the 98 PC might help. That setting is in Control Panel | Network | File and Printer Sharing | Properties. You should be able to access the other computer, without using Network Neighborhood or My Network Places, through Find Computer, or by typing the other computer's name in the Start | Run box preceded by two backslash characters: \\computer Make sure that the XP computer's shared printer name isn't longer than 12 characters. If it is, 98 won't be able to see the printer. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm |
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