XP and 98 Home Network: Find Computer works but Neighborhood does

Thanks Steve! Disabling Browse Master, and perhaps also the fact that I
recently temporarily connected the same printer to the 98 computer and got it
working that way first, has got me a networked printer for the first time.

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

In article , "net
beui" net beui @discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
"Clive Johnson" wrote in message
...
I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully
sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see
each
other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the
other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the
XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I
know
but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help
gratefully
received.

Hi,

Windows XP does not come with the NetBeui Protocol, you may need to add this
protocol to your XP box - there are two files you will need to do this. One
is netnbf.inf and the other is nbf.sys. Once you have these files you need
to copy the netnbf.inf to c:\windows\inf
The nby.sys nets to be copied to c:\windows\system32\drivers.

Once you have copied these to the appropriate folders you will need to add
the protocol to My Network Places - Right click on this icon and come to
properties, once the window pops up - right click on the local area
connection - go to properties - click Install - choose NetBeui.

This should help with seeing each other - might help with the printer issue
- but that sounds more like a driver issue.

In my experience, adding protocols to a network that isn't working is
likely to make the problem worse, especially when the problems involve
network browsing and XP. Nothing in Windows networking requires, or
has ever required, NetBEUI. It's better to get everything working
using TCP/IP as the only protocol.

Disabling Browse Master on the 98 PC might help. That setting is in
Control Panel | Network | File and Printer Sharing | Properties.

You should be able to access the other computer, without using Network
Neighborhood or My Network Places, through Find Computer, or by typing
the other computer's name in the Start | Run box preceded by two
backslash characters:

\\computer

Make sure that the XP computer's shared printer name isn't longer than
12 characters. If it is, 98 won't be able to see the printer.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article ,
"Clive Johnson" wrote:
I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully
sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see
each
other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the
other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the
XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I
know
but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help
gratefully
received.

Windows XP does not come with the NetBeui Protocol, you may need to add this
protocol to your XP box - there are two files you will need to do this. One
is netnbf.inf and the other is nbf.sys. Once you have these files you need
to copy the netnbf.inf to c:\windows\inf
The nby.sys nets to be copied to c:\windows\system32\drivers.

Once you have copied these to the appropriate folders you will need to add
the protocol to My Network Places - Right click on this icon and come to
properties, once the window pops up - right click on the local area
connection - go to properties - click Install - choose NetBeui.

This should help with seeing each other - might help with the printer issue
- but that sounds more like a driver issue.

In my experience, adding protocols to a network that isn't working is
likely to make the problem worse, especially when the problems involve
network browsing and XP. Nothing in Windows networking requires, or
has ever required, NetBEUI. It's better to get everything working
using TCP/IP as the only protocol.

Disabling Browse Master on the 98 PC might help. That setting is in
Control Panel | Network | File and Printer Sharing | Properties.

You should be able to access the other computer, without using Network
Neighborhood or My Network Places, through Find Computer, or by typing
the other computer's name in the Start | Run box preceded by two
backslash characters:

\\computer

Make sure that the XP computer's shared printer name isn't longer than
12 characters. If it is, 98 won't be able to see the printer.

Thanks Steve! Disabling Browse Master, and perhaps also the fact that I
recently temporarily connected the same printer to the 98 computer and got it
working that way first, has got me a networked printer for the first time.

You're welcome, Clive.

Yes, installing a printer locally can make it easier to install later
as a network printer, because the drivers are already loaded.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article ,
"Clive Johnson" wrote:
I have a small home network with an XP SP2 PC and a 98 PC successfully
sharing the net via a Belkin router. If I do a Find Computer they see
each
other and can share files quite happily, but neither computer can see the
other in Network Neighborhood/My Network Places. Nor can the 98 share the
XP's printer presumably for the same reason. I've asked a few people I
know
but none can solve it, in fact one has the same problem. Any help
gratefully
received.

Windows XP does not come with the NetBeui Protocol, you may need to add this
protocol to your XP box - there are two files you will need to do this. One
is netnbf.inf and the other is nbf.sys. Once you have these files you need
to copy the netnbf.inf to c:\windows\inf
The nby.sys nets to be copied to c:\windows\system32\drivers.

Once you have copied these to the appropriate folders you will need to add
the protocol to My Network Places - Right click on this icon and come to
properties, once the window pops up - right click on the local area
connection - go to properties - click Install - choose NetBeui.

This should help with seeing each other - might help with the printer issue
- but that sounds more like a driver issue.

In my experience, adding protocols to a network that isn't working is
likely to make the problem worse, especially when the problems involve
network browsing and XP. Nothing in Windows networking requires, or
has ever required, NetBEUI. It's better to get everything working
using TCP/IP as the only protocol.

Disabling Browse Master on the 98 PC might help. That setting is in
Control Panel | Network | File and Printer Sharing | Properties.

You should be able to access the other computer, without using Network
Neighborhood or My Network Places, through Find Computer, or by typing
the other computer's name in the Start | Run box preceded by two
backslash characters:

\\computer

Make sure that the XP computer's shared printer name isn't longer than
12 characters. If it is, 98 won't be able to see the printer.

Thanks Steve! Disabling Browse Master, and perhaps also the fact that I
recently temporarily connected the same printer to the 98 computer and got it
working that way first, has got me a networked printer for the first time.

You're welcome, Clive.

Yes, installing a printer locally can make it easier to install later
as a network printer, because the drivers are already loaded.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm