Can I create a network without a hub/switch or router? I mean, 3 PC and 3 net cards.

The situation is this: I have a PC with cable modem connected via a
long inverted or crossed over, I don't know how this UTP cable layout
is called, it's when both endings are different and you use them to
connect 2 PC. Anyway, this cable goes to my moms PC and she enjoys
Internet thanks to my connection.

I'm going to add a 3rd, slower computer, to use as a always on server,
so the cable modem is going there, as is the other network card in
which the modem connects.
So my question is, if I add a 3rd network card to this server PC, can I
use 2 inverted cables to connect to the other 2 clients PC?
The server is gonna be windows 98 SE, one PC is win 98 SE too and mine,
the best, is XP. I do this because I don't wanna keep mine always on,
so please, don't try to convince me to use the best as a server... ITS
A NOOO :P

The idea behind this is to save me from paying the HUB.
Please, don't tell me they are not THAT expensive. I rather save the
money for something else.
Any ideas about how to do this, greatly appreciated.

This is what I refer to as a "penny wise, pound foolish" plan. A third
network card will only be a few bucks less than a small workgroup hub or
router and the router will be a lot more dependable.

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"Starriol" wrote in message
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The situation is this: I have a PC with cable modem connected via a
long inverted or crossed over, I don't know how this UTP cable layout
is called, it's when both endings are different and you use them to
connect 2 PC. Anyway, this cable goes to my moms PC and she enjoys
Internet thanks to my connection.

I'm going to add a 3rd, slower computer, to use as a always on server,
so the cable modem is going there, as is the other network card in
which the modem connects.
So my question is, if I add a 3rd network card to this server PC, can I
use 2 inverted cables to connect to the other 2 clients PC?
The server is gonna be windows 98 SE, one PC is win 98 SE too and mine,
the best, is XP. I do this because I don't wanna keep mine always on,
so please, don't try to convince me to use the best as a server... ITS
A NOOO :P

The idea behind this is to save me from paying the HUB.
Please, don't tell me they are not THAT expensive. I rather save the
money for something else.
Any ideas about how to do this, greatly appreciated.

This is what I refer to as a "penny wise, pound foolish" plan. A third
network card will only be a few bucks less than a small workgroup hub or
router and the router will be a lot more dependable.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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"Starriol" wrote in message
oups.com...
The situation is this: I have a PC with cable modem connected via a
long inverted or crossed over, I don't know how this UTP cable layout
is called, it's when both endings are different and you use them to
connect 2 PC. Anyway, this cable goes to my moms PC and she enjoys
Internet thanks to my connection.

I'm going to add a 3rd, slower computer, to use as a always on server,
so the cable modem is going there, as is the other network card in
which the modem connects.
So my question is, if I add a 3rd network card to this server PC, can I
use 2 inverted cables to connect to the other 2 clients PC?
The server is gonna be windows 98 SE, one PC is win 98 SE too and mine,
the best, is XP. I do this because I don't wanna keep mine always on,
so please, don't try to convince me to use the best as a server... ITS
A NOOO :P

The idea behind this is to save me from paying the HUB.
Please, don't tell me they are not THAT expensive. I rather save the
money for something else.
Any ideas about how to do this, greatly appreciated.

29.99$ for a router w/NAT ? too easy! and more stable/secure

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"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
This is what I refer to as a "penny wise, pound foolish" plan. A third
network card will only be a few bucks less than a small workgroup hub or
router and the router will be a lot more dependable.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Starriol" wrote in message
oups.com...
The situation is this: I have a PC with cable modem connected via a
long inverted or crossed over, I don't know how this UTP cable layout
is called, it's when both endings are different and you use them to
connect 2 PC. Anyway, this cable goes to my moms PC and she enjoys
Internet thanks to my connection.

I'm going to add a 3rd, slower computer, to use as a always on server,
so the cable modem is going there, as is the other network card in
which the modem connects.
So my question is, if I add a 3rd network card to this server PC, can I
use 2 inverted cables to connect to the other 2 clients PC?
The server is gonna be windows 98 SE, one PC is win 98 SE too and mine,
the best, is XP. I do this because I don't wanna keep mine always on,
so please, don't try to convince me to use the best as a server... ITS
A NOOO :P

The idea behind this is to save me from paying the HUB.
Please, don't tell me they are not THAT expensive. I rather save the
money for something else.
Any ideas about how to do this, greatly appreciated.

29.99$ for a router w/NAT ? too easy! and more stable/secure

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"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
This is what I refer to as a "penny wise, pound foolish" plan. A third
network card will only be a few bucks less than a small workgroup hub or
router and the router will be a lot more dependable.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Starriol" wrote in message
oups.com...
The situation is this: I have a PC with cable modem connected via a
long inverted or crossed over, I don't know how this UTP cable layout
is called, it's when both endings are different and you use them to
connect 2 PC. Anyway, this cable goes to my moms PC and she enjoys
Internet thanks to my connection.

I'm going to add a 3rd, slower computer, to use as a always on server,
so the cable modem is going there, as is the other network card in
which the modem connects.
So my question is, if I add a 3rd network card to this server PC, can I
use 2 inverted cables to connect to the other 2 clients PC?
The server is gonna be windows 98 SE, one PC is win 98 SE too and mine,
the best, is XP. I do this because I don't wanna keep mine always on,
so please, don't try to convince me to use the best as a server... ITS
A NOOO :P

The idea behind this is to save me from paying the HUB.
Please, don't tell me they are not THAT expensive. I rather save the
money for something else.
Any ideas about how to do this, greatly appreciated.

Indeed - now if only the OP will honor our advice.

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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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"Haggis" wrote in message
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29.99$ for a router w/NAT ? too easy! and more stable/secure

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"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
This is what I refer to as a "penny wise, pound foolish" plan. A third
network card will only be a few bucks less than a small workgroup hub or
router and the router will be a lot more dependable.

Indeed - now if only the OP will honor our advice.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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"Haggis" wrote in message
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29.99$ for a router w/NAT ? too easy! and more stable/secure

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"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
This is what I refer to as a "penny wise, pound foolish" plan. A third
network card will only be a few bucks less than a small workgroup hub or
router and the router will be a lot more dependable.

I sometimes take the hard road , just to see if "it" can be done..

but in these type of things....simple is better :

(now where are my crossover cables and NIC's ....g)

Dave
"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
Indeed - now if only the OP will honor our advice.

--
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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"Haggis" wrote in message
...
29.99$ for a router w/NAT ? too easy! and more stable/secure

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NG's

Windows support http://www.aumha.org
"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
This is what I refer to as a "penny wise, pound foolish" plan. A third
network card will only be a few bucks less than a small workgroup hub
or
router and the router will be a lot more dependable.

I sometimes take the hard road , just to see if "it" can be done..

but in these type of things....simple is better :

(now where are my crossover cables and NIC's ....g)

Dave
"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
Indeed - now if only the OP will honor our advice.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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"Haggis" wrote in message
...
29.99$ for a router w/NAT ? too easy! and more stable/secure

--
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NG's

Windows support http://www.aumha.org
"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
This is what I refer to as a "penny wise, pound foolish" plan. A third
network card will only be a few bucks less than a small workgroup hub
or
router and the router will be a lot more dependable.

In article .com,
"Starriol" wrote:
The situation is this: I have a PC with cable modem connected via a
long inverted or crossed over, I don't know how this UTP cable layout
is called, it's when both endings are different and you use them to
connect 2 PC. Anyway, this cable goes to my moms PC and she enjoys
Internet thanks to my connection.

I'm going to add a 3rd, slower computer, to use as a always on server,
so the cable modem is going there, as is the other network card in
which the modem connects.
So my question is, if I add a 3rd network card to this server PC, can I
use 2 inverted cables to connect to the other 2 clients PC?
The server is gonna be windows 98 SE, one PC is win 98 SE too and mine,
the best, is XP. I do this because I don't wanna keep mine always on,
so please, don't try to convince me to use the best as a server... ITS
A NOOO :P

The idea behind this is to save me from paying the HUB.
Please, don't tell me they are not THAT expensive. I rather save the
money for something else.
Any ideas about how to do this, greatly appreciated.

A server running Windows Me or Windows XP can share its Internet
connection with two other computers over two different network cards,
but a server running Windows 98 SE can't. Sorry.
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