Ping: Noel - CDRTC.DLL

Noel:

A slight misunderstanding about the floppies, I didn't have both disks
inserted at the same time, but checked them seperately with the A-drive
asking to insert a disk, when one is in the drive already . The B-drive
without a disk in "A" is working properly.
Therefore I get a negative message (like "cannot find" or something like
it), when executing the command "dir B:\"
That brings up the question are the drive letters "out of sequence" and, if
so, how can it be corrected?
Also you keep mentioning "software" as the problem. I removed everything I
was told. What else is there that I can do to solve it?
This is "my last straw".

Harry.


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
They are, indeed, the contents of the Floppy, Harry - as you should well
know by how (we've told you often enough!), Win ME increments the CD drive
letters by one when booting from a floppy in order to insert a RAMDRIVE
into
the created space.
This is because of the enumeration order forced by DOS/FAT boots.
It looks to me as if your CD works fine - so it is indeed a software
problem

WRT your Floppy not working, this is because, with another floppy in
there,
it's trying to read one at the same time as reading another - try - with
the boot floppy still in the drive - "dir B:\" - and then swap the
floppies
when directed.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"webster72n" wrote in message
...

John:

I have the sneaking suspision that those are the contents of the startup
floppy. When I tried to confirm, I discovered the floppy drive not being
able to read either. Somewhere along the way, when booting with the
startup
disk, I've seen the word 'Adaptec' and it makes me wonder, after I
deleted
all evidence of it.
I also have a 100MB zip drive as Floppy B, but that one works.

Harry.


"John John" wrote in message
...
And where did chkdsk come from???

John John wrote:

Is that the FORMAT command that I saw there?

webster72n wrote:

I actually enjoyed doing this, Mart.
There were no error reports and I did get the listing of the CD
contents.
This was on drive 'G', the virtual drive, I believe.
I also tried the same with the actual cd-rom drive 'F' with these
results
(without a cd in it):
"Volume in drive F is MS-RAMDRIVE, Directory of F:\
ATTRIB EXE 15,252 06-07-00 8:05p
CHKDSK EXE (omitted to ease operation)
COMMAND COM "
DEBUG EXE "
EDIT COM "
EXTRACT EXE "
FORMAT COM "
HELP BAT "
MSCDEX EXE "
README TXT "
SCANDISK EXE "
SCANDISK INI "
SYS COM "
14 file(s) 655.851 bytes
0 dir(s) 1,427,456 bytes free."

By the looks of it I may have omitted one of the files, there are
only
thirteen upon counting. If it should matter, I will give you the
possibly
missing one later.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Harry.


"Mart" wrote in message
...

First a note to Heather :-

It's been a V E R Y L O N G trek Heather, - around the houses,
but


Harry

and I are (I hope) making some progress, albeit three forward and
two


back.

I hope to nail the issue of a 'suspect' CD-ROM (writer) so please
bear


with

me.

BTW - Real Mode DOS - as per WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk. Oh! and
Harry,


NOT

Safe Mode!!


Now to Harry, put your Error Report to one side for a moment - with
a
bit


of

luck things *should* become clearer.

You need to try to determine whether the problem with your CD-ROM
drive is


a

WinMe/Software issue or a genuine 'faulty' CD-ROM and/or associated
cabling/connections.

Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk in the A: drive.
Select option 2. Start computer with CD-ROM support.

Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line
which
should report a drive letter for your CD-ROM. You should be aware
that


the

drive letter may not necessarily the same letter as you would
expect
to


see

in Windows.

For example, you may see the CD-ROM becoming the E:, so the screen
should
show:

Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E


When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with
an


A:\

prompt.

Now put a 'good' data CD (e.g. cover disk from a magazine) into the
CD-ROM
and at the A:\ prompt, type "E:"
(no quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press
Return.

Now, at the E:\ prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the
space)
Then
press Return.

You should see a listing of the CD contents.

Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any.

Mart



"webster72n" wrote in message
...

What'n the h*** are you raving about, Heather?
All you have to do is, look at Mart's last thread, I didn't make
that


up.

As
for the rest of your comments, I can do without, thank you.

Harry.


"Heather" wrote in message
...

What in heck is "REAL MODE DOS"???? Is this Merkin-speak for


something?

WinME doesn't have DOS. So pardon me if I ask you what in h*ll
you
are
talking about.

I think it is about time you took that machine into a tech who
knows
what he is doing and forget mucking about yourself......you
usually
screw it up good!! And then do another reinstall.....#65 coming
up??


I

have lost track.

HF
"webster72n" wrote in message
...

It must have escaped my attention, Mart, but how does one
"confirm"
the
CD-ROM (there's only one) in Real Mode DOS?
Somehow I have the suspicion, that's where the problem
originated.

Harry.


"Mart" wrote in message
...

Harry,


I still get the very same error message and
nothing changed from the way it was before.


Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what
conditions.

Just to recap :-

When things were normal g what were ALL your 'original' drive
letters,
according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have


connected?

(e.g.

A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner]
etc.,)

Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current
drive


letters?

Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?

BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in
the
News
Groups.

Mart


"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Noel:

After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed,
following
your
instructions, I still get the very same error message and
nothing
changed
from the way it was before.
My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
What is the status on my report?

Harry.

Presumably you update your extensions, Figgsy? I certainly don't get
problems with the majority. A few builds back updating FF caused errors with
the Noscript extension, that required uninstalling then re-installing
without that extension, for FF to run without crashing. Once the new
Noscript extension had been installed it ran well and has done ever since.
Ieview has never caused problems here, but I've never used Foxytunes. Why
not uninstall that and see if it helps? As you know they're dead easy to
reinstall.

FF itself hasn't caused a prob here other than the time it takes to
initially open, which annoys me - but, of course, it's pluses far outweigh
the one con!

Just love hitting Open On Tabs and having an entire folder's worth of
bookmarks open seperately! Mart is doing himself. Reminds me of all those
years I didn't touch Jap bikes, then borrowed a CB900F2!

Shane

Heather wrote:
Hun.....I am not Harry and I don't have a lot of junk on here. BUT, I
do happen to prefer Firefox over IE and want it back working properly
again. I run a lean machine......other than a bunch of mp3's, LOL. I
don't even have enough anti-malware on here according to some of the
paranoid types I know. But I don't venture to places where it might
be lurking.....and I don't get malware, period.

I have been using IE6 and it is OK, but there are some things that
Firefox just does better and it is not a virus magnet. Yet.

Kissies from Canada....Heather

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Heather, being a 'simple soul' and unlike Harry, I try to keep to the
bare minimum 'essentials' on my machines g I don't, and never have,
used Firefox, I have always used IE which has never given me any
particular hassle.

... Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts?

What about just 'uninstalling' it only. And (re)learn to live with
IE. It's not that bad. Fit for purpose! - a 'new' phrase going
around the UK at present (or not!!)

Bell's, Whistle's, who needs them? Self inflicted misery perhaps?
Ah! but we're back to Harry's problems again.

Mart


"Heather" wrote in message
...
"TomV" wrote in message
...
I've always been a fan of good mysteries. That must be the draw.



Perfect lead in......I have a problem with Firefox and have looked
on the Forum and tried some of the troubleshooting things (safe
mode, etc)....but it keeps hanging on me since that last update to
5.0.3. Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts?

Would removing my 2 extensions and 4 themes perhaps help?? Just
have IEView and Foxytunes. I would like to get it working properly
before I set up the router again (groan!!).

Cheers...Heather

Mart wrote:
LOL - But I suppose it does depend upon exactly which facet of his
'current issues' you wish to forensically debate.

Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out. g

Mart


"TomV" wrote in message
...
Hi, Mart,

Thanks for the heads up. I recall the partitioning issue from
many months ago. I didn't realize it was that long ago.

It sounded in Harry's response though that he had entered the
"partition zone" again. If so, it seemed that it might identify
a potential cause of the current issue. I certainly don't want
to revisit territory that's already been well charted.

Tom

Mart wrote:
Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated space"
is another V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling many
News Group column inches, for which everyone and his dog has
tried to get Harry to fix. Best left well alone g

.. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands
Couldn't possibly comment g

Mart

Yep.....update them all the time. Removed the Foxytunes one, which I
really don't need and tried it out for a few minutes and FF ran
OK.....perhaps that was the culprit.

Mart doesn't know what he is missing. I find it to be faster than
IE.....or as fast. Plus the tabs can't be beat. And there are numerous
little things that MS would be wise to incorporate in IE. Love the fact
that the URL's disappear after 2 days of not using them. Silly things
like that. 8-)))

Figgs

"Shane" wrote in message
...
Presumably you update your extensions, Figgsy? I certainly don't get
problems with the majority. A few builds back updating FF caused
errors with the Noscript extension, that required uninstalling then
re-installing without that extension, for FF to run without crashing.
Once the new Noscript extension had been installed it ran well and has
done ever since. Ieview has never caused problems here, but I've never
used Foxytunes. Why not uninstall that and see if it helps? As you
know they're dead easy to reinstall.

FF itself hasn't caused a prob here other than the time it takes to
initially open, which annoys me - but, of course, it's pluses far
outweigh the one con!

Just love hitting Open On Tabs and having an entire folder's worth of
bookmarks open seperately! Mart is doing himself. Reminds me of all
those years I didn't touch Jap bikes, then borrowed a CB900F2!

Shane

Heather wrote:
Hun.....I am not Harry and I don't have a lot of junk on here. BUT,
I
do happen to prefer Firefox over IE and want it back working properly
again. I run a lean machine......other than a bunch of mp3's, LOL.
I
don't even have enough anti-malware on here according to some of the
paranoid types I know. But I don't venture to places where it might
be lurking.....and I don't get malware, period.

I have been using IE6 and it is OK, but there are some things that
Firefox just does better and it is not a virus magnet. Yet.

Kissies from Canada....Heather

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Heather, being a 'simple soul' and unlike Harry, I try to keep to
the
bare minimum 'essentials' on my machines g I don't, and never
have,
used Firefox, I have always used IE which has never given me any
particular hassle.

... Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts?

What about just 'uninstalling' it only. And (re)learn to live with
IE. It's not that bad. Fit for purpose! - a 'new' phrase going
around the UK at present (or not!!)

Bell's, Whistle's, who needs them? Self inflicted misery perhaps?
Ah! but we're back to Harry's problems again.

Mart


"Heather" wrote in message
...
"TomV" wrote in message
...
I've always been a fan of good mysteries. That must be the draw.



Perfect lead in......I have a problem with Firefox and have looked
on the Forum and tried some of the troubleshooting things (safe
mode, etc)....but it keeps hanging on me since that last update to
5.0.3. Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts?

Would removing my 2 extensions and 4 themes perhaps help?? Just
have IEView and Foxytunes. I would like to get it working properly
before I set up the router again (groan!!).

Cheers...Heather

Mart wrote:
LOL - But I suppose it does depend upon exactly which facet of
his
'current issues' you wish to forensically debate.

Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out. g

Mart


"TomV" wrote in message
...
Hi, Mart,

Thanks for the heads up. I recall the partitioning issue from
many months ago. I didn't realize it was that long ago.

It sounded in Harry's response though that he had entered the
"partition zone" again. If so, it seemed that it might identify
a potential cause of the current issue. I certainly don't want
to revisit territory that's already been well charted.

Tom

Mart wrote:
Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated
space"
is another V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling many
News Group column inches, for which everyone and his dog has
tried to get Harry to fix. Best left well alone g

.. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands
Couldn't possibly comment g

Mart

I tried Firefox but wasn't that impressed, now I use Maxthon which is a
shell that runs on IE but gives you some nice features like tab browsing
and such g
Joan


Heather wrote:
Hun.....I am not Harry and I don't have a lot of junk on here. BUT, I
do happen to prefer Firefox over IE and want it back working properly
again. I run a lean machine......other than a bunch of mp3's, LOL. I
don't even have enough anti-malware on here according to some of the
paranoid types I know. But I don't venture to places where it might
be lurking.....and I don't get malware, period.

I have been using IE6 and it is OK, but there are some things that
Firefox just does better and it is not a virus magnet. Yet.

Kissies from Canada....Heather

Mart doesn't know what he is missing.

Heather, judging by the your ongoing correspondence (elsewhere in this
thread) with Firefox 'issues' then it would seem 'not a lot'. It appears
that I don't browse enough. BTW - Tabs? Are they like Favorites?

Mart


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Yep.....update them all the time. Removed the Foxytunes one, which I
really don't need and tried it out for a few minutes and FF ran
OK.....perhaps that was the culprit.

Mart doesn't know what he is missing. I find it to be faster than
IE.....or as fast. Plus the tabs can't be beat. And there are numerous
little things that MS would be wise to incorporate in IE. Love the fact
that the URL's disappear after 2 days of not using them. Silly things
like that. 8-)))

Figgs

"Shane" wrote in message
...
Presumably you update your extensions, Figgsy? I certainly don't get
problems with the majority. A few builds back updating FF caused errors
with the Noscript extension, that required uninstalling then
re-installing without that extension, for FF to run without crashing.
Once the new Noscript extension had been installed it ran well and has
done ever since. Ieview has never caused problems here, but I've never
used Foxytunes. Why not uninstall that and see if it helps? As you know
they're dead easy to reinstall.

FF itself hasn't caused a prob here other than the time it takes to
initially open, which annoys me - but, of course, it's pluses far
outweigh the one con!

Just love hitting Open On Tabs and having an entire folder's worth of
bookmarks open seperately! Mart is doing himself. Reminds me of all those
years I didn't touch Jap bikes, then borrowed a CB900F2!

Shane

Heather wrote:
Hun.....I am not Harry and I don't have a lot of junk on here. BUT, I
do happen to prefer Firefox over IE and want it back working properly
again. I run a lean machine......other than a bunch of mp3's, LOL. I
don't even have enough anti-malware on here according to some of the
paranoid types I know. But I don't venture to places where it might
be lurking.....and I don't get malware, period.

I have been using IE6 and it is OK, but there are some things that
Firefox just does better and it is not a virus magnet. Yet.

Kissies from Canada....Heather

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Heather, being a 'simple soul' and unlike Harry, I try to keep to the
bare minimum 'essentials' on my machines g I don't, and never have,
used Firefox, I have always used IE which has never given me any
particular hassle.

... Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts?

What about just 'uninstalling' it only. And (re)learn to live with
IE. It's not that bad. Fit for purpose! - a 'new' phrase going
around the UK at present (or not!!)

Bell's, Whistle's, who needs them? Self inflicted misery perhaps?
Ah! but we're back to Harry's problems again.

Mart


"Heather" wrote in message
...
"TomV" wrote in message
...
I've always been a fan of good mysteries. That must be the draw.



Perfect lead in......I have a problem with Firefox and have looked
on the Forum and tried some of the troubleshooting things (safe
mode, etc)....but it keeps hanging on me since that last update to
5.0.3. Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts?

Would removing my 2 extensions and 4 themes perhaps help?? Just
have IEView and Foxytunes. I would like to get it working properly
before I set up the router again (groan!!).

Cheers...Heather

Mart wrote:
LOL - But I suppose it does depend upon exactly which facet of his
'current issues' you wish to forensically debate.

Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out. g

Mart


"TomV" wrote in message
...
Hi, Mart,

Thanks for the heads up. I recall the partitioning issue from
many months ago. I didn't realize it was that long ago.

It sounded in Harry's response though that he had entered the
"partition zone" again. If so, it seemed that it might identify
a potential cause of the current issue. I certainly don't want
to revisit territory that's already been well charted.

Tom

Mart wrote:
Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated space"
is another V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling many
News Group column inches, for which everyone and his dog has
tried to get Harry to fix. Best left well alone g

.. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands
Couldn't possibly comment g

Mart

Harry, I don't know what you are meaning when you say :-

..and examined the "fixed" cd-rom drive "F"
for "confirmation.

and

.... or a shift in drive letters.

But let's not worry about those for the moment. Let's just take one step at
a time.

Oh! and BTW, at least for the moment, please don't "try Noel's advice and
see whether (You)'ll be able to "fix" the software problem (You're)
apparently having," Not until we can unravel/interpret/determine exactly
what you mean in some of your descriptive reports.

Having now 'proved' that your CD-ROM [reader/writer] is now OK (although we
haven't yet actually *proved* that it will write - that comes later) could
you now please do the following :-

Boot into Normal Mode WinMe and list ALL drives (descriptions) and their
letters exactly as shown in Windows Explorer. Don't worry if there are no
discs actually loaded in the A:, Zip:, or CD-ROM drives, just give the above
information please.

Are they listed in the order (and letters) in which you *think/thought* they
ought to have been listed?

Are there any drives not shown which you *think* should be show - or any
shown, which you *think* should be not be shown?

Bed time here, so it will be morning before I see your response.

Mart


"webster72n" wrote in message
...

Mart:

May I say "please" now?
I did exactly what you said and came up with a positive result.
In other words, the cd-rom drive is okey. All I did was go one step
further
and examined the "fixed" cd-rom drive "F" for "confirmation.
Now I am going to try Noel's advice and see whether I'll be able to "fix"
the software problem I'm apparently having, or a shift in drive letters.
With your help I know I can manage.
Thank you so very much for your patient assistance.

Harry.
snipped

Hey:
I would venture to say that you have more *junk* on your machine right now
than I do, pussycat.

Harry.


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hun.....I am not Harry and
thank heaven for that
I don't have a lot of junk on here. BUT, I
do happen to prefer Firefox over IE and want it back working properly
again. I run a lean machine......other than a bunch of mp3's, LOL. I
don't even have enough anti-malware on here according to some of the
paranoid types I know. But I don't venture to places where it might be
lurking.....and I don't get malware, period.

I have been using IE6 and it is OK, but there are some things that
Firefox just does better and it is not a virus magnet. Yet.

Kissies from Canada....Heather

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Heather, being a 'simple soul' and unlike Harry, I try to keep to the
bare minimum 'essentials' on my machines g I don't, and never have,
used Firefox, I have always used IE which has never given me any
particular hassle.

... Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts?

What about just 'uninstalling' it only. And (re)learn to live with IE.
It's not that bad. Fit for purpose! - a 'new' phrase going around the
UK at present (or not!!)

Bell's, Whistle's, who needs them? Self inflicted misery perhaps?
Ah! but we're back to Harry's problems again.

Mart


"Heather" wrote in message
...
"TomV" wrote in message
...
I've always been a fan of good mysteries. That must be the draw.


Perfect lead in......I have a problem with Firefox and have looked on
the Forum and tried some of the troubleshooting things (safe mode,
etc)....but it keeps hanging on me since that last update to 5.0.3.
Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts?

Would removing my 2 extensions and 4 themes perhaps help?? Just have
IEView and Foxytunes. I would like to get it working properly before
I set up the router again (groan!!).

Cheers...Heather

Mart wrote:
LOL - But I suppose it does depend upon exactly which facet of his
'current issues' you wish to forensically debate.

Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out. g

Mart


"TomV" wrote in message
...
Hi, Mart,

Thanks for the heads up. I recall the partitioning issue from
many months ago. I didn't realize it was that long ago.

It sounded in Harry's response though that he had entered the
"partition zone" again. If so, it seemed that it might identify a
potential cause of the current issue. I certainly don't want to
revisit territory that's already been well charted.

Tom

Mart wrote:
Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated space"
is another V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling many
News Group column inches, for which everyone and his dog has
tried to get Harry to fix. Best left well alone g

.. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands
Couldn't possibly comment g

Mart

One issue.....and I think Tom sorted it out.

No....tabs means you can have 2 or 5 or 10 (or any number) windows open
at once and switch back and forth between them. Can't do that with IE.
Handy for instance when I am researching places to stay on our
holidays....I have several hotels up at the same time and switch back
and forth to compare them.

Got most of the holiday booked btw......heading down to Prince Edward
Island with Elayne cuz she wants to see where her Cumberland ancestors
emigrated to in 1820. She stayed in their house in Scotland last
June......Bowness, Part Deux is this year, lol.

Heather
"Mart" wrote in message
...
Mart doesn't know what he is missing.

Heather, judging by the your ongoing correspondence (elsewhere in this
thread) with Firefox 'issues' then it would seem 'not a lot'. It
appears that I don't browse enough. BTW - Tabs? Are they like
Favorites?

Mart


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Yep.....update them all the time. Removed the Foxytunes one, which I
really don't need and tried it out for a few minutes and FF ran
OK.....perhaps that was the culprit.

Mart doesn't know what he is missing. I find it to be faster than
IE.....or as fast. Plus the tabs can't be beat. And there are
numerous little things that MS would be wise to incorporate in IE.
Love the fact that the URL's disappear after 2 days of not using
them. Silly things like that. 8-)))

Figgs

"Shane" wrote in message
...
Presumably you update your extensions, Figgsy? I certainly don't get
problems with the majority. A few builds back updating FF caused
errors with the Noscript extension, that required uninstalling then
re-installing without that extension, for FF to run without
crashing. Once the new Noscript extension had been installed it ran
well and has done ever since. Ieview has never caused problems here,
but I've never used Foxytunes. Why not uninstall that and see if it
helps? As you know they're dead easy to reinstall.

FF itself hasn't caused a prob here other than the time it takes to
initially open, which annoys me - but, of course, it's pluses far
outweigh the one con!

Just love hitting Open On Tabs and having an entire folder's worth
of bookmarks open seperately! Mart is doing himself. Reminds me of
all those years I didn't touch Jap bikes, then borrowed a CB900F2!

Shane

Heather wrote:
Hun.....I am not Harry and I don't have a lot of junk on here.
BUT, I
do happen to prefer Firefox over IE and want it back working
properly
again. I run a lean machine......other than a bunch of mp3's, LOL.
I
don't even have enough anti-malware on here according to some of
the
paranoid types I know. But I don't venture to places where it
might
be lurking.....and I don't get malware, period.

I have been using IE6 and it is OK, but there are some things that
Firefox just does better and it is not a virus magnet. Yet.

Kissies from Canada....Heather

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Heather, being a 'simple soul' and unlike Harry, I try to keep to
the
bare minimum 'essentials' on my machines g I don't, and never
have,
used Firefox, I have always used IE which has never given me any
particular hassle.

... Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts?

What about just 'uninstalling' it only. And (re)learn to live with
IE. It's not that bad. Fit for purpose! - a 'new' phrase going
around the UK at present (or not!!)

Bell's, Whistle's, who needs them? Self inflicted misery
perhaps?
Ah! but we're back to Harry's problems again.

Mart


"Heather" wrote in message
...
"TomV" wrote in message
...
I've always been a fan of good mysteries. That must be the
draw.



Perfect lead in......I have a problem with Firefox and have
looked
on the Forum and tried some of the troubleshooting things (safe
mode, etc)....but it keeps hanging on me since that last update
to
5.0.3. Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts?

Would removing my 2 extensions and 4 themes perhaps help?? Just
have IEView and Foxytunes. I would like to get it working
properly
before I set up the router again (groan!!).

Cheers...Heather

Mart wrote:
LOL - But I suppose it does depend upon exactly which facet of
his
'current issues' you wish to forensically debate.

Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out. g

Mart


"TomV" wrote in message
...
Hi, Mart,

Thanks for the heads up. I recall the partitioning issue from
many months ago. I didn't realize it was that long ago.

It sounded in Harry's response though that he had entered the
"partition zone" again. If so, it seemed that it might
identify
a potential cause of the current issue. I certainly don't
want
to revisit territory that's already been well charted.

Tom

Mart wrote:
Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated
space"
is another V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling
many
News Group column inches, for which everyone and his dog has
tried to get Harry to fix. Best left well alone g

.. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands
Couldn't possibly comment g

Mart

Oh Marty, you want to know a lot.
Will try my best to accomodate you. First the drive list:
3 1/2 Floppy (A (not reading)*
3 1/2 Floppy (B (Iomega Zip100 & working)*
Local Disk (C (working)*
Local Disk (D (working)*
Local Disk (E (working)*
Compact Disk (F (not reading)*
* = (pers. comments).
I realize the fact, not being able to see the CD-ROM drive in Safe Mode.
What I can do in safe mode is, access my Floppy A drive.
Since I have a DOS installation diskette for my CD-ROM Driver, I would like
to utilize it, only it tells me, "If you run an MS-DOS program in safe mode,
you risk corrupting the video display or experiencing anomalties. Do you
want to run the program anyway?"
The choices are "Yes" and "No". What say ye?
Whatever else of what I said you don't understand, please ignore.
By now I seem convinced that both non-reading drives are in need of
replacement. I could be wrong, of course.

Harry.


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Harry, you WILL NOT SEE your CD-ROM in Safe Mode (except in DevMan) as the
drivers are not loaded. Therefore cannot be accessed (or seen) in Windows
Explorer. See my other reply.

Mart


"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Mart:

In Safe Mode the "Compact Disk (F)" doesn't show as in windows.
In Device Manager the "Teac CD-W58E" is listed also
But it lost its ability to read and that's entirely possible, as
mentioned
before. In that instance a replacement is the only solution.
As far as I am concerned: 'case closed!'

Harry.


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Harry,

I still get the very same error message and
nothing changed from the way it was before.

Please give the EXACT error message - and, under what conditions.

Just to recap :-

When things were normal g what were ALL your 'original' drive
letters,
according to Windows Explorer and what drives did you have connected?
(e.g.
A=FDD, C=HDD0, D=HDD1, E=CD-ROM[reader], F=CD-ROM[burner] etc.,)

Are they ALL still shown in WE now and what are their current drive
letters?

Have you confirmed (and tested) the CD-ROM's in Real Mode DOS?

BTW - can you please try to remember to post in Plain Text in the News
Groups.

Mart


"webster72n" wrote in message
...
Noel:

After making sure all evidence of "Adaptec" is removed, following your
instructions, I still get the very same error message and nothing
changed
from the way it was before.
My only hope is replacement, but will it work?
What is the status on my report?

Harry.

Actually, Figgs - and Mart - Tabbed Browsing is one of the changes in IE7!
Though Firefox still did it better last time I checked. Still, the gap is
closing.

One way perhaps to look at it is like how, with the success of low-cost
airlines, British Airways started one to compete (and, presumably, in an
attempt to drive the competition out of business). But still Easyjet do it
better. No longer so sure about Ryanair, after the Channel 4 documentary!

(If that catches the eye of anyone looking up 'ryanair', consider that this
country's excellent air-safety record makes us more aware of the possibility
of dying on the runway, without ever having taken off! It's not like planes
don't catch fire).

A major issue of IE6, as I see it, is how High Security is not really
'high', and how Privacy tab's Cookie handling favours big companies, eg
advertisers.

A major issue of IE7 is it doesn't install in 9x!

Mart, what you're missing is having privacy issues dealt with by a
highly-competent 'little guy', rather than by a big corporation who, like
the rest of the English-speaking world's big corporations, consider big
business customers to be the only one's who really matter.


Shane

Heather wrote:
One issue.....and I think Tom sorted it out.

No....tabs means you can have 2 or 5 or 10 (or any number) windows
open at once and switch back and forth between them. Can't do that
with IE. Handy for instance when I am researching places to stay on
our holidays....I have several hotels up at the same time and switch
back and forth to compare them.

Got most of the holiday booked btw......heading down to Prince Edward
Island with Elayne cuz she wants to see where her Cumberland ancestors
emigrated to in 1820. She stayed in their house in Scotland last
June......Bowness, Part Deux is this year, lol.

Heather
"Mart" wrote in message
...
Mart doesn't know what he is missing.

Heather, judging by the your ongoing correspondence (elsewhere in
this thread) with Firefox 'issues' then it would seem 'not a lot'. It
appears that I don't browse enough. BTW - Tabs? Are they like
Favorites?

Mart


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Yep.....update them all the time. Removed the Foxytunes one, which
I really don't need and tried it out for a few minutes and FF ran
OK.....perhaps that was the culprit.

Mart doesn't know what he is missing. I find it to be faster than
IE.....or as fast. Plus the tabs can't be beat. And there are
numerous little things that MS would be wise to incorporate in IE.
Love the fact that the URL's disappear after 2 days of not using
them. Silly things like that. 8-)))

Figgs

"Shane" wrote in message
...
Presumably you update your extensions, Figgsy? I certainly don't
get problems with the majority. A few builds back updating FF
caused errors with the Noscript extension, that required
uninstalling then re-installing without that extension, for FF to
run without crashing. Once the new Noscript extension had been
installed it ran well and has done ever since. Ieview has never
caused problems here, but I've never used Foxytunes. Why not
uninstall that and see if it helps? As you know they're dead easy
to reinstall. FF itself hasn't caused a prob here other than the time
it takes to
initially open, which annoys me - but, of course, it's pluses far
outweigh the one con!

Just love hitting Open On Tabs and having an entire folder's worth
of bookmarks open seperately! Mart is doing himself. Reminds me of
all those years I didn't touch Jap bikes, then borrowed a CB900F2!

Shane

Heather wrote:
Hun.....I am not Harry and I don't have a lot of junk on here.
BUT, I
do happen to prefer Firefox over IE and want it back working
properly
again. I run a lean machine......other than a bunch of mp3's,
LOL. I
don't even have enough anti-malware on here according to some of
the
paranoid types I know. But I don't venture to places where it
might
be lurking.....and I don't get malware, period.

I have been using IE6 and it is OK, but there are some things that
Firefox just does better and it is not a virus magnet. Yet.

Kissies from Canada....Heather

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Heather, being a 'simple soul' and unlike Harry, I try to keep to
the
bare minimum 'essentials' on my machines g I don't, and never
have,
used Firefox, I have always used IE which has never given me any
particular hassle.

... Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts?

What about just 'uninstalling' it only. And (re)learn to live
with IE. It's not that bad. Fit for purpose! - a 'new' phrase
going around the UK at present (or not!!)

Bell's, Whistle's, who needs them? Self inflicted misery
perhaps?
Ah! but we're back to Harry's problems again.

Mart


"Heather" wrote in message
...
"TomV" wrote in message
...
I've always been a fan of good mysteries. That must be the
draw.



Perfect lead in......I have a problem with Firefox and have
looked
on the Forum and tried some of the troubleshooting things (safe
mode, etc)....but it keeps hanging on me since that last update
to
5.0.3. Am about to uninstall and reinstall it. Any thoughts?

Would removing my 2 extensions and 4 themes perhaps help?? Just
have IEView and Foxytunes. I would like to get it working
properly
before I set up the router again (groan!!).

Cheers...Heather

Mart wrote:
LOL - But I suppose it does depend upon exactly which facet of
his
'current issues' you wish to forensically debate.

Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out. g

Mart


"TomV" wrote in message
...
Hi, Mart,

Thanks for the heads up. I recall the partitioning issue
from many months ago. I didn't realize it was that long
ago. It sounded in Harry's response though that he had entered
the
"partition zone" again. If so, it seemed that it might
identify
a potential cause of the current issue. I certainly don't
want
to revisit territory that's already been well charted.

Tom

Mart wrote:
Tom, with respect, this "feature to partition unallocated
space"
is another V E R Y L O N G saga (12-18 months?) filling
many
News Group column inches, for which everyone and his dog has
tried to get Harry to fix. Best left well alone g

.. I suspect you've got quite a mess on your hands
Couldn't possibly comment g

Mart