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Old September 28th 09, 04:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Greg[_2_]
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Default win9x patch "KernelEx" makes WINXP APPS work on win9x o.s.

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:40:04 +1000, "Jeff Richards"
wrote:

Running a browser using the compatibility layer sounds like a dangerous
arrangement to me. All the security assumptions that are built into a www
browser designed for XP and above will be non-functional when running under
W98 with a compatibility layer. The layer works by emulating the XP
functions that the application expects to find available in the system. This
includes a host of file and registry security protocols that the
compatibility layer will emulate by pretending to implement, but actually
ignoring. You are opening up XP-style security holes while you are running
98-style protection software.



That what I have been wanting to know. A curious question though.
Opera 10.00 said the minimum requirement was a higher version than
windows 98se but could still be installed on older system without some
features. I am trying Opera 10.00 without kernelex installed.
(Note, I have a way to restore my system back before I installed
kernelex). So is Opera doing something different than kernelex does?



So is it safer to use firefox 2.0.0.20 without kernelex installed or
with it disabled or Use Opera 10.00?

Just use Kernelex for games or other program that may require windows
xp.


Greg


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Old September 28th 09, 10:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jeff Richards
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Default win9x patch "KernelEx" makes WINXP APPS work on win9x o.s.

"Greg" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:40:04 +1000, "Jeff Richards"
wrote:

Running a browser using the compatibility layer sounds like a dangerous
arrangement to me. All the security assumptions that are built into a www
browser designed for XP and above will be non-functional when running
under
W98 with a compatibility layer. The layer works by emulating the XP
functions that the application expects to find available in the system.
This
includes a host of file and registry security protocols that the
compatibility layer will emulate by pretending to implement, but actually
ignoring. You are opening up XP-style security holes while you are running
98-style protection software.



That what I have been wanting to know. A curious question though.
Opera 10.00 said the minimum requirement was a higher version than
windows 98se but could still be installed on older system without some
features. I am trying Opera 10.00 without kernelex installed.
(Note, I have a way to restore my system back before I installed
kernelex). So is Opera doing something different than kernelex does?


Yes - very different. It is quite practical for a program to detect the OS
it is running on and modify features and select the code that executes based
on what it finds out, and I would be pretty sure that's what Opera is doing.
In that case, there is no special security issue.

So is it safer to use firefox 2.0.0.20 without kernelex installed or
with it disabled or Use Opera 10.00?


My assumption is that running with kernelex creates security issues. I
have no idea which of the two browsers is the more secure - perhaps you
could ask in a security group

Just use Kernelex for games or other program that may require windows
xp.


I think it was primarily designed for games.

Greg


--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)


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Old September 28th 09, 10:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jeff Richards
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Default win9x patch "KernelEx" makes WINXP APPS work on win9x o.s.

"Greg" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:40:04 +1000, "Jeff Richards"
wrote:

Running a browser using the compatibility layer sounds like a dangerous
arrangement to me. All the security assumptions that are built into a www
browser designed for XP and above will be non-functional when running
under
W98 with a compatibility layer. The layer works by emulating the XP
functions that the application expects to find available in the system.
This
includes a host of file and registry security protocols that the
compatibility layer will emulate by pretending to implement, but actually
ignoring. You are opening up XP-style security holes while you are running
98-style protection software.



That what I have been wanting to know. A curious question though.
Opera 10.00 said the minimum requirement was a higher version than
windows 98se but could still be installed on older system without some
features. I am trying Opera 10.00 without kernelex installed.
(Note, I have a way to restore my system back before I installed
kernelex). So is Opera doing something different than kernelex does?


Yes - very different. It is quite practical for a program to detect the OS
it is running on and modify features and select the code that executes based
on what it finds out, and I would be pretty sure that's what Opera is doing.
In that case, there is no special security issue.

So is it safer to use firefox 2.0.0.20 without kernelex installed or
with it disabled or Use Opera 10.00?


My assumption is that running with kernelex creates security issues. I
have no idea which of the two browsers is the more secure - perhaps you
could ask in a security group

Just use Kernelex for games or other program that may require windows
xp.


I think it was primarily designed for games.

Greg


--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)


 




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