win9x patch "KernelEx" makes WINXP APPS work on win9x o.s.

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:46:25 -0700, "BUDDY"
wrote:

This win9x o.s. patch named "KernelEx" claims to allow software designed for
w2k-xp to work on win9x o.s.

here's the developers statement about this win9x patch on SOURCE FORGE.
KernelEx is an Open Source compatibility layer with an aim to allow running
Windows 2000/XP-only applications on Microsoft Windows 98 and Microsoft
Windows Millennium operating systems.

I' tried installing several apps after aplying this patch,to no avail they
wont install ! I' searched the web for support for this patch with no luck
either ,any clues how to make make win2k-xp apps work on win9x using this
patch ?


Try the unzip method, I mentioned to Buddy. Using you application
in place of Firefox.

Sometime right clicking on a file, choosing properties and choose
the compatibility tab and chose windows xp sp2 will work.

Greg

I tried that KernelEx patch before on a few apps, and it never did squat. I
bet it only works on a small handful of apps.

I tried that KernelEx patch before on a few apps, and it never did squat. I
bet it only works on a small handful of apps.

Bill in Co. wrote:
I tried that KernelEx patch before on a few apps, and it never did
squat. I bet it only works on a small handful of apps.

One it did work for was World of Warcraft. It also introduced an irritating
error (not in WoW); what the error was, I do not recall but it wasn't a big
deal, merely ittitating.

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Bill in Co. wrote:
I tried that KernelEx patch before on a few apps, and it never did
squat. I bet it only works on a small handful of apps.

One it did work for was World of Warcraft. It also introduced an irritating
error (not in WoW); what the error was, I do not recall but it wasn't a big
deal, merely ittitating.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:44:26 -0600, "Bill in Co."
wrote:

I tried that KernelEx patch before on a few apps, and it never did squat. I
bet it only works on a small handful of apps.



They have a new version or at least the version I got is
KernelEx-4.0-Final2.exe

It makes a compatibly tab for each win32 application execute file.

On firefox 3,
I ran into a couple of problems.

Once you install lite firefox, it will work better. (Note close
firefox manual, the use ctrl+alt+del to close the firefox, then
reopen it. (You may have to do this for each xpi or theme you
install). For some reason it leaves a firefox in memory, One bug
your will have this | on some spots on the menu. I don't know if I
would trust it with secure sites. I really don't know how Kernel
makes firefox3 and other apps work.

I did got both firefox 2 and firefox 3 installed at the same time.
It was a pain but it worked.

Greg

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:44:26 -0600, "Bill in Co."
wrote:

I tried that KernelEx patch before on a few apps, and it never did squat. I
bet it only works on a small handful of apps.



They have a new version or at least the version I got is
KernelEx-4.0-Final2.exe

It makes a compatibly tab for each win32 application execute file.

On firefox 3,
I ran into a couple of problems.

Once you install lite firefox, it will work better. (Note close
firefox manual, the use ctrl+alt+del to close the firefox, then
reopen it. (You may have to do this for each xpi or theme you
install). For some reason it leaves a firefox in memory, One bug
your will have this | on some spots on the menu. I don't know if I
would trust it with secure sites. I really don't know how Kernel
makes firefox3 and other apps work.

I did got both firefox 2 and firefox 3 installed at the same time.
It was a pain but it worked.

Greg

Running a browser using the compatibility layer sounds like a dangerous
arrangement to me. All the security assumptions that are built into a www
browser designed for XP and above will be non-functional when running under
W98 with a compatibility layer. The layer works by emulating the XP
functions that the application expects to find available in the system. This
includes a host of file and registry security protocols that the
compatibility layer will emulate by pretending to implement, but actually
ignoring. You are opening up XP-style security holes while you are running
98-style protection software.
--
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MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Greg" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:44:26 -0600, "Bill in Co."
snip

They have a new version or at least the version I got is
KernelEx-4.0-Final2.exe

It makes a compatibly tab for each win32 application execute file.

On firefox 3,
I ran into a couple of problems.

Once you install lite firefox, it will work better. (Note close
firefox manual, the use ctrl+alt+del to close the firefox, then
reopen it. (You may have to do this for each xpi or theme you
install). For some reason it leaves a firefox in memory, One bug
your will have this | on some spots on the menu. I don't know if I
would trust it with secure sites. I really don't know how Kernel
makes firefox3 and other apps work.

I did got both firefox 2 and firefox 3 installed at the same time.
It was a pain but it worked.

Running a browser using the compatibility layer sounds like a dangerous
arrangement to me. All the security assumptions that are built into a www
browser designed for XP and above will be non-functional when running under
W98 with a compatibility layer. The layer works by emulating the XP
functions that the application expects to find available in the system. This
includes a host of file and registry security protocols that the
compatibility layer will emulate by pretending to implement, but actually
ignoring. You are opening up XP-style security holes while you are running
98-style protection software.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Greg" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:44:26 -0600, "Bill in Co."
snip

They have a new version or at least the version I got is
KernelEx-4.0-Final2.exe

It makes a compatibly tab for each win32 application execute file.

On firefox 3,
I ran into a couple of problems.

Once you install lite firefox, it will work better. (Note close
firefox manual, the use ctrl+alt+del to close the firefox, then
reopen it. (You may have to do this for each xpi or theme you
install). For some reason it leaves a firefox in memory, One bug
your will have this | on some spots on the menu. I don't know if I
would trust it with secure sites. I really don't know how Kernel
makes firefox3 and other apps work.

I did got both firefox 2 and firefox 3 installed at the same time.
It was a pain but it worked.

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:40:04 +1000, "Jeff Richards"
wrote:

Running a browser using the compatibility layer sounds like a dangerous
arrangement to me. All the security assumptions that are built into a www
browser designed for XP and above will be non-functional when running under
W98 with a compatibility layer. The layer works by emulating the XP
functions that the application expects to find available in the system. This
includes a host of file and registry security protocols that the
compatibility layer will emulate by pretending to implement, but actually
ignoring. You are opening up XP-style security holes while you are running
98-style protection software.


That what I have been wanting to know. A curious question though.
Opera 10.00 said the minimum requirement was a higher version than
windows 98se but could still be installed on older system without some
features. I am trying Opera 10.00 without kernelex installed.
(Note, I have a way to restore my system back before I installed
kernelex). So is Opera doing something different than kernelex does?



So is it safer to use firefox 2.0.0.20 without kernelex installed or
with it disabled or Use Opera 10.00?

Just use Kernelex for games or other program that may require windows
xp.


Greg