Nuking Xp and 98SE from a machine

Robert Macy wrote:


I used to do this every month when I needed WinXP, but now I hate
WinXP so much, it's been over 6 months

Robert


Now that I 'can' relate to Robert,, because I am like PCR, and I simply
dont like xp, and there is not much more to say on the subject.

S/C

Jeff Richards wrote:
Nuke is a fairly descriptive term

When you nuke it using FDISK you are actually only replacing the existing
partitioning with new partitioning. Depending on the version and the
existing partitioning you might find that FDISK doesn't recognise the
existing partitions and won't remove them. If XP doesn't 'see' what FDISK
did then it's because FDISK didn't do anything



Yes Jeff,,

Not being a real comp' boffin, I now understand that xp doesnt relate to
fdisk, and visa-versa.

Thats why I was asking what is the best way to 'nuke'/'delete'/'format'/
or whatever so that I end up with a h/drive in a condition similar to
one I may have just purchased from a retailer.

If I messed up my intent in my explaination, then above is what I want
to do.

S/C

(btw, I have heard the 'boot-manager' from xp never really gets
deleted, is this so? Are there other 'things' or 'items' that are
still on the h/drive after a complete format/dban?
So much to learn, so little time.)

Jeff Richards wrote:
Nuke is a fairly descriptive term

When you nuke it using FDISK you are actually only replacing the existing
partitioning with new partitioning. Depending on the version and the
existing partitioning you might find that FDISK doesn't recognise the
existing partitions and won't remove them. If XP doesn't 'see' what FDISK
did then it's because FDISK didn't do anything



Yes Jeff,,

Not being a real comp' boffin, I now understand that xp doesnt relate to
fdisk, and visa-versa.

Thats why I was asking what is the best way to 'nuke'/'delete'/'format'/
or whatever so that I end up with a h/drive in a condition similar to
one I may have just purchased from a retailer.

If I messed up my intent in my explaination, then above is what I want
to do.

S/C

(btw, I have heard the 'boot-manager' from xp never really gets
deleted, is this so? Are there other 'things' or 'items' that are
still on the h/drive after a complete format/dban?
So much to learn, so little time.)

On Sep 25, 7:37*am, square/circle wrote:
Jeff Richards wrote:
Nuke is a fairly descriptive term

When you nuke it using FDISK you are actually only replacing the existing
partitioning with new partitioning. *Depending on the version and the
existing partitioning you might find that FDISK doesn't recognise the
existing partitions and won't remove them. If XP doesn't 'see' what FDISK
did then it's because FDISK didn't do anything

Yes Jeff,,

Not being a real comp' boffin, I now understand that xp doesnt relate to
fdisk, and visa-versa.

Thats why I was asking what is the best way to 'nuke'/'delete'/'format'/
or whatever so that I end up with a h/drive in a condition similar to
one I may have just purchased from a retailer.

If I messed up my intent in my explaination, then above is what I want
to do.

S/C

(btw, *I have heard the 'boot-manager' from xp never really gets
deleted, is this so? * Are there other 'things' or 'items' that are
still on the h/drive after a complete format/dban?
So much to learn, so little time.)

format using thw Win98 boot disk so it cleans all off

On Sep 25, 7:37*am, square/circle wrote:
Jeff Richards wrote:
Nuke is a fairly descriptive term

When you nuke it using FDISK you are actually only replacing the existing
partitioning with new partitioning. *Depending on the version and the
existing partitioning you might find that FDISK doesn't recognise the
existing partitions and won't remove them. If XP doesn't 'see' what FDISK
did then it's because FDISK didn't do anything

Yes Jeff,,

Not being a real comp' boffin, I now understand that xp doesnt relate to
fdisk, and visa-versa.

Thats why I was asking what is the best way to 'nuke'/'delete'/'format'/
or whatever so that I end up with a h/drive in a condition similar to
one I may have just purchased from a retailer.

If I messed up my intent in my explaination, then above is what I want
to do.

S/C

(btw, *I have heard the 'boot-manager' from xp never really gets
deleted, is this so? * Are there other 'things' or 'items' that are
still on the h/drive after a complete format/dban?
So much to learn, so little time.)

format using thw Win98 boot disk so it cleans all off

The boot manager code is outside the partition region on a disk, so a
utility that simply removes a partition might not remove the boot manager.
However, the area where the boot manager resides _is_ overwritten if you
create a new primary partition. It will usually also be wiped by a disk
cleaner or eraser utility, or by a diagnostic utility that tests the whole
disk surface.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"square/circle" wrote in message
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snip

(btw, I have heard the 'boot-manager' from xp never really gets deleted,
is this so? Are there other 'things' or 'items' that are still on the
h/drive after a complete format/dban?
So much to learn, so little time.)

The boot manager code is outside the partition region on a disk, so a
utility that simply removes a partition might not remove the boot manager.
However, the area where the boot manager resides _is_ overwritten if you
create a new primary partition. It will usually also be wiped by a disk
cleaner or eraser utility, or by a diagnostic utility that tests the whole
disk surface.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"square/circle" wrote in message
...
snip

(btw, I have heard the 'boot-manager' from xp never really gets deleted,
is this so? Are there other 'things' or 'items' that are still on the
h/drive after a complete format/dban?
So much to learn, so little time.)

Format from a W98 boot disk will only see a FAT or FAT32 partition, so it
may appear to clear out the disk, but will leave any NTFS partitions
untouched. This is similar to the issue with FDISK, although at least FDISK
provides an indication that there are partitions that it doesn't recognise
and won't remove. The other utilities mentioned above will ignore
partitioning and simply delete everything.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert Macy" wrote in message
...
On Sep 25, 7:37 am, square/circle wrote:
snip Jeff Richards wrote:

format using thw Win98 boot disk so it cleans all off

Format from a W98 boot disk will only see a FAT or FAT32 partition, so it
may appear to clear out the disk, but will leave any NTFS partitions
untouched. This is similar to the issue with FDISK, although at least FDISK
provides an indication that there are partitions that it doesn't recognise
and won't remove. The other utilities mentioned above will ignore
partitioning and simply delete everything.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert Macy" wrote in message
...
On Sep 25, 7:37 am, square/circle wrote:
snip Jeff Richards wrote:

format using thw Win98 boot disk so it cleans all off

S/C
Geez, have you tried installing new sound card drivers yet?
Buffalo
PS: Perhaps your onboard sound card is bad. Why not re-enable the add on
sound card in the BIOS and re-install the latest drivers for it.
Is your CD player connected to the soundcard?

Hello again Buffalo,,

I have managed to get sound now, but the JBL speakers sound like they
are not even here.
There are no volume controls on them, and the volume and etc are fine
with the computer.
Its as though they need an amp, like the one I use on this
computer(which is an Altec Lansing system with amp built into sub woofer
box).
Does the Mobo of my other one have a built-in amp? I get the usual boot
'voice' telling me that I passed the 'post' test and that 'windows is
now booting etc'. But I am more concerned about playing a music cd,, it
simply sounds like crap. no volume at all, and nowhere to adjust
anything.? I am now wondering if pehaps the speakers were bundled with
an amplifier, but connections and wires dont show that.
I know I got them for free, but, being a name like 'jbl', and being
large stylish speakers, I would have thought I could at least get more
oooooomph out of them than a cats meow.

Thanks for help if you are a audio type.

S/C