Can NOt Drag Icons after a short time of use.

HI.. i am having problems with my Windows 98 system. My
icons seem to not reacte to my draggin them.. When I
reboot it is fine i can move the icons.. and then after a
spell of internet browsing. (using IE6) .. or just
doing normal stuff on my computer ... the icons are unable
to move then.. they seem to be locked..

What is ALSO affected tooo in the same way is the IE
Favourites... i can not drag them either to a specific
order. But then when i reboot they are fine again u for
awhile.. this is happening ALL the time now

I have TWEAKUI but i have tried both witout it and it
still no fix!

Tha AUTOARRANGE is UNCHECKED.. as i said i have to
reboot all the time to fix the problem for a temp fix
then afetr a spell it does it again!

thank you!

JB

That is an unusual symptom so just guessing, I suspect something running in
the background may be causing the problem.

1. Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system problems. I
recommend you download and use the following programs and consider removing
everything these programs identify. Be aware that there are frequent
updates to these programs and you need to check for them before every use.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

CWShredder: http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html (download
link near the bottom)

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

2. If no joy on the above, try:

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192926

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Justin Baker" wrote in message
...
HI.. i am having problems with my Windows 98 system. My
icons seem to not reacte to my draggin them.. When I
reboot it is fine i can move the icons.. and then after a
spell of internet browsing. (using IE6) .. or just
doing normal stuff on my computer ... the icons are unable
to move then.. they seem to be locked..

What is ALSO affected tooo in the same way is the IE
Favourites... i can not drag them either to a specific
order. But then when i reboot they are fine again u for
awhile.. this is happening ALL the time now

I have TWEAKUI but i have tried both witout it and it
still no fix!

Tha AUTOARRANGE is UNCHECKED.. as i said i have to
reboot all the time to fix the problem for a temp fix
then afetr a spell it does it again!

thank you!

JB

Hey Ron!.. thanx for the attmpt.. but thats not he
problem.. i already have done the spyware check and
everything.. i don even have to b on the net to have it
lock up the icons on me.....

Also rebooting seems to FIX the problem... so doing a
clean boot will not tell me what is causing the
problems... the problems seems like it is cause my by
running normal programs or what not. As i say when i
reboot ... the computer is fine.. and i can move icons..
favourites.. etc etc.. .. then i start runnign programs...
seems ok so far.. then after like about hour or so the
icon /favourite draggin problems comes back!

then i have to reboot!.. I know it is an odd problem..
i think it ay have something to do with that TWEAKUI.. i
know i took it off but i seems that maybe that set
soemthing!

Still clueless

JB





-----Original Message-----
That is an unusual symptom so just guessing, I suspect
something running in
the background may be causing the problem.

1. Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system
problems. I
recommend you download and use the following programs and
consider removing
everything these programs identify. Be aware that there
are frequent
updates to these programs and you need to check for them
before every use.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

CWShredder:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html
(download
link near the bottom)

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

2. If no joy on the above, try:

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192926

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Justin Baker" wrote in
message
...
HI.. i am having problems with my Windows 98 system. My
icons seem to not reacte to my draggin them.. When I
reboot it is fine i can move the icons.. and then
after a
spell of internet browsing. (using IE6) .. or just
doing normal stuff on my computer ... the icons are
unable
to move then.. they seem to be locked..

What is ALSO affected tooo in the same way is the IE
Favourites... i can not drag them either to a specific
order. But then when i reboot they are fine again u
for
awhile.. this is happening ALL the time now

I have TWEAKUI but i have tried both witout it and it
still no fix!

Tha AUTOARRANGE is UNCHECKED.. as i said i have to
reboot all the time to fix the problem for a temp fix
then afetr a spell it does it again!

thank you!

JB




.

All TweakUI does is make registry changes--once it is removed, it can no
longer effect the system.

Your problem almost has to be something running in the background since the
problem occurs after the computer has run for a while. I suggest that you
read the clean boot article. I'd start by not loading the start up items
and then see if the problem still occurs. If it does not, you mark half of
the startup items and reboot. If the problem occurs, you know something in
those start up items is the culprit. If it does not occur, remove the marks
from those boxes and mark the remaining boxes. Presumably the problem
should occur and when it does, remove the marks from half the boxes. Reboot
and if the problem still occurs, the culprit is among the boxes still
marked. If not, it is among those you just removed the marks from. You
continue this pattern until the culprit is found.

Of course there are lots of other possibilities and they will be tedious to
troubleshoot but I don't think you are going to find an easy answer. I may
be wrong as I am just making an educated guess as to the root of the
problem.
--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Justin Baker" wrote in message
...
Hey Ron!.. thanx for the attmpt.. but thats not he
problem.. i already have done the spyware check and
everything.. i don even have to b on the net to have it
lock up the icons on me.....

Also rebooting seems to FIX the problem... so doing a
clean boot will not tell me what is causing the
problems... the problems seems like it is cause my by
running normal programs or what not. As i say when i
reboot ... the computer is fine.. and i can move icons..
favourites.. etc etc.. .. then i start runnign programs...
seems ok so far.. then after like about hour or so the
icon /favourite draggin problems comes back!

then i have to reboot!.. I know it is an odd problem..
i think it ay have something to do with that TWEAKUI.. i
know i took it off but i seems that maybe that set
soemthing!

Still clueless

JB





-----Original Message-----
That is an unusual symptom so just guessing, I suspect
something running in
the background may be causing the problem.

1. Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system
problems. I
recommend you download and use the following programs and
consider removing
everything these programs identify. Be aware that there
are frequent
updates to these programs and you need to check for them
before every use.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

CWShredder:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html
(download
link near the bottom)

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

2. If no joy on the above, try:

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192926

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Justin Baker" wrote in
message
...
HI.. i am having problems with my Windows 98 system. My
icons seem to not reacte to my draggin them.. When I
reboot it is fine i can move the icons.. and then
after a
spell of internet browsing. (using IE6) .. or just
doing normal stuff on my computer ... the icons are
unable
to move then.. they seem to be locked..

What is ALSO affected tooo in the same way is the IE
Favourites... i can not drag them either to a specific
order. But then when i reboot they are fine again u
for
awhile.. this is happening ALL the time now

I have TWEAKUI but i have tried both witout it and it
still no fix!

Tha AUTOARRANGE is UNCHECKED.. as i said i have to
reboot all the time to fix the problem for a temp fix
then afetr a spell it does it again!

thank you!

JB




.

Hi Justin,

Here are some possible causes for system Freeze/Lockups
Overheating do to: Dirty of faulty cooling fans. Check the
fan(s) to make sure they are clean and operating.
Faulty or mis-matched memory modules (RAM).
Test the RAM using MemTest.
Memtest86 - Memory Diagnostic Page: http://www.memtest86.com/#download1
Download link for - Pre-Compiled Memtest86 v3.1 installable from Windows and
DOS:
http://www.memtest86.com/memt31.zip

Computer virus. Perform a virus scan with up to date virus software

Try switching RAM sticks if there is more than one
Use one stick, then another. Only one at a time, of course.
If both sticks work alone but will not work when combined, that almost
certainly indicates an incompatibility between the two sticks.
If one stick works but the other does not, then that would indicate the one
that doesn't work is either faulty, will not get along with the other stick,
or is not the correct type for your system.

Other less common causes:
A faulty power supply.
A Faulty or un-grounded household outlet.
Athlon based computer with less than a 300W power supply
Outdated video drive. Download the latest driver from the
manufactures web sit, and install it as per manufactures instructions
Over clocking of the CPU
Incorrect voltage setting on the motherboard
Improperly configured BIOS setting
Loose power connectors or cables

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"Justin Baker" wrote in message
...
Hey Ron!.. thanx for the attmpt.. but thats not he
problem.. i already have done the spyware check and
everything.. i don even have to b on the net to have it
lock up the icons on me.....

Also rebooting seems to FIX the problem... so doing a
clean boot will not tell me what is causing the
problems... the problems seems like it is cause my by
running normal programs or what not. As i say when i
reboot ... the computer is fine.. and i can move icons..
favourites.. etc etc.. .. then i start runnign programs...
seems ok so far.. then after like about hour or so the
icon /favourite draggin problems comes back!

then i have to reboot!.. I know it is an odd problem..
i think it ay have something to do with that TWEAKUI.. i
know i took it off but i seems that maybe that set
soemthing!

Still clueless

JB





-----Original Message-----
That is an unusual symptom so just guessing, I suspect
something running in
the background may be causing the problem.

1. Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system
problems. I
recommend you download and use the following programs and
consider removing
everything these programs identify. Be aware that there
are frequent
updates to these programs and you need to check for them
before every use.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

CWShredder:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html
(download
link near the bottom)

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

2. If no joy on the above, try:

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192926

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Justin Baker" wrote in
message
...
HI.. i am having problems with my Windows 98 system. My
icons seem to not reacte to my draggin them.. When I
reboot it is fine i can move the icons.. and then
after a
spell of internet browsing. (using IE6) .. or just
doing normal stuff on my computer ... the icons are
unable
to move then.. they seem to be locked..

What is ALSO affected tooo in the same way is the IE
Favourites... i can not drag them either to a specific
order. But then when i reboot they are fine again u
for
awhile.. this is happening ALL the time now

I have TWEAKUI but i have tried both witout it and it
still no fix!

Tha AUTOARRANGE is UNCHECKED.. as i said i have to
reboot all the time to fix the problem for a temp fix
then afetr a spell it does it again!

thank you!

JB




.

I am sorry but thats not the problem as i do not freeze
up...or lock up. It is not a hardware problem becuase
everything works fine. the only thing is that the icons
and favourites can not be dragged thats all.. that has
nothing to do with my hardware...cause then if that was
the case i would experience more severe problems..







-----Original Message-----
Hi Justin,

Here are some possible causes for system Freeze/Lockups
Overheating do to: Dirty of faulty cooling fans. Check the
fan(s) to make sure they are clean and operating.
Faulty or mis-matched memory modules (RAM).
Test the RAM using MemTest.
Memtest86 - Memory Diagnostic Page:
http://www.memtest86.com/#download1
Download link for - Pre-Compiled Memtest86 v3.1
installable from Windows and
DOS:
http://www.memtest86.com/memt31.zip

Computer virus. Perform a virus scan with up to date
virus software

Try switching RAM sticks if there is more than one
Use one stick, then another. Only one at a time, of
course.
If both sticks work alone but will not work when
combined, that almost
certainly indicates an incompatibility between the two
sticks.
If one stick works but the other does not, then that
would indicate the one
that doesn't work is either faulty, will not get along
with the other stick,
or is not the correct type for your system.

Other less common causes:
A faulty power supply.
A Faulty or un-grounded household outlet.
Athlon based computer with less than a 300W power supply
Outdated video drive. Download the latest driver from the
manufactures web sit, and install it as per manufactures
instructions
Over clocking of the CPU
Incorrect voltage setting on the motherboard
Improperly configured BIOS setting
Loose power connectors or cables

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"Justin Baker" wrote in message
...
Hey Ron!.. thanx for the attmpt.. but thats not he
problem.. i already have done the spyware check and
everything.. i don even have to b on the net to have it
lock up the icons on me.....

Also rebooting seems to FIX the problem... so doing a
clean boot will not tell me what is causing the
problems... the problems seems like it is cause my by
running normal programs or what not. As i say when i
reboot ... the computer is fine.. and i can move icons..
favourites.. etc etc.. .. then i start runnign
programs...
seems ok so far.. then after like about hour or so the
icon /favourite draggin problems comes back!

then i have to reboot!.. I know it is an odd
problem..
i think it ay have something to do with that TWEAKUI..
i
know i took it off but i seems that maybe that set
soemthing!

Still clueless

JB





-----Original Message-----
That is an unusual symptom so just guessing, I suspect
something running in
the background may be causing the problem.

1. Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system
problems. I
recommend you download and use the following programs
and
consider removing
everything these programs identify. Be aware that
there
are frequent
updates to these programs and you need to check for
them
before every use.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

CWShredder:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html
(download
link near the bottom)

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

2. If no joy on the above, try:

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows
98
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192926

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Justin Baker" wrote in
message
...
HI.. i am having problems with my Windows 98
system. My
icons seem to not reacte to my draggin them.. When I
reboot it is fine i can move the icons.. and then
after a
spell of internet browsing. (using IE6) .. or just
doing normal stuff on my computer ... the icons are
unable
to move then.. they seem to be locked..

What is ALSO affected tooo in the same way is the
IE
Favourites... i can not drag them either to a
specific
order. But then when i reboot they are fine again u
for
awhile.. this is happening ALL the time now

I have TWEAKUI but i have tried both witout it and
it
still no fix!

Tha AUTOARRANGE is UNCHECKED.. as i said i have to
reboot all the time to fix the problem for a temp
fix
then afetr a spell it does it again!

thank you!

JB




.



.

Since you won't look into any of the suggestions people are giving you,
download, unzip, and run Hijack This from one of these locations:
http://computercops.biz/downloads-cat-14.html
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads...HijackThis.exe

Unzip to a folder *other than* your Desktop or the Temp folder.
When the problem you are describing occurs, double-click HijackThis.exe, and hit
"Scan".

When the scan is finished, the "Scan" button will change into a "Save Log"
button.
Press that, save the log somewhere you can find it (Desktop, My Documents, or
similar).
Most of what it lists will be harmless or even required, so do NOT fix anything yet.

Copy the log files and paste them into a new post at:
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30

In your post, please state your problem clearly and what you've done so far to fix
it.

The folks there will tell you what, if anything, to remove.

See the "housekeeping" they ask you to complete before you post your log:
http://aumha.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4075

A tutorial for using Hijack This is located he
http://tomcoyote.com/hjt/
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Justin Baker" wrote in message
...
I am sorry but thats not the problem as i do not freeze
up...or lock up. It is not a hardware problem becuase
everything works fine. the only thing is that the icons
and favourites can not be dragged thats all.. that has
nothing to do with my hardware...cause then if that was
the case i would experience more severe problems..







-----Original Message-----
Hi Justin,

Here are some possible causes for system Freeze/Lockups
Overheating do to: Dirty of faulty cooling fans. Check the
fan(s) to make sure they are clean and operating.
Faulty or mis-matched memory modules (RAM).
Test the RAM using MemTest.
Memtest86 - Memory Diagnostic Page:
http://www.memtest86.com/#download1
Download link for - Pre-Compiled Memtest86 v3.1
installable from Windows and
DOS:
http://www.memtest86.com/memt31.zip

Computer virus. Perform a virus scan with up to date
virus software

Try switching RAM sticks if there is more than one
Use one stick, then another. Only one at a time, of
course.
If both sticks work alone but will not work when
combined, that almost
certainly indicates an incompatibility between the two
sticks.
If one stick works but the other does not, then that
would indicate the one
that doesn't work is either faulty, will not get along
with the other stick,
or is not the correct type for your system.

Other less common causes:
A faulty power supply.
A Faulty or un-grounded household outlet.
Athlon based computer with less than a 300W power supply
Outdated video drive. Download the latest driver from the
manufactures web sit, and install it as per manufactures
instructions
Over clocking of the CPU
Incorrect voltage setting on the motherboard
Improperly configured BIOS setting
Loose power connectors or cables

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"Justin Baker" wrote in message
...
Hey Ron!.. thanx for the attmpt.. but thats not he
problem.. i already have done the spyware check and
everything.. i don even have to b on the net to have it
lock up the icons on me.....

Also rebooting seems to FIX the problem... so doing a
clean boot will not tell me what is causing the
problems... the problems seems like it is cause my by
running normal programs or what not. As i say when i
reboot ... the computer is fine.. and i can move icons..
favourites.. etc etc.. .. then i start runnign
programs...
seems ok so far.. then after like about hour or so the
icon /favourite draggin problems comes back!

then i have to reboot!.. I know it is an odd
problem..
i think it ay have something to do with that TWEAKUI..
i
know i took it off but i seems that maybe that set
soemthing!

Still clueless

JB





-----Original Message-----
That is an unusual symptom so just guessing, I suspect
something running in
the background may be causing the problem.

1. Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system
problems. I
recommend you download and use the following programs
and
consider removing
everything these programs identify. Be aware that
there
are frequent
updates to these programs and you need to check for
them
before every use.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

CWShredder:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html
(download
link near the bottom)

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

2. If no joy on the above, try:

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows
98
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192926

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Justin Baker" wrote in
message
...
HI.. i am having problems with my Windows 98
system. My
icons seem to not reacte to my draggin them.. When I
reboot it is fine i can move the icons.. and then
after a
spell of internet browsing. (using IE6) .. or just
doing normal stuff on my computer ... the icons are
unable
to move then.. they seem to be locked..

What is ALSO affected tooo in the same way is the
IE
Favourites... i can not drag them either to a
specific
order. But then when i reboot they are fine again u
for
awhile.. this is happening ALL the time now

I have TWEAKUI but i have tried both witout it and
it
still no fix!

Tha AUTOARRANGE is UNCHECKED.. as i said i have to
reboot all the time to fix the problem for a temp
fix
then afetr a spell it does it again!

thank you!

JB




.



.

hello... i dont understand why you are sayign i am not
looking into the suggestions people gave? I wouldnt be
on here asking for help if i havent already tried them!
This has been an on going thing for long time.. and I am
getting ideas that lord knows i already tried many
times. So there is no need using sarcasinm against me
as i am only here asking if anyone else has had the same
problem and what they did to fix it .. but i guess i was
wrong.

Second.. if you read my other post.. I ALREADY tried
spyware removal... that was one of the first things i have
done.. so your giving me the same advice other have said
also and i reposted back saying i tried that already...
so thank you anyways!!


I guess I cant get any help here.. cause no one else has
ever had the problem!

Thank you everyone anyways!

JB



-----Original Message-----
Since you won't look into any of the suggestions people
are giving you,
download, unzip, and run Hijack This from one of these
locations:
http://computercops.biz/downloads-cat-14.html
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads...HijackThis.exe

Unzip to a folder *other than* your Desktop or the Temp
folder.
When the problem you are describing occurs, double-click
HijackThis.exe, and hit
"Scan".

When the scan is finished, the "Scan" button will
change into a "Save Log"
button.
Press that, save the log somewhere you can find it
(Desktop, My Documents, or
similar).
Most of what it lists will be harmless or even required,
so do NOT fix anything yet.

Copy the log files and paste them into a new post at:
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30

In your post, please state your problem clearly and what
you've done so far to fix
it.

The folks there will tell you what, if anything, to
remove.

See the "housekeeping" they ask you to complete before
you post your log:
http://aumha.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4075

A tutorial for using Hijack This is located he
http://tomcoyote.com/hjt/
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Justin Baker"
wrote in message
...
I am sorry but thats not the problem as i do not freeze
up...or lock up. It is not a hardware problem becuase
everything works fine. the only thing is that the icons
and favourites can not be dragged thats all.. that has
nothing to do with my hardware...cause then if that was
the case i would experience more severe problems..







-----Original Message-----
Hi Justin,

Here are some possible causes for system Freeze/Lockups
Overheating do to: Dirty of faulty cooling fans. Check
the
fan(s) to make sure they are clean and operating.
Faulty or mis-matched memory modules (RAM).
Test the RAM using MemTest.
Memtest86 - Memory Diagnostic Page:
http://www.memtest86.com/#download1
Download link for - Pre-Compiled Memtest86 v3.1
installable from Windows and
DOS:
http://www.memtest86.com/memt31.zip

Computer virus. Perform a virus scan with up to date
virus software

Try switching RAM sticks if there is more than one
Use one stick, then another. Only one at a time, of
course.
If both sticks work alone but will not work when
combined, that almost
certainly indicates an incompatibility between the two
sticks.
If one stick works but the other does not, then that
would indicate the one
that doesn't work is either faulty, will not get along
with the other stick,
or is not the correct type for your system.

Other less common causes:
A faulty power supply.
A Faulty or un-grounded household outlet.
Athlon based computer with less than a 300W power
supply
Outdated video drive. Download the latest driver from
the
manufactures web sit, and install it as per
manufactures
instructions
Over clocking of the CPU
Incorrect voltage setting on the motherboard
Improperly configured BIOS setting
Loose power connectors or cables

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"Justin Baker" wrote in message
...
Hey Ron!.. thanx for the attmpt.. but thats not he
problem.. i already have done the spyware check and
everything.. i don even have to b on the net to
have it
lock up the icons on me.....

Also rebooting seems to FIX the problem... so doing
a
clean boot will not tell me what is causing the
problems... the problems seems like it is cause my
by
running normal programs or what not. As i say when
i
reboot ... the computer is fine.. and i can move
icons..
favourites.. etc etc.. .. then i start runnign
programs...
seems ok so far.. then after like about hour or so
the
icon /favourite draggin problems comes back!

then i have to reboot!.. I know it is an odd
problem..
i think it ay have something to do with that
TWEAKUI..
i
know i took it off but i seems that maybe that set
soemthing!

Still clueless

JB





-----Original Message-----
That is an unusual symptom so just guessing, I
suspect
something running in
the background may be causing the problem.

1. Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous
system
problems. I
recommend you download and use the following
programs
and
consider removing
everything these programs identify. Be aware that
there
are frequent
updates to these programs and you need to check for
them
before every use.

AdAwa
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

CWShredder:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html
(download
link near the bottom)

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

2. If no joy on the above, try:

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for
Windows
98
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192926

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Justin Baker" wrote
in
message
...
HI.. i am having problems with my Windows 98
system. My
icons seem to not reacte to my draggin them..
When I
reboot it is fine i can move the icons.. and then
after a
spell of internet browsing. (using IE6) .. or
just
doing normal stuff on my computer ... the icons
are
unable
to move then.. they seem to be locked..

What is ALSO affected tooo in the same way is the
IE
Favourites... i can not drag them either to a
specific
order. But then when i reboot they are fine
again u
for
awhile.. this is happening ALL the time now

I have TWEAKUI but i have tried both witout it
and
it
still no fix!

Tha AUTOARRANGE is UNCHECKED.. as i said i have
to
reboot all the time to fix the problem for a temp
fix
then afetr a spell it does it again!

thank you!

JB




.



.


.

Bert suggested looking into some hardware problems and you said it wasn't a hardware
problem, giving no indication that you have checked for overheating, dirt-clogging,
or tested the RAM. The fact that it does not freeze doe *not* preclude hardware
problems.

In your reply to Ron malware, you state only that you "have done a spyware
check". I have read that same statement countless times, and there was still
enormous amounts of malware on the machine in question. You did not indicate in any
way exactly how you did your spyware check, using what applications, and whether
they were updated prior to testing.

I gave you links to use Hijack This in order to more completely check for malware.
Nowhere do you mention having followed that procedure, nor what the replies were
from the forum where you posted the logs. Checking for malware without using Hijack
This and having the log looked at by experts, is *not* doing a complete check.

I was not at all being sarcastic, and it is too bad you chose to take it that way.
Every one of your replies has been "no, that's not it" but you give little or no
feedback into exactly what you tried and what the results were.....hence my
statement. You brushed off Bert's suggestions without any indication that you
looked into the hardware angle.

I suggest you do a Google search on failure to drag icons, if you do not like the
replies you are getting here. The problem has been encountered before in
variations. We are trying to help you and to eliminate possibilities. We have no
idea what you have tried or done already, unless you give details and your results.

What hardware testing or observation have you actually done, exactly?
What methods and apps did you use to check for malware?
Have you run Hijack this and posted the log to a spyware forum?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Justin Baker" wrote in message
...
hello... i dont understand why you are sayign i am not
looking into the suggestions people gave? I wouldnt be
on here asking for help if i havent already tried them!
This has been an on going thing for long time.. and I am
getting ideas that lord knows i already tried many
times. So there is no need using sarcasinm against me
as i am only here asking if anyone else has had the same
problem and what they did to fix it .. but i guess i was
wrong.

Second.. if you read my other post.. I ALREADY tried
spyware removal... that was one of the first things i have
done.. so your giving me the same advice other have said
also and i reposted back saying i tried that already...
so thank you anyways!!


I guess I cant get any help here.. cause no one else has
ever had the problem!

Thank you everyone anyways!

JB



-----Original Message-----
Since you won't look into any of the suggestions people
are giving you,
download, unzip, and run Hijack This from one of these
locations:
http://computercops.biz/downloads-cat-14.html
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads...HijackThis.exe

Unzip to a folder *other than* your Desktop or the Temp
folder.
When the problem you are describing occurs, double-click
HijackThis.exe, and hit
"Scan".

When the scan is finished, the "Scan" button will
change into a "Save Log"
button.
Press that, save the log somewhere you can find it
(Desktop, My Documents, or
similar).
Most of what it lists will be harmless or even required,
so do NOT fix anything yet.

Copy the log files and paste them into a new post at:
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30

In your post, please state your problem clearly and what
you've done so far to fix
it.

The folks there will tell you what, if anything, to
remove.

See the "housekeeping" they ask you to complete before
you post your log:
http://aumha.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4075

A tutorial for using Hijack This is located he
http://tomcoyote.com/hjt/
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Justin Baker"
wrote in message
...
I am sorry but thats not the problem as i do not freeze
up...or lock up. It is not a hardware problem becuase
everything works fine. the only thing is that the icons
and favourites can not be dragged thats all.. that has
nothing to do with my hardware...cause then if that was
the case i would experience more severe problems..







-----Original Message-----
Hi Justin,

Here are some possible causes for system Freeze/Lockups
Overheating do to: Dirty of faulty cooling fans. Check
the
fan(s) to make sure they are clean and operating.
Faulty or mis-matched memory modules (RAM).
Test the RAM using MemTest.
Memtest86 - Memory Diagnostic Page:
http://www.memtest86.com/#download1
Download link for - Pre-Compiled Memtest86 v3.1
installable from Windows and
DOS:
http://www.memtest86.com/memt31.zip

Computer virus. Perform a virus scan with up to date
virus software

Try switching RAM sticks if there is more than one
Use one stick, then another. Only one at a time, of
course.
If both sticks work alone but will not work when
combined, that almost
certainly indicates an incompatibility between the two
sticks.
If one stick works but the other does not, then that
would indicate the one
that doesn't work is either faulty, will not get along
with the other stick,
or is not the correct type for your system.

Other less common causes:
A faulty power supply.
A Faulty or un-grounded household outlet.
Athlon based computer with less than a 300W power
supply
Outdated video drive. Download the latest driver from
the
manufactures web sit, and install it as per
manufactures
instructions
Over clocking of the CPU
Incorrect voltage setting on the motherboard
Improperly configured BIOS setting
Loose power connectors or cables

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"Justin Baker" wrote in message
...
Hey Ron!.. thanx for the attmpt.. but thats not he
problem.. i already have done the spyware check and
everything.. i don even have to b on the net to
have it
lock up the icons on me.....

Also rebooting seems to FIX the problem... so doing
a
clean boot will not tell me what is causing the
problems... the problems seems like it is cause my
by
running normal programs or what not. As i say when
i
reboot ... the computer is fine.. and i can move
icons..
favourites.. etc etc.. .. then i start runnign
programs...
seems ok so far.. then after like about hour or so
the
icon /favourite draggin problems comes back!

then i have to reboot!.. I know it is an odd
problem..
i think it ay have something to do with that
TWEAKUI..
i
know i took it off but i seems that maybe that set
soemthing!

Still clueless

JB





-----Original Message-----
That is an unusual symptom so just guessing, I
suspect
something running in
the background may be causing the problem.

1. Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous
system
problems. I
recommend you download and use the following
programs
and
consider removing
everything these programs identify. Be aware that
there
are frequent
updates to these programs and you need to check for
them
before every use.

AdAwa
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

CWShredder:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html
(download
link near the bottom)

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

2. If no joy on the above, try:

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for
Windows
98
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192926

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Justin Baker" wrote
in
message
...
HI.. i am having problems with my Windows 98
system. My
icons seem to not reacte to my draggin them..
When I
reboot it is fine i can move the icons.. and then
after a
spell of internet browsing. (using IE6) .. or
just
doing normal stuff on my computer ... the icons
are
unable
to move then.. they seem to be locked..

What is ALSO affected tooo in the same way is the
IE
Favourites... i can not drag them either to a
specific
order. But then when i reboot they are fine
again u
for
awhile.. this is happening ALL the time now

I have TWEAKUI but i have tried both witout it
and
it
still no fix!

Tha AUTOARRANGE is UNCHECKED.. as i said i have
to
reboot all the time to fix the problem for a temp
fix
then afetr a spell it does it again!

thank you!

JB




.



.


.

Your assuming that i am a total inexperinced person on a
computer... that i am a complete NEWBIE.. and all i am
getting is advice that you might give to someone that has
no clue..... it is a wonder i wasnt adviced to get a whole
new computer.. or maybe switch to a different desk lamp!

Well as I told you in my previous post to your LINKS to
Hijackthis...aprrently you did not read my posts closely..
and like to your use your little copy and paste
templates of support...

SO let me tell you AGAIN.. i tried that program.. ok?!?!
do you understand me now?!?!.. i have tried it.. your not
talking to a newbie... and it did NOT fix my problem. The
problem is NOT hardware either... you dont think i know
how to make diagnistic tests on on my own system?!?
AGAIN i am NOT a newbie.


This is JUST a problem i FOUND odd.. that i ran across
and i thought i would come here to see if anyone ELSE had
the same problem...and all i get was newbie advice.. when
in turn you all have NO CLUE either what is the fix..
cause you never had the problem before..

if you never had the problem before.. then you should not
be giving advice on how to fix it... as like i am not a
mechanic you dont see me telling you how to fix your
car!!

sorry i came here.. i thought this place was more sensible
than that.. but heck.. i am wrong.. Your the SO called
EXPERTS... i forgot... i am just a newbie!



-----Original Message-----
Bert suggested looking into some hardware problems and
you said it wasn't a hardware
problem, giving no indication that you have checked for
overheating, dirt-clogging,
or tested the RAM. The fact that it does not freeze doe
*not* preclude hardware
problems.

In your reply to Ron malware, you state only that
you "have done a spyware
check". I have read that same statement countless times,
and there was still
enormous amounts of malware on the machine in question.
You did not indicate in any
way exactly how you did your spyware check, using what
applications, and whether
they were updated prior to testing.

I gave you links to use Hijack This in order to more
completely check for malware.
Nowhere do you mention having followed that procedure,
nor what the replies were
from the forum where you posted the logs. Checking for
malware without using Hijack
This and having the log looked at by experts, is *not*
doing a complete check.

I was not at all being sarcastic, and it is too bad you
chose to take it that way.
Every one of your replies has been "no, that's not it"
but you give little or no
feedback into exactly what you tried and what the results
were.....hence my
statement. You brushed off Bert's suggestions without
any indication that you
looked into the hardware angle.

I suggest you do a Google search on failure to drag
icons, if you do not like the
replies you are getting here. The problem has been
encountered before in
variations. We are trying to help you and to eliminate
possibilities. We have no
idea what you have tried or done already, unless you give
details and your results.

What hardware testing or observation have you actually
done, exactly?
What methods and apps did you use to check for malware?
Have you run Hijack this and posted the log to a spyware
forum?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Justin Baker"
wrote in message
...
hello... i dont understand why you are sayign i am not
looking into the suggestions people gave? I wouldnt be
on here asking for help if i havent already tried them!
This has been an on going thing for long time.. and I am
getting ideas that lord knows i already tried many
times. So there is no need using sarcasinm against me
as i am only here asking if anyone else has had the same
problem and what they did to fix it .. but i guess i was
wrong.

Second.. if you read my other post.. I ALREADY tried
spyware removal... that was one of the first things i
have
done.. so your giving me the same advice other have
said
also and i reposted back saying i tried that
already...
so thank you anyways!!


I guess I cant get any help here.. cause no one else
has
ever had the problem!

Thank you everyone anyways!

JB



-----Original Message-----
Since you won't look into any of the suggestions people
are giving you,
download, unzip, and run Hijack This from one of these
locations:
http://computercops.biz/downloads-cat-14.html
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html

http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads...HijackThis.exe

Unzip to a folder *other than* your Desktop or the Temp
folder.
When the problem you are describing occurs, double-
click
HijackThis.exe, and hit
"Scan".

When the scan is finished, the "Scan" button will
change into a "Save Log"
button.
Press that, save the log somewhere you can find it
(Desktop, My Documents, or
similar).
Most of what it lists will be harmless or even
required,
so do NOT fix anything yet.

Copy the log files and paste them into a new post at:
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30

In your post, please state your problem clearly and
what
you've done so far to fix
it.

The folks there will tell you what, if anything, to
remove.

See the "housekeeping" they ask you to complete before
you post your log:
http://aumha.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4075

A tutorial for using Hijack This is located he
http://tomcoyote.com/hjt/
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Justin Baker"
wrote in message
...
I am sorry but thats not the problem as i do not
freeze
up...or lock up. It is not a hardware problem becuase
everything works fine. the only thing is that the
icons
and favourites can not be dragged thats all.. that
has
nothing to do with my hardware...cause then if that
was
the case i would experience more severe problems..







-----Original Message-----
Hi Justin,

Here are some possible causes for system
Freeze/Lockups
Overheating do to: Dirty of faulty cooling fans.
Check
the
fan(s) to make sure they are clean and operating.
Faulty or mis-matched memory modules (RAM).
Test the RAM using MemTest.
Memtest86 - Memory Diagnostic Page:
http://www.memtest86.com/#download1
Download link for - Pre-Compiled Memtest86 v3.1
installable from Windows and
DOS:
http://www.memtest86.com/memt31.zip

Computer virus. Perform a virus scan with up to date
virus software

Try switching RAM sticks if there is more than one
Use one stick, then another. Only one at a time, of
course.
If both sticks work alone but will not work when
combined, that almost
certainly indicates an incompatibility between the
two
sticks.
If one stick works but the other does not, then that
would indicate the one
that doesn't work is either faulty, will not get
along
with the other stick,
or is not the correct type for your system.

Other less common causes:
A faulty power supply.
A Faulty or un-grounded household outlet.
Athlon based computer with less than a 300W power
supply
Outdated video drive. Download the latest driver
from
the
manufactures web sit, and install it as per
manufactures
instructions
Over clocking of the CPU
Incorrect voltage setting on the motherboard
Improperly configured BIOS setting
Loose power connectors or cables

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
kbid=171164

"Justin Baker" wrote in message
...
Hey Ron!.. thanx for the attmpt.. but thats not he
problem.. i already have done the spyware check
and
everything.. i don even have to b on the net to
have it
lock up the icons on me.....

Also rebooting seems to FIX the problem... so
doing
a
clean boot will not tell me what is causing the
problems... the problems seems like it is cause
my
by
running normal programs or what not. As i say
when
i
reboot ... the computer is fine.. and i can move
icons..
favourites.. etc etc.. .. then i start runnign
programs...
seems ok so far.. then after like about hour or
so
the
icon /favourite draggin problems comes back!

then i have to reboot!.. I know it is an odd
problem..
i think it ay have something to do with that
TWEAKUI..
i
know i took it off but i seems that maybe that set
soemthing!

Still clueless

JB





-----Original Message-----
That is an unusual symptom so just guessing, I
suspect
something running in
the background may be causing the problem.

1. Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous
system
problems. I
recommend you download and use the following
programs
and
consider removing
everything these programs identify. Be aware
that
there
are frequent
updates to these programs and you need to check
for
them
before every use.

AdAwa
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

CWShredder:

http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html
(download
link near the bottom)

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

2. If no joy on the above, try:

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for
Windows
98
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192926

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
pr=kbinfo

"Justin Baker"
wrote
in
message
...
HI.. i am having problems with my Windows 98
system. My
icons seem to not reacte to my draggin them..
When I
reboot it is fine i can move the icons.. and
then
after a
spell of internet browsing. (using IE6) ..
or
just
doing normal stuff on my computer ... the icons
are
unable
to move then.. they seem to be locked..

What is ALSO affected tooo in the same way is
the
IE
Favourites... i can not drag them either to a
specific
order. But then when i reboot they are fine
again u
for
awhile.. this is happening ALL the time now

I have TWEAKUI but i have tried both witout it
and
it
still no fix!

Tha AUTOARRANGE is UNCHECKED.. as i said i
have
to
reboot all the time to fix the problem for a
temp
fix
then afetr a spell it does it again!

thank you!

JB




.



.


.


.