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Nice story Rocky
Best wishes to all from here, too. Mart "webster72n" wrote in message ... "RockyTSquirrel" wrote in message ... well as long as my RF convert still works and my ole trusty B&W tv can handle the video feed from my VIC-20, I'll be a happy camper.. my hand written OS using 2k mem. works just fine.. so long as the cassette deck rubber band don't break I can get by.. Now i will confess I did loss a neighbor last spring when our tin can telephone string broke between our houses, but he was beginning to become a pain anyway.. and spam don't bother me neither cause I just add a little more bacon grease and the flavor comes right on through.. now viruses can be a problem but the ole moon shine taken in large swigs will make the hurt more bearable.. now i'm not too sure whats all the fuss about 32 or 64 bit something or other my 8 bit works just fine, seeing how i only got 8 fingers and 2 thumbs to count with anywho... I do like those funny microsoft/apple commercials on the B&W TV.. you know the ones where that funny guy in the suit remembers all the good times, when he wanted everybody to just trust him.. so before my virus treatment kicks in just let me say Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everybody on the News Group.. That's the spirit, Rocky. Allow me to thankfully return those merry and happy wishes for Christmas and the New Year. Make sure to listen to the doctor about the virus treatment and not overdo it. Take care, Harry. Rocky T. Squirrel, esq. Mountain Country USA "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... Crikey is it that many years since release, how times fly when you're having fun g John's using Avast on the XP machine, I have NOD32 installed on my Vista partition but I've not really booted back into that one since installing Windows 7 on another partition in October and I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials on that OS with no problems. As it's working out well it means I can avoid renewing NOD32 in June. Not sure how long the XP machine will be in use but if Avast stopped for that one I could put MSE on there as well. -- Joan Archer http://www,freewebs.com/crossstitcher "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP. I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite, in order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64, as well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large sums of money to make software compatible with such different OS's - and the income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines running Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes vastly uneconomic to support the limited number of users remaining. That point was probably reached some time ago - and Avast should be thanked for their support since then, rather than castigated as penny-pinchers. Win2k will be the next to go - in 2011. I suspect that Win XP AV support will finally die around 2015 (or maybe earlier). The interesting question is when Win32 support will end completely - both in the OS and in AV. From my perspective, MS should bite the bullet, and end Win32 OS's with Win7 - The majority of new machines here in the UK seem to be configured as Win64 already, and this process is accelerating. What may eventually happen is that XP comes bundled as standard as a VM for running Win32 apps - but unsupported. We've already seen the beginnings of this with 'XP Mode' availability in some Win7 versions. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "webster72n" wrote in message ... "Mike M" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Corday: They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'. What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year. Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this is a surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win 9x customers well in advance of this change. I totally agree with you, Mike and that's exactly what I meant. People don't seem to matter any more in this new world of ours, it is business only which counts, especially in our neck of the woods. Very sad, I must say. H. -- Mike M |
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thank you thank you
and to all a good nite.. ;-) "webster72n" wrote in message ... "RockyTSquirrel" wrote in message ... well as long as my RF convert still works and my ole trusty B&W tv can handle the video feed from my VIC-20, I'll be a happy camper.. my hand written OS using 2k mem. works just fine.. so long as the cassette deck rubber band don't break I can get by.. Now i will confess I did loss a neighbor last spring when our tin can telephone string broke between our houses, but he was beginning to become a pain anyway.. and spam don't bother me neither cause I just add a little more bacon grease and the flavor comes right on through.. now viruses can be a problem but the ole moon shine taken in large swigs will make the hurt more bearable.. now i'm not too sure whats all the fuss about 32 or 64 bit something or other my 8 bit works just fine, seeing how i only got 8 fingers and 2 thumbs to count with anywho... I do like those funny microsoft/apple commercials on the B&W TV.. you know the ones where that funny guy in the suit remembers all the good times, when he wanted everybody to just trust him.. so before my virus treatment kicks in just let me say Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everybody on the News Group.. That's the spirit, Rocky. Allow me to thankfully return those merry and happy wishes for Christmas and the New Year. Make sure to listen to the doctor about the virus treatment and not overdo it. Take care, Harry. Rocky T. Squirrel, esq. Mountain Country USA "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... Crikey is it that many years since release, how times fly when you're having fun g John's using Avast on the XP machine, I have NOD32 installed on my Vista partition but I've not really booted back into that one since installing Windows 7 on another partition in October and I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials on that OS with no problems. As it's working out well it means I can avoid renewing NOD32 in June. Not sure how long the XP machine will be in use but if Avast stopped for that one I could put MSE on there as well. -- Joan Archer http://www,freewebs.com/crossstitcher "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP. I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite, in order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64, as well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large sums of money to make software compatible with such different S's - and the income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines running Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes vastly uneconomic to support the limited number of users remaining. That point was probably reached some time ago - and Avast should be thanked for their support since then, rather than castigated as penny-pinchers. Win2k will be the next to go - in 2011. I suspect that Win XP AV support will finally die around 2015 (or maybe earlier). The interesting question is when Win32 support will end completely - both in the OS and in AV. From my perspective, MS should bite the bullet, and end Win32 OS's with Win7 - The majority of new machines here in the UK seem to be configured as Win64 already, and this process is accelerating. What may eventually happen is that XP comes bundled as standard as a VM for running Win32 apps - but unsupported. We've already seen the beginnings of this with 'XP Mode' availability in some Win7 versions. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "webster72n" wrote in message ... "Mike M" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Corday: They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'. What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year. Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this is a surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win 9x customers well in advance of this change. I totally agree with you, Mike and that's exactly what I meant. People don't seem to matter any more in this new world of ours, it is business only which counts, especially in our neck of the woods. Very sad, I must say. H. -- Mike M |
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Nice one Rocky, are you using oil or candle to light your little log cabin
g I'll return the wishes and say to all who still come and visit now and then A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone. Love to you all. -- Joan Archer http://www,freewebs.com/crossstitcher "RockyTSquirrel" wrote in message ... well as long as my RF convert still works and my ole trusty B&W tv can handle the video feed from my VIC-20, I'll be a happy camper.. my hand written OS using 2k mem. works just fine.. so long as the cassette deck rubber band don't break I can get by.. Now i will confess I did loss a neighbor last spring when our tin can telephone string broke between our houses, but he was beginning to become a pain anyway.. and spam don't bother me neither cause I just add a little more bacon grease and the flavor comes right on through.. now viruses can be a problem but the ole moon shine taken in large swigs will make the hurt more bearable.. now i'm not too sure whats all the fuss about 32 or 64 bit something or other my 8 bit works just fine, seeing how i only got 8 fingers and 2 thumbs to count with anywho... I do like those funny microsoft/apple commercials on the B&W TV.. you know the ones where that funny guy in the suit remembers all the good times, when he wanted everybody to just trust him.. so before my virus treatment kicks in just let me say Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everybody on the News Group.. Rocky T. Squirrel, esq. Mountain Country USA "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... Crikey is it that many years since release, how times fly when you're having fun g John's using Avast on the XP machine, I have NOD32 installed on my Vista partition but I've not really booted back into that one since installing Windows 7 on another partition in October and I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials on that OS with no problems. As it's working out well it means I can avoid renewing NOD32 in June. Not sure how long the XP machine will be in use but if Avast stopped for that one I could put MSE on there as well. -- Joan Archer http://www,freewebs.com/crossstitcher "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP. I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite, in order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64, as well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large sums of money to make software compatible with such different OS's - and the income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines running Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes vastly uneconomic to support the limited number of users remaining. That point was probably reached some time ago - and Avast should be thanked for their support since then, rather than castigated as penny-pinchers. Win2k will be the next to go - in 2011. I suspect that Win XP AV support will finally die around 2015 (or maybe earlier). The interesting question is when Win32 support will end completely - both in the OS and in AV. From my perspective, MS should bite the bullet, and end Win32 OS's with Win7 - The majority of new machines here in the UK seem to be configured as Win64 already, and this process is accelerating. What may eventually happen is that XP comes bundled as standard as a VM for running Win32 apps - but unsupported. We've already seen the beginnings of this with 'XP Mode' availability in some Win7 versions. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "webster72n" wrote in message ... "Mike M" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Corday: They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'. What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year. Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this is a surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win 9x customers well in advance of this change. I totally agree with you, Mike and that's exactly what I meant. People don't seem to matter any more in this new world of ours, it is business only which counts, especially in our neck of the woods. Very sad, I must say. H. -- Mike M |
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Well now Joan, were on the hill, we got 2 I said 2 twenty-five watt
light bulbs... ;-) and next year I hope to get another socket for the second one.. "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... Nice one Rocky, are you using oil or candle to light your little log cabin g I'll return the wishes and say to all who still come and visit now and then A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone. Love to you all. -- Joan Archer http://www,freewebs.com/crossstitcher "RockyTSquirrel" wrote in message ... well as long as my RF convert still works and my ole trusty B&W tv can handle the video feed from my VIC-20, I'll be a happy camper.. my hand written OS using 2k mem. works just fine.. so long as the cassette deck rubber band don't break I can get by.. Now i will confess I did loss a neighbor last spring when our tin can telephone string broke between our houses, but he was beginning to become a pain anyway.. and spam don't bother me neither cause I just add a little more bacon grease and the flavor comes right on through.. now viruses can be a problem but the ole moon shine taken in large swigs will make the hurt more bearable.. now i'm not too sure whats all the fuss about 32 or 64 bit something or other my 8 bit works just fine, seeing how i only got 8 fingers and 2 thumbs to count with anywho... I do like those funny microsoft/apple commercials on the B&W TV.. you know the ones where that funny guy in the suit remembers all the good times, when he wanted everybody to just trust him.. so before my virus treatment kicks in just let me say Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everybody on the News Group.. Rocky T. Squirrel, esq. Mountain Country USA "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... Crikey is it that many years since release, how times fly when you're having fun g John's using Avast on the XP machine, I have NOD32 installed on my Vista partition but I've not really booted back into that one since installing Windows 7 on another partition in October and I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials on that OS with no problems. As it's working out well it means I can avoid renewing NOD32 in June. Not sure how long the XP machine will be in use but if Avast stopped for that one I could put MSE on there as well. -- Joan Archer http://www,freewebs.com/crossstitcher "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP. I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite, in order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64, as well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large sums of money to make software compatible with such different S's - and the income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines running Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes vastly uneconomic to support the limited number of users remaining. That point was probably reached some time ago - and Avast should be thanked for their support since then, rather than castigated as penny-pinchers. Win2k will be the next to go - in 2011. I suspect that Win XP AV support will finally die around 2015 (or maybe earlier). The interesting question is when Win32 support will end completely - both in the OS and in AV. From my perspective, MS should bite the bullet, and end Win32 OS's with Win7 - The majority of new machines here in the UK seem to be configured as Win64 already, and this process is accelerating. What may eventually happen is that XP comes bundled as standard as a VM for running Win32 apps - but unsupported. We've already seen the beginnings of this with 'XP Mode' availability in some Win7 versions. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "webster72n" wrote in message ... "Mike M" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Corday: They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'. What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year. Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this is a surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win 9x customers well in advance of this change. I totally agree with you, Mike and that's exactly what I meant. People don't seem to matter any more in this new world of ours, it is business only which counts, especially in our neck of the woods. Very sad, I must say. H. -- Mike M |
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Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but avast 5.0
still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between). -- I mastered Wordstar graphics! "Noel Paton" wrote: It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP. I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite, in order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64, as well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large sums of money to make software compatible with such different OS's - and the income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines running Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes vastly uneconomic to support the limited number of users remaining. That point was probably reached some time ago - and Avast should be thanked for their support since then, rather than castigated as penny-pinchers. Win2k will be the next to go - in 2011. I suspect that Win XP AV support will finally die around 2015 (or maybe earlier). The interesting question is when Win32 support will end completely - both in the OS and in AV. From my perspective, MS should bite the bullet, and end Win32 OS's with Win7 - The majority of new machines here in the UK seem to be configured as Win64 already, and this process is accelerating. What may eventually happen is that XP comes bundled as standard as a VM for running Win32 apps - but unsupported. We've already seen the beginnings of this with 'XP Mode' availability in some Win7 versions. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "webster72n" wrote in message ... "Mike M" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Corday: They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'. What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year. Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this is a surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win 9x customers well in advance of this change. I totally agree with you, Mike and that's exactly what I meant. People don't seem to matter any more in this new world of ours, it is business only which counts, especially in our neck of the woods. Very sad, I must say. H. -- Mike M . |
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Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but
avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the increased memory demands that result from application and os bloat. :-) -- Mike M Corday wrote: Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between). |
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Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months ago now.
Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64 beta(s) were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what finally drove me back to x86. Shane Mike M wrote: Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the increased memory demands that result from application and os bloat. :-) Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between). |
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Depends on your definition of 'support' I guess, Noel. I can't see the likes
of Eset dropping XP support as soon as 2014/15. Indeed you can still download NOD32 v2.7 for 9x (which even still runs in Win 95B!). NT NOD32 v2 can be easily run as a standalone scanner, for instance on BartPE and thumbdrives, though nod32.exe, amon.sys et al haven't been updated since last Feb though the defs still are. Not sure if the implication is they're no longer providing program updates for v2.7 but no reason yet to assume that is the case. I guess that users who keep running Me will want to avoid the outlay on a more recent machine. In which case paying for AV while not ideal is certainly the cheaper alternative. The point being that just because the free ones will no longer support 9x, doesn't mean no AV will. AB Noel Paton wrote: It's now 8 years since Win9x became obsolete with the release of XP. I suspect that the engine that Avast uses is having a drastic rewrite, in order to cope with Win 7 and beyond, and the cost of coding for Win64, as well as Win32 has meant that the older Win9x has to go. It costs large sums of money to make software compatible with such different OS's - and the income streams for Win 9x are getting smaller every day as machines running Win9x die or are simply replaced. At some point it becomes vastly uneconomic to support the limited number of users remaining. That point was probably reached some time ago - and Avast should be thanked for their support since then, rather than castigated as penny-pinchers. Win2k will be the next to go - in 2011. I suspect that Win XP AV support will finally die around 2015 (or maybe earlier). The interesting question is when Win32 support will end completely - both in the OS and in AV. From my perspective, MS should bite the bullet, and end Win32 OS's with Win7 - The majority of new machines here in the UK seem to be configured as Win64 already, and this process is accelerating. What may eventually happen is that XP comes bundled as standard as a VM for running Win32 apps - but unsupported. We've already seen the beginnings of this with 'XP Mode' availability in some Win7 versions. Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "webster72n" wrote in message ... "Mike M" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Corday: They must have grown tired of supplying the free version for 'us'. What do you mean? Avast! are saying that whether you wish to pay or not their support for Win 9x systems finishes at the end of this year. Something that has been known now for many months. It's not that this is a surprise, Avast! have at least had the courtesy to warn their Win 9x customers well in advance of this change. I totally agree with you, Mike and that's exactly what I meant. People don't seem to matter any more in this new world of ours, it is business only which counts, especially in our neck of the woods. Very sad, I must say. H. -- Mike M |
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TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!!
Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been?? Kissies......Figgs "Tarquin T. Shuttlecock" wrote in message ... Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64 beta(s) were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what finally drove me back to x86. Shane Mike M wrote: Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the increased memory demands that result from application and os bloat. :-) Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between). |
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Heather wrote:
TARQUIN T SHUTTLECOCK????? ROFL!! Merry Xmas, Shane.......where have you been?? Until very recently heading Ubuntu. That or it was just a dream! Merry Xmas Figgsy! XX Shane There're one or two footballers called Figueroa over here these days. Probably no relation though, eh? Kissies......Figgs "Tarquin T. Shuttlecock" wrote in message ... Yes, Mike, I stopped bothering to run 64-bit versions some months ago now. Funnily enough it seemed to me that Server 2008 x64 beta(s) were less memory intensive than Win 7 x64, which is what finally drove me back to x86. Shane Mike M wrote: Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. That's something I've never felt the need to do so not something I'll miss. As to running 64 bit, although I have PCs running both Vista 64 and Win 7 64 I have yet to find a compelling reason to running 64 bit rather than 32 bit other than perhaps due to the increased memory demands that result from application and os bloat. :-) Avast might be on target by getting rid of support for old OSs, but avast 5.0 still can't do a boot-time scan on 64 bit machines. Kind of reminds me of the song (Mr. In-between). |
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