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  #11  
Old October 18th 08, 11:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
skibuz
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 36
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and it
still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and Internet
Explorer.

Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the IP/subnet
mask have been changed.

Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that what it
should be?

Thanks!
Martha

"MEB" wrote:


"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| MEB,
| Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
| addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have. I
| have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a Vista Laptop
| (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired (if
I
| can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled for
SPI
| Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which has a
| firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE computer
was
| connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the Win 98
| reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is only
| after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings correct to
| connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on the
| Network.
|
| On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| DNS Configuration Disabled
| Gateway Blank
| WINS Configuration Disabled
| IP Address Obtain automatically
| Bindings to:
| Client for Microsoft Networks
| File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| Microsoft Family Logon
|
| Advanced Tab
| Allow binding to ATM Yes
| Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
|
| My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| Binding to:
| 3COM Diagnostic
| NetBEUI
| TCP/IP
|
| Advanced tab:
| APM Wake Up Enabled
| Early Tx Threshold 10
| Link speed/duplex Auto
| Link Wake up Enable
| IP not present
|
| Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0

Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired, try making
it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already used}.
Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this to the
manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet 255.255.255.0.
See if this works.

|
| In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
connected
| to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
|
| I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
192.168.5.1
| with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However this
| didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
|
| I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
| Martha
|


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and
98
| computer and start from scratch.
|
| HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
XP/VISTA/other
| box{es} up.
| First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP
range
| for the local network is included and what its range is.
| Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| connection/device from the network].
| THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND
that
| the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
| protocol.
| Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
| server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings] to
| receive from the network.
| Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked
the
| above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
| controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
| modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is
found.
| IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
| Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping
returning
| address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
disabled
| apps].
|
| Check here for other ideas:
| http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm
|
| Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
| Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| news | | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded
Win
| 98.
| | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via
Ethernet
| | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and
play.
| | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload.
Now
| I
| | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
| | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
| | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
| |
| | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this
connected,
| I
| | would be very greatful!
| | Thank you!
|
|
|




  #12  
Old October 19th 08, 04:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,626
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and
it
| still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and Internet
| Explorer.

Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping worked.
Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN settings].
{Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}

|
| Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the IP/subnet
| mask have been changed.
|
| Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that what
it
| should be?
|
| Thanks!
| Martha

IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to refresh/find
the network if available];
AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut it off;
AND checked the browsers;
AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
- THEN -

Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD somewhere
like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices [modem,
netcard, etc]

Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI was
unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
Shutdown -
Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
go to Network
re-check everything,
make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the *adapter's* TCP/IP
settings.
Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain automatically]. Save,
It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.

Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get "More Info".
SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously posted.
Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a text
file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.

Should look something like this:
Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | MEB,
| | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
| | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have.
I
| | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a Vista
Laptop
| | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired
(if
| I
| | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled
for
| SPI
| | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which
has a
| | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
computer
| was
| | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the
Win 98
| | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is
only
| | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings
correct to
| | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on
the
| | Network.
| |
| | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | Gateway Blank
| | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | Bindings to:
| | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | Microsoft Family Logon
| |
| | Advanced Tab
| | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| |
| | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| | Binding to:
| | 3COM Diagnostic
| | NetBEUI
| | TCP/IP
| |
| | Advanced tab:
| | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | Link Wake up Enable
| | IP not present
| |
| | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
|
| Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired, try
making
| it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already
used}.
| Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this to
the
| manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet 255.255.255.0.
| See if this works.
|
| |
| | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
| connected
| | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
| |
| | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
| 192.168.5.1
| | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However
this
| | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
| |
| | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
| | Martha
| |
|
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| | It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP
and
| 98
| | computer and start from scratch.
| |
| | HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
| XP/VISTA/other
| | box{es} up.
| | First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP
| range
| | for the local network is included and what its range is.
| | Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| | connection/device from the network].
| | THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| | Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network
AND
| that
| | the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| | Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and
TCP/IP
| | protocol.
| | Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router
or
| | server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings]
to
| | receive from the network.
| | Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have
checked
| the
| | above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the
network
| | controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start
the
| | modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is
| found.
| | IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
| | Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping
| returning
| | address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
| disabled
| | apps].
| |
| | Check here for other ideas:
| | http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm
| |
| | Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
| | Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | news | | | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and
reloaded
| Win
| | 98.
| | | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via
| Ethernet
| | | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug
and
| play.
| | | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the
reload.
| Now
| | I
| | | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the
Network
| | | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be
different
| | | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
| | |
| | | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this
| connected,
| | I
| | | would be very greatful!
| | | Thank you!
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|




  #13  
Old October 19th 08, 04:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,626
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and
it
| still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and Internet
| Explorer.

Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping worked.
Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN settings].
{Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}

|
| Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the IP/subnet
| mask have been changed.
|
| Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that what
it
| should be?
|
| Thanks!
| Martha

IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to refresh/find
the network if available];
AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut it off;
AND checked the browsers;
AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
- THEN -

Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD somewhere
like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices [modem,
netcard, etc]

Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI was
unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
Shutdown -
Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
go to Network
re-check everything,
make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the *adapter's* TCP/IP
settings.
Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain automatically]. Save,
It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.

Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get "More Info".
SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously posted.
Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a text
file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.

Should look something like this:
Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | MEB,
| | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
| | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have.
I
| | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a Vista
Laptop
| | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired
(if
| I
| | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled
for
| SPI
| | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which
has a
| | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
computer
| was
| | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the
Win 98
| | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is
only
| | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings
correct to
| | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on
the
| | Network.
| |
| | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | Gateway Blank
| | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | Bindings to:
| | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | Microsoft Family Logon
| |
| | Advanced Tab
| | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| |
| | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| | Binding to:
| | 3COM Diagnostic
| | NetBEUI
| | TCP/IP
| |
| | Advanced tab:
| | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | Link Wake up Enable
| | IP not present
| |
| | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
|
| Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired, try
making
| it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already
used}.
| Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this to
the
| manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet 255.255.255.0.
| See if this works.
|
| |
| | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
| connected
| | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
| |
| | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
| 192.168.5.1
| | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However
this
| | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
| |
| | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
| | Martha
| |
|
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| | It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP
and
| 98
| | computer and start from scratch.
| |
| | HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
| XP/VISTA/other
| | box{es} up.
| | First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP
| range
| | for the local network is included and what its range is.
| | Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| | connection/device from the network].
| | THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| | Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network
AND
| that
| | the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| | Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and
TCP/IP
| | protocol.
| | Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router
or
| | server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings]
to
| | receive from the network.
| | Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have
checked
| the
| | above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the
network
| | controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start
the
| | modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is
| found.
| | IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
| | Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping
| returning
| | address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
| disabled
| | apps].
| |
| | Check here for other ideas:
| | http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm
| |
| | Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
| | Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | news | | | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and
reloaded
| Win
| | 98.
| | | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via
| Ethernet
| | | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug
and
| play.
| | | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the
reload.
| Now
| | I
| | | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the
Network
| | | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be
different
| | | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
| | |
| | | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this
| connected,
| | I
| | | would be very greatful!
| | | Thank you!
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|




  #14  
Old October 19th 08, 07:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
skibuz
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 36
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

MEB,
THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said and
uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then rebooted. It
discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are the 3 HP
System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had NOT
loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of anything
else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled DRIVERS. So
I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for the Win
98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged back in
my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My best
guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
My problem is resolved thanks to you!
Martha

"MEB" wrote:

"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and
it
| still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and Internet
| Explorer.

Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping worked.
Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN settings].
{Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}

|
| Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the IP/subnet
| mask have been changed.
|
| Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that what
it
| should be?
|
| Thanks!
| Martha

IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to refresh/find
the network if available];
AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut it off;
AND checked the browsers;
AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
- THEN -

Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD somewhere
like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices [modem,
netcard, etc]

Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI was
unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
Shutdown -
Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
go to Network
re-check everything,
make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the *adapter's* TCP/IP
settings.
Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain automatically]. Save,
It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.

Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get "More Info".
SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously posted.
Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a text
file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.

Should look something like this:
Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | MEB,
| | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
| | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have.
I
| | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a Vista
Laptop
| | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired
(if
| I
| | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled
for
| SPI
| | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which
has a
| | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
computer
| was
| | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the
Win 98
| | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is
only
| | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings
correct to
| | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on
the
| | Network.
| |
| | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | Gateway Blank
| | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | Bindings to:
| | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | Microsoft Family Logon
| |
| | Advanced Tab
| | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| |
| | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| | Binding to:
| | 3COM Diagnostic
| | NetBEUI
| | TCP/IP
| |
| | Advanced tab:
| | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | Link Wake up Enable
| | IP not present
| |
| | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
|
| Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired, try
making
| it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already
used}.
| Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this to
the
| manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet 255.255.255.0.
| See if this works.
|
| |
| | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
| connected
| | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
| |
| | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
| 192.168.5.1
| | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However
this
| | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
| |
| | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
| | Martha
| |
|
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| | It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP
and
| 98
| | computer and start from scratch.
| |
| | HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
| XP/VISTA/other
| | box{es} up.
| | First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP
| range
| | for the local network is included and what its range is.
| | Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| | connection/device from the network].
| | THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| | Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network
AND
| that
| | the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| | Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and
TCP/IP
| | protocol.
| | Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router
or
| | server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings]
to
| | receive from the network.
| | Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have
checked
| the
| | above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the
network
| | controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start
the
| | modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is
| found.
| | IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
| | Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping
| returning
| | address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
| disabled
| | apps].
| |
| | Check here for other ideas:
| | http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm
| |
| | Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
| | Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | news | | | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and
reloaded
| Win
| | 98.
| | | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via
| Ethernet
| | | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug
and
| play.
| | | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the
reload.
| Now
| | I
| | | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the
Network
| | | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be
different
| | | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
| | |
| | | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this
| connected,
| | I
| | | would be very greatful!
| | | Thank you!
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|





  #15  
Old October 19th 08, 07:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
skibuz
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 36
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

MEB,
THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said and
uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then rebooted. It
discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are the 3 HP
System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had NOT
loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of anything
else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled DRIVERS. So
I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for the Win
98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged back in
my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My best
guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
My problem is resolved thanks to you!
Martha

"MEB" wrote:

"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and
it
| still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and Internet
| Explorer.

Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping worked.
Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN settings].
{Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}

|
| Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the IP/subnet
| mask have been changed.
|
| Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that what
it
| should be?
|
| Thanks!
| Martha

IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to refresh/find
the network if available];
AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut it off;
AND checked the browsers;
AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
- THEN -

Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD somewhere
like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices [modem,
netcard, etc]

Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI was
unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
Shutdown -
Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
go to Network
re-check everything,
make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the *adapter's* TCP/IP
settings.
Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain automatically]. Save,
It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.

Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get "More Info".
SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously posted.
Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a text
file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.

Should look something like this:
Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | MEB,
| | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
| | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have.
I
| | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a Vista
Laptop
| | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired
(if
| I
| | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled
for
| SPI
| | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which
has a
| | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
computer
| was
| | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the
Win 98
| | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is
only
| | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings
correct to
| | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on
the
| | Network.
| |
| | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | Gateway Blank
| | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | Bindings to:
| | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | Microsoft Family Logon
| |
| | Advanced Tab
| | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| |
| | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| | Binding to:
| | 3COM Diagnostic
| | NetBEUI
| | TCP/IP
| |
| | Advanced tab:
| | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | Link Wake up Enable
| | IP not present
| |
| | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
|
| Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired, try
making
| it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already
used}.
| Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this to
the
| manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet 255.255.255.0.
| See if this works.
|
| |
| | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
| connected
| | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
| |
| | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
| 192.168.5.1
| | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However
this
| | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
| |
| | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
| | Martha
| |
|
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| | It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP
and
| 98
| | computer and start from scratch.
| |
| | HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
| XP/VISTA/other
| | box{es} up.
| | First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP
| range
| | for the local network is included and what its range is.
| | Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| | connection/device from the network].
| | THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| | Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network
AND
| that
| | the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| | Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and
TCP/IP
| | protocol.
| | Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router
or
| | server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings]
to
| | receive from the network.
| | Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have
checked
| the
| | above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the
network
| | controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start
the
| | modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is
| found.
| | IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
| | Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping
| returning
| | address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
| disabled
| | apps].
| |
| | Check here for other ideas:
| | http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm
| |
| | Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
| | Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | news | | | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and
reloaded
| Win
| | 98.
| | | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via
| Ethernet
| | | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug
and
| play.
| | | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the
reload.
| Now
| | I
| | | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the
Network
| | | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be
different
| | | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
| | |
| | | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this
| connected,
| | I
| | | would be very greatful!
| | | Thank you!
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|





  #16  
Old October 19th 08, 08:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,626
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE


"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| MEB,
| THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said and
| uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then rebooted.
It
| discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
| EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are the 3
HP
| System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had NOT
| loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
| adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of
anything
| else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled DRIVERS.
So
| I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for the
Win
| 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged back
in
| my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My best
| guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
|
| THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| Martha

I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.

I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I would
recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up to date
{or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them... just
update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed are at
least installed in your system.
MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using 9X on
the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something like
SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't going to
use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router and part
of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.

If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to advise on
those issues.

Again, thanks for posting back with the success.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0
and
| it
| | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and
Internet
| | Explorer.
|
| Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping
worked.
| Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
| Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN settings].
| {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
|
| |
| | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the
IP/subnet
| | mask have been changed.
| |
| | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that
what
| it
| | should be?
| |
| | Thanks!
| | Martha
|
| IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
refresh/find
| the network if available];
| AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut it
off;
| AND checked the browsers;
| AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| - THEN -
|
| Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD
somewhere
| like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices
[modem,
| netcard, etc]
|
| Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI was
| unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| Shutdown -
| Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
| reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| go to Network
| re-check everything,
| make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
| AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the *adapter's*
TCP/IP
| settings.
| Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain automatically].
Save,
| It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
|
| Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get "More
Info".
| SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously
posted.
| Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a text
| file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.
|
| Should look something like this:
| Ethernet adapter :
|
| Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
| DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
| Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
|
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | MEB,
| | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about
the IP
| | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I
have.
| I
| | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a
Vista
| Laptop
| | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP
hardwired
| (if
| | I
| | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is
enabled
| for
| | SPI
| | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security
which
| has a
| | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
| computer
| | was
| | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did
the
| Win 98
| | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It
is
| only
| | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings
| correct to
| | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine
on
| the
| | | Network.
| | |
| | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | Gateway Blank
| | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | Bindings to:
| | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | |
| | | Advanced Tab
| | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| | |
| | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| | | Binding to:
| | | 3COM Diagnostic
| | | NetBEUI
| | | TCP/IP
| | |
| | | Advanced tab:
| | | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | | Link Wake up Enable
| | | IP not present
| | |
| | | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
| |
| | Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| | It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired,
try
| making
| | it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already
| used}.
| | Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
Ethernet
| | Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this
to
| the
| | manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet
255.255.255.0.
| | See if this works.
| |
| | |
| | | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
| | connected
| | | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
| | |
| | | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
| | 192.168.5.1
| | | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties).
However
| this
| | | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
| | |
| | | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your
help.
| | | Martha
| | |
| |
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | | It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both
the XP
| and
| | 98
| | | computer and start from scratch.
| | |
| | | HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
| | XP/VISTA/other
| | | box{es} up.
| | | First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the
IP
| | range
| | | for the local network is included and what its range is.
| | | Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| | | connection/device from the network].
| | | THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| | | Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the
network
| AND
| | that
| | | the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| | | Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and
| TCP/IP
| | | protocol.
| | | Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a
router
| or
| | | server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP
settings]
| to
| | | receive from the network.
| | | Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have
| checked
| | the
| | | above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the
| network
| | | controller/router and the computers [unless a major network],
start
| the
| | | modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if
it is
| | found.
| | | IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
| | | Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet
ping
| | returning
| | | address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
| | disabled
| | | apps].
| | |
| | | Check here for other ideas:
| | | http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm
| | |
| | | Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
| | | Post back with the fix and results if successful for other
users.
| | |
| | | --
| | | MEB
| | | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | | a Peoples' counsel
| | | _ _
| | | ~~
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | news | | | | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and
| reloaded
| | Win
| | | 98.
| | | | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected
via
| | Ethernet
| | | | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically
plug
| and
| | play.
| | | | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the
| reload.
| | Now
| | | I
| | | | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the
| Network
| | | | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be
| different
| | | | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
| | | |
| | | | If someone could help me with the settings required to get
this
| | connected,
| | | I
| | | | would be very greatful!
| | | | Thank you!
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|


  #17  
Old October 19th 08, 08:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,626
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE


"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| MEB,
| THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said and
| uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then rebooted.
It
| discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
| EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are the 3
HP
| System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had NOT
| loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
| adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of
anything
| else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled DRIVERS.
So
| I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for the
Win
| 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged back
in
| my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My best
| guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
|
| THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| Martha

I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.

I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I would
recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up to date
{or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them... just
update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed are at
least installed in your system.
MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using 9X on
the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something like
SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't going to
use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router and part
of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.

If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to advise on
those issues.

Again, thanks for posting back with the success.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0
and
| it
| | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and
Internet
| | Explorer.
|
| Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping
worked.
| Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
| Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN settings].
| {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
|
| |
| | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the
IP/subnet
| | mask have been changed.
| |
| | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that
what
| it
| | should be?
| |
| | Thanks!
| | Martha
|
| IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
refresh/find
| the network if available];
| AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut it
off;
| AND checked the browsers;
| AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| - THEN -
|
| Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD
somewhere
| like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices
[modem,
| netcard, etc]
|
| Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI was
| unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| Shutdown -
| Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
| reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| go to Network
| re-check everything,
| make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
| AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the *adapter's*
TCP/IP
| settings.
| Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain automatically].
Save,
| It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
|
| Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get "More
Info".
| SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously
posted.
| Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a text
| file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.
|
| Should look something like this:
| Ethernet adapter :
|
| Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
| DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
| Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
|
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | MEB,
| | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about
the IP
| | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I
have.
| I
| | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a
Vista
| Laptop
| | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP
hardwired
| (if
| | I
| | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is
enabled
| for
| | SPI
| | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security
which
| has a
| | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
| computer
| | was
| | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did
the
| Win 98
| | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It
is
| only
| | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings
| correct to
| | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine
on
| the
| | | Network.
| | |
| | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | Gateway Blank
| | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | Bindings to:
| | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | |
| | | Advanced Tab
| | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| | |
| | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| | | Binding to:
| | | 3COM Diagnostic
| | | NetBEUI
| | | TCP/IP
| | |
| | | Advanced tab:
| | | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | | Link Wake up Enable
| | | IP not present
| | |
| | | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
| |
| | Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| | It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired,
try
| making
| | it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already
| used}.
| | Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
Ethernet
| | Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this
to
| the
| | manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet
255.255.255.0.
| | See if this works.
| |
| | |
| | | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
| | connected
| | | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
| | |
| | | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
| | 192.168.5.1
| | | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties).
However
| this
| | | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
| | |
| | | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your
help.
| | | Martha
| | |
| |
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | | It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both
the XP
| and
| | 98
| | | computer and start from scratch.
| | |
| | | HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
| | XP/VISTA/other
| | | box{es} up.
| | | First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the
IP
| | range
| | | for the local network is included and what its range is.
| | | Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| | | connection/device from the network].
| | | THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| | | Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the
network
| AND
| | that
| | | the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| | | Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and
| TCP/IP
| | | protocol.
| | | Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a
router
| or
| | | server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP
settings]
| to
| | | receive from the network.
| | | Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have
| checked
| | the
| | | above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the
| network
| | | controller/router and the computers [unless a major network],
start
| the
| | | modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if
it is
| | found.
| | | IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
| | | Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet
ping
| | returning
| | | address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
| | disabled
| | | apps].
| | |
| | | Check here for other ideas:
| | | http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm
| | |
| | | Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
| | | Post back with the fix and results if successful for other
users.
| | |
| | | --
| | | MEB
| | | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | | a Peoples' counsel
| | | _ _
| | | ~~
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | news | | | | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and
| reloaded
| | Win
| | | 98.
| | | | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected
via
| | Ethernet
| | | | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically
plug
| and
| | play.
| | | | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the
| reload.
| | Now
| | | I
| | | | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the
| Network
| | | | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be
| different
| | | | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
| | | |
| | | | If someone could help me with the settings required to get
this
| | connected,
| | | I
| | | | would be very greatful!
| | | | Thank you!
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|


  #18  
Old October 19th 08, 11:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
skibuz
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 36
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be causing my
system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller' Win 98
AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.

Thanks again for everything!
Martha


"MEB" wrote:


"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| MEB,
| THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said and
| uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then rebooted.
It
| discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
| EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are the 3
HP
| System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had NOT
| loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
| adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of
anything
| else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled DRIVERS.
So
| I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for the
Win
| 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged back
in
| my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My best
| guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
|
| THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| Martha

I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.

I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I would
recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up to date
{or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them... just
update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed are at
least installed in your system.
MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using 9X on
the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something like
SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't going to
use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router and part
of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.

If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to advise on
those issues.

Again, thanks for posting back with the success.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0
and
| it
| | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and
Internet
| | Explorer.
|
| Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping
worked.
| Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
| Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN settings].
| {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
|
| |
| | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the
IP/subnet
| | mask have been changed.
| |
| | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that
what
| it
| | should be?
| |
| | Thanks!
| | Martha
|
| IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
refresh/find
| the network if available];
| AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut it
off;
| AND checked the browsers;
| AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| - THEN -
|
| Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD
somewhere
| like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices
[modem,
| netcard, etc]
|
| Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI was
| unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| Shutdown -
| Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
| reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| go to Network
| re-check everything,
| make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
| AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the *adapter's*
TCP/IP
| settings.
| Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain automatically].
Save,
| It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
|
| Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get "More
Info".
| SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously
posted.
| Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a text
| file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.
|
| Should look something like this:
| Ethernet adapter :
|
| Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
| DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
| Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
|
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | MEB,
| | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about
the IP
| | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I
have.
| I
| | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a
Vista
| Laptop
| | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP
hardwired
| (if
| | I
| | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is
enabled
| for
| | SPI
| | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security
which
| has a
| | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
| computer
| | was
| | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did
the
| Win 98
| | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It
is
| only
| | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings
| correct to
| | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine
on
| the
| | | Network.
| | |
| | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | Gateway Blank
| | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | Bindings to:
| | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | |
| | | Advanced Tab
| | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| | |
| | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| | | Binding to:
| | | 3COM Diagnostic
| | | NetBEUI
| | | TCP/IP
| | |
| | | Advanced tab:
| | | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | | Link Wake up Enable
| | | IP not present
| | |
| | | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
| |
| | Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| | It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired,
try
| making
| | it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already
| used}.
| | Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
Ethernet
| | Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this
to
| the
| | manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet
255.255.255.0.
| | See if this works.
| |
| | |
| | | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
| | connected
| | | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
| | |
| | | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
| | 192.168.5.1
| | | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties).
However
| this
| | | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
| | |
| | | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your
help.
| | | Martha
| | |
| |
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | | It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both
the XP
| and
| | 98
| | | computer and start from scratch.
| | |
| | | HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
| | XP/VISTA/other
| | | box{es} up.
| | | First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the
IP
| | range
| | | for the local network is included and what its range is.
| | | Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| | | connection/device from the network].
| | | THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| | | Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the
network
| AND
| | that
| | | the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| | | Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and
| TCP/IP
| | | protocol.
| | | Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a
router
| or
| | | server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP
settings]
| to
| | | receive from the network.
| | | Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have

  #19  
Old October 19th 08, 11:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
skibuz
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 36
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be causing my
system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller' Win 98
AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.

Thanks again for everything!
Martha


"MEB" wrote:


"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| MEB,
| THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said and
| uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then rebooted.
It
| discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
| EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are the 3
HP
| System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had NOT
| loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
| adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of
anything
| else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled DRIVERS.
So
| I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for the
Win
| 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged back
in
| my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My best
| guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
|
| THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| Martha

I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.

I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I would
recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up to date
{or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them... just
update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed are at
least installed in your system.
MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using 9X on
the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something like
SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't going to
use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router and part
of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.

If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to advise on
those issues.

Again, thanks for posting back with the success.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0
and
| it
| | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and
Internet
| | Explorer.
|
| Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping
worked.
| Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
| Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN settings].
| {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
|
| |
| | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the
IP/subnet
| | mask have been changed.
| |
| | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that
what
| it
| | should be?
| |
| | Thanks!
| | Martha
|
| IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
refresh/find
| the network if available];
| AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut it
off;
| AND checked the browsers;
| AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| - THEN -
|
| Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD
somewhere
| like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices
[modem,
| netcard, etc]
|
| Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI was
| unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| Shutdown -
| Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
| reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| go to Network
| re-check everything,
| make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
| AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the *adapter's*
TCP/IP
| settings.
| Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain automatically].
Save,
| It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
|
| Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get "More
Info".
| SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously
posted.
| Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a text
| file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.
|
| Should look something like this:
| Ethernet adapter :
|
| Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
| DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
| Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
|
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | MEB,
| | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about
the IP
| | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I
have.
| I
| | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a
Vista
| Laptop
| | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP
hardwired
| (if
| | I
| | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is
enabled
| for
| | SPI
| | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security
which
| has a
| | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
| computer
| | was
| | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did
the
| Win 98
| | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It
is
| only
| | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings
| correct to
| | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine
on
| the
| | | Network.
| | |
| | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | Gateway Blank
| | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | Bindings to:
| | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | |
| | | Advanced Tab
| | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| | |
| | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| | | Binding to:
| | | 3COM Diagnostic
| | | NetBEUI
| | | TCP/IP
| | |
| | | Advanced tab:
| | | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | | Link Wake up Enable
| | | IP not present
| | |
| | | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
| |
| | Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| | It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired,
try
| making
| | it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already
| used}.
| | Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
Ethernet
| | Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this
to
| the
| | manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet
255.255.255.0.
| | See if this works.
| |
| | |
| | | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
| | connected
| | | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
| | |
| | | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
| | 192.168.5.1
| | | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties).
However
| this
| | | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
| | |
| | | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your
help.
| | | Martha
| | |
| |
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | | It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both
the XP
| and
| | 98
| | | computer and start from scratch.
| | |
| | | HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
| | XP/VISTA/other
| | | box{es} up.
| | | First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the
IP
| | range
| | | for the local network is included and what its range is.
| | | Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| | | connection/device from the network].
| | | THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| | | Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the
network
| AND
| | that
| | | the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| | | Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and
| TCP/IP
| | | protocol.
| | | Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a
router
| or
| | | server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP
settings]
| to
| | | receive from the network.
| | | Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have

  #20  
Old October 20th 08, 04:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,626
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

Your welcome...

How much memory do you have? And how fast a processor?

You can shutdown some of the services in AVAST! if your not using them,
like P2P, Outlook/Exchange [not OE or other mail programs], and Instant
messaging,
You WILL need to configure your browsers to use a proxy[AVAST] at 127.0.0.1
port 12080 in your connectionsLANAdvanced so your Internet contact can be
monitored and checked for bad stuff. It handles POP3 and IMAP connections
for email which covers most services.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| Thanks! I downloaded free Avast and installed it. It seems to be causing
my
| system to slow down significantly. I may look around for a 'smaller' Win
98
| AV program. Then I'll find a firewall.
|
| Thanks again for everything!
| Martha
|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
|
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| ...
| | MEB,
| | THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said
and
| | uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then
rebooted.
| It
| | discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
| | EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are
the 3
| HP
| | System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
| | reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had
NOT
| | loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
| | adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of
| anything
| | else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled
DRIVERS.
| So
| | I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for
the
| Win
| | 98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged
back
| in
| | my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My
best
| | guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.
| |
| | THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
| | My problem is resolved thanks to you!
| | Martha
|
| I'm happy it worked out for you, thanks for posting back.
|
| I note that you used the system restore disks [dated/old files], I
would
| recommend going to the windows update site and make sure you are up to
date
| {or at least as of end of support 2006} for the system.
| DO NOT use any of Microsoft's "drivers" if they still offer them...
just
| update the system and IE/OE so what security holes Microsoft fixed are
at
| least installed in your system.
| MAKE SURE you install a firewall and Anti-Virus in 9X before using 9X
on
| the Internet ANYWHERE beyond windowsupdate, and at least something like
| SpyWare Blaster for some of the other issues. Even if you aren't going
to
| use the 9X system on the Internet, as it is attached to the router and
part
| of your network, it can be attacked, so make sure to protect it.
|
| If you want more or specific recommendations, please post in the
| microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion group, and we will help to advise
on
| those issues.
|
| Again, thanks for posting back with the success.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
|
| |
| | "MEB" wrote:
| |
| | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to
255.255.255.0
| and
| | it
| | | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and
| Internet
| | | Explorer.
| |
| | Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping
| worked.
| | Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
| | Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN
settings].
| | {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
| | NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
| |
| | |
| | | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the
| IP/subnet
| | | mask have been changed.
| | |
| | | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
Ethernet
| | | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is
that
| what
| | it
| | | should be?
| | |
| | | Thanks!
| | | Martha
| |
| | IF you have disabled ALL firewalls;
| | AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to
| refresh/find
| | the network if available];
| | AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut
it
| off;
| | AND checked the browsers;
| | AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
| | AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
| | - THEN -
| |
| | Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD
| somewhere
| | like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices
| [modem,
| | netcard, etc]
| |
| | Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI
was
| | unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
| | Shutdown -
| | Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
| | reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
| | Restart at least two times reconnect the cable restart
| | go to Network
| | re-check everything,
| | make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
| | File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
| | AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the
*adapter's*
| TCP/IP
| | settings.
| | Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain
automatically].
| Save,
| | It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
| |
| | Run 'winipcfg' from the Start Run menu. Use the button to get
"More
| Info".
| | SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously
| posted.
| | Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a
text
| | file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.
| |
| | Should look something like this:
| | Ethernet adapter :
| |
| | Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| | Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
| | DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| | IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
| | Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| | Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
| | DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
| | Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| | Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| | Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
| | Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
| |
| |
| | --
| | MEB
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
| | _ _
| | ~~
| |
| | |
| | | "MEB" wrote:
| | |
| | |
| | | "skibuz" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | MEB,
| | | | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand
about
| the IP
| | | | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what
I
| have.
| | I
| | | | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a
| Vista
| | Laptop
| | | | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP
| hardwired
| | (if
| | | I
| | | | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is
| enabled
| | for
| | | SPI
| | | | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security
| which
| | has a
| | | | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
| | computer
| | | was
| | | | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only
did
| the
| | Win 98
| | | | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting.
It
| is
| | only
| | | | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my
settings
| | correct to
| | | | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working
fine
| on
| | the
| | | | Network.
| | | |
| | | | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| | | | DNS Configuration Disabled
| | | | Gateway Blank
| | | | WINS Configuration Disabled
| | | | IP Address Obtain automatically
| | | | Bindings to:
| | | | Client for Microsoft Networks
| | | | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| | | | Microsoft Family Logon
| | | |
| | | | Advanced Tab
| | | | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| | | | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| | | |
| | | | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| | | | Binding to:
| | | | 3COM Diagnostic
| | | | NetBEUI
| | | | TCP/IP
| | | |
| | | | Advanced tab:
| | | | APM Wake Up Enabled
| | | | Early Tx Threshold 10
| | | | Link speed/duplex Auto
| | | | Link Wake up Enable
| | | | IP not present
| | | |
| | | | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask
255.255.255.0
| | | | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| | | | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask
255.255.0.0
| | |
| | | Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| | | It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its
hardwired,
| try
| | making
| | | it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not
already
| | used}.
| | | Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast
| Ethernet
| | | Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change
this
| to
| | the
| | | manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet
| 255.255.255.0.
| | | See if this works.
| | |
| | | |
| | | | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all
systems
| | | connected
| | | | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
| | | |
| | | | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP
to
| | | 192.168.5.1
| | | | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties).
| However
| | this
| | | | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
| | | |
| | | | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your
| help.
| | | | Martha
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | MEB
| | | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | | a Peoples' counsel
| | | _ _
| | | ~~
| | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "MEB" wrote:
| | | |
| | | | It may be easier to just remove the network settings on
both
| the XP
| | and
| | | 98
| | | | computer and start from scratch.
| | | |
| | | | HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing
the
| | | XP/VISTA/other
| | | | box{es} up.
| | | | First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if
the
| IP
| | | range
| | | | for the local network is included and what its range is.
| | | | Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any
Internet
| | | | connection/device from the network].
| | | | THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| | | | Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the
| network
| | AND
| | | that
| | | | the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| | | | Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed
and
| | TCP/IP
| | | | protocol.
| | | | Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a
| router
| | or
| | | | server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP
| settings]
| | to
| | | | receive from the network.
| | | | Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you
have


 




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