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  #1  
Old June 22nd 08, 12:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
grafxfriday
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Default Reinstalling Win 98

I have done this before without a hitch. This time I made the mistake of
uninstalling software that came with Windows, Star Office 5.0. When I insert
the eMachine cd then do 1. Restore format HDD it seems to work then a very
brief error message "can't crate extraction dir", then continual error
message, "can't create C:/OFFICE51" and "unable to process". Then the screen
says image restores then reboots and asks for Restore setup. I have 5 books
from the library but they seem to be for WIN 95. I can view BIOS, but dos
won't go to C from A. Thanks in advance for your brillancy!
--
Do what you enjoy for a living!
  #2  
Old June 22nd 08, 11:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
grafxfriday
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Posts: 10
Default Reinstalling Win 98

This was a breeze last time I did this, after I installed (2) 128MB SDRAM
Memory. This is an old computer I am using for desktop publishing. It is my
wish to get as much off the hard drive as I can so I can have as much
workspace as possible. I will be loading Pagemaker and Photoshop on again
when finished restoring and eventually get a newer computer.
I have nothing on the hd I need at this time.
Ok, my two main problems appear to be 1. "can't create extraction directory"
and
2. "invalid drive specification".
The options for a RESTORE of my hard drive are
1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD
2. Restore WIN 98 will NOT format HDD
3. Boot to DOS Prompt from CDROM
F5=safe mode,Shift+F5=command prompt,Shift+F8=step by step confirmation. I
picked
#1 and step by step this time as to read the errors.
Here are where the errors occurred:
a:\unzip - od c:\windows\system R:\winsys.img [Enter=Y,Esc=N] Y
check dir: can't create extraction directory:c:\windows\system
a:\unzip - od c:\windows\R:\winother.img[]Y
check dir: can't create extraction directory:c:\windows
copy a:\winstart.bat c:\windows\winstart.bat[]Y
Invalid Drive Specification
copy a:\lfnbk.exe c:windows\lfnbk.exe[]Y
Invalid Drive Specification
cls[]Y
cd\[]Y
cls[]Y
ECHO[]Y
ECHO WINDOWS 98 RESTORE COMPLETE[]Y
WIN98 RESTORE COMPLETE
ECHO - - - - - - - - []Y
---------- ECHO THE HARD DRIVE IMAGE HAS BEEN RESTORED[]Y
THDIHBR
ECHO PRESS ANY KEY THE SYSTEM WILL BE REBOOT[]Y
PAKTSWBR
ECHO **STORE THE CDROM IN A SAFE LOCATION!**[]Y
STCIASL
ECHO[]Y
a:\Ejected.exe r:[]Y
Press any key to reboot your computer.
There you have it the two errors. I abbreviated some of the echo repeats.
Obviously
when I press any key it wants to boot from the cd,error 200,204 insert cd.
I looked around the Bios and here's what it says:
SETUP-Primary hd is ATAPI CDROM. LBA on,BLOCK on, 32bit on,PIO auto. The
Secondary
is the same. Primary and Secondary Slave are not installed.
Floppy A(broken, I had an external (usb) floppy driver as well as a flash
drive (usb)
I was working off of). Floppy B not installed.
ADVANCED-Quick Boot disabled, 1st Boot Device:1st IDE-HDD,2nd BD:ATAPI
CDROM, 3rd:2nd
IDE-HDD.
There you have it. I hope this is a clear picture of my problem as I know
your time
is valuable. Much gratitude.
--

"grafxfriday" wrote:

I have done this before without a hitch. This time I made the mistake of
uninstalling software that came with Windows, Star Office 5.0. When I insert
the eMachine cd then do 1. Restore format HDD it seems to work then a very
brief error message "can't crate extraction dir", then continual error
message, "can't create C:/OFFICE51" and "unable to process". Then the screen
says image restores then reboots and asks for Restore setup. I have 5 books
from the library but they seem to be for WIN 95. I can view BIOS, but dos
won't go to C from A. Thanks in advance for your brillancy!
--
Do what you enjoy for a living!

  #3  
Old June 22nd 08, 11:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
grafxfriday
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Posts: 10
Default Reinstalling Win 98

This was a breeze last time I did this, after I installed (2) 128MB SDRAM
Memory. This is an old computer I am using for desktop publishing. It is my
wish to get as much off the hard drive as I can so I can have as much
workspace as possible. I will be loading Pagemaker and Photoshop on again
when finished restoring and eventually get a newer computer.
I have nothing on the hd I need at this time.
Ok, my two main problems appear to be 1. "can't create extraction directory"
and
2. "invalid drive specification".
The options for a RESTORE of my hard drive are
1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD
2. Restore WIN 98 will NOT format HDD
3. Boot to DOS Prompt from CDROM
F5=safe mode,Shift+F5=command prompt,Shift+F8=step by step confirmation. I
picked
#1 and step by step this time as to read the errors.
Here are where the errors occurred:
a:\unzip - od c:\windows\system R:\winsys.img [Enter=Y,Esc=N] Y
check dir: can't create extraction directory:c:\windows\system
a:\unzip - od c:\windows\R:\winother.img[]Y
check dir: can't create extraction directory:c:\windows
copy a:\winstart.bat c:\windows\winstart.bat[]Y
Invalid Drive Specification
copy a:\lfnbk.exe c:windows\lfnbk.exe[]Y
Invalid Drive Specification
cls[]Y
cd\[]Y
cls[]Y
ECHO[]Y
ECHO WINDOWS 98 RESTORE COMPLETE[]Y
WIN98 RESTORE COMPLETE
ECHO - - - - - - - - []Y
---------- ECHO THE HARD DRIVE IMAGE HAS BEEN RESTORED[]Y
THDIHBR
ECHO PRESS ANY KEY THE SYSTEM WILL BE REBOOT[]Y
PAKTSWBR
ECHO **STORE THE CDROM IN A SAFE LOCATION!**[]Y
STCIASL
ECHO[]Y
a:\Ejected.exe r:[]Y
Press any key to reboot your computer.
There you have it the two errors. I abbreviated some of the echo repeats.
Obviously
when I press any key it wants to boot from the cd,error 200,204 insert cd.
I looked around the Bios and here's what it says:
SETUP-Primary hd is ATAPI CDROM. LBA on,BLOCK on, 32bit on,PIO auto. The
Secondary
is the same. Primary and Secondary Slave are not installed.
Floppy A(broken, I had an external (usb) floppy driver as well as a flash
drive (usb)
I was working off of). Floppy B not installed.
ADVANCED-Quick Boot disabled, 1st Boot Device:1st IDE-HDD,2nd BD:ATAPI
CDROM, 3rd:2nd
IDE-HDD.
There you have it. I hope this is a clear picture of my problem as I know
your time
is valuable. Much gratitude.
--

"grafxfriday" wrote:

I have done this before without a hitch. This time I made the mistake of
uninstalling software that came with Windows, Star Office 5.0. When I insert
the eMachine cd then do 1. Restore format HDD it seems to work then a very
brief error message "can't crate extraction dir", then continual error
message, "can't create C:/OFFICE51" and "unable to process". Then the screen
says image restores then reboots and asks for Restore setup. I have 5 books
from the library but they seem to be for WIN 95. I can view BIOS, but dos
won't go to C from A. Thanks in advance for your brillancy!
--
Do what you enjoy for a living!

  #4  
Old June 23rd 08, 06:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
rebel
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Posts: 75
Default Reinstalling Win 98

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:27:01 -0700, grafxfriday
wrote:

(snip0

I looked around the Bios and here's what it says:
SETUP-Primary hd is ATAPI CDROM. LBA on,BLOCK on, 32bit on,PIO auto. The
Secondary
is the same. Primary and Secondary Slave are not installed.


If I am reading that correctly, your BIOS isn't seeing any HDD's.
  #5  
Old June 23rd 08, 06:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
rebel
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Posts: 75
Default Reinstalling Win 98

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:27:01 -0700, grafxfriday
wrote:

(snip0

I looked around the Bios and here's what it says:
SETUP-Primary hd is ATAPI CDROM. LBA on,BLOCK on, 32bit on,PIO auto. The
Secondary
is the same. Primary and Secondary Slave are not installed.


If I am reading that correctly, your BIOS isn't seeing any HDD's.
  #6  
Old June 23rd 08, 09:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Posts: 2,158
Default Reinstalling Win 98

As Rebel says, your BIOS isn't seeing any HDs,so for all practical purposes,
there aren't any. That's why the copy operations failed, that's why you
can't see C:\ from A:\.. You need to check all drives, their jumpers and
connections, and then check the BIOS to see if there isn't some
Auto-detection routine. Otherwise, reset the CMOS. And since that's such an
old machine, consider the wisdom of replacing the battery while you're at it
(the CMOS battery, a quarter-sized watch-style battery.)

You don't mention make or model of your machine, so there's no way to help
you in any more detail.

PS -- Star Office 5 didn't come with Windows. It came with the computer.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"grafxfriday" wrote in message
...
This was a breeze last time I did this, after I installed (2) 128MB SDRAM
Memory. This is an old computer I am using for desktop publishing. It is
my
wish to get as much off the hard drive as I can so I can have as much
workspace as possible. I will be loading Pagemaker and Photoshop on again
when finished restoring and eventually get a newer computer.
I have nothing on the hd I need at this time.
Ok, my two main problems appear to be 1. "can't create extraction
directory"
and
2. "invalid drive specification".
The options for a RESTORE of my hard drive are
1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD
2. Restore WIN 98 will NOT format HDD
3. Boot to DOS Prompt from CDROM
F5=safe mode,Shift+F5=command prompt,Shift+F8=step by step confirmation. I
picked
#1 and step by step this time as to read the errors.
Here are where the errors occurred:
a:\unzip - od c:\windows\system R:\winsys.img [Enter=Y,Esc=N] Y
check dir: can't create extraction directory:c:\windows\system
a:\unzip - od c:\windows\R:\winother.img[]Y
check dir: can't create extraction directory:c:\windows
copy a:\winstart.bat c:\windows\winstart.bat[]Y
Invalid Drive Specification
copy a:\lfnbk.exe c:windows\lfnbk.exe[]Y
Invalid Drive Specification
cls[]Y
cd\[]Y
cls[]Y
ECHO[]Y
ECHO WINDOWS 98 RESTORE COMPLETE[]Y
WIN98 RESTORE COMPLETE
ECHO - - - - - - - - []Y
---------- ECHO THE HARD DRIVE IMAGE HAS BEEN RESTORED[]Y
THDIHBR
ECHO PRESS ANY KEY THE SYSTEM WILL BE REBOOT[]Y
PAKTSWBR
ECHO **STORE THE CDROM IN A SAFE LOCATION!**[]Y
STCIASL
ECHO[]Y
a:\Ejected.exe r:[]Y
Press any key to reboot your computer.
There you have it the two errors. I abbreviated some of the echo repeats.
Obviously
when I press any key it wants to boot from the cd,error 200,204 insert cd.
I looked around the Bios and here's what it says:
SETUP-Primary hd is ATAPI CDROM. LBA on,BLOCK on, 32bit on,PIO auto. The
Secondary
is the same. Primary and Secondary Slave are not installed.
Floppy A(broken, I had an external (usb) floppy driver as well as a flash
drive (usb)
I was working off of). Floppy B not installed.
ADVANCED-Quick Boot disabled, 1st Boot Device:1st IDE-HDD,2nd BD:ATAPI
CDROM, 3rd:2nd
IDE-HDD.
There you have it. I hope this is a clear picture of my problem as I know
your time
is valuable. Much gratitude.
--

"grafxfriday" wrote:

I have done this before without a hitch. This time I made the mistake of
uninstalling software that came with Windows, Star Office 5.0. When I
insert
the eMachine cd then do 1. Restore format HDD it seems to work then a
very
brief error message "can't crate extraction dir", then continual error
message, "can't create C:/OFFICE51" and "unable to process". Then the
screen
says image restores then reboots and asks for Restore setup. I have 5
books
from the library but they seem to be for WIN 95. I can view BIOS, but dos
won't go to C from A. Thanks in advance for your brillancy!
--
Do what you enjoy for a living!



  #7  
Old June 23rd 08, 09:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default Reinstalling Win 98

As Rebel says, your BIOS isn't seeing any HDs,so for all practical purposes,
there aren't any. That's why the copy operations failed, that's why you
can't see C:\ from A:\.. You need to check all drives, their jumpers and
connections, and then check the BIOS to see if there isn't some
Auto-detection routine. Otherwise, reset the CMOS. And since that's such an
old machine, consider the wisdom of replacing the battery while you're at it
(the CMOS battery, a quarter-sized watch-style battery.)

You don't mention make or model of your machine, so there's no way to help
you in any more detail.

PS -- Star Office 5 didn't come with Windows. It came with the computer.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"grafxfriday" wrote in message
...
This was a breeze last time I did this, after I installed (2) 128MB SDRAM
Memory. This is an old computer I am using for desktop publishing. It is
my
wish to get as much off the hard drive as I can so I can have as much
workspace as possible. I will be loading Pagemaker and Photoshop on again
when finished restoring and eventually get a newer computer.
I have nothing on the hd I need at this time.
Ok, my two main problems appear to be 1. "can't create extraction
directory"
and
2. "invalid drive specification".
The options for a RESTORE of my hard drive are
1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD
2. Restore WIN 98 will NOT format HDD
3. Boot to DOS Prompt from CDROM
F5=safe mode,Shift+F5=command prompt,Shift+F8=step by step confirmation. I
picked
#1 and step by step this time as to read the errors.
Here are where the errors occurred:
a:\unzip - od c:\windows\system R:\winsys.img [Enter=Y,Esc=N] Y
check dir: can't create extraction directory:c:\windows\system
a:\unzip - od c:\windows\R:\winother.img[]Y
check dir: can't create extraction directory:c:\windows
copy a:\winstart.bat c:\windows\winstart.bat[]Y
Invalid Drive Specification
copy a:\lfnbk.exe c:windows\lfnbk.exe[]Y
Invalid Drive Specification
cls[]Y
cd\[]Y
cls[]Y
ECHO[]Y
ECHO WINDOWS 98 RESTORE COMPLETE[]Y
WIN98 RESTORE COMPLETE
ECHO - - - - - - - - []Y
---------- ECHO THE HARD DRIVE IMAGE HAS BEEN RESTORED[]Y
THDIHBR
ECHO PRESS ANY KEY THE SYSTEM WILL BE REBOOT[]Y
PAKTSWBR
ECHO **STORE THE CDROM IN A SAFE LOCATION!**[]Y
STCIASL
ECHO[]Y
a:\Ejected.exe r:[]Y
Press any key to reboot your computer.
There you have it the two errors. I abbreviated some of the echo repeats.
Obviously
when I press any key it wants to boot from the cd,error 200,204 insert cd.
I looked around the Bios and here's what it says:
SETUP-Primary hd is ATAPI CDROM. LBA on,BLOCK on, 32bit on,PIO auto. The
Secondary
is the same. Primary and Secondary Slave are not installed.
Floppy A(broken, I had an external (usb) floppy driver as well as a flash
drive (usb)
I was working off of). Floppy B not installed.
ADVANCED-Quick Boot disabled, 1st Boot Device:1st IDE-HDD,2nd BD:ATAPI
CDROM, 3rd:2nd
IDE-HDD.
There you have it. I hope this is a clear picture of my problem as I know
your time
is valuable. Much gratitude.
--

"grafxfriday" wrote:

I have done this before without a hitch. This time I made the mistake of
uninstalling software that came with Windows, Star Office 5.0. When I
insert
the eMachine cd then do 1. Restore format HDD it seems to work then a
very
brief error message "can't crate extraction dir", then continual error
message, "can't create C:/OFFICE51" and "unable to process". Then the
screen
says image restores then reboots and asks for Restore setup. I have 5
books
from the library but they seem to be for WIN 95. I can view BIOS, but dos
won't go to C from A. Thanks in advance for your brillancy!
--
Do what you enjoy for a living!



  #8  
Old June 24th 08, 01:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
grafxfriday
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Posts: 10
Default Reinstalling Win 98

Thanks Rebel and Gary. I appreciate your help.
First Info then a couple questions..

Info Part I History
I have a single CD that says RESTORE CD(BOOTABLE CD)eMACHINES eTOWER433i
1998-99

Error Messages:
200:BOOT FAILURE
204:REBOOT AND SELECT PROPER BOOT DEVICE OR INSERT BOOT
MEDIA IN SELECTED BOOT DEVICE.

Initially the first few times I chose "1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD"
without step by step confirmation (this last time around I could see the
errors). I hope restarting several times then turning the computer off hasn't
caused more damage.

Info Part II New
Additionally, as I restarted the computer, the screen with basic info came
up. I
noticed 2 things;
1. Secondary Master ATAPI CDROM. Perhaps this is the reason the hard drive
is not
"C". I am tempted to change the BIOS settings to fix my drive error(it seems
obvious, primary=c) but I am not positive of the settings.

2. PCI Onboard USB Controller, IRQ10
PCI Onboard Multimedia Device IRQ10. (Some of the PCI Devices have no IRQ)
Perhaps
these two devices shouldn't use the same IRQ number.

Questions /Summary
1. Auto-detection routine? How can I tell if my old computer has this?

2. I will read up on how to find and configure CMOS. I do have dos commands
and 5 books from the library(mostly for WIN 95) but actual configurations are
hard to come by.
  #9  
Old June 24th 08, 01:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
grafxfriday
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 10
Default Reinstalling Win 98

Thanks Rebel and Gary. I appreciate your help.
First Info then a couple questions..

Info Part I History
I have a single CD that says RESTORE CD(BOOTABLE CD)eMACHINES eTOWER433i
1998-99

Error Messages:
200:BOOT FAILURE
204:REBOOT AND SELECT PROPER BOOT DEVICE OR INSERT BOOT
MEDIA IN SELECTED BOOT DEVICE.

Initially the first few times I chose "1. Restore WIN 98 will format HDD"
without step by step confirmation (this last time around I could see the
errors). I hope restarting several times then turning the computer off hasn't
caused more damage.

Info Part II New
Additionally, as I restarted the computer, the screen with basic info came
up. I
noticed 2 things;
1. Secondary Master ATAPI CDROM. Perhaps this is the reason the hard drive
is not
"C". I am tempted to change the BIOS settings to fix my drive error(it seems
obvious, primary=c) but I am not positive of the settings.

2. PCI Onboard USB Controller, IRQ10
PCI Onboard Multimedia Device IRQ10. (Some of the PCI Devices have no IRQ)
Perhaps
these two devices shouldn't use the same IRQ number.

Questions /Summary
1. Auto-detection routine? How can I tell if my old computer has this?

2. I will read up on how to find and configure CMOS. I do have dos commands
and 5 books from the library(mostly for WIN 95) but actual configurations are
hard to come by.
  #10  
Old June 24th 08, 06:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Ben Myers
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Posts: 356
Default Reinstalling Win 98

"grafxfriday" wrote in message ...
I have done this before without a hitch. This time I made the mistake of
uninstalling software that came with Windows, Star Office 5.0. When I insert
the eMachine cd then do 1. Restore format HDD it seems to work then a very
brief error message "can't crate extraction dir", then continual error
message, "can't create C:/OFFICE51" and "unable to process". Then the screen
says image restores then reboots and asks for Restore setup. I have 5 books
from the library but they seem to be for WIN 95. I can view BIOS, but dos
won't go to C from A. Thanks in advance for your brillancy!


Unplug the computer, open the case and remove and reseat the cables that
connect the hard drive to the motherboard or controller card. Then go into
the BIOS setup and make sure the hard is properly configured. Use
autodetect if available and be sure to save the settings when exiting. Then
try the restore CD.

Ben
 




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