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Old April 4th 08, 02:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
William B. Lurie
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Default New PC, 98 with old BIOS

That's the best I can describe it.
I have a hard drive from my old PC and it won't
boot in Normal Mode in my new PC, I suspect because
it was mad with a different BIOS.

However, it boots just fine in Safe Mode.
Is there a way to get around this?
(I hope I made it clear enough).
Thanks.
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Old April 4th 08, 04:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default New PC, 98 with old BIOS

You need to reinstall all drivers. First, can you FIND all of the drivers
for the new hardware that will support Win98?

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"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
That's the best I can describe it.
I have a hard drive from my old PC and it won't
boot in Normal Mode in my new PC, I suspect because
it was mad with a different BIOS.

However, it boots just fine in Safe Mode.
Is there a way to get around this?
(I hope I made it clear enough).
Thanks.


  #3  
Old April 4th 08, 04:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
William B. Lurie
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Default New PC, 98 with old BIOS

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
You need to reinstall all drivers. First, can you FIND all of the
drivers for the new hardware that will support Win98?

Gary, that question isn't simple to answer.
My new system is a Compaq Presario that has no
installation or maintenance CD. It has a separate
partition that is used for maintenance and they're
probably there somewhere. They're made for XPHome.
I have the 98 installation CD, are you suggesting
they are there? What, specifically, should I look
for, and what should I do with whatever I might find?
Remember, I'm part way home because at least I have
it running in Safe Mode.

I get other options with F8, but have no idea what
to do with them.
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Old April 4th 08, 05:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default New PC, 98 with old BIOS

1. Your new system very likely can't run Windows 98.
2. If it can, you go to the hardware manufacturers' sites and get the 98
drivers IF available.
3. No, the drivers you need aren't likely to be available. What model
Compaq? All you said is Presario. There's more to it than that.

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MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
You need to reinstall all drivers. First, can you FIND all of the drivers
for the new hardware that will support Win98?

Gary, that question isn't simple to answer.
My new system is a Compaq Presario that has no
installation or maintenance CD. It has a separate
partition that is used for maintenance and they're
probably there somewhere. They're made for XPHome.
I have the 98 installation CD, are you suggesting
they are there? What, specifically, should I look
for, and what should I do with whatever I might find?
Remember, I'm part way home because at least I have
it running in Safe Mode.

I get other options with F8, but have no idea what
to do with them.


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Old April 4th 08, 06:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
William B. Lurie
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Default New PC, 98 with old BIOS

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
1. Your new system very likely can't run Windows 98.
2. If it can, you go to the hardware manufacturers' sites and get the 98
drivers IF available.
3. No, the drivers you need aren't likely to be available. What model
Compaq? All you said is Presario. There's more to it than that.

In response to 1., Gary, it runs things nicely in 98, but I've
not been able to go beyond Safe Mode.
In response to 2., I can pose the problem to HP but I'd be surprised
if they were interested in helping.
As for 3., I didn't think you'd want the complete model designation.
It is CPOMPAQ Presario SR1900NX Desktop PC
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Old April 4th 08, 07:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default New PC, 98 with old BIOS

You haven't been able to go beyond Safe Mode because of the lack of Normal
Mode drivers. If the drivers aren't available from HP (or the appropriate
manufacturer if a third-party unit), they aren't available. Knowing all
this, what kind of response are you looking for?

--
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MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
1. Your new system very likely can't run Windows 98.
2. If it can, you go to the hardware manufacturers' sites and get the 98
drivers IF available.
3. No, the drivers you need aren't likely to be available. What model
Compaq? All you said is Presario. There's more to it than that.

In response to 1., Gary, it runs things nicely in 98, but I've
not been able to go beyond Safe Mode.
In response to 2., I can pose the problem to HP but I'd be surprised
if they were interested in helping.
As for 3., I didn't think you'd want the complete model designation.
It is CPOMPAQ Presario SR1900NX Desktop PC


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Old April 4th 08, 08:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
William B. Lurie
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Default New PC, 98 with old BIOS

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
You haven't been able to go beyond Safe Mode because of the lack of
Normal Mode drivers. If the drivers aren't available from HP (or the
appropriate manufacturer if a third-party unit), they aren't available.
Knowing all this, what kind of response are you looking for?

I think you said it quite clearly, Gary. I can use your statement, with
minor modification, to send to HP and ask them how I can get the
required drivers. It may be a dead end, but there's still a feasible
workaround: I can re-install 98 from scratch, and it will (I hope)
install with the proper drivers for this PC.
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Old April 5th 08, 12:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Franc Zabkar
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Default New PC, 98 with old BIOS

On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:17:33 -0400, "William B. Lurie"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
You haven't been able to go beyond Safe Mode because of the lack of
Normal Mode drivers. If the drivers aren't available from HP (or the
appropriate manufacturer if a third-party unit), they aren't available.
Knowing all this, what kind of response are you looking for?

I think you said it quite clearly, Gary. I can use your statement, with
minor modification, to send to HP and ask them how I can get the
required drivers. It may be a dead end, but there's still a feasible
workaround: I can re-install 98 from scratch, and it will (I hope)
install with the proper drivers for this PC.


The following info may or may not help.

Product specs:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...190727&lang=en

Chipset - ATI Radeon Xpress 200 for Intel Processors
Integrated graphics
Integrated High Definition audio - Realtek ALC 883 chipset
Network (LAN) - Integrated 10/100 Base-T networking interface

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Motherboard Specifications, P5LP-LE
(Altair)
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...262012&lang=en

Catalyst™ 6.2 Drivers and ATI Multimedia Software for Windows
98/Windows 98 SE/Windows ME
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/9...naiw-98me.html

- Franc Zabkar
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Old April 5th 08, 04:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default New PC, 98 with old BIOS

William, the point is that there are no such drivers. You need them, but
they don't exist and never will. In other words, you can't do what you want
to do.

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Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
You haven't been able to go beyond Safe Mode because of the lack of
Normal Mode drivers. If the drivers aren't available from HP (or the
appropriate manufacturer if a third-party unit), they aren't available.
Knowing all this, what kind of response are you looking for?

I think you said it quite clearly, Gary. I can use your statement, with
minor modification, to send to HP and ask them how I can get the
required drivers. It may be a dead end, but there's still a feasible
workaround: I can re-install 98 from scratch, and it will (I hope)
install with the proper drivers for this PC.


  #10  
Old April 8th 08, 06:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
William B. Lurie
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Default New PC, 98 with old BIOS

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
William, the point is that there are no such drivers. You need them, but
they don't exist and never will. In other words, you can't do what you
want to do.

Okay, Gary, I'm resigned to taking a different path.
I'm installing Win 98 anew on an empty hard drive. I
am aware of the pitfalls involved with large RAM and
have cut back to 512MB. I understand that there may be
complications, in that my current MB runs at 3.1 GHz.
Are there patches or upgrades still available, for
Win 98, that I can download and use to upgrade my old
original issue Win98? Thank you.
 




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