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USB 2.0 - addendum
That's what I understood but thanks again for taking the time to clarify.
Dan "Mart" wrote in message ... NB - perhaps I should clarify that the original single USB 1.1 port still only works at USB 1.1 speeds. It is the PCMCIA card which run at USB 2.0 speeds. Mart snipped |
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USB 2.0
Even cheaper on eBay. vbg
-- Mike M Fell off the back of a grounded Cargo Ship? eg http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6293307.stm Mart |
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USB 2.0
Sorry about the 'direction' - though you were US not Cdn.
However, instead of clogging PCMCIA slots (assume you've only got one anyway) with an extra card, what about e.g. :- http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=172369 using one of the (new) four USB sockets, if you must go LAN/ethernet. Mart "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Yes Mart, cable internet via a PCMCIA connection. I think you went the wrong way in the conversion. 9 Pounds would equate to $20 Cdn but still worth checking out. Thanks Dan "Mart" wrote in message ... DD, you say your PC is a laptop - with PCMCIA? 4 port USB 2.0 - PCMCIA card - e.g. UK outlet :- http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...roductID=47728 Cheap (GBP 9.27 or about $5) and simple solution. Comes with drivers (98/2000/ME/XP) Works at full USB 2.0 speeds. Then add a USB WiFi stick e.g :- http://www.scan.co.uk/products/produ...oductID=534352 and you're back in the 21st Century. I'm sure you can find US equivalents. My old Toshiba Tecra 8000 (circa 1997/8) with inbuilt single USB 1.1 port, designed for Win98 but now with WinMe installed, works a treat with the extra 4 USB 2.0 ports at USB 2.0 speeds Hope that also answers Shane's point elsewhere on the thread. HTH Mart "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Thanks for responding, Zee, Shane. Norman, George and Harry. I thought it might just involve a driver download, but alas, nothing is so simple. In fact, the mobo does not support USB 2.0. So dearly beloved will have to plug her MP3 player into my Desktop to charge the battery. I assume we can purchase a USB 2.0 Controller via a pcmia slot, although I'm not sure if I understood that even with that, we will be limited to USB 1.1 speeds. Haven't looked into it but can probably also purchase a docking station, which may be the most cost effective option. Again Gentlemen, thanks for the education, it was greatly appreciated. Dan "webster72n" wrote in message ... "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Haven't had the need for USB 2.0 for our Win Me laptop until recently so had never really paid much attention to it. Evidently we need USB 2.0 to have the ability to charge an MP3 player. If I understand it correctly, for Win 98SE, one needs to buy software but for Win Me and later O/S's, the software may be downloaded by way of updating from the Microsoft website. If so, I can't seem to find that at the Microsoft download site. Don't think you will either, Dan, because they terminated support for WinME, besides those things which have been pointed out already by Zee, Shane and George. H. Would appreciate guidance at your convenience. Many thanks Dan |
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lol You're wicked Mart, I wonder just how much the police will be able
to get back. Joan Mart wrote: Even cheaper on eBay. vbg -- Mike M Fell off the back of a grounded Cargo Ship? eg http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6293307.stm Mart |
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USB 2.0
That looks interesting Mart. Let's see if I understand it correctly. Instead
of using a PCMCIA card to connect to cable, and another PCMCIA card to provide USB 2.0, I would use a USB2 to Ethernet Adapter with multi outputs, one of which would allow an RJ-45 connection for cable, and at least one of which would provide USB 2.0 connection. All for about $25 Cdn. If my understanding is correct, that's the route I will follow. I'm just on my way out but will look into to this upon my return later this afternoon. Thanks "Mart" wrote in message ... Sorry about the 'direction' - though you were US not Cdn. However, instead of clogging PCMCIA slots (assume you've only got one anyway) with an extra card, what about e.g. :- http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=172369 using one of the (new) four USB sockets, if you must go LAN/ethernet. Mart "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Yes Mart, cable internet via a PCMCIA connection. I think you went the wrong way in the conversion. 9 Pounds would equate to $20 Cdn but still worth checking out. Thanks Dan "Mart" wrote in message ... DD, you say your PC is a laptop - with PCMCIA? 4 port USB 2.0 - PCMCIA card - e.g. UK outlet :- http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...roductID=47728 Cheap (GBP 9.27 or about $5) and simple solution. Comes with drivers (98/2000/ME/XP) Works at full USB 2.0 speeds. Then add a USB WiFi stick e.g :- http://www.scan.co.uk/products/produ...oductID=534352 and you're back in the 21st Century. I'm sure you can find US equivalents. My old Toshiba Tecra 8000 (circa 1997/8) with inbuilt single USB 1.1 port, designed for Win98 but now with WinMe installed, works a treat with the extra 4 USB 2.0 ports at USB 2.0 speeds Hope that also answers Shane's point elsewhere on the thread. HTH Mart "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Thanks for responding, Zee, Shane. Norman, George and Harry. I thought it might just involve a driver download, but alas, nothing is so simple. In fact, the mobo does not support USB 2.0. So dearly beloved will have to plug her MP3 player into my Desktop to charge the battery. I assume we can purchase a USB 2.0 Controller via a pcmia slot, although I'm not sure if I understood that even with that, we will be limited to USB 1.1 speeds. Haven't looked into it but can probably also purchase a docking station, which may be the most cost effective option. Again Gentlemen, thanks for the education, it was greatly appreciated. Dan "webster72n" wrote in message ... "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Haven't had the need for USB 2.0 for our Win Me laptop until recently so had never really paid much attention to it. Evidently we need USB 2.0 to have the ability to charge an MP3 player. If I understand it correctly, for Win 98SE, one needs to buy software but for Win Me and later O/S's, the software may be downloaded by way of updating from the Microsoft website. If so, I can't seem to find that at the Microsoft download site. Don't think you will either, Dan, because they terminated support for WinME, besides those things which have been pointed out already by Zee, Shane and George. H. Would appreciate guidance at your convenience. Many thanks Dan |
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Not quite Dan, the USB-Ethernet adapter has only ONE RJ-45 connection (from
your cable modem) [lhs of picture] and the USB plug tail [rhs of picture] plugs into (one of the four) USB sockets of the (potentially new) PCMCIA card (or USB 2.0 socket on a PC). The four 'apparent' slots along the side of the USB-Ethernet adapter are air vents and not multiple outputs. - Bummer! It's just a self powered (via USB from PC) Ethernet to USB 2.0 adapter. The point being that you be able to connect to your ISP and have 3 more USB 2.0 sockets for use simultaneously. Otherwise you'd have to keep swapping the PCMCIA cards for whenever you wanted Internet or USB 2.0. But it would make your existing PCMCIA - Ethernet card redundant. HTH Mart "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... That looks interesting Mart. Let's see if I understand it correctly. Instead of using a PCMCIA card to connect to cable, and another PCMCIA card to provide USB 2.0, I would use a USB2 to Ethernet Adapter with multi outputs, one of which would allow an RJ-45 connection for cable, and at least one of which would provide USB 2.0 connection. All for about $25 Cdn. If my understanding is correct, that's the route I will follow. I'm just on my way out but will look into to this upon my return later this afternoon. Thanks "Mart" wrote in message ... Sorry about the 'direction' - though you were US not Cdn. However, instead of clogging PCMCIA slots (assume you've only got one anyway) with an extra card, what about e.g. :- http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=172369 using one of the (new) four USB sockets, if you must go LAN/ethernet. Mart "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Yes Mart, cable internet via a PCMCIA connection. I think you went the wrong way in the conversion. 9 Pounds would equate to $20 Cdn but still worth checking out. Thanks Dan "Mart" wrote in message ... DD, you say your PC is a laptop - with PCMCIA? 4 port USB 2.0 - PCMCIA card - e.g. UK outlet :- http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...roductID=47728 Cheap (GBP 9.27 or about $5) and simple solution. Comes with drivers (98/2000/ME/XP) Works at full USB 2.0 speeds. Then add a USB WiFi stick e.g :- http://www.scan.co.uk/products/produ...oductID=534352 and you're back in the 21st Century. I'm sure you can find US equivalents. My old Toshiba Tecra 8000 (circa 1997/8) with inbuilt single USB 1.1 port, designed for Win98 but now with WinMe installed, works a treat with the extra 4 USB 2.0 ports at USB 2.0 speeds Hope that also answers Shane's point elsewhere on the thread. HTH Mart "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Thanks for responding, Zee, Shane. Norman, George and Harry. I thought it might just involve a driver download, but alas, nothing is so simple. In fact, the mobo does not support USB 2.0. So dearly beloved will have to plug her MP3 player into my Desktop to charge the battery. I assume we can purchase a USB 2.0 Controller via a pcmia slot, although I'm not sure if I understood that even with that, we will be limited to USB 1.1 speeds. Haven't looked into it but can probably also purchase a docking station, which may be the most cost effective option. Again Gentlemen, thanks for the education, it was greatly appreciated. Dan "webster72n" wrote in message ... "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Haven't had the need for USB 2.0 for our Win Me laptop until recently so had never really paid much attention to it. Evidently we need USB 2.0 to have the ability to charge an MP3 player. If I understand it correctly, for Win 98SE, one needs to buy software but for Win Me and later O/S's, the software may be downloaded by way of updating from the Microsoft website. If so, I can't seem to find that at the Microsoft download site. Don't think you will either, Dan, because they terminated support for WinME, besides those things which have been pointed out already by Zee, Shane and George. H. Would appreciate guidance at your convenience. Many thanks Dan |
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USB 2.0
Thanks for the clarification, Mart.
"Mart" wrote in message ... Not quite Dan, the USB-Ethernet adapter has only ONE RJ-45 connection (from your cable modem) [lhs of picture] and the USB plug tail [rhs of picture] plugs into (one of the four) USB sockets of the (potentially new) PCMCIA card (or USB 2.0 socket on a PC). The four 'apparent' slots along the side of the USB-Ethernet adapter are air vents and not multiple outputs. - Bummer! It's just a self powered (via USB from PC) Ethernet to USB 2.0 adapter. The point being that you be able to connect to your ISP and have 3 more USB 2.0 sockets for use simultaneously. Otherwise you'd have to keep swapping the PCMCIA cards for whenever you wanted Internet or USB 2.0. But it would make your existing PCMCIA - Ethernet card redundant. HTH Mart "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... That looks interesting Mart. Let's see if I understand it correctly. Instead of using a PCMCIA card to connect to cable, and another PCMCIA card to provide USB 2.0, I would use a USB2 to Ethernet Adapter with multi outputs, one of which would allow an RJ-45 connection for cable, and at least one of which would provide USB 2.0 connection. All for about $25 Cdn. If my understanding is correct, that's the route I will follow. I'm just on my way out but will look into to this upon my return later this afternoon. Thanks "Mart" wrote in message ... Sorry about the 'direction' - though you were US not Cdn. However, instead of clogging PCMCIA slots (assume you've only got one anyway) with an extra card, what about e.g. :- http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=172369 using one of the (new) four USB sockets, if you must go LAN/ethernet. Mart "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Yes Mart, cable internet via a PCMCIA connection. I think you went the wrong way in the conversion. 9 Pounds would equate to $20 Cdn but still worth checking out. Thanks Dan "Mart" wrote in message ... DD, you say your PC is a laptop - with PCMCIA? 4 port USB 2.0 - PCMCIA card - e.g. UK outlet :- http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...roductID=47728 Cheap (GBP 9.27 or about $5) and simple solution. Comes with drivers (98/2000/ME/XP) Works at full USB 2.0 speeds. Then add a USB WiFi stick e.g :- http://www.scan.co.uk/products/produ...oductID=534352 and you're back in the 21st Century. I'm sure you can find US equivalents. My old Toshiba Tecra 8000 (circa 1997/8) with inbuilt single USB 1.1 port, designed for Win98 but now with WinMe installed, works a treat with the extra 4 USB 2.0 ports at USB 2.0 speeds Hope that also answers Shane's point elsewhere on the thread. HTH Mart "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Thanks for responding, Zee, Shane. Norman, George and Harry. I thought it might just involve a driver download, but alas, nothing is so simple. In fact, the mobo does not support USB 2.0. So dearly beloved will have to plug her MP3 player into my Desktop to charge the battery. I assume we can purchase a USB 2.0 Controller via a pcmia slot, although I'm not sure if I understood that even with that, we will be limited to USB 1.1 speeds. Haven't looked into it but can probably also purchase a docking station, which may be the most cost effective option. Again Gentlemen, thanks for the education, it was greatly appreciated. Dan "webster72n" wrote in message ... "Dapper Dan" wrote in message ... Haven't had the need for USB 2.0 for our Win Me laptop until recently so had never really paid much attention to it. Evidently we need USB 2.0 to have the ability to charge an MP3 player. If I understand it correctly, for Win 98SE, one needs to buy software but for Win Me and later O/S's, the software may be downloaded by way of updating from the Microsoft website. If so, I can't seem to find that at the Microsoft download site. Don't think you will either, Dan, because they terminated support for WinME, besides those things which have been pointed out already by Zee, Shane and George. H. Would appreciate guidance at your convenience. Many thanks Dan |
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Shame we can't do it by sending you a box of ice cubes. It's not a
well-organised world is it. For a start you guys having Christmas in summer is a bit doolallee isn't it? Shane wrote: On Jan 24, 1:33 pm, "Shane" wrote: Mike M wrote: Shane wrote: Hi Mike. I just let Rosie out and saw it's snowing (and so far settling!) Acourst its warmer where you are isn't it. Warmer! It's bl$$dy freezing. :-)g Shane Don't complain too hard about the cold. Last Saturday and Sunday I measured 41 deg C and 42 deg C at my place west of Sydney. I'll swap you some of my hot for some of your cold!!! Cheers, BarryG |
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On that 40MB/s HDD, do you have a model number?
I might be interested in trying one since the best I've ever gotten out of mine is about 20MB/s and more typically around 16MB/s. My best guess is the limits of the HDD USB interface. The HDD itself is plenty fast to do better. That is if I pulled it from the box and hooked up as an IDE. Those claims all over the box it came in just are not true. After much digging, I found some online ads that capped it around 28MB/s. Still, I have never achieved that speed even. When USB2 was out, there were many posts about the speed issue, especially from those who had already been using firewire and most posted they were sticking with the firewire because it was much faster. I have no personal experience. Does anyone know if firewire has such preset sharing of bandwidth? Or what the real world expectations of firewire 400 or firewire 800 are? Norman "Mike M" wrote in message ... A USB 2.0 port will operate as a USB 2.0 port provided the necessary USB 2.0 drivers are installed. Much of what Norman said has no relevance to your problem other than that like Norman I admit to being surprised that your mp3 player requires a USB 2.0 connection to allow it to be charged as the voltages and current are the same regardless of whether the port is USB 1, 1.1 or 2.0. The difference between USB 1.0/1.1 and 2.0 is their speed with USB 1.1 rated at a maximum of 12Mbps and USB 2.0 480Mbps. That 480Mbps is not really achievable is immaterial but 120Mbps is and that is ten times faster than the theoretical maximum of USB 1.1. Note that some USB 2.0 Flash drives can hit 30MB/s (about 240Mbps) and some hard drives a little more (40MB/s) but transfer rates depend on what other activity there is on the PCI bus as well as the file make up, small files being slower to transfer than large. -- Mike Maltby Dapper Dan wrote: Thanks Mike. Just an additional question because I'm not sure if I understood Norman's point. If I should go the PCMIA route, will it perform to USB 2.0 or will it be limited to the USB 1.1 speeds. Thanks again. |
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