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Adobe Reader Security Hole
Mart, Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please. Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what (no contest as you say). Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad opinion of Foxit Reader! Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Zee wrote :- MUCH Lighter ???? FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb (Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download) Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder is 128 Mb !! No contest!! BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of XP. Might just uninstall and forget it. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... A quick comment: Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in Windows, IE and FF than previous versions. IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP). Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud' utility. Just find it useful sometimes g BTW - Happy NY Mart "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... I'm using Foxit Heather and like it. Joan Heather wrote: Copying this over from the spyware news group. Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is out. Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one. Cheers......Heather |
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Hi Zee,
As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between posts - and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of 'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to your suggestion to try AR 8.0. Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it only a very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which the speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT. That in itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll try to get my head around the 'new interface' tomorrow) I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy of AR on my PC. However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large - some 121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include the Chinese alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's THAT much 'smaller' Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should make other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it. Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... Mart, Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please. Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what (no contest as you say). Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad opinion of Foxit Reader! Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Zee wrote :- MUCH Lighter ???? FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb (Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download) Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder is 128 Mb !! No contest!! BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of XP. Might just uninstall and forget it. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... A quick comment: Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in Windows, IE and FF than previous versions. IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP). Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud' utility. Just find it useful sometimes g BTW - Happy NY Mart "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... I'm using Foxit Heather and like it. Joan Heather wrote: Copying this over from the spyware news group. Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is out. Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one. Cheers......Heather |
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Hi Mart, Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0. Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward. Cheers, Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Hi Zee, As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between posts - and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of 'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to your suggestion to try AR 8.0. Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it only a very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which the speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT. That in itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll try to get my head around the 'new interface' tomorrow) I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy of AR on my PC. However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large - some 121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include the Chinese alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's THAT much 'smaller' Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should make other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it. Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... Mart, Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please. Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what (no contest as you say). Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad opinion of Foxit Reader! Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Zee wrote :- MUCH Lighter ???? FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb (Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download) Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder is 128 Mb !! No contest!! BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of XP. Might just uninstall and forget it. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... A quick comment: Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in Windows, IE and FF than previous versions. IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP). Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud' utility. Just find it useful sometimes g BTW - Happy NY Mart "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... I'm using Foxit Heather and like it. Joan Heather wrote: Copying this over from the spyware news group. Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is out. Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one. Cheers......Heather |
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oops!! wrote:
Hi Mart, Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0. Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward. Cheers, Zee I wish they would release the Spanish version of 8. Alias "Mart" wrote in message ... Hi Zee, As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between posts - and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of 'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to your suggestion to try AR 8.0. Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it only a very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which the speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT. That in itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll try to get my head around the 'new interface' tomorrow) I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy of AR on my PC. However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large - some 121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include the Chinese alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's THAT much 'smaller' Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should make other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it. Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... Mart, Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please. Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what (no contest as you say). Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad opinion of Foxit Reader! Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Zee wrote :- MUCH Lighter ???? FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb (Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download) Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder is 128 Mb !! No contest!! BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of XP. Might just uninstall and forget it. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... A quick comment: Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in Windows, IE and FF than previous versions. IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP). Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud' utility. Just find it useful sometimes g BTW - Happy NY Mart "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... I'm using Foxit Heather and like it. Joan Heather wrote: Copying this over from the spyware news group. Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is out. Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one. Cheers......Heather |
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Adobe Reader Security Hole
"Alias" wrote in message ... oops!! wrote: Hi Mart, Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0. Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward. Cheers, Zee I wish they would release the Spanish version of 8. Alias It seems you still have a long wait... Winter 2007! http://www.adobe.com/products/reader...nfo/languages/ Zee |
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oops!! wrote:
"Alias" wrote in message ... oops!! wrote: Hi Mart, Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0. Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward. Cheers, Zee I wish they would release the Spanish version of 8. Alias It seems you still have a long wait... Winter 2007! http://www.adobe.com/products/reader...nfo/languages/ Zee Seems they will have an update to fix the problem next week. Alias |
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Adobe Reader Security Hole
Zee,
Just found this article on the BBC web site. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6234181.stm Paranoia? In spite of the new 'secure' AR 8.0, I wonder does FoxiT suffer the v7.0 and less security shortcomings. AR (in general) doesn't have an awful lot going for it I suppose g Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... Hi Mart, Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0. Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward. Cheers, Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Hi Zee, As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between posts - and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of 'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to your suggestion to try AR 8.0. Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it only a very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which the speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT. That in itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll try to get my head around the 'new interface' tomorrow) I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy of AR on my PC. However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large - some 121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include the Chinese alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's THAT much 'smaller' Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should make other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it. Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... Mart, Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please. Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what (no contest as you say). Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad opinion of Foxit Reader! Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Zee wrote :- MUCH Lighter ???? FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb (Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download) Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder is 128 Mb !! No contest!! BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of XP. Might just uninstall and forget it. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... A quick comment: Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in Windows, IE and FF than previous versions. IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP). Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud' utility. Just find it useful sometimes g BTW - Happy NY Mart "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... I'm using Foxit Heather and like it. Joan Heather wrote: Copying this over from the spyware news group. Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is out. Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one. Cheers......Heather |
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Mart, Foxit has no vulnerabilities reported at Secunia: http://secunia.com/vendor/1850/ I believe this is one of those "popularity" issues, more popular programs have higher probabilities of being hit by hackers, malware designers, etc. See IE vs. FF, Linux vs. Windows, etc. etc. etc. Perhaps Mike M has some fresh ideas about your doubt. I can't answer it... Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Zee, Just found this article on the BBC web site. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6234181.stm Paranoia? In spite of the new 'secure' AR 8.0, I wonder does FoxiT suffer the v7.0 and less security shortcomings. AR (in general) doesn't have an awful lot going for it I suppose g Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... Hi Mart, Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0. Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward. Cheers, Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Hi Zee, As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between posts - and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of 'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to your suggestion to try AR 8.0. Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it only a very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which the speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT. That in itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll try to get my head around the 'new interface' tomorrow) I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy of AR on my PC. However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large - some 121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include the Chinese alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's THAT much 'smaller' Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should make other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it. Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... Mart, Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please. Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what (no contest as you say). Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad opinion of Foxit Reader! Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Zee wrote :- MUCH Lighter ???? FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb (Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download) Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder is 128 Mb !! No contest!! BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of XP. Might just uninstall and forget it. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... A quick comment: Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in Windows, IE and FF than previous versions. IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP). Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud' utility. Just find it useful sometimes g BTW - Happy NY Mart "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... I'm using Foxit Heather and like it. Joan Heather wrote: Copying this over from the spyware news group. Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is out. Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one. Cheers......Heather |
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Zee, I am using both, Foxit and AR at will, to suit my needs: the last free version AR 6.0 and the latest of Foxit Reader. Also trying to avoid using the plug-ins for AR and see no risk in either program. In the end personal preference plays a big role. Harry. "oops!!" wrote in message ... Mart, Foxit has no vulnerabilities reported at Secunia: http://secunia.com/vendor/1850/ I believe this is one of those "popularity" issues, more popular programs have higher probabilities of being hit by hackers, malware designers, etc. See IE vs. FF, Linux vs. Windows, etc. etc. etc. Perhaps Mike M has some fresh ideas about your doubt. I can't answer it... Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Zee, Just found this article on the BBC web site. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6234181.stm Paranoia? In spite of the new 'secure' AR 8.0, I wonder does FoxiT suffer the v7.0 and less security shortcomings. AR (in general) doesn't have an awful lot going for it I suppose g Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... Hi Mart, Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0. Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward. Cheers, Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Hi Zee, As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between posts - and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of 'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to your suggestion to try AR 8.0. Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it only a very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which the speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT. That in itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll try to get my head around the 'new interface' tomorrow) I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy of AR on my PC. However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large - some 121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include the Chinese alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's THAT much 'smaller' Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should make other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it. Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... Mart, Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please. Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what (no contest as you say). Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad opinion of Foxit Reader! Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Zee wrote :- MUCH Lighter ???? FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb (Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download) Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder is 128 Mb !! No contest!! BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of XP. Might just uninstall and forget it. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... A quick comment: Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in Windows, IE and FF than previous versions. IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP). Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud' utility. Just find it useful sometimes g BTW - Happy NY Mart "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... I'm using Foxit Heather and like it. Joan Heather wrote: Copying this over from the spyware news group. Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is out. Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one. Cheers......Heather |
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My verdict on AR 8.0:
I just reverted to 7.0.8. For one there are no (known) security holes if you disable all the fluff and just use it as a basic PDF viewer, which is all you need it for. Tell me once again - whats the benefit of displaying in the browser? In Edit/Preferences disable viewing in the browser, disable speculative downloading in the background, disable adobe javascript, disable allowing documents to open other files, etc. Disable the the part concerned with certificates (do that in XP too actually - not because its a vulnerability but because it is not in any way a security enhancement. Its just MS commercialisation - http://www.jsware.net/jsware/iewacky.php3 for a pretty good explanation). In View/Toolbars disable searching the internet. Otherwise, 7.0.8 had improved considerably in that ar speedup was no longer necessary - it starts almost immediately (just takes 2 years to install in the first place!). All it really leaves to complain about is using so much disk space - but who is *that* pushed for disk space today? Not enough to push the software beyond the pale anyway! So why have I reverted from 8.0 to 7.0.8? Because 8.0 no longer provides an option to disable checking for updates! In 7.0.8, bottom of the list in Edit/Preferences (unless in previous versions you'd already disabled it with ar speedup) is *Updates*, from whence one could turn updating off. Not there anymore! Now, to retain control of your own computer you have to block it with the firewall (maybe you can do it via the registry or some other complex method, but I haven't looked into it and that misses the point anyway). Of course, block it in the firewall and you have to disable the rule to check via the software (as opposed to going to the site), which is unnecessary in 7.0.8 - you can still manually click 'check for updates'. So unless - like some of you - you automatically trust businesses and unlike me are not control freaks, Adobe Reader 8.0 will do, I guess. But otherwise sound of lav being flushed Shane oops!! wrote: Hi Mart, Glad you tried it and were positively impressed with AR 8.0. Everyone running v. 7 should upgrade. It is indeed a step forward. Cheers, Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Hi Zee, As it happened, I had actually just uninstalled AR 7.0 - between posts - and hadn't really intended trying AR 8.0. However, in the interests of 'Good Will on the WinMe News Groups', you understand, I succumbed to your suggestion to try AR 8.0. Bearing in mind that I've literally just installed it and given it only a very brief 'test', I have to say I'm certainly impressed with which the speed of opening has VASTLY improved - probably as fast as FoxiT. That in itself has to be worth the upgrade - if nothing else. (I'll try to get my head around the 'new interface' tomorrow) I was pleased to see (hear!) that the 'Read Out Loud' feature has been retained - which will now probably 'twist my arm' into keeping a copy of AR on my PC. However, (there had to be a 'however), the footprint is still large - some 121 Mb. BTW- the previous footprint of 130 Mb did also include the Chinese alphabet characters plug-in. So I don't really know if it's THAT much 'smaller' Jury's out, but the much needed and overdue 'rapid startup' should make other disillusioned users think twice before dumping it. Thanks Zee, for pushing me into installing and trying it, though. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... Mart, Try Adobe Reader 8 and comment afterwards please. Version 7 is, no doubt at all, a system hog and a piece of you know what (no contest as you say). Keep in mind I am not and have no intentions of passing onwards a bad opinion of Foxit Reader! Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Zee wrote :- MUCH Lighter ???? FoxitReader 2.0 @ 3.7 Mb (installed) vs.Adobe Reader 7.0 @ 20 Mb (Download) vs. Adobe Reader 8.0 @ 21 Mb(Download) Hell's bells - the installed ARE 7.0 folder in my Program Files folder is 128 Mb !! No contest!! BTW - My existing copy of AR v 7.0 is beginning to fail on shut-down of XP. Might just uninstall and forget it. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... A quick comment: Adobe Reader 8 is much lighter and seems to be better integrated in Windows, IE and FF than previous versions. IMHO you should give it a try (it runs only on WinXP). Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Ditto here Joan, only (tiny) feature I miss is the 'Real Out Loud' utility. Just find it useful sometimes g BTW - Happy NY Mart "Joan Archer" wrote in message ... I'm using Foxit Heather and like it. Joan Heather wrote: Copying this over from the spyware news group. Mike.....is Foxit the one you are using?? I see a new version is out. Think I will get rid of that bloated Adobe reader and use this one. Cheers......Heather |
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