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WinME PC slows down ADSLMax speed
I've recently had my broadband connection upgraded to ADSLMax ( up to
8mbps). I run 3 PCs off a Netgear DG834G wireless router/modem. Two are running on Windows XP and 1 runs on WinME. If I run one or both XP machines there is no problem getting a synch speed of over 3.5 mbps but if I boot up the WinME machine it immediately forces a disconnection of the router which then always resynchs at a speed just below 1 mbps. It seems like the WinME PC is throttling the speed of the connection. I've tried various RWIN MTU tweaks to no avail. Does WinME have a 1mbps speed limit? Has anyone achieved higher speeds on WinME? Is there a setting in WinME which I have overlooked which could cause this? Terry_P |
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WinME PC slows down ADSLMax speed
Terry,
What you have connected to your router should have no effect on the connection your router has with your ISP and the internet. I am using the same router (DG834G) and have machines running Win 98SE, Win Me, XP, Vista and variations of Linux connected to the router both wired and using wireless. The synch speed with the exchange is controlled by the wiring between your router and the exchange, not what is connected to the router, with distance to the exchange and quality of the wiring being factors. Simply turning on a PC should not cause the problems you are reporting but check that the problem isn't a faulty power circuit with perhaps the Win Me box causing a power spike that causes the router to reboot. Remember that the DSLAM in your local exchange has no idea as to what you have connected to your LAN, all it can "see" is your router. Win Me will not limit your connection speed. MTU has nothing to do with disconnection. There are no settings in Win Me that have any effect on the state of the connection between your router and the exchange, Win Me and higher speeds, my router is permanently synched at 7.5Mbps or better regardless of what I have connected to my LAN. And yes, I am in the UK and have been on an 8Mbps service for more than a year although not using a service provided by BT Openwoe. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Windows Terry_P wrote: I've recently had my broadband connection upgraded to ADSLMax ( up to 8mbps). I run 3 PCs off a Netgear DG834G wireless router/modem. Two are running on Windows XP and 1 runs on WinME. If I run one or both XP machines there is no problem getting a synch speed of over 3.5 mbps but if I boot up the WinME machine it immediately forces a disconnection of the router which then always resynchs at a speed just below 1 mbps. It seems like the WinME PC is throttling the speed of the connection. I've tried various RWIN MTU tweaks to no avail. Does WinME have a 1mbps speed limit? Has anyone achieved higher speeds on WinME? Is there a setting in WinME which I have overlooked which could cause this? |
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WinME PC slows down ADSLMax speed
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:16:14 +0100, Mike M wrote:
Terry, What you have connected to your router should have no effect on the connection your router has with your ISP and the internet. I am using the same router (DG834G) and have machines running Win 98SE, Win Me, XP, Vista and variations of Linux connected to the router both wired and using wireless. The synch speed with the exchange is controlled by the wiring between your router and the exchange, not what is connected to the router, with distance to the exchange and quality of the wiring being factors. Simply turning on a PC should not cause the problems you are reporting but check that the problem isn't a faulty power circuit with perhaps the Win Me box causing a power spike that causes the router to reboot. Remember that the DSLAM in your local exchange has no idea as to what you have connected to your LAN, all it can "see" is your router. Win Me will not limit your connection speed. MTU has nothing to do with disconnection. There are no settings in Win Me that have any effect on the state of the connection between your router and the exchange, Win Me and higher speeds, my router is permanently synched at 7.5Mbps or better regardless of what I have connected to my LAN. And yes, I am in the UK and have been on an 8Mbps service for more than a year although not using a service provided by BT Openwoe. Mike, Thanks for teaching me how to suck eggs! I know and agree basically with what you say but you are not differentiating between router synch speed and *actual* download speed achieved on different PCs connected to the same router. Through extensive testing I have now proved to my own satisfaction that a PC running WinME will provide an actual download speed much less (perhaps only 55% or 60%) of that on a PC running Windows XP or Linux for the same router synch speed. I have tested on 2 similar PCs running WinME but with different network cards. One of the PCs also double boots to Linux and the comparative results prove to me that my results are independent of hardware differences. I invite anyone who is sceptical to carry out their own tests. Terry_P Terry_P |
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WinME PC slows down ADSLMax speed
Terry,
I know and agree basically with what you say but you are not differentiating between router synch speed and *actual* download speed achieved on different PCs connected to the same router. Why should since I observe none? Further you have now changed the problem so which exactly is it? What I did was address the problem as originally stated, that Win Me was forcing your router to disconnect and then re-connect with a lower synch rate. Something that a PC on your LAN is most unlikely to do unless you choose to do this by either logging on to the router using its web interface or using telnet to access the router's command line interface. Through extensive testing I have now proved to my own satisfaction that a PC running WinME will provide an actual download speed much less (perhaps only 55% or 60%) of that on a PC running Windows XP or Linux for the same router synch speed. No not "a" PC running Win Me but rather YOUR PC when running Win Me. As I stated in my previous message I have never observed slower downloads to a PC running Win Me from any other. If your Win Me PC downloads from the net slower than your other PCs look to your network card and its drivers. How is your Win Me PC connecting to the router, wired or wireless? What make and model network card or wireless card does the PC have? What speeds do you see when transferring files to and from the Win Me PC to other machines on your LAN? I invite anyone who is sceptical to carry out their own tests. It appears you had difficulties when reading and taking in my initial post. I have just checked my Win Me PC and downloaded the SP2 service pack for XP (226MB) at 570KBps. It would probably have been a fair bit faster as I am currently synched at 7488 kbps if I had chosen to stop all activity on my LAN which I did not and thus not all my external bandwidth was available. In conclusion, the problem is not with the operating system so look to your hardware and drivers. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Windows Terry_P wrote: Thanks for teaching me how to suck eggs! I know and agree basically with what you say but you are not differentiating between router synch speed and *actual* download speed achieved on different PCs connected to the same router. Through extensive testing I have now proved to my own satisfaction that a PC running WinME will provide an actual download speed much less (perhaps only 55% or 60%) of that on a PC running Windows XP or Linux for the same router synch speed. I have tested on 2 similar PCs running WinME but with different network cards. One of the PCs also double boots to Linux and the comparative results prove to me that my results are independent of hardware differences. I invite anyone who is sceptical to carry out their own tests. |
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WinME PC slows down ADSLMax speed
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:41:04 +0100, Terry_P wrote:
I've recently had my broadband connection upgraded to ADSLMax ( up to 8mbps). I run 3 PCs off a Netgear DG834G wireless router/modem. Two are running on Windows XP and 1 runs on WinME. If I run one or both XP machines there is no problem getting a synch speed of over 3.5 mbps but if I boot up the WinME machine it immediately forces a disconnection of the router which then always resynchs at a speed just below 1 mbps. It seems like the WinME PC is throttling the speed of the connection. I've tried various RWIN MTU tweaks to no avail. Does WinME have a 1mbps speed limit? Has anyone achieved higher speeds on WinME? Is there a setting in WinME which I have overlooked which could cause this? No, Windows ME has no speed limit. I ran my HP Pavilion 6745C on a Comcast connection last week, and saw the full 4Mbits/sec down that the connection was established for. Your modem shouldn't be losing synch over a computer connection. I've never worked with a combo unit, though, so I don't know what to look for. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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WinME PC slows down ADSLMax speed
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:03:03 +0100, Terry_P wrote:
Through extensive testing I have now proved to my own satisfaction that a PC running WinME will provide an actual download speed much less (perhaps only 55% or 60%) of that on a PC running Windows XP or Linux for the same router synch speed. I have tested on 2 similar PCs running WinME but with different network cards. One of the PCs also double boots to Linux and the comparative results prove to me that my results are independent of hardware differences. I invite anyone who is sceptical to carry out their own tests. I synch at 1536kbits/sec: | Modem Information | Modem Name SpeedStream | Model 4100 | Software Version 1.0.0.53 | | Statistics | | ADSL Information | Line State UP | Modulation ANSI | Data Path fast | | To Modem To Internet | Max Allowed Speed (kbps) 1536 384 | SN Margin (dB) 12.5 - | Line Attenuation (dB) 49.0 - | Loss of Signal 0 - | Loss of Frame 0 0 | CRC Errors 1179 5 I routinely see 139kBytes/sec on BT downloads. This SS4100 does not have a normal router function, so I run a Netgear FR114P between modem and router. Computer is an HP Pavilion 6745C with Windows ME running. Last week I connected it to a relative's LAN on Comcast cable. HP Pavilion 6745C SMC Barricade 7004BR RCA cable modem. BT downloaded a Linux Live-CD ISO image at 445kBytes/sec. It is unlikely that Windows ME was limiting the download there. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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