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Old June 27th 04, 07:56 AM
Bev mulcahy
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Default Start up problems

Everytime I turn my computer on it loads everything as
normal and I have all the icons on my desktop and then it
just hangs there trying to load some programs. The only
way I can seem to fix it is by doing Ctrl-Alt-Del and
ending the programme that is not responding. A lot of the
time (but not all of the time) it says it is Explorer that
is not responding. I'm sick of it - any ideas would be
appreciated
Thanks
Bev

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Old June 27th 04, 11:34 AM
Don Phillipson
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"Bev mulcahy" wrote in message
...

Everytime I turn my computer on it loads everything as
normal and I have all the icons on my desktop and then it
just hangs there trying to load some programs. The only
way I can seem to fix it is by doing Ctrl-Alt-Del and
ending the programme that is not responding. A lot of the
time (but not all of the time) it says it is Explorer that
is not responding. I'm sick of it - any ideas would be


You need to simplify the problem e.g.
1. Delete junk files (empty / Recycled and
delete Temp Internet History) and then
SCANDISK and possibly DEFRAG.
2. Reduce the quantity of software that
loads on boot. Write down the total list,
start with a clean boot, and see whether
one particular load starts the trouble.
3. You may have clutter or contradictions
in your Registry. Some people use Registry
utilities. I use and recommend Fix-It Utilities
(www.v-com.com)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)


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Old June 27th 04, 01:35 PM
H Leboeuf
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Default Start up problems

Can you start in safe mode?

How to Start a Windows 98-Based Computer in Safe Mode
To start a Windows 98-based computer in Safe mode, use any of the 3 methods.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=180902

Quoted from the article.
To start a Windows 98-based computer in Safe mode, use any of the following
methods.
Method 1
Restart your computer.
While your computer restarts, press and hold the CTRL key until the Windows
98 Startup menu is displayed.

NOTE: If you are using the EZDrive tool, press F8 instead of CTRL.
Select the Safe Mode menu option from the Startup menu, and then press
ENTER.

Method 2
Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, point to System Tools,
and then click System Information.
On the Tools menu, click System Configuration Utility.
Click Advanced, and then click to select the Enable Startup Menu check box.
Click OK, click OK, and then restart your computer when you are prompted to
do so.
Select the Safe Mode menu option from the Startup menu, and then press
ENTER.

Method 3
Insert a non-bootable floppy disk in the floppy disk drive, and then restart
your computer.
When you receive the "Non-system disk or disk error. Replace and strike any
key when ready" error message, remove the floppy disk from the floppy disk
drive.
Press F8, and then press F8. When you do this, the Windows 98 Startup menu
is displayed.
Select the Safe Mode menu option from the Startup menu, and then press
ENTER.

Method 4
Restart your computer in MS-DOS Mode.
From a command prompt type "win /d:m" without the quotation marks.
--

If you do, then from the Start/Run applet execute MSCONFIG look under
StartUp list.
Disable all except explorer and systray.

Reboot normally, if all is well then one of the programs that is started is
the culprit.
By trial and error you may be able to find out which one.

If you can get to the web, then lookup the processes here and find out which
one may be bad. If you cannot connect, post the list of processes and will
check it out.
START-UP APPLICATIONS
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm
The complete list
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup...tartup_all.php


Henri Leboeuf
Web page: http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/index.htm
===

"Bev mulcahy" wrote in message
...
Everytime I turn my computer on it loads everything as
normal and I have all the icons on my desktop and then it
just hangs there trying to load some programs. The only
way I can seem to fix it is by doing Ctrl-Alt-Del and
ending the programme that is not responding. A lot of the
time (but not all of the time) it says it is Explorer that
is not responding. I'm sick of it - any ideas would be
appreciated
Thanks
Bev


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Old June 27th 04, 07:32 PM
PCR
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First pick one of these to identify what loads at boot. Next, see
whether there is an option in it's menus to disable it from starting up.
If you really want to rid yourself of it on a more permanent basis, then
look for it in "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs". However, it isn't
often easy to know what is what in there. One of these URL's may say.
Only last, go to StartUpCop.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q137367
Startup Items
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../q179/3/65.asp
Startup Group
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q282107 Startup
http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm
http://users.westelcom.com/rogersr/clean.htm
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/sheppard.p/startup.htm
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Taskl...tasklist_a.htm
http://www.djbdesigns.com/wtvzone/startup.html
http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.htm
http://www.sysinfo.org/startupinfo.php
http://www2.cajun.net/~theriots/blk/start.htm
http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/Uncheck.htm
http://www.3feetunder.com/krick/startup/list.html

http://www.pcmag.com/ 's StartUpCop has "undo", and it is more than a
combination of "START, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Startup
Programs" and "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab". It can even do a
permanent delete. Of course, first see whether the app has an option in
it's own menus to remove itself from the Startup Group. This is
configurable, and one may maintain multiple configurations.

Update definitions & check for viruses, and...
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.htm#tshoot
http://patrick.kolla.de/spybotsd.html SpyBot- Search & Destroy. SpyBot
is gabby in it's "Checks" & "Fixes" logs. Turn them off in "Settings".
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ AdAware
http://www.lavasoftusa.de/ Also AdAware
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html CoolWebSearch Chronicles
http://www.merijn.org/files/cwshredder.zip & CWShredder
http://www.merijn.org/files/hijackthis.zip Finally, Hijack This
http://aumha.org/a/hjttutor.htm
Hijack This Logs Tutorial-- MUST read!
....may find something. (Actually, they certainly will.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bev mulcahy" wrote in message
...
| Everytime I turn my computer on it loads everything as
| normal and I have all the icons on my desktop and then it
| just hangs there trying to load some programs. The only
| way I can seem to fix it is by doing Ctrl-Alt-Del and
| ending the programme that is not responding. A lot of the
| time (but not all of the time) it says it is Explorer that
| is not responding. I'm sick of it - any ideas would be
| appreciated
| Thanks
| Bev
|


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Old June 28th 04, 07:03 AM
Bev Mulcahy
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Default Start up problems

Yes I can start in safe mode and I then went into
msconfig.exe. I disabled all items except systray but I
couldn't see explorer in the list? Still having the same
problem and it says explorer (not responding). Where is
it and should it be there?
Bev

-----Original Message-----
Can you start in safe mode?

How to Start a Windows 98-Based Computer in Safe Mode
To start a Windows 98-based computer in Safe mode, use

any of the 3 methods.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=180902

Quoted from the article.
To start a Windows 98-based computer in Safe mode, use

any of the following
methods.
Method 1
Restart your computer.
While your computer restarts, press and hold the CTRL key

until the Windows
98 Startup menu is displayed.

NOTE: If you are using the EZDrive tool, press F8 instead

of CTRL.
Select the Safe Mode menu option from the Startup menu,

and then press
ENTER.

Method 2
Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories,

point to System Tools,
and then click System Information.
On the Tools menu, click System Configuration Utility.
Click Advanced, and then click to select the Enable

Startup Menu check box.
Click OK, click OK, and then restart your computer when

you are prompted to
do so.
Select the Safe Mode menu option from the Startup menu,

and then press
ENTER.

Method 3
Insert a non-bootable floppy disk in the floppy disk

drive, and then restart
your computer.
When you receive the "Non-system disk or disk error.

Replace and strike any
key when ready" error message, remove the floppy disk

from the floppy disk
drive.
Press F8, and then press F8. When you do this, the

Windows 98 Startup menu
is displayed.
Select the Safe Mode menu option from the Startup menu,

and then press
ENTER.

Method 4
Restart your computer in MS-DOS Mode.
From a command prompt type "win /d:m" without the

quotation marks.
--

If you do, then from the Start/Run applet execute

MSCONFIG look under
StartUp list.
Disable all except explorer and systray.

Reboot normally, if all is well then one of the programs

that is started is
the culprit.
By trial and error you may be able to find out which one.

If you can get to the web, then lookup the processes here

and find out which
one may be bad. If you cannot connect, post the list of

processes and will
check it out.
START-UP APPLICATIONS
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm
The complete list
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup...tartup_all.php


Henri Leboeuf
Web page: http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/index.htm
===

"Bev mulcahy" wrote in message
...
Everytime I turn my computer on it loads everything as
normal and I have all the icons on my desktop and then

it
just hangs there trying to load some programs. The only
way I can seem to fix it is by doing Ctrl-Alt-Del and
ending the programme that is not responding. A lot of

the
time (but not all of the time) it says it is Explorer

that
is not responding. I'm sick of it - any ideas would be
appreciated
Thanks
Bev


.

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Old June 28th 04, 07:56 PM
PCR
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Explorer & IE are basically one & the same. Therefore, may as well try
this write-up, originally from a Gateway WEB site, which is a temporary
reversion to an earlier version of IE...

ONE THING: Do nothing more than stated here using Winfile, because, if
you move a file with it, you will lose that file's LFN (Long File Name)
in the destination.

Desktop Icons and Taskbar Are Missing

Affected Products: Software, System CDs
Affected Operating Systems: Windows® 98 , Windows® 98 SE,
Windows® Me

ISSUE: After starting Microsoft® Windows® 98 or Windows
Me, the taskbar is missing and there are no icons. When
starting Windows, the taskbar may flash on for a brief
second and then disappear. The only display visible is the
background wallpaper and the mouse cursor. Pressing
CTRL+ALT+DELETE brings up the Close Program dialog box,
but selecting End Task on the items on the list may not
have an effect. When the computer is started into Safe
mode, the issue still occurs. Running Scanreg /Restore
does not resolve the issue.

There have been several reports that the issue occurred
when restarting the computer after receiving a dialog box
that displays "Virus/spyware found. Do you wish to
remove?" or "Do you want to install Spyware Monitor?" The
dialog box only has Yes or No selections, and selecting
either can cause the issue. There is no X to close the
dialog box, however pressing CTRL+ALT+DELETE to bring up
the Close Program dialog box lists a "Remove found
spyware?" entry, which can be end tasked.

(1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down.

(2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold
CTRL as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in
one-second intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the
Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and
Windows starts up normally, repeat this step.

(3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select
"Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key.

(4) At the command prompt, type:
EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
Press ENTER.

(3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the
[boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the
third line in the file.

(4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe"
text and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the
following:
Shell=Winfile.exe

(5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.

(6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X
key to exit.

(7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt.
(TAB would move you to the next button.)

(8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the
CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the
Windows File Manager (Winfile.exe).

(9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left hand
window to open the Program Files folder.

(10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the
Internet Explorer folder.

(11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup
folder.

(12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right
hand window to launch Internet Explorer setup.

NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not
been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be
restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, & post
back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an
over-install of IE.

(13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click
OK.

(14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the previous
version of Internet Explorer.

(15) Internet Explorer setup removes components.

(16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows
dialog box, click Restart Windows.

When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or
begin pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this
step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If
no menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step.

(17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select
Command prompt only, and then press ENTER.

(18) At the command prompt, type:
EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
Press ENTER.

(19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under
the [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the
third line in the file.

(20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe"
text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the
following:
Shell=Explorer.exe

(21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.

(22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X
key to exit.

(23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt.
(TAB would move you to the next button.)

(24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the
CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys

(25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be
accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When
finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an
older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You
should update your antivirus software, and then perform
Windows Update to install a new version of Internet
Explorer again.

....snip

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];249191
Blank Desktop or Illegal Operations Error Message After You Install
Internet Explorer. This is a temporary reversion to an earlier IE, IF
that option is present.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=293174
Over-Install IE in Progman. This is an over-install of IE. I have a
detailed write-up for it, if you want.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bev Mulcahy" wrote in message
...
| Yes I can start in safe mode and I then went into
| msconfig.exe. I disabled all items except systray but I
| couldn't see explorer in the list? Still having the same
| problem and it says explorer (not responding). Where is
| it and should it be there?
| Bev
|
| -----Original Message-----
| Can you start in safe mode?
|
| How to Start a Windows 98-Based Computer in Safe Mode
| To start a Windows 98-based computer in Safe mode, use
| any of the 3 methods.
|
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=180902
|
| Quoted from the article.
| To start a Windows 98-based computer in Safe mode, use
| any of the following
| methods.
| Method 1
| Restart your computer.
| While your computer restarts, press and hold the CTRL key
| until the Windows
| 98 Startup menu is displayed.
|
| NOTE: If you are using the EZDrive tool, press F8 instead
| of CTRL.
| Select the Safe Mode menu option from the Startup menu,
| and then press
| ENTER.
|
| Method 2
| Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories,
| point to System Tools,
| and then click System Information.
| On the Tools menu, click System Configuration Utility.
| Click Advanced, and then click to select the Enable
| Startup Menu check box.
| Click OK, click OK, and then restart your computer when
| you are prompted to
| do so.
| Select the Safe Mode menu option from the Startup menu,
| and then press
| ENTER.
|
| Method 3
| Insert a non-bootable floppy disk in the floppy disk
| drive, and then restart
| your computer.
| When you receive the "Non-system disk or disk error.
| Replace and strike any
| key when ready" error message, remove the floppy disk
| from the floppy disk
| drive.
| Press F8, and then press F8. When you do this, the
| Windows 98 Startup menu
| is displayed.
| Select the Safe Mode menu option from the Startup menu,
| and then press
| ENTER.
|
| Method 4
| Restart your computer in MS-DOS Mode.
| From a command prompt type "win /d:m" without the
| quotation marks.
| --
|
| If you do, then from the Start/Run applet execute
| MSCONFIG look under
| StartUp list.
| Disable all except explorer and systray.
|
| Reboot normally, if all is well then one of the programs
| that is started is
| the culprit.
| By trial and error you may be able to find out which one.
|
| If you can get to the web, then lookup the processes here
| and find out which
| one may be bad. If you cannot connect, post the list of
| processes and will
| check it out.
| START-UP APPLICATIONS
| http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm
| The complete list
| http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup...tartup_all.php
|
|
| Henri Leboeuf
| Web page: http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/index.htm
| ===
|
| "Bev mulcahy" wrote in message
| ...
| Everytime I turn my computer on it loads everything as
| normal and I have all the icons on my desktop and then
| it
| just hangs there trying to load some programs. The only
| way I can seem to fix it is by doing Ctrl-Alt-Del and
| ending the programme that is not responding. A lot of
| the
| time (but not all of the time) it says it is Explorer
| that
| is not responding. I'm sick of it - any ideas would be
| appreciated
| Thanks
| Bev
|
|
| .
|


 




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