Windows 98SE on MSI K8N Neo Platinum

After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to instal
W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my XP PRO
system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I will
probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks).
However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98
(which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD:
"Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some
child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode
drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been
halted to prevent corruption.

After you restart your computer, Windows will use compatibility-mode drivers
for each child device attached to this multi-finction device. If you want to
use 32-bit drivers, you may be able to obtain an updated driver for the
device that caused the problem by contacting your hardware manufacturer, or
you can disable the device.

Press any key to continue"

***********************

Pressing key did nothing: system was hung. Restarted.

Can anyone please explain what the BSOD message means as I Have NEVER come
across anything like this before. What does the reference to "child devices"
mean?

The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and
Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard
Drives are connected.

Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD
devices. This configuration has been in being for some time.

Needless to say, the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot
of components as the system failed to recognise the 2 x DVD/CDs, and thus I
couldn't get to the routines during the latter part of the W98 instal.

Can anyone help as I am going mad.

Thanks

Win98 can't work with more than one primary and one secondary standard IDE
controllers. But SATA controller works as the second primary and second
secondary standard IDE controllers.

As I see,
Primary IDE is not used
-- so disable it in BIOS. Read your motherboard manual how to do that;
moreover, it has to be said there also, that you MUST either disable one of
the standard PATA (IDE) controllers, or not to attach the SATA drivers if in
Win98.

the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot of components

After Win98 will work -- install the driver for motherboard from the CD that
came with it, and the drivers for the other components of this motherboards
after that (from the same CD).

--
Mikhail Zhilin
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:29:39 +0100, "TonyK" wrote:

After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to instal
W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my XP PRO
system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I will
probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks).
However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98
(which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD:
"Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some
child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode
drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been
halted to prevent corruption.

After you restart your computer, Windows will use compatibility-mode drivers
for each child device attached to this multi-finction device. If you want to
use 32-bit drivers, you may be able to obtain an updated driver for the
device that caused the problem by contacting your hardware manufacturer, or
you can disable the device.

Press any key to continue"

***********************

Pressing key did nothing: system was hung. Restarted.

Can anyone please explain what the BSOD message means as I Have NEVER come
across anything like this before. What does the reference to "child devices"
mean?

The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and
Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard
Drives are connected.

Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD
devices. This configuration has been in being for some time.

Needless to say, the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot
of components as the system failed to recognise the 2 x DVD/CDs, and thus I
couldn't get to the routines during the latter part of the W98 instal.

Can anyone help as I am going mad.

Thanks

After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to
instal W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my
XP PRO system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS).

What do you mean, get your XP to copy it? What exactly are you trying to
do?

However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98

If you are installing to a fresh (blank) partition, I do not understand how
you could be having this problem. Please tell us exactly how you tried to
do the installation. Or, try the installation procedures listed he
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html
--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

Thanks.
You've answered it for me. I won't change anything permanently as the move
to W98 was to access XP PRO which is acting up. Indeed (and I know it's not
the right NG) I have set XP PRO to repair itself to day and it is nearly
finished after about 7 hours. What can that mean?
Thanks again
"Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message
...
Win98 can't work with more than one primary and one secondary standard IDE
controllers. But SATA controller works as the second primary and second
secondary standard IDE controllers.

As I see,
Primary IDE is not used
-- so disable it in BIOS. Read your motherboard manual how to do that;
moreover, it has to be said there also, that you MUST either disable one
of
the standard PATA (IDE) controllers, or not to attach the SATA drivers if
in
Win98.

the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot of components

After Win98 will work -- install the driver for motherboard from the CD
that
came with it, and the drivers for the other components of this
motherboards
after that (from the same CD).

--
Mikhail Zhilin
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:29:39 +0100, "TonyK" wrote:

After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to
instal
W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my XP PRO
system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I will
probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks).
However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98
(which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD:
"Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some
child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode
drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been
halted to prevent corruption.

After you restart your computer, Windows will use compatibility-mode
drivers
for each child device attached to this multi-finction device. If you want
to
use 32-bit drivers, you may be able to obtain an updated driver for the
device that caused the problem by contacting your hardware manufacturer,
or
you can disable the device.

Press any key to continue"

***********************

Pressing key did nothing: system was hung. Restarted.

Can anyone please explain what the BSOD message means as I Have NEVER come
across anything like this before. What does the reference to "child
devices"
mean?

The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and
Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard
Drives are connected.

Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD
devices. This configuration has been in being for some time.

Needless to say, the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot
of components as the system failed to recognise the 2 x DVD/CDs, and thus
I
couldn't get to the routines during the latter part of the W98 instal.

Can anyone help as I am going mad.

Thanks

"" wrote:
After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I
decided to instal
W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to
my XP PRO
system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise
NTFS). (I will
probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks).
However among the many problems I encountered while trying to
instal W98
(which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the
undernoted BSOD:
"Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller)
has some
child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using
compatibility-mode
drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer
has been
halted to prevent corruption.

After you restart your computer, Windows will use
compatibility-mode drivers
for each child device attached to this multi-finction device.
If you want to
use 32-bit drivers, you may be able to obtain an updated
driver for the
device that caused the problem by contacting your hardware
manufacturer, or
you can disable the device.

Press any key to continue"

***********************

Pressing key did nothing: system was hung. Restarted.

Can anyone please explain what the BSOD message means as I
Have NEVER come
across anything like this before. What does the reference to
"child devices"
mean?

The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting
Master and
Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to
which 3 Hard
Drives are connected.

Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used
for 2 DVD/CD
devices. This configuration has been in being for some time.

Needless to say, the Partial W98 system I have configured is
missing a lot
of components as the system failed to recognise the 2 x
DVD/CDs, and thus I
couldn't get to the routines during the latter part of the W98
instal.

Can anyone help as I am going mad.

Thanks

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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:08:40 +0100, "TonyK" wrote:

Thanks.
You've answered it for me. I won't change anything permanently as the move
to W98 was to access XP PRO which is acting up. Indeed (and I know it's not
the right NG) I have set XP PRO to repair itself to day and it is nearly
finished after about 7 hours. What can that mean?
Thanks again

I saw this picture twice -- when the WinXP repair delayed at 39..34 minutes for hours.
As it turned in the both cases, by some reason (most likely because the drive
configuration was not the same already, as while the initial installation) Setup decided
to change the letter of the boot drive (the drive with %windir%).

So as I could understand, all this superfluous time Setup restructured the Registry
because of that -- but the worst was: many of the existent programs couldn't work after
the letter had been changed. So I had to restore this letter manually, as described in
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q223188
and set the proper expected letter of "PagingFiles" in

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management

and in all ControlSetXXX (where XXX=001, 002 etc) of

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSetXXX\Control\Se ssion Manager\Memory Management

and reboot from the installation CD immediately after that, and re-run "Restore the
damaged system" again -- but now it used the correct letter I set manually. What is
interesting, this restoration took noticeably less time than the repair with the wrong
letter.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

"Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message
.. .
Win98 can't work with more than one primary and one secondary standard IDE
controllers. But SATA controller works as the second primary and second
secondary standard IDE controllers.

As I see,
Primary IDE is not used
-- so disable it in BIOS. ....

======

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:29:39 +0100, "TonyK" wrote:

After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to
instal
W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my XP PRO
system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I will
probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks).
However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98
(which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD:
"Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some
child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode
drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been
halted to prevent corruption.
...
The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and
Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard
Drives are connected.

Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD
devices. This configuration has been in being for some time.
....

"TonyK" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to
instal W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my
XP PRO system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I
will probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks).
However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98
(which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD:
"Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some
child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode
drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been
halted to prevent corruption.

After you restart your computer, Windows will use compatibility-mode
drivers for each child device attached to this multi-finction device. If
you want to use 32-bit drivers, you may be able to obtain an updated
driver for the device that caused the problem by contacting your hardware
manufacturer, or you can disable the device.

Press any key to continue"

***********************

Pressing key did nothing: system was hung. Restarted.

Can anyone please explain what the BSOD message means as I Have NEVER come
across anything like this before. What does the reference to "child
devices" mean?

The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and
Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard
Drives are connected.

Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD
devices. This configuration has been in being for some time.

Needless to say, the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot
of components as the system failed to recognise the 2 x DVD/CDs, and thus
I couldn't get to the routines during the latter part of the W98 instal.

Can anyone help as I am going mad.

Thanks

If you need to recover data from an NTFS partition you can download Ultimate
Boot CD for Windows, burn the image to a CD, and boot from it. Very
effective.

Fred

MS-DOS Compatibility Mode Problems with PCI IDE Controllers
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=151911
might give you some help.
ern


"milsabords" wrote in message
...

"TonyK" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
After horrendous problems with BSODs and other problems I decided to
instal W98 Second Edition on a fresh partition so that I could get to my
XP PRO system to copy it (doesn't work as W98 doesn't recognise NTFS). (I
will probably get round this with Partition Magic recovery disks).
However among the many problems I encountered while trying to instal W98
(which has run OK in the past on this computer) was the undernoted BSOD:
"Your multi-funttion device (Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller) has some
child devices using 32-bit drivers and others using compatibility-mode
drivers. This configuation is not supported, so your computer has been
halted to prevent corruption.

After you restart your computer, Windows will use compatibility-mode
drivers for each child device attached to this multi-finction device. If
you want to use 32-bit drivers, you may be able to obtain an updated
driver for the device that caused the problem by contacting your hardware
manufacturer, or you can disable the device.

Press any key to continue"

***********************

Pressing key did nothing: system was hung. Restarted.

Can anyone please explain what the BSOD message means as I Have NEVER come
across anything like this before. What does the reference to "child
devices" mean?

The 2 x IDEs referred to are standard IDEs, each supporting Master and
Slave. In addition to this the MB has 4 x SATA cannections to which 3 Hard
Drives are connected.

Primary IDE is not used. Secondary Master and Slave are used for 2 DVD/CD
devices. This configuration has been in being for some time.

Needless to say, the Partial W98 system I have configured is missing a lot
of components as the system failed to recognise the 2 x DVD/CDs, and thus
I couldn't get to the routines during the latter part of the W98 instal.

Can anyone help as I am going mad.

Thanks

If you need to recover data from an NTFS partition you can download Ultimate
Boot CD for Windows, burn the image to a CD, and boot from it. Very
effective.

Fred