F*** Off All Microsoft Users

On 2004-06-27, David Candy wrote:

When you scum reply remove our groups from the To line and we won't know
and you can continue your fights without involving us.
[...]
(2) I, and several others, have repeatedly tried to set Followup-To: on
messages such that discussion can be directed out of your groups.
This has been ignored by respondents.

But YOU reply only to acorn. I certainly don't, and I would guess most
others don't either, subscribe to your groups. I can't post to acorn.

But I thought you didn't want to prolong this argument, and didn't want it
on your groups? So why is the fact that you don't read or post to csa.*
a problem?

But if you remove our groups we won't see your internal fight.

Feel free to set Followup-To:!

Cheers,

N.

--
Helen: I... I'm not... I'm not very good at... at... you know...
James: Constructing sentences?
-- Peter Howitt, "Sliding Doors"

On 2004-06-27, kurttrail wrote:
[Should you mention it explicitly when you snip?]
in which case, all you're really doing is showing how much of a
pratt you are, by selectively snipping without flagging it.

I agree. But that isn't what I've been doing in this thread, it isn't
what most posters who quote interleaved do, and it is something I've
already categorically stated to be considered extremely bad manners.

And to me, it is not only "considered extremely bad manners" to snip up
other peoples words without acknowledging it, but it is considered a
disingenuous act too.

Fair enough: that will be the different posting styles of the groups raising
their heads again.

Where it is customary for the whole post to be quoted, I can see how it
would come to be considered disingenuous for parts to be snipped. Where
it is customary for all but the most relevant sections to be removed,
though, I hope you can appreciate that it becomes unnecessary more often
that not to explicitly flag every removal.

It's just different styles of posting, that's all.

Cheers,

N.

--
Al Go If we don't go back there and make that event happen, the entire
universe will be destroyed. And as an enivronmentalist, I'm against that.
-- Matt Groening, "Futurama"

On 2004-06-27, David Candy wrote:

So when is Fire trUCKER Drucker going to apologise for his spam. He is
your leader according to an earlier post.

He is certainly /not/ my (our) leader. He /has/ contributed a lot of
valuable time, advice and software to the Acorn community but has a
lamentable lack of skill in communicating with people who don't agree
with his world-view, as far as I can see.

I wish he wouldn't mail everyone who does something he doesn't like in
the Acorn groups: a quick, public message on the group to the effect
that custom and convention in csa.* is to interleave quoting would be
much more appropriate in my opinion.

Cheers,

N.

--
Get thee behind me Satan! Get thee in front of me God! Let's have a threesome.
-- The League Against Tedium

Nick Boalch wrote:

On 2004-06-27, David Candy wrote:

When you scum reply remove our groups from the To line and we won't
know and you can continue your fights without involving us.

(1) The news article format has no such thing as a 'To line', the
header is labelled 'Newsgroups:'.

OK.


(2) I, and several others, have repeatedly tried to set Followup-To:
on messages such that discussion can be directed out of your
groups. This has been ignored by respondents.

Dickhead, you are still posting here in our groups! You would not have to
play silly "Followup-To:" games, if you just remove our groups from your
"Newsgroups:" line!

So go away, or keep getting reamed a new a**hole. The choice is ya'll's to
make, but the longer ya'll drag this out, the more people will see ya'll's
precious OS in the light ya'll's reflection.

Ya'll are just a bunch of Masochistic Trolls! And I'm gonna keep feeding
ya'll until ya'll burst!

"Cause and Effect"

Ya'll cause, and I'll effect!

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We don't want your quibbling.

UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!

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Nick Boalch wrote:

On 2004-06-27, kurttrail
wrote:

And remember, WE DID NOT COME TO YOU! People from your group
started this whole mess, and continue to keep it going!

Yes, I very much regret that it was an idiot from the Acorn
community who started this whole thing. I hope you've seen that
this was a single idiot, acting on his own, and that he's been
roundly condemned by other csa.* posters.

And also regret your group dissing ours for not complying with your
rules, when we didn't ask for all this in the first place.

I've already dealt with that in a separate message. It's a shame that
it happened, yes. It's a shame the whole incident happened.

It was NOT just one person. It was a group effort, and the best you
all can hope for out of this, which we didn't start, is that we
learn to forgive and forget what your group did here.

There is a difference between some individuals and 'our group'.

No more Bullsh*t.

UNCONDITIONAL SURENDER!

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Nick Boalch wrote:

On 2004-06-27, kurttrail
wrote:

[Snipping inside sentences alters their meanings; this is frowned on.]
So does snipping full sentences out of the full context in which
they were written.

I don't agree. How have I altered the meaning of your sentence here by
snipping the preceding debate?

[Snipping, without necessarily marking it.]
This approach to quoting does, I'll admit, occasionally lead to some
people altering quotes, or simply quoting very selectively, in order
to give them an advantage in discussion. But such tactics are easily
spotted.

Yeah? I didn't see one of you guys say anything when Nunya did much
the same thing to my words.

To be honest, I haven't been reading the exchanges between Nunya and
yourself. I doubt anyone has, except Nunya and yourself.

Oh well. Go and snip without acknowledging it.

As it's the convention in all the groups I post to, I shall!

Cheers,

N.

In article , Mike
wrote:
Sorry, Alan, but I fail to see why it is so important to bottom post.. I
do not accept the argument that USENET has always been that way anymore
than I call the operator every time that I need to call somebody just
because that is the way that it was always done in the past..

I don't think the question is really 'top or bottom'. It is more about
clarity. So interleaving answers amongst points in the original message
seems to be the best way all round - except for very short messages where
it doesn't really matter.

The trouble seems to be that OE doesn't deal with this very well, putting
attributions in the body of the message rather than collecting them at the
top. At least that is what it seems to do from here.

The other point is snipping unneccessary text to improve readability - too
many people seem to just post back everything having stuck their one line
response at the top - so the recipient has to search through the whole
thing trying to find the part the sender is referring to.

Rather like quoting a piece from an author in a review - you don't put in
the whole book to make the point.

Cheers

Alan

[Snip]

--
Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.

MS is too dumb to filter arse. Use that instead.

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On 2004-06-27, David Candy wrote:

When you scum reply remove our groups from the To line and we won't
know and you can continue your fights without involving us.

(1) The news article format has no such thing as a 'To line', the
header is labelled 'Newsgroups:'.
=20
OK.
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(2) I, and several others, have repeatedly tried to set Followup-To:
on messages such that discussion can be directed out of your
groups. This has been ignored by respondents.
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Dickhead, you are still posting here in our groups! You would not =
have to
play silly "Followup-To:" games, if you just remove our groups from =
your
"Newsgroups:" line!
=20
So go away, or keep getting reamed a new a**hole. The choice is =
ya'll's to
make, but the longer ya'll drag this out, the more people will see =
ya'll's
precious OS in the light ya'll's reflection.
=20
Ya'll are just a bunch of Masochistic Trolls! And I'm gonna keep =
feeding
ya'll until ya'll burst!
=20
"Cause and Effect"
=20
Ya'll cause, and I'll effect!
=20
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Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
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Because I won't see my message.

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On 2004-06-27, David Candy wrote:
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When you scum reply remove our groups from the To line and we =
won't know
and you can continue your fights without involving us.
[...]
(2) I, and several others, have repeatedly tried to set =
Followup-To: on
messages such that discussion can be directed out of your =
groups.
This has been ignored by respondents.

But YOU reply only to acorn. I certainly don't, and I would guess =
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others don't either, subscribe to your groups. I can't post to =
acorn.=20
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But I thought you didn't want to prolong this argument, and didn't =
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on your groups? So why is the fact that you don't read or post to =
csa.*=20
a problem?
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But if you remove our groups we won't see your internal fight.
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Feel free to set Followup-To:!
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Cheers,
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N.
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Helen: I... I'm not... I'm not very good at... at... you know...
James: Constructing sentences?
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In article ,
kurttrail wrote:

Busy twiddling with small data extract and forgot this one...
(still better late than never)

Since what passes for wit
amongst them is sadly below the level of most learning difficulties
10 year olds people have decided that the features of NewsHound being
employed to their best are a good idea.

Would you like to try that one again, this time in English, and not in
Blathering Idiot?!

In simple words that you might understand -- *plonk*